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Re: 15000 V1 versus V2 -

Pam Davison
 

Read last 2 paragraphs in Red below.  He is comparing the new Brother to the Janome.

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Jim:  Would Janome have actually rolled out another version of the 15K and not have something that would differentiate the two models and not just the color? If there is no difference, why would they have not just updated the V1 since it appears it can be done with the added V2 features? Just wondering if there isn't something more coming......
Got your crystal ball shined up?

Julia
NY-MC12000 

After gazing into the crystal ball, Jim says don't buy a lotto ticket that has more than 12 sevens and this:
Developing a new machine takes a fair bit of time. Before machine embroidery became possible on a home machine with the Janome Memory Craft 8000 it was 4-5 years between new models. Prior to the Memory Craft 10000 the software in Janome machines was permanently built in and unchangeable. Fixing a software bug meant replacing the motherboard of the machine. When the 10000 came out it had the ability to update its software. This was good, since the first couple of versions were buggy and they could fix the machines easily with an update.

About halfway through the life of the 10000 Janome came out with a major revision to the software in the machine. They released a model 10001 with that software and offered existing 10000 owners the chance to update their machine for a modest price. Some unscrupulous dealers actually convinced their 10000 customers to trade their machines in for the 10001 on the grounds it was a "better" machine. In fact these customers traded their machine for one that was identical except for the software. The only advantage they gained was a pre-installed update and new hardware identical to the old hardware.

This process repeated with the 11000, which became the 11000SE. In that case there was a minor hardware update that allowed jump stitch cutting, and there was a fee for that as well as the software. It extended the life of the 11000 perhaps a bit longer than Janome would have liked.

Janome is always trying to keep up with Brother, which is a much larger company with far more employees and profits from dozens of product lines other than sewing machines. They crank out new top of line models nearly every year. By updating software Janome can produce "new" models faster, and they give existing owners the opportunity to refresh. It is my opinion that the 15000 was in development even as the 11000SE was brought to market. It wasn't ready in time to replace the 11000SE, so they brought out a subset of features as the 12000. This had the unfortunate side effect of angering a lot of people who bought the 12000 with the idea that it was going to be "top line" for at least 4 years, not 2.

Now Brother has produced yet another technical marvel to rival the 15000. It has a lot of flashy features, but does not sew as well as the 15000. We've found this to be the case with just about every Brother model. To counter the new model Janome is releasing the 15000 V2. Same insides, different color on the front, and new software.

Sewing machines aren't like cars, which get updated every year with minor differences. Janome's R&D department is always trying to improve their product, and they need time to test and design new features, as well as to tool up the factories to produce them. That's why there is a 4-5 year cycle.





 



Re: Sorry

Marie Calkins
 

You will find it at Janome.com on October 3, 2014 or at your dealer now.


15000 V1 versus V2 -

juliadlf.ny@...
 

Jim:  Would Janome have actually rolled out another version of the 15K and not have something that would differentiate the two models and not just the color? If there is no difference, why would they have not just updated the V1 since it appears it can be done with the added V2 features? Just wondering if there isn't something more coming......
Got your crystal ball shined up?

Julia
NY-MC12000 

After gazing into the crystal ball, Jim says don't buy a lotto ticket that has more than 12 sevens and this:
Developing a new machine takes a fair bit of time. Before machine embroidery became possible on a home machine with the Janome Memory Craft 8000 it was 4-5 years between new models. Prior to the Memory Craft 10000 the software in Janome machines was permanently built in and unchangeable. Fixing a software bug meant replacing the motherboard of the machine. When the 10000 came out it had the ability to update its software. This was good, since the first couple of versions were buggy and they could fix the machines easily with an update.

About halfway through the life of the 10000 Janome came out with a major revision to the software in the machine. They released a model 10001 with that software and offered existing 10000 owners the chance to update their machine for a modest price. Some unscrupulous dealers actually convinced their 10000 customers to trade their machines in for the 10001 on the grounds it was a "better" machine. In fact these customers traded their machine for one that was identical except for the software. The only advantage they gained was a pre-installed update and new hardware identical to the old hardware.

This process repeated with the 11000, which became the 11000SE. In that case there was a minor hardware update that allowed jump stitch cutting, and there was a fee for that as well as the software. It extended the life of the 11000 perhaps a bit longer than Janome would have liked.

Janome is always trying to keep up with Brother, which is a much larger company with far more employees and profits from dozens of product lines other than sewing machines. They crank out new top of line models nearly every year. By updating software Janome can produce "new" models faster, and they give existing owners the opportunity to refresh. It is my opinion that the 15000 was in development even as the 11000SE was brought to market. It wasn't ready in time to replace the 11000SE, so they brought out a subset of features as the 12000. This had the unfortunate side effect of angering a lot of people who bought the 12000 with the idea that it was going to be "top line" for at least 4 years, not 2.

