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Re: WINDURO 2019

Greg Mejlaender
 

Thanks Plamen for the advance notice on Mon - that this Sat "might" be a good Winduro Day!
And thanks Emmett for the screen shot of the Sat wind forecast.
As of overnight Tue into Wed... I still don't see any good info from NOAA or the mm5 maps, regarding "very good wind" for Sat.

But I see the iWindsurf free forecast on the "7 day detailed forecast" is showing decent wind for Sat. The direction is SW all day, and the wind speed from about 10am - 5pm is about 10-20 mph wind. If "that" really happened, it'd be fine. But will THAT happen?

My question is - Can all you who have experience using this iW 7 day forecast chime in with it's reliability??
Specifically, all you who use this 7 day forecast - what % of time it is correct? 
I've never used it... so would appreciate any data. Greg:)


From: nw-windtalk@groups.io <nw-windtalk@groups.io> on behalf of Emmett S. <penclickprods@...>
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 10:46 AM
To: nw-windtalk@groups.io <nw-windtalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nw-windtalk] WINDURO 2019
 
Definitely too early to tell... forecast for Rainier Beach.

Re: WINDURO 2019

Michal Prussak
 

I doubt this Saturday will work well. Or I should say, well enough for the 20+ winds. Here is the iWindsurf Pro forecast:

Sat, Sep 14 2019

Another frontal boundary approaches and moves into the area by late in the day. SW winds fade in the morning then pick up again as the front approaches. Clouds and showers increase during the late afternoon making for gusty winds.

Bottom Line: Purdy SSW low teens. Lake Washington and Golden Gardens SW faint low/mid-teens late. Jetty Island and Marrowstone S mid-teens. Boundary Bay and Bellingham S/SSE mid/upper teens. Squamish sees afternoon SW solid low/mid 20s.



NOAA is showing 14 mph on the big pond.


I need to decide today what to commit to on the weekend. Based on this forecast, it won't be the Winduro.



On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 3:01 AM Greg Mejlaender <gregnw44@...> wrote:
Thanks Plamen for the advance notice on Mon - that this Sat "might" be a good Winduro Day!
And thanks Emmett for the screen shot of the Sat wind forecast.
As of overnight Tue into Wed... I still don't see any good info from NOAA or the mm5 maps, regarding "very good wind" for Sat.

But I see the iWindsurf free forecast on the "7 day detailed forecast" is showing decent wind for Sat. The direction is SW all day, and the wind speed from about 10am - 5pm is about 10-20 mph wind. If "that" really happened, it'd be fine. But will THAT happen?

My question is - Can all you who have experience using this iW 7 day forecast chime in with it's reliability??
Specifically, all you who use this 7 day forecast - what % of time it is correct? 
I've never used it... so would appreciate any data. Greg:)


From: nw-windtalk@groups.io <nw-windtalk@groups.io> on behalf of Emmett S. <penclickprods@...>
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 10:46 AM
To: nw-windtalk@groups.io <nw-windtalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nw-windtalk] WINDURO 2019
 
Definitely too early to tell... forecast for Rainier Beach.

Re: Just uploaded 2 Superlight vs Megacat videos. 😀

Michal Prussak
 

Jonathan - 

Do you have the raw measurements recorded? I can help you calculate confidence intervals so we can see if the result is statistically significant 🙂

Michal


On Sep 11, 2019, at 2:17 AM, Greg Mejlaender <gregnw44@...> wrote:

Great energy, ambition and enthusiasm Jonathan... for you effort and time to make these videos!!

And yes, your results between a Div 1 board (80's Superlight 1) and a Raceboard (90's Mega Cat) is exactly correct.
In light wind (I'd say wind from 1-12mph) a Div 1 board is faster than a Raceboard. And a Div 2 board is even faster in those light winds.
And in marginal wind (like 10-18 mph) all 3 board designs will be pretty equal.
But in higher wind (like 15-25 mph) the raceboard will be faster and much easier to sail, compared to the other 2 designs.
Note - I could be off by a slight amount regarding precise wind speed... but it's pretty close, and there are many MANY variables!
Anyway, these facts are well known by people all around the world doing longboard racing in the late 80's through the mid 90's.

However from a practical standpoint, I've always promoted Raceboard class boards (Equipe, Mega Cat, Lightening, Bamba, etc.) - as the most all round, high performance, easy to sail, biggest wind range - windsurf board design!!
Raceboard designs matured when windsurfing matured - in the early to mid 90's. These boards were very high quality - light, stiff, strong, durable enough, but expensive. And they had great components - excellent mast-tracks, mastbases, mast extension, footstraps, retractable daggerboards, very good fins, etc. Equal to most anything today.

But Div 1 boards (Superlight 1 and many others) and Div 2 boards (Crit and many others)... were primarily designed and built all through the 80's. They had excellent shapes for gliding "fast" through the water in light wind. But on average, they weren't as good as 90's boards, cause the sport was so new! Meaning the board shapes were very efficient in light wind, but they didn't have construction methods nailed down very well... and components like mast-tracks, foot-straps, daggerboards, fins were not developed anywhere near as good as 90's boards. And the boards that had very rounded bottoms were much tougher to learn to sail on, compared to the flat bottomed raceboards.
Raceboard class boards have planning bottoms - flat-ish bottoms with full hard rails. And these are easier to sail on, than rounded bottom boards. But they're not as fast in very light wind.

