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Re: To stitch regulator

Shirley Allen
 

THANK YOU


On 8/19/2020 2:51 PM, Patricia Ward wrote:
Shirley,  really I don't think the stitch regulator that I have for my older Bernina 730E was even worth the money.   I have found my FMQ on my 15000 to be so easy and enjoyable.  I set my speed bar at a certain speed and then use my foot pedal to do the quilting; the speed will not go any faster than the bar allows it even if I put the pedal to the metal so to speak.  
 
And as an aside; on the sewing lists where people sell things, I see the Bernina Stitch Regulators on there for sale quite frequently. 
 
Just my opinion... 
 
Pat 

On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 12:16 PM Shirley Allen <sowhat1935@...> wrote:
Jim,  Does Janome (or Elna) make a stitch regulator similar to the one Bernia has ?  If not do you think they might someday?  Thanks.  curious minds need to know.  Shirley from NJ

 


Re: computerized quilting on the 12000?

Mary Almond
 

I started out with a grace frame and used a Janome 1600 machine with it. I did buy a stitch regulator to keep the stitches more even.  I quilt many many quilts on it!  It definitely paid for itself! I now have a tin Lizzy that I love but of course is a bit more money!

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On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 8:46 AM favymtz <favymtz@...> wrote:
No, it won't work exactly like a long arm quilter but it's similar. You put the machine on a platform and guide it with the arms attached to the platform.
The Grace Frames have nothing to do with the Acufil embroidery!
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Favymtz


Re: To stitch regulator

Patricia Ward
 

Shirley,  really I don't think the stitch regulator that I have for my older Bernina 730E was even worth the money.   I have found my FMQ on my 15000 to be so easy and enjoyable.  I set my speed bar at a certain speed and then use my foot pedal to do the quilting; the speed will not go any faster than the bar allows it even if I put the pedal to the metal so to speak.  

And as an aside; on the sewing lists where people sell things, I see the Bernina Stitch Regulators on there for sale quite frequently. 

Just my opinion... 

Pat 

On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 12:16 PM Shirley Allen <sowhat1935@...> wrote:
Jim,  Does Janome (or Elna) make a stitch regulator similar to the one Bernia has ?  If not do you think they might someday?  Thanks.  curious minds need to know.  Shirley from NJ


Re: To stitch regulator

Shirley Allen
 

On 8/19/2020 12:20 PM, Jim Stutsman via groups.io wrote:
Keep in mind that I've been out of the dealership for 9 years now, but I don't think Janome has ever made a stitch regulator. If they have not, it could be due to patents. That's why they didn't have integrated dual feed until the Pfaff patent expired. I doubt that any stitch regulator can match what a seasoned free motion quilter can do manually, and Acufil allows for pretty much perfect stitching every time.

Thank you Jim for your reply & I will try to get my free motion sewing up to snuff. LOL


Re: To stitch regulator

Nyssa Lanzafame
 

i second Jim...i  bought a bernina for the BSR....I would not even try Free motion Quiilting until i had it....then after getting and thinking, huh, not quite the magic i expected, i tried FMQ on the 15000 and was delighted! it was easier, and came out just as well!!!  if you think that the BSR actually has 100% perfect stitch length all the time, it does not.    so i was empowered  :)
give it a try if you have not already.


On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 12:20 PM Jim Stutsman via groups.io <onlinesewing=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Keep in mind that I've been out of the dealership for 9 years now, but I don't think Janome has ever made a stitch regulator. If they have not, it could be due to patents. That's why they didn't have integrated dual feed until the Pfaff patent expired. I doubt that any stitch regulator can match what a seasoned free motion quilter can do manually, and Acufil allows for pretty much perfect stitching every time.


Re: To stitch regulator

Jim Stutsman
 

Keep in mind that I've been out of the dealership for 9 years now, but I don't think Janome has ever made a stitch regulator. If they have not, it could be due to patents. That's why they didn't have integrated dual feed until the Pfaff patent expired. I doubt that any stitch regulator can match what a seasoned free motion quilter can do manually, and Acufil allows for pretty much perfect stitching every time.


Re: To stitch regulator

Shirley Allen
 

Jim,  Does Janome (or Elna) make a stitch regulator similar to the one Bernia has ?  If not do you think they might someday?  Thanks.  curious minds need to know.  Shirley from NJ


Re: quilting on the 12000

Cheryl Paul
 

Sherryl, I used the designs that are in the bunch that come on your sewing machine and also in Horizon Link Suite. There are quite a number of them - I saw no need to purchase others, however, I have done that too. I also digitized a “space ship” to re-quilt a purchased Stars Wars quilt where the fluffy batting fell apart and the horrible backing disintegrated, I put new 80/20 in and a new backing and quilted it with the AQS system. I only thought of that quilt when I was reading the replies this morning, so I guess I have accomplished more than I credit myself doing. I have only taken up quilting because my sewing friends all “quilt”, I really prefer garment sewing, but haven’t done a lot of that since I’ve gained weighed in my time where “numbers” don’t matter.

