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Re: MBX v5

Jim Stutsman
 

Thank you Maggie for clarifying. Regarding what you may read on Facebook with regard to MBX, unless it is on the official Janome FB page, don't put too much faith into it. There are factors that customers do not know that cause this sort of thing to come up:
  • Given the prices of the high end machines, most customers assume that all dealers are wealthy beyond belief. There ARE a very small number of Janome dealers who are quite wealthy as a result of being in business for many years. However there are a LARGE number of dealers who are just making it, or maybe not quite making it. This is a hard business!
  • Put yourself in the position of dealer X. Business has been "OK", but not great. Getting the rent and payroll together each month is still a challenge. Janome has just come out with a new digitizer. You've had to take time off to get trained and you've bought a quantity of them to get the lowest possible price. The suggested price gives you room to make a little extra profit. Customers are asking "Is this now Janome's only digitizing package? Are they dropping MBX?" If the stack of past due bills is high enough, the dealer may well say "Yes" to those questions. Every dealership has one or two customers who always want to be the first to know anything new, and they will immediately start spreading this. No malice is intended, but the bad information can cause a lot of confusion and anxiety.
  • For the record, we never told our customers anything that we didn't get directly from Janome and know to be true. And there were times when we had to use those "convenience checks" that came with the credit card bill in order to put money into the business to keep the doors open. We did not retire wealthy, but we have no regrets.
With regard to Janome MBX, Maggie knows more about it than just about anyone else in the world. If she had a pound for every hour she's logged with Digitizer she'd be living in a mansion rivaling Kensington Palace! We are very fortunate to have her as a member of this group.


Re: Make and Ironing Board

Helen Creamore <helencreamore@...>
 

The Labours of Love sewing site uses to sell the June Tailor ironing board cover. You could check there.


On Mar 14, 2018, at 6:56 PM, Carole O'Mara <caroleinco@...> wrote:

My husband was about to discard a large metal work bench with a shelf underneath and one drawer.  It was in great condition and now I use it for a large ironing table.  A number of years ago I bought a pressing mat made by June Tailor with marked grids at 20” x 60”, different angles etc.  I decided one day to wash it—big mistake.  The gridded top shrank and the heat resistant bottom didn’t.  I’ve tried to get another one to no avail even calling June Tailor company and that size has been discontinued.  Now I am trying to figure out what I can cover this large table with (31” x  63”) so I can have a large ironing surface.  Any suggestions???? 

 Thanks,

Carole – Colorado Springs






Re: Make and Ironing Board

cas <cassweet@...>
 

You could use batting or flannel and then a couple of layers of sheets so it would be wide enough fabric without seams.

Cas

 

From: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io [mailto:onlinesewing-janome@groups.io] On Behalf Of Carole O'Mara
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 6:57 PM
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] Make and Ironing Board

 

My husband was about to discard a large metal work bench with a shelf underneath and one drawer.  It was in great condition and now I use it for a large ironing table.  A number of years ago I bought a pressing mat made by June Tailor with marked grids at 20” x 60”, different angles etc.  I decided one day to wash it—big mistake.  The gridded top shrank and the heat resistant bottom didn’t.  I’ve tried to get another one to no avail even calling June Tailor company and that size has been discontinued.  Now I am trying to figure out what I can cover this large table with (31” x  63”) so I can have a large ironing surface.  Any suggestions???? 

 Thanks,

Carole – Colorado Springs





 


Re: Make and Ironing Board

cas <cassweet@...>
 

You’re welcome and you got that right!  I can barely turn around in here, and I’m always knocking something over.  Or getting bruised.  Ha!  Who knew.  If I knew this was going to be my full time passion I would have bought a house with a large room for my studio.  One with two living rooms would be ideal…

Cas

 

From: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io [mailto:onlinesewing-janome@groups.io] On Behalf Of Narda Poulin via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:11 PM
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] Make and Ironing Board

 

Thanks for the photo. That is a great idea, especially the tip about drilling holes ( I guess thar’s why an ironing boards have holes in them). Right now I am still just using a reg ironing board and have a large table but it has my cutting mat on it (with rolling carts under it as you have). Somehow we never seem to have enough room ....or material lol


On Mar 14, 2018, at 8:50 AM, cas <cassweet@...> wrote:

I recycled a desk.  It has the added benefit of storage underneath.  It had four drawers and I added a rolling cart with 7 drawers to the other side.  The whole works is on gliders since I have hardwood floors.  It takes up some room in here, but I needed a large ironing board and storage.  If you decide to do a project like this I suggest drilling holes in the desktop before you cover it so the batting and cloth can get air to dry totally.  I’ll see if I can upload a pic so you can see it.  The desktop is 22”x48” and has the added benefit of a small rotary cutting mat fitting perfectly on one end.

