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Re: PS Paypal

Jim Stutsman <jim@...>
 

The amount was not that much, and it was not their fault that I didn't get it. This is only a small part of the problems with PayPal. We're very busy working on the 12000 right now, so I'll keep using it until I have the time to revise our websites. In the meantime I don't want to talk about PayPal any more - it just makes me mad!


On Jan 11, 2012, at 3:11 AM, pinguin60@... wrote:

 

Hi Jim,
Just another thought about the Paypal money you didn't get. Why not ask the people to pay again? They intended to pay you and as you delivered the product they owe you the money. If this happened with a sale to me, I would request the seller to bill me through Paypal again.

Gerda







Re: Paypal Re: drum roll please :)

Pinguin
 

Thanks for this info. I hope the lady got her money back after this... cause I  think the buyer who destroyed the violin was at fault, he made a poor choice in order to get his money.
Gerda

Op 11-01-12 13:06, Keeps Me in Stitches schreef:

 

Gerda-

 

Although it does sound like an Urban Legend, this a particular story made the national news.  They had pictures of the violin and a violin expert on NBC talking about it.

 

Mary Kay

 

From: janome12000@... [mailto:janome12000@...] On Behalf Of pingui


Re: Paypal Re: drum roll please :)

Keeps Me in Stitches
 

Gerda-

 

Although it does sound like an Urban Legend, this a particular story made the national news.  They had pictures of the violin and a violin expert on NBC talking about it.

 

Mary Kay

 

From: janome12000@... [mailto:janome12000@...] On Behalf Of pinguin60@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:48 AM
To: janome12000@...
Subject: [janome12000] Paypal Re: drum roll please :)

 

 

Hi Jim,

you wrote:
Even worse is what happened to a young lady who sold a violin on eBay with PayPal (owned by eBay) payment. The buyer decided he didn't want it. She asked him to ship it back, and offered to pay for it. He contacted PayPal to cancel the sale. They said they could only do that if he provided proof it was damaged, so he smashed it to bits and sent them the picture. The seller is now out both her violin and $2,000.

Do you know this young lady personally? Or did you hear it as a story as it might be just an urban legend.

Because in this case Paypal was right to refuse to refund as there was nothing wrong with the sale. The right thing would have been that the lady had paid the amount back to her seller through Paypal. No need to smash a violin for that.

Gerda

 


For Jim,

ANNE <amd15@...>
 

Hi Jim,

There seems to be a delay in shipping the 12000 to Dubai and as we are planning to leave Saudi Arabia fairly soon I think I will have to forget about the machine at this time. But... in the meantime I have the chance to buy a Janome 350E embroidery alone machine which would probably work well alongside the 7700 and give me some experience with embroidery machines. I have to find out more about it and what I will need to be able to maybe buy and/or download patterns and hopefully some of them free, to the 350E.

Thanks you so much Jim and others for all your useful information and patient guidance.... I would like to stay on as a member as you suggested, it's surprising what tips one can learn!

My best wishes,
Annie
Saudi Arabia


PS Paypal

Pinguin
 

Hi Jim,
Just another thought about the Paypal money you didn't get. Why not ask the people to pay again? They intended to pay you and as you delivered the product they owe you the money. If this happened with a sale to me, I would request the seller to bill me through Paypal again.

Gerda





Paypal Re: drum roll please :)

Pinguin
 

Hi Jim,

you wrote:
Even worse is what happened to a young lady who sold a violin on eBay with PayPal (owned by eBay) payment. The buyer decided he didn't want it. She asked him to ship it back, and offered to pay for it. He contacted PayPal to cancel the sale. They said they could only do that if he provided proof it was damaged, so he smashed it to bits and sent them the picture. The seller is now out both her violin and $2,000.

Do you know this young lady personally? Or did you hear it as a story as it might be just an urban legend.

Because in this case Paypal was right to refuse to refund as there was nothing wrong with the sale. The right thing would have been that the lady had paid the amount back to her seller through Paypal. No need to smash a violin for that.

