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Re: Bonus with Purchase of 12000

mcmaster_heather
 

KRIS
I too live near Gympie. Will also have to contact my "dealer" who I would assume is same as yours . I have been away so that is ok. Did you get the two extra embroidery discs? I did so am only waiting for the trolley case too.

Heather
Cooloola Cove

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "kkrissyb" <krissy.b@...> wrote:

I will have to contact my dealer and see if he has mine. Problem is that he has a store in Gympie and at present the road between where I live and my dealer is washed out due to flooding so will have to wait longer

Kris in Aus

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Liz" <dse7sew@> wrote:

Yes I live in Queensland Australia and got my trolly case last week. It is huge and takes up a lot of room. Saying that it is easy to move around. I haven't tried it out yet. Liz


Re: Digitizer Junior vs Embird

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

The only thing you would gain, other than the hoops, is the ability to send a design directly to the machine or USB. If Embird has met your needs up to now, then I would recommend you stick with it. One word of caution though - with the 11000 Embird mistakenly assumed that designs for the 11000 HAD to be JEF+ in order to support the larger hoops. They reverse-engineered the JEF+ format, but did not implement it fully. This created some problems in the first releases. With the 12000 we still have JEF and JEF+, but there is a new format JPX added to the mix. Embird will have to reverse-engineer that as well, and there could be some rough patches until they get it right. The safest course would be to take all designs created by Embird into HorizonLink first, preparatory to sending them to the machine or USB drive. That will help prevent throwing something at the machine that it is not prepared to deal with.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Martin" <shejmartin@...> wrote:

While we are on the subject, would there be any advantage in buying Digitizer Junior if I already have Embird, except for the fact that Embird doesn't yet contain the 12000 hoops?

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Jim_Stutsman" <jim@> wrote:

I can't speak for Janome, but I seriously doubt it. Digitizer Junior is really designed as a tool for converting formats and doing very low level digitizing. At our store we routinely gave it away with embroidery machines so the new owners would have the basic tools for embroidery.

There is an upgrade to take Digitizer Junior V3 to the full Digitizer MBX. It's part number 254747009. The price from most dealers would be north of $1,000, but this will vary widely from dealer to dealer and country to country. A dealer friend of mine accepted Digitizer Junior V3 as part of his customers' trade-in packages. Talk to your dealer and see if you can work something out. I doubt you'll get it free, but if you've bought a 12000 from him/her, you are in a good bargaining position.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, Ron Wilson <rwilson31@> wrote:

is there going to be an upgrade to ver 3? cost or no charge upgrade? guess
which I prefer?

Judy
Subject line says it all. Thanks in advance. Judy


Digitizer Junior vs Embird

Sherry Martin
 

While we are on the subject, would there be any advantage in buying Digitizer Junior if I already have Embird, except for the fact that Embird doesn't yet contain the 12000 hoops?

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Jim_Stutsman" <jim@...> wrote:

I can't speak for Janome, but I seriously doubt it. Digitizer Junior is really designed as a tool for converting formats and doing very low level digitizing. At our store we routinely gave it away with embroidery machines so the new owners would have the basic tools for embroidery.

There is an upgrade to take Digitizer Junior V3 to the full Digitizer MBX. It's part number 254747009. The price from most dealers would be north of $1,000, but this will vary widely from dealer to dealer and country to country. A dealer friend of mine accepted Digitizer Junior V3 as part of his customers' trade-in packages. Talk to your dealer and see if you can work something out. I doubt you'll get it free, but if you've bought a 12000 from him/her, you are in a good bargaining position.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, Ron Wilson <rwilson31@> wrote:

is there going to be an upgrade to ver 3? cost or no charge upgrade? guess
which I prefer?

Judy
Subject line says it all. Thanks in advance. Judy


Re: What is the difference between Janome Digitizer jr 3 and Janome Digitizer jr 4

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

I can't speak for Janome, but I seriously doubt it. Digitizer Junior is really designed as a tool for converting formats and doing very low level digitizing. At our store we routinely gave it away with embroidery machines so the new owners would have the basic tools for embroidery.