 

I don’t see how to add photos to group but it looks like if I include them in the email they automatically go there?
Cas

 

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Re: MBX v5

maggie cooper
 

Jim forgive me sweetheart but I'm going to have a right royal rant here, as I'm sick to death of Janome America Inc and their pathetic attempts to scare dealers and end users about MBX. Here goes,I was contacted last year by someone that had attended a Janome Roadshow, only dealers or their representatives could attend, no vendors were allowed in to the actual meetings, a close out list was presented and MBX was included on it, dealers were told Janome had decided the Wilcom MBX was too expensive (no one reminded JAI that it decides the price not Wilcom) but they hadn't informed Wilcom, so I did. I was furious, someone in JAI had decided to make a name for himself and decided Janome end users could go jump in a lake, besides as loyal little Janome customers they should accept what they were offered and he'd decided a crap software was more than ample. An agreement between JAI and Wilcom had been reached after V5 was launched, stating ASS or its derivatives would not be marketed outside of North America, then I was told by someone who was at a Janome Artistic Digitiser training session, they'd met the Janome UK tech support chap who'd been flown over for AD training. Finally in October JAI agreed that MBX would not only be supported but Dealers could order any new versions that Tokyo may already have requested be developed. They also agreed to set the  record straight with the dealers and end users. 

JAI is in its Terrible Teens and like any terrible teen resents its parent directing its choices and decisions, but another American subsidiary, Bernina USA decided to ignore its parent company, so its parent wrested back control, Bernina USA still exists but without the autonomy it it once enjoyed. I do know there are no plans by Wilcom to ditch MBX as Tokyo has asked Wilcom to continue development, as Tokyo considers MBX to be its flagship software. If JAI honours its agreement to continue fulfilling dealers orders if and when the next version of MBX launches, you will be able to order it via your dealer. Lets hope Tokyo Daddy can keep its terrible teen in line.
Maggie Cooper


Re: MBX v5

Ceil J
 

On an MBX facebook site which I recently joined so I have no knowledge of the members and what they really know or do not know, a few of them are saying that their dealers have told them that Janome is dropping the MBX line.  I don't know if that's what their dealers are assuming but some claim that's what the dealers say Janome has told them.  I'm currently using a free month's Hatch program and was hoping to go with MBX v5 at some point but maybe digitizing software will be regulated to my end of the year list by which time the dust may have settled. I'm not jumping into anything at this point especially as there's talk of the Janome Artistic Digitizer crashing all the time on one of the sites too. I haven't seen any reports of anyone successfully using it yet.


Re: MBX v5

Jim Stutsman
 

Janome is generally not forthcoming, especially to me! So the best I can do is read the tea leaves. Clearly Wilcom is preparing for the day Janome stops using them, with the release of their Hatch product. It's pretty much a modular version of MBX V5, with a few feature differences. Janome won't drop MBX V5 until they have cleared it from the warehouse. After that it will depend on how well Artistic Digitizer sells. If Janome were to drop MBX V5 I would expect that Wilcom would swoop in with an upgraded Hatch and provide an easy migration path for existing MBX V5 users. Keep in mind that all this is pure SPECULATION. I have no inside track, no crystal ball, only my gut. And even that is bigger than it should be, though it's getting smaller every day!


MBX v5

saba_cat2
 

Jim,
Any indication what Janome plans since the release of Artistic Digitizer for those who who own MBX v5? Leaving us high and dry? Very disappointed that they have not been forthcoming about this.

Deb


Re: Tension

Virginia
 

You should not be having any issues with newQuiltmaker if the upgrade was done correctly.  I use the red dot for regular sewing and the yellow dot for all embroidery.  That is exactly what I used for my 12,000 as well.  

My tensions are set exactly as they were set at the factory and not been touched.  I have owned the 7700 the 11,000 the 300E the 12,000 the 7700QCP and the 15,000 Quiltmaker and never have I ever touched the tensions.  I think you might consider a trip to the dealer if you are concerned.  