Anyway, of all the MANY windsurf brands back then... Mistral was always the best, they had the best quality and came up with more features which would become mainstream in the 90's.
So yes, a mid 80's Mistral Superlight 1, is a very good board.... and with a good sailor and light wind... that board would win many local light wind races.
But raceboards are more all round and versatile... because they're easier to sail... and they're MUCH better in planning conditions... and they come with excellent components that someone these days would never need to upgrade.

That's why a raceboard is so easy, and versatile, and effective in the windy Winduro. They're almost as fast in very light wind as Div 1 and Div 2 boards... but easier to sail. And better and easier in high wind. And again, for most people it's the high quality modern components that raceboards have that makes them so user friendly. Where the 80's boards mostly have broken of missing components... or take "work" to keep them in good shape.
Greg:)



From: nw-windtalk@groups.io <nw-windtalk@groups.io> on behalf of Jonathan R. via Groups.Io <jonathanreinke@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 11:25 PM
To: NW Windtalk email <nw-windtalk@groups.io>
Subject: [nw-windtalk] Just uploaded 2 Superlight vs Megacat videos. 😀
 
I uploaded a light wind showdown video.


& a measurments / deep thoughts video.


My test was done with a 11.7m and me being 165 lbs.  There was almost no waves.  Any one of these variables could change how well eather of these boards do.

In short the Superlight is about .5 mph faster from 2-15 mph.  I was very surprised that the 100% stock superlight was faster at 14.36 mph.  After a bunch of compairing and thinking I figured out why the Superlight is faster at that speed.  

I was predicting the Megacat would start being faster at about 12 mph.  Now I am thinking it will be equal at about 18-20 mph then the Megacat will pull ahead.  In chop the Megacat should start to be faster in a lower board speed.

I think the Megacat is more universal and still great in light wind.  The way the Superlight moves through the water is rewarding and different.  For a bump in speed for light wind and a smooth flowing, quiet board, it is definitely worth owning one.  For now I am planning on doing quick / afforable mods to the Superlight.  Maybe in spring I will go all out?  😄

See ya on the water.  🙂

Jonathan

Re: Just uploaded 2 Superlight vs Megacat videos. 😀

Jim Gallant
 

Interesting analysis Jonathan. I think you'll find that first generation Superlights can be very capable in higher winds with a few modifications. See pics of one of my Superlights below with 3 footstraps, a powerbox fin box and a racing daggerboard. I used mine in last year's Winduro and will again this year if I can attend. Regarding bow scoop, I've sailed in big swell plus high winds, and I've never pearled the bow. There's just so much buoyancy that it's not going under. I would argue that Superlights are more "fun" to sail than race boards. They just feel more slippery and respond to gusts more immediately. The curved rails let them turn so easily. Also, I suspect if you used smaller more user-friendly sails like a 6 or 7 meter sail that a mere mortal might be able to handle, the speed difference between the two boards would be even greater. It's really a magic design. I've owned race boards but I'll probably always on at least one Superlight. I have a stock one with the retractable skeg in addition to my tricked out one. The retractable skeg lets you sail in about 3 inches of water, which can be very cool for adventure sailing. I once sailed across Hood Canal and sailed around a sand bar near Bridgehaven in water so shallow that I had to sink a rail to stop the retractable skeg from grounding. See the satellite view below with the yellow sailing path. Must have been only 2" deep in some places. Pics below show mine just after painting it a la the Kozmic clothing line from New Zealand in the 80s:

https://www.google.com/search?q=kozmic+clothing&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjelt-Z-cjkAhXX6Z4KHchuBXUQ_AUIEygC&biw=2210&bih=1359





Superlight One For Sale

Rick Martin
 

Just in time for the Winduro.

I am selling my Superlight One since I don't think I will ever use it again.

It comes in a board bag, and has all original fittings adapted to Chinook.

It has the huge racing daggerboard, tuttle fin box, and 50cm carbon tuttle fin.

Old but pristine.  Never any damage.  I bought it from Pepi (he had the tuttle box installed).  I used it in a couple of the City League races when we still held them at Maggie.  Also, when I was between a Devil 1 and Devil 2 years ago, I sailed it with a 7.5 at Rimrock, making steep runs down to the dam and back.  I think Pepi used it in one or two of the early Winduros.

This is the original Superlight with the curved bottom.  At Long Beach years ago I watched a bunch of old dudes on longboards sailing in 5-10 mph winds with 7.5 sails.  The Superlight One was untouchable for displacement-mode speed.  Yes, it does get up on a plane, if you like to plane an aircraft carrier.

I have no idea how much $$ to ask for it.  We would have to figure out how to get it from Tri-Cities to you.  Since my Sprinter has a long center aisle, it will fit inside.  Most vehicles have to carry it on top, but it does have a bag.

Anybody interested?

Rick

Slingshot foils

Mike
 

Just a heads up. I have posted two Slingshot front foils for sale on Craigslist. H5 and H3.