Give your machine a good workout and practice doing some of this quilting stuff on placemats, table runners and the like. The tendency is to just jump in without practice or learning and expect GOOD results the first time. We have to start with “baby steps”.

YouTube has lots of information - Janome Canada and Janome Headquartes (also Canada) have been really doing a great job of passing information on Instagram and then putting to YouTube during the pandemic - check it out. Also if you haven’t got Jim and Diane’s iPad, iPhone APPS, "My 12000" or "My 15000” or “Footbook” they are worth the purchase, Diane goes through all the items that come with these machines and the Footbook all the feet, with videos to help in the process of learning. I use Diane’s videos all the time to refresh my memory for the things ie: The Binder Attachment, so I use it correctly.

Cheryl - Saskatoon


Re: quilting on the 12000

favymtz
 

Without regurgitating the whole magnetic hoop topic!!!! The whole reason that the Stutsmans and myself have come up with our own versions of magnetic hoops is because the Acufil hoop (ASQ22) isn't strong enough to hold thick quilts for embroidery.
It's also my experience and opinion, that it's also absolutely asking too much of the hoop and it's magnets to expect it to hold a quilt with 2 layers of batting.

If a person uses digitizing skills and software and gets really good at it, the Acufil system can absolutely replace a long arm machine. BUT, the big BUT is, it takes skills!
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Favymtz


Re: computerized quilting on the 12000?

favymtz
 

No, it won't work exactly like a long arm quilter but it's similar. You put the machine on a platform and guide it with the arms attached to the platform.
The Grace Frames have nothing to do with the Acufil embroidery!
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Favymtz


Re: computerized quilting on the 12000?

favymtz
 

The Grace Frames are very nice, the platform that the machine sits on moves very smoothly and easily. Yes, you would have to make sure that the platform will fit your machine.
The limitations are this:
It doesn't have a stitch regulator as such, but as I recall, a stitch regulator can be purchased separately that gives that capability.
The stitching area is limited by the size of the harp of the sewing machine being used. The bigger the machine the bigger sewing area.
My sister owns one in New Mexico and is willing to sell it!
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Favymtz


Re: Janome 550e

Pixey
 

Hi Beth,
It does not look like changing the foot height is an option on this series of machines.  I have the 500e but when I looked at the 550e, I did not recall seeing the operating interface being any different.  I actually think it is a bigger issue on the combination sewing and embroidery machines.

That said, I have done some fairly thick in the hoop projects with my 500e and previously on my embroidery only 350e (even some using the foam filler layer) and have not had any problem with the foot height catching.  Just be sure to trim your loose ends and any jump stitches (if you are not using the cutting feature) so there isn’t really anything to catch on.  You might also tape down edges or trims to provide a smoother transition and reduce the risk of the foot get caught.  I learned this technique from Kimberbell designs.  They are big about that, using tape to keep the foot from grabbing on height changes as it travels on their In the Hoop projects.

Pixey


On Aug 18, 2020, at 11:17 AM, bhoryn via groups.io <bhoryn@...> wrote:

I am going to be doing a thick in the hoop project and it is recommended that the last part be sewn out at the lowest speed (no problem) and also with the foot raised.    Can this be done on my machine?     Can find anything in the instruction book.    Thanks.  Beth in Ontario.  


Re: Janome 550e

georgebarbara1218@att.net
 

If you mean that you need to adjust the height of the presser foot you should be able to go into setting and page down to that adjustment. Frequently need to do this if going over very thick things



On Aug 18, 2020, at 7:58 PM, SewingRose <newbuild2012@...> wrote:

Trying to think back to my first embroidery machine (currently own a 500E) and remember some discussion about this some years ago, but have never tried it personally as I haven't had the need.  As you realise once the foot is raised then the tension discs are opened, it was decided to slide a piece of card to close the tension discs, you would need to experiment with card thickness until you get it just right. Thinking about it now you would need to leave space for the thread to pass through that area without being hindered.  

Maybe someone else who was around back then remembers this discussion and might have tried it, but I would be inclined to give it a try as a piece of card won't damage the machine, although you will probably need to remove the left end cover....mine stays off the machine all the time anyway, it's easier to check for wayward pieces of thread/lint/etc.  

Please report back as I'd be interested to hear what you try and how it works.  ;-)

 


Re: computerized quilting on the 12000?

Sherryl Doran
 

Thanks for the input.


Re: computerized quilting on the 12000?

