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Digitizer Jr. 4.0/group

vicki chrobak
 

I recently purchased the program, primarily for customizing purposes, but would also like to learn the basic digitizing in the program. My dealer is not forthcoming in lessons (with machine or program) so I was wondering if there is an on-line group/sources that specializes in Digitizer Jr. ?

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Vicki Jo


Some Things I Didn't Know about 12000 and learned in Lesson

Sherry Martin
 

Had a group lesson on Sat. on the 12000. I learned a couple of small things I didn't know (and should have known) that were really helpful to me.

When replacing a snap on presser foot, you can push the presser foot up-and-down button and then the mechanical presser foot lifter can be put up and down. I was just clunking the machine down onto the presser foot by pushing the button and I knew that didn't seem right, but I couldn't figure out how to lower the mechanical one. The trick is that you have to push the up-down button 1st. And most of the people in the class didn't know that either.

On the bed of the machine there are a lot of useful lines. One line which goes all the way across, shows exactly where the needle is. So it is a good line to line up your fabric with when beginning to sew. Since you can begin sewing without lowering the presser foot 1st, it is a really good way to see that your fabric is in the right place.

Farther to the front by the little plate you take off to change the bobbin there is a line indicating a 1/4" seam. I noticed that when using the 1/4" foot that the 1/4" line doesn't make the fabric exactly line up with the edge of the guide. The instructor said you shouldn't be lining up your fabric exactly against the guide anyway. SO if you like to line your fabric up exactly against the guide and you want to get a scant 1/4" seam, when using the Quilting Stitch that says 1/4" patchwork you need to move your needle to the right a click or two.

There are also guides for I think 1/8" and 3/8" and for 45 degree angles.

Also on both 1/4" feet there is a mark on the foot 1/4" from the front edge of the fabric for when you want to turn a corner. I think most 1/4" feet have these but I had forgotten about it.


New Presser Feet and Thread Stand

Sherry Martin
 

I went to my dealer's on Sat. for a 3 hr. group lesson of 12000 purchasers. There were 6 of us. Can you imagine how much money was sitting there? My husband and I joked it was 2 really nice cars. This lesson was about the sewing features on the machine and was a good refresher of the private lesson I got when I purchased the machine.

Anyway, they had the thread stand made specifically for the 12000. It screws onto the back of the machine and holds 6 spools. It has a little thread guide that goes into the extra hole on the front. They were charging about $32 for it. I bought it but actually may return it because I have a stand that holds 1 spool that I had with a Pfaff machine and it works perfectly on the front extra spool hole. I don't like having to get up and down constantly to see the spools and rethread. I never could figure out why you would need a holder that holds 6 spools when you can only use one color at once. Is there something I'm missing?

I also purchased the ditch stitch foot for the dual feed presser foot and the piping foot. She had about 5 other presser feet and I can't remember what they all were. I know a couple were for rolled hems.

They were also selling the Horizon roller bag which can be used with the 12000. The dealer offered it at 1/2 price so they were flying out the door. I didn't buy one because I'm not planning on ever taking my machine anywhere except for one more group lesson next week which will be about the embroidery module.


Re: 12000

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Welcome to the group!

Those "tails" after trimming are very annoying. I suspect that the machine is leaving the tension discs open while moving to the next location, allowing the drag of the cut end on the fabric to pull out more thread. Since this action is controlled by the printer software, it can be fixed with an update. The 11000 did not have this problem, so hopefully Janome will fix it on the 12000.

Your digitized design issue is not likely due to stitch length, as weave fill stitches cannot be made too long. I would guess you probably used the default weave settings, which are right for most projects. Loops on top of the fabric can be caused by many things. I would begin with the stabilizer. When you created your project, did you set the fabric in Digitizer? This dialog pops up at the very beginning, right after you open the program. The default is pure cotton, which is what you get if you dismiss the dialog. You can change the settings for your design by opening the JAN file in EasyDesign, selecting all objects (CTRL + A), and choosing "Setup - Choose fabric" from the menu. Scroll through the list for the appropriate fabric choice, but before clicking the OK button have a look at the "Required stabilizer" box. This will give you the recommended stabilizer choice for the chosen fabric. Once you have clicked the OK button, Digitizer will work behind the scenes to tune your design for that fabric.

