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Re: Leaked report: 'Give the $2m back' expert says after Manukau harbour preferred over Northland's Marsden Point port ... ("NZ Herald"):

Steve W
 

Yes Ian that may well be the case, however what suits business i.e. the status quo may not suit the others such as council(Port Owner still?) and real estate developers who might be wanting to build lots of expensive waterfront apartments. Common sense business requirements and other agendas may not be on the same page. Councils do seem to come up with some silly stuff at times much to the detriment of ratepayers.

As you may recall, in 2003 the then Transport Minister's right hand man told me that he'd met with Maersk who had informed the government that their preferred option, was for all of New Zealand's import/export freight to be shipped via Marsden Point. No further details were given to me unfortunately. The current government seem to want to go ahead with Marsden Point for political reasons.

So there is pull in the 4 directions I've covered in the previous 2 stanzas, Marsden Point already exists (would it need to be expanded?) and has container cranes. My preference would be to finish the upgrade of the NAL and build the short railway line to the port and let the market decide.

Steve W

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From: nz-rail-geography@groups.io <nz-rail-geography@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jenner, Ian
Sent: Tuesday, 7 July 2020 11:26 AM
To: nz-rail-geography@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nz-rail-geography] Leaked report: 'Give the $2m back' expert says after Manukau harbour preferred over Northland's Marsden Point port ... ("NZ Herald"):

I think, generally, Auckland business has made its mind up that the port should stay where it is. These reports are being commissioned by other bodies with their own agendas & values. It is totally nonsensical to suggest the port should be at Manukau, for many reasons, not least the impossibility of getting decent sized ships through the heads.The rest of NZ needs to understand that Auckland has its own dynamic & people need to accept that. It is economical stupidity to suggest moving the port anywhere at present or in the forseeable future.
Ian Jenner






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Re: Mystery Photo Tuesday - John Wallers

Steve W
 

Yes - good work with photo too Robert! What concerned me was that there was
a guards van behind the engine.

I was assuming that the train was heading up the grade to Newmarket and this
might be the Helensville train #53 which was in my day dragged up to
Newmarket and I believe was too long to use the triangle and had engines at
the rear which took the train on the way the EMUs now do this.

My problem with this is that train #53 was an afternoon train, this appears
to be first line, perhaps a long excursion heading north in which care I
would be surprised if the Ka took it any further than Newmarket.

I have no info on the photographer, so therefore it was fun to work it out.
I guess what we need to resolve is what this train is

Steve W

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From: nz-rail-geography@groups.io <nz-rail-geography@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Bruce
Sent: Tuesday, 7 July 2020 10:34 AM
To: nz-rail-geography@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nz-rail-geography] Mystery Photo Tuesday - John Wallers

Hi,
I tend to agree it is Sarawia St as well.
Cheers,
Rev.

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From: nz-rail-geography@groups.io <nz-rail-geography@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Stewart Hall via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 3:52 AM
To: nz-rail-geography@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nz-rail-geography] Mystery Photo Tuesday - John Wallers

Crossing Sarawia St on the climb to Newmarket.

Think 953 may be on its way to Te Rapa with a race train.

The track in the foreground is the stub of the line through the original
Parnell Tunnel.

It was used as a backshunt to propel rolling stock into the former NZR
workshops which the NZPO took over after the NZR shops moved to Otahuhu in
the late 1920s.

I remember talk a couple of years ago of making the original tunnel a bike
path.

Has any thing happened on that front?


Stewart



On 6/07/2020, at 8:04 AM, Steve W <stevewatts2018@...> wrote:

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Re: Mystery Photo Tuesday - John Wallers

Robert M
 
Edited

Done a little tinkering with it.
Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve W
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 2:04 AM
To: nz-rail-geography@groups.io
Subject: [nz-rail-geography] Mystery Photo Tuesday - John Wallers

Greetings all - I have scanned a slide from the John Wallers collection but
have no info. You will need to work on the loco and the location please



Steve W


Re: Leaked report: 'Give the $2m back' expert says after Manukau harbour preferred over Northland's Marsden Point port ... ("NZ Herald"):