Now Brother has produced yet another technical marvel to rival the 15000. It has a lot of flashy features, but does not sew as well as the 15000. We've found this to be the case with just about every Brother model. To counter the new model Janome is releasing the 15000 V2. Same insides, different color on the front, and new software.

Sewing machines aren't like cars, which get updated every year with minor differences. Janome's R&D department is always trying to improve their product, and they need time to test and design new features, as well as to tool up the factories to produce them. That's why there is a 4-5 year cycle.





 


Sorry

Colleen
 

I know this has been posted a thousand times but where do I find to get the new update v2 .Thanks in advance. CB Sent from my iPad


See message 11137. Also try this search.


Re: Changing machine speed

Kay Davis
 

Thanks, Jim, that fixed it!  I would never have thought it would have an effect on machine speed.  Kay

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:53 PM, jim.stutsman@... [janome12000] <janome12000@...> wrote:
 

Tune off quiet mode in the Set screen.



Re: 15000 update

Judy Jackson <judy.j282@...>
 

Will this update be a free one??..........well one can hope! Judy

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We've been told that it will be free. In fact the only cost involved in making a V1 15000 into a V2 would be to purchase the AcuDesign app for $50. It is included with the 15000 V2.


Re: Pillow Photos

vicki chrobak
 

You humble me Martie.  Thank you so much for your very kind comments.  These are my 1st 3 digitized designs & learned more with each one but still  have volumes left to learn, to say the least!!! Now if I can only remember how I did that, as gardening season interrupted the learning curve.
Thank you again,
Vicki Jo

On 9/23/2014 11:22 AM, mjdutro@... [janome12000] wrote:

Vicki Jo, You are a talented artist!!  Your digitizing skills are tremendous.  Wonderful job on the pillows.  I enjoyed looking at them.  Martie in CA


Re: Pillow Photos

mjdutro@...
 

Vicki Jo, You are a talented artist!!  Your digitizing skills are tremendous.  Wonderful job on the pillows.  I enjoyed looking at them.  Martie in CA


Re: 15000 update

gahall92 <no_reply@...>
 

I'm a little confused about the version 2 update everyone is talking about. When I go to the Janome site, the only update I see is v1.10 - is this the same as what you're referring to as version 2? Sorry for my confusion! ~GayleH

Paddling against a sea of confusion, Jim says:
Janome has decided that the Horizon 15000, being just about a year old, is in need of an update. To that end they have re-christened it the Horizon Memory Craft 15000 Version 2. This is something they've done for the past dozen years or so, starting with the Memory Craft 10000 that was morphed into the Memory Craft 10001. It's a way to get a "new" model without actually releasing a new model. In the case of the 15000, the insides and most of the outsides are completely unchanged. Only a bit of color on the case is changed. Internally it gets new software. Next month an update will be released to allow owners of the "old" 15000 to update, getting all the new features. This update will be downloadable and user-installable, and it will likely be clearly labeled as version 2.0.

The confusion comes from the fact that there is currently a version 1.10 available. This wasn't supposed to be released as early as it was, as Janome had hoped to sandbag the RE18 hoop for Christmas. Nobody told the web folks in Tokyo, so the update was put out even before the first RE18 hoop shipped. Version 1.10 exists only to enable the use of that hoop on the 15000. It is not the version 2 that everyone is talking about. If you don't have the RE18 hoop you can simply ignore that update and wait for the version 2 update. It is not necessary to perform all machine updates in succession, only the most recent. Each update is a complete replacement of all software inside the machine.


MC 15000 Owners Manual

Tony Coley
 

Can someone please post the link to download the 15K owners manual? Thanks and please pardon the redundancy.
Tony in still warm Alabama


Puzzled by the echo, Jim says:
Go to the Janome website (www.janome.com) and click the "Machines" tab, then "Embroidery" and finally "MC15000". Click the "Specifications" button at the bottom of the page. You'll find a link to the manual in the top right corner.


Re: Changing machine speed

Jim Stutsman
 

Tune off quiet mode in the Set screen.


Changing machine speed

Kay Davis
 

I was stitching out a design from a USB stick this evening on my new 12000.  I couldn't change the stitching speed.   It was set on 400 spm and I wanted to increase it.  The plus and minus signs in the embroidery setting area for changing the speed were grayed out.  I stopped the machine, selected a built in design to see if that made a difference, but had the same results.  I also tried the slider bar on the front of the machine.  Again, no change in speed.  Any idea what I'm doing wrong?  TIA, Kay





Re: 15000 update

Marie Calkins
 

Even the lights updated. The only difference is the Aqua colored decoration just below the screen on the version 1. The color on version 2 is purple.