Gerda




Re: vertical spool pin

joylaytor
 

I've looked at the picture of this setup but still don't get what pieces are being used. Can someone explain exactly how this done? Thanks.
Joy


Re: vertical spool pin

joan12d
 

Wow! Such a simple solution that works! I think this machine is encouraging us to "think outside the box".
Joan

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Jim_Stutsman" <jim@...> wrote:

Yep, that works - very creative! One warning, though. It would be a good idea to put something under the spool, such as a spool felt ring or the round tray that comes with the square-bottomed extra spool pin on other models. The reason for this is that the turning spool, or the label on it, will leave marks on the top of your machine over time. I saw this a lot on older machines coming in for repairs, and it was sometimes impossible to clean off all the accumulated ink and label glue.

I've put a picture of this set-up in Diane's Discoveries, although it's actually Peg's discovery!

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "thistlebug" <pegijane39@> wrote:

Hi Jim, I wondered if you have tried the spool pin that we have to wind the bobbin as a vertical pin. I found that if you turn this upright the stem of the pin will fit in the designated spot and will accomodate quite a few different size spools as long as they aren't too tall. Hope some of you try this. Peg in FL


Magazine ad

cvaeth@...
 

Jim,

Pleas accept my sincere apology for the ad about magazines. That ad was suppose to go to another yahoo group that I belong to. I will certainly be more careful in the future.
I am sorry.

Chris


Re: vertical spool pin

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Yep, that works - very creative! One warning, though. It would be a good idea to put something under the spool, such as a spool felt ring or the round tray that comes with the square-bottomed extra spool pin on other models. The reason for this is that the turning spool, or the label on it, will leave marks on the top of your machine over time. I saw this a lot on older machines coming in for repairs, and it was sometimes impossible to clean off all the accumulated ink and label glue.

I've put a picture of this set-up in Diane's Discoveries, although it's actually Peg's discovery!

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "thistlebug" <pegijane39@...> wrote:

Hi Jim, I wondered if you have tried the spool pin that we have to wind the bobbin as a vertical pin. I found that if you turn this upright the stem of the pin will fit in the designated spot and will accomodate quite a few different size spools as long as they aren't too tall. Hope some of you try this. Peg in FL


Hello...

debbsie
 

Thank you for letting me join this group. I'm happy to be part of it.

I have a Janome Horizon MC12000 which I'm just getting acquainted with, a Janome MC11000SE and a Janome 1200D serger. I will soon be getting a Janome Jef Platinum 720 which will be easy to take to classes that do you require an embroidery machine.

I haven't been able to use my MC12000 for embroidery yet. It wasn't for lack of trying. Finally, I took it to my dealer/technician. He worked on it for a while and found that there was a tiny bit of grease on the sensor that reads the embroidery arm. He cleaned that up and now it's working. I'll be trying out the embroidery on it this weekend.

I look forward to learning and sharing with everyone.

Debbie


Re: vertical spool pin

loreleigustafson@att.net <lore@...>
 

Super helpful! Thank you!

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "thistlebug" <pegijane39@...> wrote:

Hi Jim, I wondered if you have tried the spool pin that we have to wind the bobbin as a vertical pin. I found that if you turn this upright the stem of the pin will fit in the designated spot and will accomodate quite a few different size spools as long as they aren't too tall. Hope some of you try this. Peg in FL


vertical spool pin

thistlebug <pegijane39@...>
 

Hi Jim, I wondered if you have tried the spool pin that we have to wind the bobbin as a vertical pin. I found that if you turn this upright the stem of the pin will fit in the designated spot and will accomodate quite a few different size spools as long as they aren't too tall. Hope some of you try this. Peg in FL


Re: drum roll please :)

Karen
 

I believe we are getting a bit off task on all the advantages of our Janome 12000.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "seamgood" <seamgood@...> wrote:

