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Re: Removing automatic back or lock stitch on zigzag

Anne Parker <annegparker@...>
 

Hi Patti

I'm of the same mind as you! :0)

This has set me a challenge to find a workaround if it's not possible.  Didn't realize that you couldn't turn the lock stitch off for the zig zag - how about using a thread bunny to sew on first and then feeding the stitching on to where you want to sew?


Anne
​ in Stubbington, UK​

www.sewingtales.wordpress.com

With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.  "Desiderata" Max Ehrmann

On 10 November 2014 15:24, pble2000@... [janome12000] <janome12000@...> wrote:
 

Hi all,

I'm almost afraid to ask this question but here goes -- is there a way to remove the automatic back or lock stitching on the basic zigzag stitch? I am not a fan of this method of starting a seam and often have a little mess at the beginning when it kicks in. I know I can use a cheater fabric to start a seam but would prefer just eliminating the stitching. I am learning that Janome is very prescriptive in their approach to sewing and I am accustomed to making my own choices rather than relying on them to 'do the right thing.'


And, along this line, I had to smile when someone mentioned that Janome should have included something or other for easy 1/4 inch sewing because that was standard. Well, some of us don't piece quilt blocks so it isn't necessarily 'standard' for all. All in all, it's a pretty great machine and, like anything mechanical, has a few quirks too. ;-)


Patti


Diane says:

Pull the bobbin thread to the top before you start the zigzag. That should eliminate the mess on the back. There is no way to turn off the lock stitch.



Re: Trip to dealer 15000

cas <cas@...>
 


Thanks for the encouragement Estelle.  I'm hoping mine was just a glitch and the new threader will be fine.
 
I've only used size 90 topstitch needles, so I don't think I bent it in a too small needle.  Maybe I didn't have the needle all the way to the top.  The tech did say it seemed to be all the way to the top when he was trying to thread it.
 
I'm wondering why he spent so long trying to thread it if the wire was already bent.  It seemed to me he got much more aggressive holding the thread over than I ever did.  I just followed the path that had been working fine before the upgrade.
Cas


Re: Trip to dealer 15000 and Needle threader

Anne Parker <annegparker@...>
 

Jo

I've only had my machine 2 weeks so am no expert - but I have owned various machines over the last 53 years - since I was 8.

The Janome needles are actually Organ needles anyway - take a look at the marking on the shank - the blue one is an Organ 11/75 and the Red and Purple are Organ 14/90. (sizes are also mentioned in the NOTE at the bottom of page 18 in the manual).  I believe the purple one has a slightly different tip to the red one, or else it's a slightly stronger needle, so it is used for more difficult/heavier sewing that the red one.

There is no warning in the manual about using different makes of needles.  Since all modern domestic sewing machine needles are System 705 / 15x1 needles, the top of the needle eye should be at the same distance from the top of the shank on all this System needles so that the bobbin hook can pick up the loop formed by the top thread at the right time.

However different manufacturers may work to different tolerences and there may be minute differences between them.  Such differences, whilst usually ok for sewing may be an issue with a needle threader since the hook of the threader enters the needle eye at a specific point. My thinking is that if my threader is adjusted slightly high and I use a needle with a slightly lower eye then there could be an issue - it may hit the needle.  Even not pushing the Organ needle right up against the stop could possibly cause the same issue - so I double check every time I change a needle that it is right up to the top.

I use lots of makes of needles - Organ, Schmetz, Klasse, Groz-Beckert, Singer, Boye and others.

I have been used to sewing on Vintage Machines, and even on some have to set the needle manually as there is no stop, so I have got used to using a Vernier Guage to measure needles which can tell differences up to 0.02 mm - not visible to the naked eye.  It's probably overkill on my part so I appologize if I have confused anyone.

I am just trying to avoid any issues before I get them - as I love my needle threader! :0)

Regarding threads - I agree the manual is not specific on why not to use the threader - so my thinking is - trying to thread a 30 weight thread through a small eye, even a 14/90 could cause the delicate hook to bend.  The reason for not using it with metallic threads I am not so sure about - maybe because the threader puts some tension on the thread when threading which causes an issue that may make it impossible to thread, or maybe it could get trapped in the hook and scratch the hook, thus causing issues for further threading - only my thoughts and I'd welcome the real reasons.