Virginia


-----Original Message-----
From: jan shaw <janrshaw@...>
To: onlinesewing-janome <onlinesewing-janome@groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Mar 14, 2018 5:59 pm
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] Tension

Hi;
I have the MC15000 upgraded to Quiltmaker. While using the yellow dot bobbin case and straight stitch plate for embroidery if I use a pre-wound bobbin of 80 weight and a 40 weight rayon on the top, I have the same issue as the original poster; no bobbin thread showing on the back, even if the embroidery tension is set to 10 (or all the way to the right). Or if I tighten the screw on the bobbin case 1/4 to 1/2 turn, this does not make any bobbin thread showing on the back of the embroidery.

If I use a 60 weight bobbin thread, pre-wound or wound on the machine I can see "some" bobbin thread on the back when using  40 weight thread on the top.

If I use the red dot bobbin case and 40 weight thread in the bobbin and 40 weight on top when looking at the back of the embroidery I have the classic 1/3rd top thread 1/3 bobbin thread 1/3 top thread showing.

Question:  Is this the software "glitch" referenced above with the 12000, or does the Janome not "play well" with such a difference in bobbin weight to top thread weight? Or does Janome not use the 1/3,1/3,1/3 rule for the back of a piece of embroidery? 

The machine has been serviced twice since I noticed this.
thanks


Re: Make and Ironing Board

Narda Poulin
 

Thanks for the photo. That is a great idea, especially the tip about drilling holes ( I guess thar’s why an ironing boards have holes in them). Right now I am still just using a reg ironing board and have a large table but it has my cutting mat on it (with rolling carts under it as you have). Somehow we never seem to have enough room ....or material lol


On Mar 14, 2018, at 8:50 AM, cas <cassweet@...> wrote:

I recycled a desk.  It has the added benefit of storage underneath.  It had four drawers and I added a rolling cart with 7 drawers to the other side.  The whole works is on gliders since I have hardwood floors.  It takes up some room in here, but I needed a large ironing board and storage.  If you decide to do a project like this I suggest drilling holes in the desktop before you cover it so the batting and cloth can get air to dry totally.  I’ll see if I can upload a pic so you can see it.  The desktop is 22”x48” and has the added benefit of a small rotary cutting mat fitting perfectly on one end.

 

I don’t see how to add photos to group but it looks like if I include them in the email they automatically go there?
Cas

 

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Re: Make and Ironing Board

Moira Rogow
 

That is really ingenious! That is a great idea. I'm way past refinishing or repurposing things anymore, but I'm going to show that to my daughter. Really impressed!
Moira


On Wednesday, March 14, 2018, 4:58:44 PM CDT, cas <cassweet@...> wrote:


I recycled a desk.  It has the added benefit of storage underneath.  It had four drawers and I added a rolling cart with 7 drawers to the other side.  The whole works is on gliders since I have hardwood floors.  It takes up some room in here, but I needed a large ironing board and storage.  If you decide to do a project like this I suggest drilling holes in the desktop before you cover it so the batting and cloth can get air to dry totally.  I’ll see if I can upload a pic so you can see it.  The desktop is 22”x48” and has the added benefit of a small rotary cutting mat fitting perfectly on one end.

 

I don’t see how to add photos to group but it looks like if I include them in the email they automatically go there?
Cas

 

Ironing.jpg


Re: Make and Ironing Board

Carole O'Mara
 

My husband was about to discard a large metal work bench with a shelf underneath and one drawer.  It was in great condition and now I use it for a large ironing table.  A number of years ago I bought a pressing mat made by June Tailor with marked grids at 20” x 60”, different angles etc.  I decided one day to wash it—big mistake.  The gridded top shrank and the heat resistant bottom didn’t.  I’ve tried to get another one to no avail even calling June Tailor company and that size has been discontinued.  Now I am trying to figure out what I can cover this large table with (31” x  63”) so I can have a large ironing surface.  Any suggestions???? 

 Thanks,

Carole – Colorado Springs






Re: Tension

Jim Stutsman
 

This is NOT a glitch, it's how it's supposed to work. The yellow dot case has INCREASED tension for the bobbin, and is only used if you need it, i.e. bobbin is pulling up. By tightening the yellow dot tension you only made it worse. With the bobbins you are using you only need the red dot case. Put the yellow one away for future use if you start getting bobbin pull-up.