Well Ladies and Gentlemen,
I believe I sold my 11000 SE...soooo, I will call my dealer tomorrow...he is closed today!! and order my 12000. Hopefully, he has it in stock. At least he did two weeks ago, just waiting for me. I am just praying that the lady buying my machine goes through with it. I spoke with her on the phone and she sounds lovely and sincere. She is supposed to be sending the bank check out today and when it clears, I will ship the machine.
Does anyone know how pay pal works with a large sale? I'm only used to doing small money sales and don't know if pay pal will only release the aloted $500.00 a month till I collect the whole amount. The gal buying asked me to do pay pal, but I told her I wasn't sure how it worked with a larger sum of money. Any guidance? Should I just stick to the bank check and wait for clearance?
Oh, I know I'll have some questions once my machine gets here, but in the meantime, I'm reading everything I can in the files and all the digests. What a wonderful group this is! Thank you so much!
Gloria in MA


Re: drum roll please :)

Vikki Youngmeyer
 

That’s good to know. I don’t let money accumulate in PayPal’s coffers, and keep only a minimal amount in the checking account associated with it!

 

Vikki

Houston, TX

 

From: janome12000@... [mailto:janome12000@...] On Behalf Of Sherry Martin
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 6:22 PM
To: janome12000@...
Subject: [janome12000] Re: drum roll please :)

 

 

I have bought a few bigger items using paypal (less than $1,000 probably) but I always use my VISA card so that if there is a problem I can also file a claim thru my charge card company.

I also have sold a couple sewing machines (one I think around $1200 and one at about $2000) and I waited until the money came thru from paypal and then transferred it back out to my checking account before I mailed the machines. I let the people I sold the machines to know that I wouldn't be sending them until the money was in my bank account.



Re: drum roll please :)

Sherry Martin
 

I have bought a few bigger items using paypal (less than $1,000 probably) but I always use my VISA card so that if there is a problem I can also file a claim thru my charge card company.

I also have sold a couple sewing machines (one I think around $1200 and one at about $2000) and I waited until the money came thru from paypal and then transferred it back out to my checking account before I mailed the machines. I let the people I sold the machines to know that I wouldn't be sending them until the money was in my bank account.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Vikki Youngmeyer" <vikkiy@...> wrote:

I have used PayPal for years, mainly for small purchase items. I had a Janome 350e embroidery machine before buying the 12000, and I paid online to various embroidery design companies for their designs using Paypal. I was able to download the designs immediately, the transactions were under $50 and took less than 15 minutes from start to finish. One time I bought a CD of dog designs from an eBay vendor when eBay quit allowing downloads, and one of the designs wouldn’t load up. I emailed the seller and she sent me the file as an email attachment the next day.



I am show secretary for a number of dog shows and many times people pay their entry fees to me via PayPal. I have yet to have a problem with these types of transactions. If something were to go wrong with a transaction I would withhold their permit to show on the day of the show until they made it right with cash. I’ve had more problem with bounced checks than I’ve ever had with PayPal. If things ever got “hinky� after a show, I have my records to back me up and the American Kennel Club will support me.



That being said, I will NOT be selling my vintage sports car on eBay using PayPal. One has to use common sense regarding big ticket items!



Shopping on eBay is similar to a raffle â€" can you afford to be out that money if you don’t get the item? I’m cheap when it comes to raffles â€" usually about $5 is my limit â€" mainly to support the organization as most of the time there isn’t anything I want or need; however, if there is something I really want at a raffle, I’ll buy $25 worth of tickets or a “stretchâ€�. If my number is picked, great! If not, the organization still benefits which is the bottom line for me!



As for violins and destroying them â€" I hope the person who did this ends up in “elevator hellâ€� where the canned music coming thru is a 4th grader just starting out practicing violin lessons!



Vikki

Houston, TX


Re: drum roll please :)

Vikki Youngmeyer
 

I have used PayPal for years, mainly for small purchase items. I had a Janome 350e embroidery machine before buying the 12000, and I paid online to various embroidery design companies for their designs using Paypal. I was able to download the designs immediately,  the transactions were under $50 and took less than 15 minutes from start to finish. One time I bought a CD of dog designs from an eBay vendor when eBay quit allowing downloads, and one of the designs wouldn’t load up. I emailed the seller and she sent me the file as an email attachment the next day.