Re: 15000 update

Brenda Kay
 

Does anyone know if Janome is going to be at the Iowa quilt show next week ? If so I wonder if they will have the 15000 #2 for demo and for sale ???Thanks Much
 
Brenda  W
 
 

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From: qsnveducator.marie@... [janome12000] <janome12000@...>
To: janome12000
Sent: Mon, Sep 22, 2014 1:33 pm
Subject: Re: [janome12000] Re: 15000 update

 
The new update to the 15000 will bring you to version 2.0. It is available at dealers now with the version 2 machines shipping as I type. The update will be available on the global site on Oct. 3. Some of the new features are:
10 new Decorative Stitches 
A new opening screen
Change of default machine accent lighting color to purple and the addition of
    Graded Coloring and Rainbow to the accent color options
Maximum stitch width limit for Variable Zig Zag
Corner Layout Function for embroidery designs – easily duplicate one
corner design into four with corner placement
Single Color Sewing Mode – Turn multi-color embroidery designs into
Monochrome designs at the touch of a button (eliminate the color stops)
Addition of Lock Mode to Warning Screen – now easily switch from the
warning screen to lock mode in one step (when you forget to lock the     machine to thread the needle, on the warning pop-up screen is a lock button)
Ability to read DST (Tajima) format files

Hope that answers the questions!
Marie


Re: 15000 update

sewbad54 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Anne,  I am a member of a Janome club supported by Janome, and a message was sent to all club members notifying us that the version 2  15000 will be demonstrated at Alexandra Palace. If you are thinking of going I would contact Janome UK to confirm.


Re: 15000 update

ceilsews <no_reply@...>
 

Do you think all of these new features will show up on V1 machines?  I've never had a machine that updated before.
Thanks.
Ceil


Jim's no charge opinion:
All of those features are implemented in software, with the possible exception of the lights. V1 users should get all the rest in the update.

---In janome12000@..., wrote :

The new update to the 15000 will bring you to version 2.0. It is available at dealers now with the version 2 machines shipping as I type. The update will be available on the global site on Oct. 3. Some of the new features are:
10 new Decorative Stitches 
A new opening screen
Change of default machine accent lighting color to purple and the addition of
    Graded Coloring and Rainbow to the accent color options
Maximum stitch width limit for Variable Zig Zag
Corner Layout Function for embroidery designs – easily duplicate one
corner design into four with corner placement
Single Color Sewing Mode – Turn multi-color embroidery designs into
Monochrome designs at the touch of a button (eliminate the color stops)
Addition of Lock Mode to Warning Screen – now easily switch from the
warning screen to lock mode in one step (when you forget to lock the     machine to thread the needle, on the warning pop-up screen is a lock button)
Ability to read DST (Tajima) format files

Hope that answers the questions!
Marie


Re: 15000 update

Anne Parker <annegparker@...>
 

Where did you hear the V2 would be at Alexandra Palace?

I am thinking of making the trip there, but would like to be sure that the V2 will definitely be there to see, before purchasing my rail ticket and entrance ticket for the 9th October date.

Anne
​ in Stubbington, UK.

www.sewingtales.wordpress.com

With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.  "Desiderata" Max Ehrmann

On 21 September 2014 16:55, sewbad54 <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

Is it version 2  you have updated your 15000 to?  If so, are you allowed to tell us what  the new features are. In the Uk the version 2 15000 will be for sale at the Alexandra palace  show in October, but no date as yet for current 15000 owners to update.



Re: 15000 update

Marie Calkins
 

The new update to the 15000 will bring you to version 2.0. It is available at dealers now with the version 2 machines shipping as I type. The update will be available on the global site on Oct. 3. Some of the new features are:
10 new Decorative Stitches 
A new opening screen
Change of default machine accent lighting color to purple and the addition of
    Graded Coloring and Rainbow to the accent color options
Maximum stitch width limit for Variable Zig Zag
Corner Layout Function for embroidery designs – easily duplicate one
corner design into four with corner placement
Single Color Sewing Mode – Turn multi-color embroidery designs into
Monochrome designs at the touch of a button (eliminate the color stops)
Addition of Lock Mode to Warning Screen – now easily switch from the
warning screen to lock mode in one step (when you forget to lock the     machine to thread the needle, on the warning pop-up screen is a lock button)
Ability to read DST (Tajima) format files

Hope that answers the questions!
Marie


Re: 15000 update

gore.deborah@...
 

Version 2 will be released in October 2014.


Re: Pillow Photos

vicki chrobak
 

Thank you CB.  I like to have fun & LOTS of color as you can tell.  Guess I watch too many Korean historical dramas :-) .
Vicki Jo

On 9/21/2014 11:01 PM, Colleen Bulman newfiddler@... [janome12000] wrote:


Hi Those pillows are very lively well done. CB

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