There is an upgrade to take Digitizer Junior V3 to the full Digitizer MBX. It's part number 254747009. The price from most dealers would be north of $1,000, but this will vary widely from dealer to dealer and country to country. A dealer friend of mine accepted Digitizer Junior V3 as part of his customers' trade-in packages. Talk to your dealer and see if you can work something out. I doubt you'll get it free, but if you've bought a 12000 from him/her, you are in a good bargaining position.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, Ron Wilson <rwilson31@...> wrote:

is there going to be an upgrade to ver 3? cost or no charge upgrade? guess
which I prefer?

Judy
Subject line says it all. Thanks in advance. Judy


Re: What is the difference between Janome Digitizer jr 3 and Janome Digitizer jr 4

Cheryl Paul
 

Judy,

The upgrade to Version 3 is the new version 4. I don't believe that Janome will be adding anything new to version 3 now that the new one is here.

Cheryl

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, Ron Wilson <rwilson31@...> wrote:

is there going to be an upgrade to ver 3? cost or no charge upgrade? guess
which I prefer?

Judy


Re: Thinking of buying

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

There is no issue of metric tools vs imperial. ALL Janome products use the same metric screws, which have been the standard in Japan for many, many years. A machine made for Australia will differ from a machine made for Canada only in labeling and required certifications for the respective country.

Voltage differences are also a non-issue. With the Memory Craft 10000 they moved to switching power supplies that work on all voltages, just as computers do. The only thing required would be a new power cord with the correct plug on the wall end.

However I still think it's a very bad idea to buy a machine "out of country", especially when it costs as much as the 12000 does!

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Sheila" <rainbird@...> wrote:

There is also the question of power supply - Australia has 240V alternating current but I believe the USA uses direct current at a lower voltage, so would I be right in thinking that a voltage reducer would be required to use a machine made for the Australian market in the USA?

Sheila
Western Australia

On 27/02/2012 9:21:36 AM, Donna Morton (demorton@...) wrote:
The other issue is one that crops up when someone from Canada buys a
machine in the US during the winter is where the machine is "metric" or
"imperial". Canadian dealers do not have the correct tools to work on a
machine produced for the American market so if something goes wrong, the
machine has to be worked on by a dealer in the US.

Donna M
Canada


Re: What is the difference between Janome Digitizer jr 3 and Janome Digitizer jr 4

vicki chrobak
 

Judy-Jr4 has the 12000 hoops. Beyond that I can't say because I didn't have jr3.

--
Vicki Jo

Subject line says it all. Thanks in advance. Judy


Re: What is the difference between Janome Digitizer jr 3 and Janome Digitizer jr 4

ronwilson0007
 

is there going to be an upgrade to ver 3? cost or no charge upgrade? guess which I prefer?
 
Judy

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Jim_Stutsman <jim@...> wrote:
 

The only significant difference is that Digitizer Junior 4 supports the 12000, while version 3 does not. Everything else is pretty much the same.



--- In janome12000@..., "judyjanome" wrote:
>
> Subject line says it all. Thanks in advance. Judy
>



Re: Thinking of buying

Sheila <rainbird@...>
 

There is also the question of power supply - Australia has 240V alternating current but I believe the USA uses direct current at a lower voltage, so would I be right in thinking that a voltage reducer would be required to use a machine made for the Australian market in the USA?
 