Re: Tension

jan shaw
 

Hi;
I have the MC15000 upgraded to Quiltmaker. While using the yellow dot bobbin case and straight stitch plate for embroidery if I use a pre-wound bobbin of 80 weight and a 40 weight rayon on the top, I have the same issue as the original poster; no bobbin thread showing on the back, even if the embroidery tension is set to 10 (or all the way to the right). Or if I tighten the screw on the bobbin case 1/4 to 1/2 turn, this does not make any bobbin thread showing on the back of the embroidery.

If I use a 60 weight bobbin thread, pre-wound or wound on the machine I can see "some" bobbin thread on the back when using  40 weight thread on the top.

If I use the red dot bobbin case and 40 weight thread in the bobbin and 40 weight on top when looking at the back of the embroidery I have the classic 1/3rd top thread 1/3 bobbin thread 1/3 top thread showing.

Question:  Is this the software "glitch" referenced above with the 12000, or does the Janome not "play well" with such a difference in bobbin weight to top thread weight? Or does Janome not use the 1/3,1/3,1/3 rule for the back of a piece of embroidery? 

The machine has been serviced twice since I noticed this.
thanks


Make and Ironing Board

cas <cassweet@...>
 

I recycled a desk.  It has the added benefit of storage underneath.  It had four drawers and I added a rolling cart with 7 drawers to the other side.  The whole works is on gliders since I have hardwood floors.  It takes up some room in here, but I needed a large ironing board and storage.  If you decide to do a project like this I suggest drilling holes in the desktop before you cover it so the batting and cloth can get air to dry totally.  I’ll see if I can upload a pic so you can see it.  The desktop is 22”x48” and has the added benefit of a small rotary cutting mat fitting perfectly on one end.

 

I don’t see how to add photos to group but it looks like if I include them in the email they automatically go there?
Cas

 

Ironing.jpg


Re: Tension

Claire Schutz
 

And you ARE using the LOCK button when threading, Claire s.

On 3/13/2018 7:44 PM, danlin@... wrote:
yes I am changing my bobin cases and have gone to the Embroidery set screen and have set it at the highess setting and still absolutely no tension. What is weird is that there is some on the sewing mode! Thank you for the auick reply. I will try the update.
--
LindaB


Re: Tension

Virginia
 

Sorry. Do not know why the machines were underlined.



Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.

-------- Original message --------
From: "Virginia via Groups.Io" <Fmjfrazier@...>
Date: 3/14/18 9:06 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] Tension

If there are no loops pn the front and the front looks ok that is how it is supposed to be. I have the 15000 and had the 12000 and it was and is the same. If the bobbin thtead was showing on top that would be a problem. Embroidery is different. Not a good idea yo syart changing tensions. Let your dealer check that for you.



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-------- Original message --------
From: danlin@...
Date: 3/13/18 8:47 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] Tension


-- yes I am using a thread stand. When I say the thread is loose I mean that there is absolutely no tension. The underneath of the embroidery has very little bobbin thread. What is so weird is that in sewing mode the tension is fine. 
LindaB


Re: Tension

Laura Galto <lgalto@...>
 

Just wondering if you tried a different thread. I had similar problem during the holidays. I changed to another brand of thread I had on hand. That was it; the spool was fine at first, but in the middle it started acting up.  Turned out it was “weird” in the center - kind of wavy. 

Always nice when it’s easy 😉. 

On Mar 13, 2018, at 7:44 PM, danlin@... wrote:

yes I am changing my bobin cases and have gone to the Embroidery set screen and have set it at the highess setting and still absolutely no tension. What is weird is that there is some on the sewing mode! Thank you for the auick reply. I will try the update.
--
LindaB


Re: Tension

Virginia
 

If there are no loops pn the front and the front looks ok that is how it is supposed to be. I have the 15000 and had the 12000 and it was and is the same. If the bobbin thtead was showing on top that would be a problem. Embroidery is different. Not a good idea yo syart changing tensions. Let your dealer check that for you.



Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.

-------- Original message --------
From: danlin@...
Date: 3/13/18 8:47 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] Tension


-- yes I am using a thread stand. When I say the thread is loose I mean that there is absolutely no tension. The underneath of the embroidery has very little bobbin thread. What is so weird is that in sewing mode the tension is fine. 
LindaB


Re: Tension

LindaB 1
 

yes I am changing my bobin cases and have gone to the Embroidery set screen and have set it at the highess setting and still absolutely no tension. What is weird is that there is some on the sewing mode! Thank you for the auick reply. I will try the update.
--
LindaB

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