 

I am show secretary for a number of dog shows and many times people pay their entry fees to me via PayPal. I have yet to have a problem with these types of transactions. If something were to go wrong with a transaction I would withhold their permit to show on the day of the show until they made it right with cash. I’ve had more problem with bounced checks than I’ve ever had with PayPal. If things ever got “hinky” after a show, I have my records to back me up and the American Kennel Club will support me.

 

That being said, I will NOT be selling my vintage sports car on eBay using PayPal. One has to use common sense regarding big ticket items!

 

Shopping on eBay is similar to a raffle – can you afford to be out that money if you don’t get the item?  I’m cheap when it comes to raffles – usually about $5 is my limit – mainly to support the organization as most of the time there isn’t anything I want or need; however, if there is something I really want at a raffle, I’ll buy $25 worth of tickets or a “stretch”.  If my number is picked, great! If not, the organization still benefits which is the bottom line for me!

 

As for violins and destroying them – I hope the person who did this ends up in “elevator hell” where the canned music coming thru is a 4th grader just starting out practicing violin lessons!

 

Vikki

Houston, TX


Re: drum roll please :)

meowmie <meowmie@...>
 

I agree with Jim - I had a bad experience with paypal - out both the item and the money because the other person lied.
Any important items - don't do paypal. Even months later they will take back funds - all because the buyer tells them a story.
 
Jen

From: Jim_Stutsman
To: janome12000@...
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 1:14 PM
Subject: [janome12000] Re: drum roll please :)

 
Wow, two posts in a row mentioning PayPal - however this one is on topic, and not an ad. When someone pays for a purchase using a PayPal account the funds are available to the recipient immediately. If they use eCheck then PayPal will not allow access to the funds until the check has cleared, typically 3-4 business days.

I'm not sure what the "$500.00 a month" refers to. Are you selling the machine on a monthly payment plan? I really don't think that's a good idea. I also would not recommend PayPal for large purposes, even though I've been using it for years. They can be very arbitrary about things. Three times last year they froze $4 payments to me because of "possible fraud." In every case the order was legitimate and not fraudulent, so I honored the sale. In every case PayPal decided to refund the money and I did not get paid. Even worse is what happened to a young lady who sold a violin on eBay with PayPal (owned by eBay) payment. The buyer decided he didn't want it. She asked him to ship it back, and offered to pay for it. He contacted PayPal to cancel the sale. They said they could only do that if he provided proof it was damaged, so he smashed it to bits and sent them the picture. The seller is now out both her violin and $2,000. It used to be a good service, but lately PayPal is becoming more and more hostile to sellers.

--- In janome12000@..., "seamgood" wrote:
>
> Well Ladies and Gentlemen,
> I believe I sold my 11000 SE...soooo, I will call my dealer tomorrow...he is closed today!! and order my 12000. Hopefully, he has it in stock. At least he did two weeks ago, just waiting for me. I am just praying that the lady buying my machine goes through with it. I spoke with her on the phone and she sounds lovely and sincere. She is supposed to be sending the bank check out today and when it clears, I will ship the machine.
> Does anyone know how pay pal works with a large sale? I'm only used to doing small money sales and don't know if pay pal will only release the aloted $500.00 a month till I collect the whole amount. The gal buying asked me to do pay pal, but I told her I wasn't sure how it worked with a larger sum of money. Any guidance? Should I just stick to the bank check and wait for clearance?
> Oh, I know I'll have some questions once my machine gets here, but in the meantime, I'm reading everything I can in the files and all the digests. What a wonderful group this is! Thank you so much!
> Gloria in MA
>




Re: Free - Magazines

vicki chrobak
 

I think that's great Jim. However, perhaps we could have some place to post items for sale @ our group's yahoo site?

--
Vicki Jo


Re: 12000 shank

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

All of Janome's embroidery machines are high shank (including the 12000) to allow for clearance over the hoop. So too are the 6600 and 7700 models with Acufeed. The snap-on foot holder for the 12000 is different from all others because of the need to attach 9mm feet. And this is not a stupid question, as it gets asked so often on every Janome list!

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "suerevere@..." <srevere@...> wrote:

Okay, I admit this is a stupid question but I'm confused about what you'd consider the shank -- low or high? It was mentioned in a previous post and I couldn't find it.... sorry (redfaced).