Sheila
Western Australia
 

On 27/02/2012 9:21:36 AM, Donna Morton (demorton@...) wrote:
> The other issue is one that crops up when someone from Canada buys a
> machine in the US during the winter is where the machine is "metric" or
> "imperial". Canadian dealers do not have the correct tools to work on a
> machine produced for the American market so if something goes wrong, the
> machine has to be worked on by a dealer in the US.
>
> Donna M
> Canada
>
>
>
> From: Jim_Stutsman [link: mailto:jim@...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:35 PM
> To: janome12000@...
> Subject: [janome12000] Re: Thinking of buying
>
>
>
>
>
> That's a little risky. First, because the warranty on an Australian machine is with Janome Australia, not valid in the US. Second, you will likely have to


Re: What is the difference between Janome Digitizer jr 3 and Janome Digitizer jr 4

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

The only significant difference is that Digitizer Junior 4 supports the 12000, while version 3 does not. Everything else is pretty much the same.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "judyjanome" <judyjanome@...> wrote:

Subject line says it all. Thanks in advance. Judy


Re: Thinking of buying

Donna Morton
 

The other issue is one that crops up when someone from Canada buys a machine in the US during the winter is where the machine is “metric” or “imperial”.  Canadian dealers do not have the correct tools to work on a machine produced for the American market so if something goes wrong, the machine has to be worked on by a dealer in the US. 
 
Donna M
Canada
 
 
 

Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:35 PM
Subject: [janome12000] Re: Thinking of buying
 
 

That's a little risky. First, because the warranty on an Australian machine is with Janome Australia, not valid in the US. Second, you will likely have to pay Customs fees when the machine comes into the US. When the value is over $2,000 (may be different now, this was a few years ago), you need to pay the carrier (UPS, FedEx, etc.) before they will even deliver it. By the time you add in the extra costs, you'll be at a price that a US dealer will meet and you'll get to see it before you pay for it!

--- In mailto:janome12000%40yahoogroups.com, "HC" wrote:
>
>
> Have you checked eBay? An Australian dealer has one there at the moment Au$7500 (Aussie and US $$ are only a few cents difference right now). The listing states there is FULL Janome warranty and the box is UNopened.
>
> I have absolutely NO affiliation with the seller, nor do I know who he/she is, but it's a very tempting offer with only $50 shipping and store backup. There is no dealer close to where I live and with my other Janome machines I've always kept the original box with polystyrene inserts and send my machines back to state office for servicing, it only costs postage one way, or if I'm going to be in the city I pre-arrange the service to be done while I wait, or pickup the machine the next day if I'm hanging around overnight.
>
> Leaves a 'whole' lot of $$$ to buy thread and fabric!!!
>
> ;-))
>
>
>
> > On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 1:05 PM, peggy barrett wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, I am new to the group and thinking of buying the 12000. I have the
> > > 10001 and 6600. I know you can't use the same hoops, but can I use other
> > > things from my 10001. Will I need to purchase anything extra to transfer
> > > designs to the machine. This is a big purchase for me, so I'd love any and
> > > all input. Should I call shops to get prices or are they a set price.
> > > Thank you,
> > > Peggy on Cape Cod
>
> >
>


What is the difference between Janome Digitizer jr 3 and Janome Digitizer jr 4

judyjanome <judyjanome@...>
 

Subject line says it all. Thanks in advance. Judy


Re: Thinking of buying

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

The 11000 feet will not fit on the 12000 unless you use the 11000 foot holder. Because of the 12000 having a 9mm width, the foot holder is different. This is also true for 10000 feet. They are high shank, like the 11000 and 12000, and can be used on the 12000 with the 7mm foot holder used on the 10000, 11000, 6600, or 7700.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, Judith Killen <judith_killen@...> wrote:

That is the way I work. I go around and get the prices BUT also I keep in mind the number of staff. As you always need some 1:1 time with a staff member( if they listened to their training and if they had it), to go over with you the new technology. Once you have had this for only a very short time you will glide ahead as you are proficient with the 10. If there is only 1 staff you will get interupted while you are having your lesson. also the dealer needs to be close (if the price is right) so you can gain the benefit of service and bits to your needs. In Australia the RRP was $12000 for the 12000. I ended paying out a little more than half. I used an old machine for trade in and sold the 11 on ebay.
I am very happy with the machine and the horizenlink. I add ---so far!!!! I like the hoop sizes and have no issue. The feet from the 11 fit the 12. BUT someone might remember better than me But I think the 10 had a shorter shank and therefore the feet would not fit. But I stand corrected if so as it was along time since I had the 10.
Happy shopping
Judith---Sydney