When loops appear it can also be a sign of a dull needle, or one that is a bit too large. If you are using a red tip Janome (size 14) try a blue tip (size 11). I've also found that build-up from sticky stabilizer can cause loops, but you haven't had your machine long enough for that to be a problem, and it usually happens on all stitches, not just one direction. Diane says to make sure that the fabric is tight in the hoop. If there is too much "flutter" it may show up in only certain directions of stitching.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "jeana_david" <jeana.david@...> wrote:

Hi, I am a newbie to the group from the UK and to the 12000,I have a Pfaff CV and have been a Pfaff embroiderer for years,however rather than upgrade my CV I opted for the 12000 as I had a Horizon which I loved. So far I am very pleased but have 2 queries which I hope someone might settle.
I have set the machine to trim jump stitches and find that after the trim I am left with thread poking up from the back of the new section, as if the thread carried across was too long to disapear.
Also I digitised a simple flower design that used weave fill 25 in its petals. I had changed the angle of the fill with each petal and had problems with the stitch out where the fill was horizontal,the thread seemed to loop and catch between the needle and the fabric. Is this because the stitches are too long to go sideways?Or is the tension too loose,all other petals were fine!Or could it be the thread?
Thanks ,I am enjoying reading the post and have found the answers very helpful.I also have and love the foot app.


Re: Horizon Link software

Vikki Youngmeyer
 

Thank you  -that’s what I was looking for.

 

Vikki

 

From: janome12000@... [mailto:janome12000@...] On Behalf Of Jim_Stutsman
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Subject: [janome12000] Re: Horizon Link software

 

 

Open the Stitch Composer. Click on the "STX" circle in the top left corner and choose "Open". This will give you the sample files, but unfortunately there are no previews. They mostly correspond to the stitches on the lid of your machine that are shaded in pink.

--- In janome12000@..., "Vikki Youngmeyer" wrote:
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> How do I get to these "sample" files?
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> In a way. You can open the sample files included with the software and
> modify those. However you don't have the files for the existing stitches to
> open and modify. Once we get to the point of documenting Horizon Link we may
> be able to discover a loophole.
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Re: A couple of embroidery questions

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

I have not worked with many of the included designs on the machine, but generally you can leave the jump cut turned off and turn the "Cutting command" feature on. That way the only cuts that will be made are the ones that the digitizer put into the design. Most designs sold today are built to work this way, as so many people have commercial, or multi-needle machines that rely on those trim commands.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "gbmko" <gbmko@...> wrote:

Thank you for the information.

is there a way to tell beforehand which designs you want to have the "jump cut" turned off?

the design is beautiful stitched out! I'll give it a try again with that feature turned off.


Re: combine decorative stitches

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

The embroidery section of the machine has two sets of decorative stitches - Border stitches and Normal Sew stitches. You can combine these in your computer with the Horizon Link software and then send them to the machine to be embroidered. Digitizer MBX has a large number of motifs that can be combined and used like decorative stitches, and you can create motifs of your own.

I'm not sure what you have in mind with rows of different decorative stitches, but it would probably be faster to just stitch them on the finished piece.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Liz" <dse7sew@...> wrote:

Is it possible to combine several rows of different decorative stitches in the Horizon software and then send them to the machine to sew in the embroidery hoop?? or do I have to have the other more expensive software to do this. Thanks Liz


Re: upright spool pin

Marsha
 

Sue,
 
You can use the thread guide from the 11000. You need to turn it sideways  place it over the thread cutter (beside the bobbin winder).     I put some pics of it in use in my album (Marsha's Projects)
 
HTH,
 
Marsha


12000

Jeana David
 

Hi, I am a newbie to the group from the UK and to the 12000,I have a Pfaff CV and have been a Pfaff embroiderer for years,however rather than upgrade my CV I opted for the 12000 as I had a Horizon which I loved. So far I am very pleased but have 2 queries which I hope someone might settle.
I have set the machine to trim jump stitches and find that after the trim I am left with thread poking up from the back of the new section, as if the thread carried across was too long to disapear.
Also I digitised a simple flower design that used weave fill 25 in its petals. I had changed the angle of the fill with each petal and had problems with the stitch out where the fill was horizontal,the thread seemed to loop and catch between the needle and the fabric. Is this because the stitches are too long to go sideways?Or is the tension too loose,all other petals were fine!Or could it be the thread?
Thanks ,I am enjoying reading the post and have found the answers very helpful.I also have and love the foot app.


Re: Walking or teflon foot

stitchnpatch
 

I used the single dual feed foot to stitch a leather bag as I didn't have a walking or teflon foot and it worked perfectly - there were however a number of operator errors in the construction process!!

Let us know how you get on using it with the stretchy fabric.

Vicki


Re: A couple of embroidery questions

gbmko
 

Thank you for the information.

is there a way to tell beforehand which designs you want to have the "jump cut" turned off?

the design is beautiful stitched out! I'll give it a try again with that feature turned off.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Jim_Stutsman" <jim@...> wrote:

We may have gotten bobbin thread - if we did it's probably still in the box.

Yes, you can embroider with the table in place. In fact it's probably better that way as your hoop is more stable.