Jenner, Ian
 

I think, generally, Auckland business has made its mind up that the port should stay where it is. These reports are being commissioned by other bodies with their own agendas & values. It is totally nonsensical to suggest the port should be at Manukau, for many reasons, not least the impossibility of getting decent sized ships through the heads.The rest of NZ needs to understand that Auckland has its own dynamic & people need to accept that. It is economical stupidity to suggest moving the port anywhere at present or in the forseeable future.
Ian Jenner


Re: Leaked report: 'Give the $2m back' expert says after Manukau harbour preferred over Northland's Marsden Point port ... ("NZ Herald"):

Steve W
 

Apparently this was one of 5 options released today however must admit I
haven't read the full article but my mind is still boggling at the
suggestion and I'm hoping my mind will get back in some sort of order by the
end of the day!



Steve W



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Sent: Tuesday, 7 July 2020 8:45 AM
To: NewZealandLocomotives@groups.io
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Subject: Leaked report: 'Give the $2m back' expert says after Manukau
harbour preferred over Northland's Marsden Point port ... ("NZ Herald"):



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Re: Mystery Photo Tuesday - John Wallers

Bruce
 

Hi,
I tend to agree it is Sarawia St as well.
Cheers,
Rev.

-----Original Message-----
From: nz-rail-geography@groups.io <nz-rail-geography@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Stewart Hall via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 3:52 AM
To: nz-rail-geography@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nz-rail-geography] Mystery Photo Tuesday - John Wallers

Crossing Sarawia St on the climb to Newmarket.

Think 953 may be on its way to Te Rapa with a race train.

The track in the foreground is the stub of the line through the original
Parnell Tunnel.

It was used as a backshunt to propel rolling stock into the former NZR
workshops which the NZPO took over after the NZR shops moved to Otahuhu in
the late 1920s.

I remember talk a couple of years ago of making the original tunnel a bike
path.

Has any thing happened on that front?


Stewart



On 6/07/2020, at 8:04 AM, Steve W <stevewatts2018@...> wrote:

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Re: Leaked report: 'Give the $2m back' expert says after Manukau harbour preferred over Northland's Marsden Point port ... ("NZ Herald"):

Ross Old
 

With all this carry on Akl does not need a port of any kind. WHY cant Aucklanders make up their minds Rail is busy upgrading the Northland line thsat would be a waste. Another group has most likely got another report Under way.

Auckland disease is active.

It is needed just get on with it.


Ross Old

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Leaked report: 'Give the $2m back' expert says after Manukau harbour preferred over Northland's Marsden Point port ... ("NZ Herald"):

Cran Julian
 


Re: Dunedin Railways debacle

Steve W
 

Really - thanks for that Robert, I sent this letter so long ago - about a
week to 10 days ago I think. I hope it brought a different perspective to
the debate which from recent stories appears to have gotten a little
personal.

The virus seems to have gotten out of hand here. The problem being Victoria
- unfortunately a lot of them have fled over the border into New South Wales
fearing a lockdown, thus spreading the disease doing stupid things it should
be added. The state borders will be locked down today a noon, unfortunately
a week late so only time will tell. The problem being the proposed
TransTasman bubble which I think will be an enormous thing to administer on
a state by state basis.

I believe that cruise ships could be running inside December if they set
their mind to it, buffets will be history and crews would need to be
isolated for a month. I hope that owners and stakeholders are working behind
the scenes. I believe that with social distancing I can now see that cruise
ships could return to Australasian waters and contribute so much to the
economies of NZ/Oz and pacific islands.

My understanding was that Dunedin Railways was on the brink before the
outbreak of Covid-19

Steve W

-----Original Message-----
From: nz-rail-geography@groups.io <nz-rail-geography@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Robert M
Sent: Tuesday, 7 July 2020 6:34 AM
To: nz-rail-geography@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nz-rail-geography] Mystery Photo Tuesday - John Wallers

Steve, your letter to the editor of the ODT re Dunedin Railways was
published yesterday.
Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve W
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 2:04 AM
To: nz-rail-geography@groups.io
Subject: [nz-rail-geography] Mystery Photo Tuesday - John Wallers

Greetings all - I have scanned a slide from the John Wallers collection but
have no info. You will need to work on the loco and the location please



Steve W










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Re: Mystery Photo Tuesday - John Wallers

Peter Ross
 

Loco is Ka953.