Re: Thinking of buying

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

That's a little risky. First, because the warranty on an Australian machine is with Janome Australia, not valid in the US. Second, you will likely have to pay Customs fees when the machine comes into the US. When the value is over $2,000 (may be different now, this was a few years ago), you need to pay the carrier (UPS, FedEx, etc.) before they will even deliver it. By the time you add in the extra costs, you'll be at a price that a US dealer will meet and you'll get to see it before you pay for it!

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "HC" <happycamper_au@...> wrote:


Have you checked eBay? An Australian dealer has one there at the moment Au$7500 (Aussie and US $$ are only a few cents difference right now). The listing states there is FULL Janome warranty and the box is UNopened.

I have absolutely NO affiliation with the seller, nor do I know who he/she is, but it's a very tempting offer with only $50 shipping and store backup. There is no dealer close to where I live and with my other Janome machines I've always kept the original box with polystyrene inserts and send my machines back to state office for servicing, it only costs postage one way, or if I'm going to be in the city I pre-arrange the service to be done while I wait, or pickup the machine the next day if I'm hanging around overnight.

Leaves a 'whole' lot of $$$ to buy thread and fabric!!!

;-))



On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 1:05 PM, peggy barrett <peggy27b@> wrote:



Hi, I am new to the group and thinking of buying the 12000. I have the
10001 and 6600. I know you can't use the same hoops, but can I use other
things from my 10001. Will I need to purchase anything extra to transfer
designs to the machine. This is a big purchase for me, so I'd love any and
all input. Should I call shops to get prices or are they a set price.
Thank you,
Peggy on Cape Cod


Re: Thinking of buying

HC <happycamper_au@...>
 

Have you checked eBay? An Australian dealer has one there at the moment Au$7500 (Aussie and US $$ are only a few cents difference right now). The listing states there is FULL Janome warranty and the box is UNopened.

I have absolutely NO affiliation with the seller, nor do I know who he/she is, but it's a very tempting offer with only $50 shipping and store backup. There is no dealer close to where I live and with my other Janome machines I've always kept the original box with polystyrene inserts and send my machines back to state office for servicing, it only costs postage one way, or if I'm going to be in the city I pre-arrange the service to be done while I wait, or pickup the machine the next day if I'm hanging around overnight.

Leaves a 'whole' lot of $$$ to buy thread and fabric!!!

;-))

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 1:05 PM, peggy barrett <peggy27b@...> wrote:



Hi, I am new to the group and thinking of buying the 12000. I have the
10001 and 6600. I know you can't use the same hoops, but can I use other
things from my 10001. Will I need to purchase anything extra to transfer
designs to the machine. This is a big purchase for me, so I'd love any and
all input. Should I call shops to get prices or are they a set price.
Thank you,
Peggy on Cape Cod


Re: Bonus with Purchase of 12000

kkrissyb <krissy.b@...>
 

I will have to contact my dealer and see if he has mine. Problem is that he has a store in Gympie and at present the road between where I live and my dealer is washed out due to flooding so will have to wait longer

Kris in Aus

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Liz" <dse7sew@...> wrote:

Yes I live in Queensland Australia and got my trolly case last week. It is huge and takes up a lot of room. Saying that it is easy to move around. I haven't tried it out yet. Liz


Re: Thinking of buying

Patricia Ward
 

Hello Peggy,
If you have and use a 10001 and a 6600 I know you would LOVE the 12000.   It has extras that even these two machines combined do not have and it makes sewing and quilting a dream.  The power of the machine; the quietness, the quality of stitches -- it is all so nice. 
Yes, it is a big purchase but the thing I think it more important than price is the reputation of the dealer and the service and support that they give.  If I had to pay a little extra to get the machine at the dealer who had the excellent service reputation than that is what I would do.
For me there is only one dealer within 70 miles so he of course is and has been my dealer for years.  You can walk into this store and see the certificates on the wall from Janome trainings and institutes and know that they have the years of experience and training to take care of your machine. 