Always happy to learn more about the technicalities of sewing!


Anne
​ in Stubbington, UK​

www.sewingtales.wordpress.com

With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.  "Desiderata" Max Ehrmann

On 9 November 2014 20:17, mimi_jo@... [janome12000] <janome12000@...> wrote:
 

Ann, my machine is just one week old. I am confused about the machine needles and automatic thread cutter. I addressed this confusion but not sure if reply was sent or cancelled. So, forgive if reply is a duplicate. 

Does the automatic threader on MC15000 work only with Janome needles or risk damage to threader?  I find no warning in the manual advising damage to needle threader if needles are from other brands. Did I overlook something?  

I am working on a Thanksgiving embroidery project using 40 weight Madeira nylon threads with the red Janome needle that came with the machine. When the design calls for using metallic threads, I switch to a metallic needle, size 14/90 by Schmetz but I thread needle manually.  I did read that threader did not work with metallic and thick threads like 30weight.   I do not recall seeing a warning  that using the threader in such cases would damage wire in the threader.  I use various size and styles of needles in sewing and embroidery, thus would appreciate clarity on what will actually damage the threader versus like merely causing  a failed threading. Thanks for any help. Jo



Re: Missing parts

Pam Davison
 

If you purchased this with a credit card contact your card company immediately.  Also let the dealer know that you will ask your credit card company to reverse the charge if they do not give you the items they promised immediately.

Sent from Windows Mail

From: mdaniel@... [janome12000]
Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎November‎ ‎09‎, ‎2014 ‎10‎:‎26‎ ‎PM
To: mdaniel@... [janome12000]

 

Hi Everyone,

I bought a used 12000 from my local dealer back in August. I went through the book to make sure I had everything, and of course I didn't. They ordered a couple of the missing items, but to date, I haven't gotten the embroidery needle plate and embroidery bobbin holder, and I don't have the button shank plate. They are going out of business at the end of the year, and have decided that I purchased the machine "as is"(something that wasn't discussed at the time), and if I want those things I need to purchase them. Soooo...my question is, how often do you guys even use the embroidery needle plate and bobbin holder? I know I want the button shank plate, but is it worth it to buy the other two items?

Thanks so much!

Lisa



Re: Trip to dealer 15000 and Needle threader

Linda M <linlefmul@...>
 

In Canada, all Janome machines come with Organ brand needles.  Brand is not an issue.

Linda

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:15 AM, pble2000@... [janome12000] <janome12000@...> wrote:
 

Jo, I don't think the brand of needle really matters with the needle threader (at least not on my machine). I have used both Janome/Organ and Schmetz. My threader works great most of the time now and the only hiccup was threading a very fine metallic. It just didn't want to thread so I threaded it manually. If it will continue like this, I will be a very happy camper!


Patti




--
Linda M.


Re: Trip to dealer 15000

cas <cas@...>
 


Thanks Vikki, if replacing the threader doesn't work I will certainly take it back and make them fix it.  I haven't sewn on it since, but I am going to document each weird thing that happens. 
 
Cas
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 7:07 PM
Subject: RE: [janome12000] Trip to dealer 15000

 

Sorry, but to me that sounds like BS and the outfit doesn’t want or have time to fixing it. There is a problem with pressure foot sensors – face it, admit it, replace the sensor! The other “stuff” as you put it is not a “glitch”. It’s a real problem as I have it with the 12000 machine. I was thinking of upgrading to the 15000, but since others are badmouthing it, I’ll stay with the demons I know!

Vikki

Houston, TX


Removing automatic back or lock stitch on zigzag

pble2000@...
 

Hi all,

I'm almost afraid to ask this question but here goes -- is there a way to remove the automatic back or lock stitching on the basic zigzag stitch? I am not a fan of this method of starting a seam and often have a little mess at the beginning when it kicks in. I know I can use a cheater fabric to start a seam but would prefer just eliminating the stitching. I am learning that Janome is very prescriptive in their approach to sewing and I am accustomed to making my own choices rather than relying on them to 'do the right thing.'