Peter

On 7/07/2020 2:04 am, Steve W wrote:
Greetings all - I have scanned a slide from the John Wallers collection but
have no info. You will need to work on the loco and the location please


Steve W


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Re: Mystery Photo Tuesday - John Wallers

Robert M
 

Possibly 9.5.1964 with Ka953 on D31 Te Rapa race special?
Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve W
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 2:04 AM
To: nz-rail-geography@groups.io
Subject: [nz-rail-geography] Mystery Photo Tuesday - John Wallers

Greetings all - I have scanned a slide from the John Wallers collection but
have no info. You will need to work on the loco and the location please



Steve W


Re: Mystery Photo Tuesday - John Wallers

Robert M
 

Steve, your letter to the editor of the ODT re Dunedin Railways was published yesterday.
Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve W
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 2:04 AM
To: nz-rail-geography@groups.io
Subject: [nz-rail-geography] Mystery Photo Tuesday - John Wallers

Greetings all - I have scanned a slide from the John Wallers collection but
have no info. You will need to work on the loco and the location please



Steve W


Re: Mystery Photo Tuesday - John Wallers

Anthony Hinton
 

Ka953?Sent from Samsung tablet.

-------- Original message --------From: Steve W <stevewatts2018@...> Date: 06/07/2020 15:04 (GMT+00:00) To: nz-rail-geography@groups.io Subject: [nz-rail-geography] Mystery Photo Tuesday - John Wallers Greetings all - I have scanned a slide from the John Wallers collection buthave no info. You will need to work on the loco and the location please Steve W


Re: Mystery Photo Tuesday - John Wallers

Stewart Hall
 

Crossing Sarawia St on the climb to Newmarket.

Think 953 may be on its way to Te Rapa with a race train.

The track in the foreground is the stub of the line through the original Parnell Tunnel.

It was used as a backshunt to propel rolling stock into the former NZR workshops which the NZPO took over after the NZR shops moved to Otahuhu in the late 1920s.

I remember talk a couple of years ago of making the original tunnel a bike path.

Has any thing happened on that front?


Stewart

On 6/07/2020, at 8:04 AM, Steve W <stevewatts2018@...> wrote:

<Mystery Photo Tuesday July 7 2020.jpg>


Mystery Photo Tuesday - John Wallers

Steve W
 
Edited

Greetings all - I have scanned a slide from the John Wallers collection but
have no info. You will need to work on the loco and the location please



Steve W


Return of the TranzAlpine

Steve W
 

Greetings all - nice article which includes a lovely video - Steve W




<https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/back-your-backyard/122038511/mayor-welcomes-
first-passengers-on-resumed-tranzalpine-train-service>
https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/back-your-backyard/122038511/mayor-welcomes-f
irst-passengers-on-resumed-tranzalpine-train-service or



https://tinyurl.com/y6u7mkcv


Re: Monday contribution - It seems like only yesterday again

Steve W
 

Yes - lovely photos, appreciated seeing the photos of the EOs as I made a trip to Wellington with part of the mission being to take photos of them running the SE set but was about a fortnight late, apparently they were unreliable. I think they were supposed to last another year. It was a little compensation to at least see the EO I think 45 saved at Ferrymead a couple of years ago

Steve W

-----Original Message-----
From: nz-rail-geography@groups.io <nz-rail-geography@groups.io> On Behalf Of R.H. MIDDLETON via groups.io
Sent: Monday, 6 July 2020 6:03 PM
To: nz-rail-geography@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nz-rail-geography] Monday contribution - It seems like only yesterday again

Thanks for those David, they certainly bring back memories.

Ross






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Re: Monday contribution - It seems like only yesterday again

R.H. MIDDLETON
 

Thanks for those David, they certainly bring back memories.

Ross


Monday contribution - It seems like only yesterday again

David Parsons
 
Edited

Good morning everybody.

Another round of suburban memories, this time from the Wellington suburban network.

Enjoy a few scenes from the Kapiti Line that are already history.

regards

David Parsons


Re: Provincial Growth Fund cash for Kawakawa vintage railway extensions and improvements ... ("Northern Advocate" Whangarei):

R.H. MIDDLETON
 

That's good to see after all this time, finally getting the cycle path off the rails and running trains again. Good to see that "Gabriel" will get a new boiler as well.

Ross