This list is owned by the Guru of Janome Machines.... I guess if you are a Janome person you know that.  lol 

I personally think that the 12000 would be a wonderful experience for you and really I think that it is pretty much a set price. I even heard the rumor that Janome was dictating how low they could go and keep their dealership so you are not going to find any internet bargains or store bargains for I think that the price is pretty much uniform all over the states.  I think that the only variable would be the numbers on your trade ins and the amount of cash you have to come up with. 

Good luck and welcome to our list.  I hope to see you posting that you bought it because you will be delighted with it.

Pat in Maryland


On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 1:05 PM, peggy barrett <peggy27b@...> wrote:


Hi,  I am new to the group and thinking of buying the 12000.  I have the 10001 and 6600. I know you can't use the same hoops, but can I use other things from my 10001. Will I need to purchase anything extra to transfer designs to the machine.  This is a big purchase for me, so I'd love any and all input.  Should I call shops to get prices or are they a set price.
Thank you,
Peggy on Cape Cod


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Re: Thinking of buying

Judith Killen
 

That is the way I work. I go around and get the prices BUT also I keep in mind the number of staff. As you always need some 1:1 time with a staff member( if they listened to their training and if they had it), to go over with you the new technology. Once you have had this for only a very short time you will glide ahead as you are proficient with the 10. If there is only 1 staff you will get interupted while you are having your lesson. also the dealer needs to be close (if the price is right) so you can gain the benefit of service and bits to your needs. In Australia the RRP was $12000 for the 12000. I ended paying out a little more than half. I used an old machine for trade in and sold the 11 on ebay.
I am very happy with the machine and the horizenlink. I add ---so far!!!! I like the hoop sizes and have no issue. The feet from the 11 fit the 12. BUT someone might remember better than me But I think the 10 had a shorter shank and therefore the feet would not fit. But I stand corrected if so as it was along time since I had the 10.
Happy shopping
Judith---Sydney



From: peggy barrett
To: janome12000@...
Sent: Monday, 27 February 2012 5:05 AM
Subject: [janome12000] Thinking of buying

 
Hi,  I am new to the group and thinking of buying the 12000.  I have the 10001 and 6600. I know you can't use the same hoops, but can I use other things from my 10001. Will I need to purchase anything extra to transfer designs to the machine.  This is a big purchase for me, so I'd love any and all input.  Should I call shops to get prices or are they a set price.
Thank you,
Peggy on Cape Cod



Re: Thinking of buying

Bea Rosier <bearosier@...>
 

I bought it in late November – traded in my MC10001 and MC7700.  The MC12 does everything the MC10001 and the 7700 did, plus much more.  Since the machine will sew a 9 mm zigzag, most of the feet you have for your MC10, MC77, MC11, and MC66 don’t fit, including the adjustable zipper foot.

However, I still own the MC11, MB4 and MC66 and of all these machines, I believe the MC12 is the best I’ve ever used.  It is a dream to sew on, and the quality of the embroidery is excellent.  I would highly recommend it.   I haven’t yet done any quilting but I have a long arm, so I usually don’t quilt on these machines.

I don’t think you could go wrong with the MC12.

Bea


Thinking of buying

peggy barrett
 

Hi,  I am new to the group and thinking of buying the 12000.  I have the 10001 and 6600. I know you can't use the same hoops, but can I use other things from my 10001. Will I need to purchase anything extra to transfer designs to the machine.  This is a big purchase for me, so I'd love any and all input.  Should I call shops to get prices or are they a set price.
Thank you,
Peggy on Cape Cod