And, along this line, I had to smile when someone mentioned that Janome should have included something or other for easy 1/4 inch sewing because that was standard. Well, some of us don't piece quilt blocks so it isn't necessarily 'standard' for all. All in all, it's a pretty great machine and, like anything mechanical, has a few quirks too. ;-)


Patti


Diane says:

Pull the bobbin thread to the top before you start the zigzag. That should eliminate the mess on the back. There is no way to turn off the lock stitch.


Re: Trip to dealer 15000 and Needle threader

pble2000@...
 

Jo, I don't think the brand of needle really matters with the needle threader (at least not on my machine). I have used both Janome/Organ and Schmetz. My threader works great most of the time now and the only hiccup was threading a very fine metallic. It just didn't want to thread so I threaded it manually. If it will continue like this, I will be a very happy camper!

Patti


Re: Missing parts

cmgazerro@...
 

Gail,

My understanding is that the straight stitch plate is suggested for embroidery mode because it has more control of the stitch quality.

 My experience finds this to be true.

Carolyn


Re: Missing parts

Virginia
 

Lisa my suggestion is that you contact Janome with your issue before your dealer goes out of business.  

Virginia


-----Original Message-----
From: lapowell48@... [janome12000]
To: janome12000
Sent: Sun, Nov 9, 2014 11:26 pm
Subject: [janome12000] Missing parts

 
Hi Everyone,
I bought a used 12000 from my local dealer back in August. I went through the book to make sure I had everything, and of course I didn't. They ordered a couple of the missing items, but to date, I haven't gotten the embroidery needle plate and embroidery bobbin holder, and I don't have the button shank plate. They are going out of business at the end of the year, and have decided that I purchased the machine "as is"(something that wasn't discussed at the time), and if I want those things I need to purchase them. Soooo...my question is, how often do you guys even use the embroidery needle plate and bobbin holder? I know I want the button shank plate, but is it worth it to buy the other two items?
Thanks so much!
Lisa


Re: MBX Software Dilemma

Meryl Margolies
 

I have had Embird for years, but find the help function confusing. How do you split a large design?


Re: Missing parts

Patricia Ward
 

Lisa, I think you should go back to your dealer for he does owe you these things if you bought the machine as supposed to be complete. 
FWIW, if you have to, you probably should purchase the embroidery bobbin case and the throat plate.   But I think the throat plate may be in the range of $40+ and that is why I think you should really try to get the dealer to get it for you.

Good luck!

Pat

On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 8:49 PM, lapowell48@... [janome12000] <janome12000@...> wrote:


Hi Everyone,

I bought a used 12000 from my local dealer back in August. I went through the book to make sure I had everything, and of course I didn't. They ordered a couple of the missing items, but to date, I haven't gotten the embroidery needle plate and embroidery bobbin holder, and I don't have the button shank plate. They are going out of business at the end of the year, and have decided that I purchased the machine "as is"(something that wasn't discussed at the time), and if I want those things I need to purchase them. Soooo...my question is, how often do you guys even use the embroidery needle plate and bobbin holder? I know I want the button shank plate, but is it worth it to buy the other two items?

Thanks so much!

Lisa





Re: Missing parts

Gail Berkler
 

In my opinion, is it necessary, probably not, however, when I had the 12000 when I was having any problems with embroidery and it wasn't looking nice I would change plates and it seemed to fix the problem
Gail


On Sunday, November 9, 2014, lapowell48@... [janome12000] <janome12000@...> wrote:
 

Hi Everyone,

I bought a used 12000 from my local dealer back in August. I went through the book to make sure I had everything, and of course I didn't. They ordered a couple of the missing items, but to date, I haven't gotten the embroidery needle plate and embroidery bobbin holder, and I don't have the button shank plate. They are going out of business at the end of the year, and have decided that I purchased the machine "as is"(something that wasn't discussed at the time), and if I want those things I need to purchase them. Soooo...my question is, how often do you guys even use the embroidery needle plate and bobbin holder? I know I want the button shank plate, but is it worth it to buy the other two items?

Thanks so much!