Cat - N
 

According to the advertising, you 'can' put a machine you already own (or, say, a less expensive/straight stitch, etc., machine purchased just for that purpose) on the Grace Q-Zone Hoop Quilting Frame.  But, if you use your 12000, you would not use Acufil or the Janome hoop robotics, since the 12000 will not be stitching/quilting in it's embroidery hoop while it is on the Grace "hoop" frame. 

In fact, you would most likely NOT have the embroidery unit installed on the 12000 while it is on the Grace carriage.  Although I have not seen the width of the carriage published, the 'table' the machine sits on looks fairly narrow and I tend to doubt it would fit, and if too narrow, 'might' even result in damage.

I am not certain if a robot exists (or will exist) that works on that frame, but I have not seen it mentioned in any Grace advertising so far.  Even if a robot does exist to move the carriage automatically, the 12000 has no stitch regulation so you might not be happy with the stitching.  We have a long arm quilter on a 12' frame with a robot installed, but the long arm quilter has a stitch regulator to keep the stitches even while the robot moves the carriage with the quilter on it.

- Cat


-----Original Message-----
From: Sherryl Doran via groups.io <crafttwoman@...>
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io
Sent: Tue, Aug 18, 2020 2:42 pm
Subject: [onlinesewing-janome] computerized quilting on the 12000?

My dear hubby has hinted that if I want to upgrade to a system that will let me do computerized quilting, as long as it doesn't take all our retirement funds, he would be in favor of it. I keep seeing ads for The Grace Company about a small frame that is 4 1/2 feet wide that might work in the limited space I have. It looks like you can put a machine you already own on this frame. One of the three machines I own is a Janome 12000. I have the Horizonlink and Accu-fil software that came with my used machine. Is it possible to put this machine on the frame and have it work like a long-arm quilter? I am thinking not, since any of the software you open up assumes a hoop is being used. Just wishin' and hopin'.....


Re: Janome 550e

SewingRose
 

Trying to think back to my first embroidery machine (currently own a 500E) and remember some discussion about this some years ago, but have never tried it personally as I haven't had the need.  As you realise once the foot is raised then the tension discs are opened, it was decided to slide a piece of card to close the tension discs, you would need to experiment with card thickness until you get it just right. Thinking about it now you would need to leave space for the thread to pass through that area without being hindered.  

Maybe someone else who was around back then remembers this discussion and might have tried it, but I would be inclined to give it a try as a piece of card won't damage the machine, although you will probably need to remove the left end cover....mine stays off the machine all the time anyway, it's easier to check for wayward pieces of thread/lint/etc.  

Please report back as I'd be interested to hear what you try and how it works.  ;-)

 


Re: Janome 550e

Ginger Hart
 

I believe you can. I use a 500 at class so I don't have it here to look at, but I think you go to settings. At the top of the screen it shows 2 icons of sewing machines. Tap the second one and I think you might scroll at the bottom to the second screen.  Try that. 
Ginger


Re: Janome 550e

Cat - N
 

The 550e is an embroidery-only machine, so stitching in the hoop...yes but regular sewing is no.

- Cat


-----Original Message-----
From: bhoryn via groups.io <bhoryn@...>
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io
Sent: Tue, Aug 18, 2020 12:16 pm
Subject: [onlinesewing-janome] Janome 550e

I am going to be doing a thick in the hoop project and it is recommended that the last part be sewn out at the lowest speed (no problem) and also with the foot raised.    Can this be done on my machine?     Can find anything in the instruction book.    Thanks.  Beth in Ontario.  


Re: quilting on the 12000

Claire Schutz
 

Some time ago there was a discussion about using fishing weights to hold down the hoop. Check old messages, Claire S

On 8/17/2020 4:22 PM, Sherryl Doran via groups.io wrote:
Thanks for the video referral. I believe I have seen this or one like it before. This must be for very thin batting, because most of my quilts I make with two layers of batting and I am lucky if I can get one of those magnets to hold, let alone four or eight. And if I need to have the hoop plastic right where a seam happens to be I might as well forget it. I was just hoping there was some special trick or special equipment I needed to make it work.


computerized quilting on the 12000?

Sherryl Doran
 

My dear hubby has hinted that if I want to upgrade to a system that will let me do computerized quilting, as long as it doesn't take all our retirement funds, he would be in favor of it. I keep seeing ads for The Grace Company about a small frame that is 4 1/2 feet wide that might work in the limited space I have. It looks like you can put a machine you already own on this frame. One of the three machines I own is a Janome 12000. I have the Horizonlink and Accu-fil software that came with my used machine. Is it possible to put this machine on the frame and have it work like a long-arm quilter? I am thinking not, since any of the software you open up assumes a hoop is being used. Just wishin' and hopin'.....

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