With that particular design you don't want to have the jump cut turned on. Although the design does not actually have any "true" jumps in it, there are 6 stitches that are coded as jumps. They are part of the underlay. This may be causing some confusion to the machine. Turn off the jump cut and it should sew correctly.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "gbmko" <gbmko@> wrote:


combine decorative stitches

Liz
 

Is it possible to combine several rows of different decorative stitches in the Horizon software and then send them to the machine to sew in the embroidery hoop?? or do I have to have the other more expensive software to do this. Thanks Liz


Re: Walking or teflon foot

loreleigustafson@att.net <lore@...>
 

Thank you, Jim and Diane. For the past few hours, I've been staring (well, not steadily!)at those two feet and doing some sort of "vision of the process" and was too insecure -- couldn't decide if AD or VD would work. I'll test drive them both with stitch 6.

Lore

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Jim_Stutsman" <jim@...> wrote:

Diane says the Teflon foot would be a bad idea, as it would push the fabric ahead of it. She recommends using either the twin (AD) or single (VD) dual feed foot, which performs the same function as a walking foot. Use stitch 6, which will allow for some stretch in the finished seam.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "loreleigustafson@" <lore@> wrote:

Would any of the feet that shipped with the 12000 work as a walking or teflon foot? I'm sewing a smocked rayon jersey knit and don't want to mess this up!


Re: Walking or teflon foot

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Diane says the Teflon foot would be a bad idea, as it would push the fabric ahead of it. She recommends using either the twin (AD) or single (VD) dual feed foot, which performs the same function as a walking foot. Use stitch 6, which will allow for some stretch in the finished seam.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "loreleigustafson@..." <lore@...> wrote:

Would any of the feet that shipped with the 12000 work as a walking or teflon foot? I'm sewing a smocked rayon jersey knit and don't want to mess this up!


Re: Kit question

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

You can download the instruction book here:
http://content.janome.com/documents/File/ManualFile/Inst%20book%20MC11000%20Special%20Edition%20(English).pdf
The stitch chart is on page 106.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, <theagedpage@...> wrote:

Jim - do you know where I can get a Icon Reference Chart for my 11000. I traded mine in on a 12000 and the one thing I am missing is that Icon Reference Chart. Thank you


Kit question

theagedpage@...
 

Jim - do you know where I can get a Icon Reference Chart for my 11000. I traded mine in on a 12000 and the one thing I am missing is that Icon Reference Chart. Thank you


upright spool pin

sue <sue@...>
 

We were working on a thread guide. My husband put a screw eye in a 1/4" dowel and we put it in the extra spool hole. It was too small to hold the screw, but worked fine for a thread holder. Then I found a broken off top of a thread holder from my serger, and it fit just fine in the spool holder hole. I still would like a thread guide from my thread rack behind the machine. so far I have been putting in the extra thread holder and just guiding the thread around that. why did they make the hold different size from the 11000? they make us start over...


Walking or teflon foot

loreleigustafson@att.net <lore@...>
 

Would any of the feet that shipped with the 12000 work as a walking or teflon foot? I'm sewing a smocked rayon jersey knit and don't want to mess this up!


Re: A couple of embroidery questions

Vikki Youngmeyer
 

I received the bobbin thread. However, I didn’t receive the vertical pin to hold thread spools, nor the little red felt piece.  

 

Because of my setup, I’ve had to remove the extension table when doing embroidery. I do have the accessory box in place.

 

Haven’t tried your design, but have actually “paused” the machine to remove some “fluff” (okay dog hair) from the work surface and it restarted okay.

 

Vikki

Houston, TX

 


Re: A couple of embroidery questions

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Your XP computer with 1GB is adequate for Horizon Link, but a bit weak for Digitizer MBX. All of the Janome software is now fully compatible with Windows 7, both 32 and 64-bit. Horizon Link does allow sending to the machine directly, but is no substitute for Digitizer. With MBX you can continue to use USB to take designs to the machine, just as you've done for the 11000. In that event you would not have to install Horizon Link, unless you wanted to be able to create custom sewing stitches.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, Beverly Vangool <bvangool@...> wrote:

Hi Jim

I have bought the 12000 and am planning to buy a new computer to accommodate the new upgrade for the digitizer. Right now my laptop is an older XP with 1 Gb and I haven't bought the upgrade yet as I think my computer probably can't handle it. Can it? Could you please give the minimum requirements needed. I have a Mac desktop but think I will buy a PC laptop as I find the Mac issues a pain when it comes to Janome (I'm not very computer literate). Can you use the 64 bit Windows or do you need the 32 bit?

I also wonder if you use Digitizer MBX what is the advantage of Horizon Link other that being able to go direct to the sewing machine?? Is there anything else the Horizon Link does that digitizer can't do? Can you not do all the editing on the digitizer and put them on the USB stick and take them to the sewing machine like we did with the 1100? Would I have to instal Horizon Link on the new computer if I don't plan on going direct to the sewing machine?

Thanks for helping

Bev