Lisa


Re: Missing parts

Sue Sweet
 

Hi Lisa,
Just in case you haven’t checked, the 3 items you are missing are usually stored in the middle of the accessory tray, under the free arm area. Slide the accessory box off the machine to the left to access that area. Hope they are there !
Sue
 

Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 12:19 PM
Subject: [janome12000] Missing parts
 
 

Hi Everyone,

I bought a used 12000 from my local dealer back in August. I went through the book to make sure I had everything, and of course I didn't. They ordered a couple of the missing items, but to date, I haven't gotten the embroidery needle plate and embroidery bobbin holder, and I don't have the button shank plate. They are going out of business at the end of the year, and have decided that I purchased the machine "as is"(something that wasn't discussed at the time), and if I want those things I need to purchase them. Soooo...my question is, how often do you guys even use the embroidery needle plate and bobbin holder? I know I want the button shank plate, but is it worth it to buy the other two items?

Thanks so much!

Lisa


Missing parts

Lisa Powell
 

Hi Everyone,

I bought a used 12000 from my local dealer back in August. I went through the book to make sure I had everything, and of course I didn't. They ordered a couple of the missing items, but to date, I haven't gotten the embroidery needle plate and embroidery bobbin holder, and I don't have the button shank plate. They are going out of business at the end of the year, and have decided that I purchased the machine "as is"(something that wasn't discussed at the time), and if I want those things I need to purchase them. Soooo...my question is, how often do you guys even use the embroidery needle plate and bobbin holder? I know I want the button shank plate, but is it worth it to buy the other two items?

Thanks so much!

Lisa


Re: Best Digitizing Software for Mac

Creative Juice
 

Thank you so much, Jim!  This is very helpful.  I am learning that the sewing world doesn't seem very MAC friendly and I use it everyday in graphic design.


Re: Trip to dealer 15000 and Needle threader

mimi jo
 

Ann, my machine is just one week old. I am confused about the machine needles and automatic thread cutter. I addressed this confusion but not sure if reply was sent or cancelled. So, forgive if reply is a duplicate. 
Does the automatic threader on MC15000 work only with Janome needles or risk damage to threader?  I find no warning in the manual advising damage to needle threader if needles are from other brands. Did I overlook something?  

I am working on a Thanksgiving embroidery project using 40 weight Madeira nylon threads with the red Janome needle that came with the machine. When the design calls for using metallic threads, I switch to a metallic needle, size 14/90 by Schmetz but I thread needle manually.  I did read that threader did not work with metallic and thick threads like 30weight.   I do not recall seeing a warning  that using the threader in such cases would damage wire in the threader.  I use various size and styles of needles in sewing and embroidery, thus would appreciate clarity on what will actually damage the threader versus like merely causing  a failed threading. Thanks for any help. Jo


Re: MBX Software Dilemma

Meryl Margolies
 

Thanks for all the help. I finally put in the training video, and I think I've got it.


How many stitches can the 12000 do? I'm trying to do national park signs and they are very stitch intensive.


Nowhere near a national park, Jim says:

The 12000 can handle designs with up to 100,000 stitches. Designs that exceed that can be split using 3rd party software such as Embird, Buzz Tools and others.


Re: Info requested/possibly purchasing 15000

Anne Parker <annegparker@...>
 

In UK you can buy from a show but nominate a dealer/agent to receive commission and provide you with service.

Anne
​ in Stubbington, UK​

www.sewingtales.wordpress.com

With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.  "Desiderata" Max Ehrmann

On 9 November 2014 05:39, Kaye Lessard ekay50@... [janome12000] <janome12000@...> wrote:
 

Yes you can go to event and pay less maybe but then who will service it? Who will help you learn things about it?
Getting a good deal is great but without a good dealer you may end up paying more in long run-
Just had a lady buy some software at quilt show - couldn't get it installed - error messages- called the store she bought it from - was given a phone number after waited 2 days for someone to call her-
I helped her even though she had not bought from our dealer- I do software lessons for our dealer- but I did remind her that I could be mean and leave her on her own -
She is really sorry for buying there now!!!
So ask around your area and find a good dealer !!!
Just my opinion!!
Kaye in la

Sent from my iPhone



Re: Update for 12000 Horizon Link

cnystul in Mn.
 

I got a call yesterday from my Janome dealer to tell me my 5x7 hoop for the 12000 was in. The update is suppose to be released Nov. 14th. I was wondering would the update be through Janome or from the dealer?
 
Cathy Nystul

Jim says:
From what we've been hearing, Janome dealers have the 12000 update now. On the 14th you'll be able to download it and install it yourself.

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