Re: WINDURO 2019

Brian Clark
 

I agree. Does not seem like a winduro worthy forecast yet.

Brian

On Sep 11, 2019, at 7:09 AM, Michal Prussak <michal@...> wrote:

I doubt this Saturday will work well. Or I should say, well enough for the 20+ winds. Here is the iWindsurf Pro forecast:

Sat, Sep 14 2019

Another frontal boundary approaches and moves into the area by late in the day. SW winds fade in the morning then pick up again as the front approaches. Clouds and showers increase during the late afternoon making for gusty winds.

Bottom Line: Purdy SSW low teens. Lake Washington and Golden Gardens SW faint low/mid-teens late. Jetty Island and Marrowstone S mid-teens. Boundary Bay and Bellingham S/SSE mid/upper teens. Squamish sees afternoon SW solid low/mid 20s.



NOAA is showing 14 mph on the big pond.


I need to decide today what to commit to on the weekend. Based on this forecast, it won't be the Winduro.



On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 3:01 AM Greg Mejlaender <gregnw44@...> wrote:
Thanks Plamen for the advance notice on Mon - that this Sat "might" be a good Winduro Day!
And thanks Emmett for the screen shot of the Sat wind forecast.
As of overnight Tue into Wed... I still don't see any good info from NOAA or the mm5 maps, regarding "very good wind" for Sat.

But I see the iWindsurf free forecast on the "7 day detailed forecast" is showing decent wind for Sat. The direction is SW all day, and the wind speed from about 10am - 5pm is about 10-20 mph wind. If "that" really happened, it'd be fine. But will THAT happen?

My question is - Can all you who have experience using this iW 7 day forecast chime in with it's reliability??
Specifically, all you who use this 7 day forecast - what % of time it is correct? 
I've never used it... so would appreciate any data. Greg:)


From: nw-windtalk@groups.io <nw-windtalk@groups.io> on behalf of Emmett S. <penclickprods@...>
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 10:46 AM
To: nw-windtalk@groups.io <nw-windtalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nw-windtalk] WINDURO 2019
 
Definitely too early to tell... forecast for Rainier Beach.

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Re: WINDURO 2019

Greg Mejlaender
 

Yeah I also agree.

Just now with the Wed 9am update the NOAA forecast for Sat gets a bit more specific saying S wind 10-20 becoming 5-15. Of course this will change, it's only Wed morning.
And usually (not always, but usually) a NOAA forecast of 10-20 means, a solid 5-15 on the Lake.

Michal, where do you get a specific NOAA forecast, as you said for the Big Pond. I mean I know they don't list "Big Pond" but where do you get specific NOAA location forecasts like that?
Greg -


From: nw-windtalk@groups.io <nw-windtalk@groups.io> on behalf of Brian Clark <clarkbanse@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:51 AM
To: nw-windtalk@groups.io <nw-windtalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nw-windtalk] WINDURO 2019
 
I agree. Does not seem like a winduro worthy forecast yet.

Brian

On Sep 11, 2019, at 7:09 AM, Michal Prussak <michal@...> wrote:

I doubt this Saturday will work well. Or I should say, well enough for the 20+ winds. Here is the iWindsurf Pro forecast:

Sat, Sep 14 2019

Another frontal boundary approaches and moves into the area by late in the day. SW winds fade in the morning then pick up again as the front approaches. Clouds and showers increase during the late afternoon making for gusty winds.

Bottom Line: Purdy SSW low teens. Lake Washington and Golden Gardens SW faint low/mid-teens late. Jetty Island and Marrowstone S mid-teens. Boundary Bay and Bellingham S/SSE mid/upper teens. Squamish sees afternoon SW solid low/mid 20s.



NOAA is showing 14 mph on the big pond.


I need to decide today what to commit to on the weekend. Based on this forecast, it won't be the Winduro.



On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 3:01 AM Greg Mejlaender <gregnw44@...> wrote:
Thanks Plamen for the advance notice on Mon - that this Sat "might" be a good Winduro Day!
And thanks Emmett for the screen shot of the Sat wind forecast.
As of overnight Tue into Wed... I still don't see any good info from NOAA or the mm5 maps, regarding "very good wind" for Sat.

But I see the iWindsurf free forecast on the "7 day detailed forecast" is showing decent wind for Sat. The direction is SW all day, and the wind speed from about 10am - 5pm is about 10-20 mph wind. If "that" really happened, it'd be fine. But will THAT happen?

My question is - Can all you who have experience using this iW 7 day forecast chime in with it's reliability??
Specifically, all you who use this 7 day forecast - what % of time it is correct? 
I've never used it... so would appreciate any data. Greg:)


From: nw-windtalk@groups.io <nw-windtalk@groups.io> on behalf of Emmett S. <penclickprods@...>
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 10:46 AM
To: nw-windtalk@groups.io <nw-windtalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nw-windtalk] WINDURO 2019
 
Definitely too early to tell... forecast for Rainier Beach.

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Re: WINDURO 2019

Emmett S.
 

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 03:01 AM, Greg Mejlaender wrote:
Can all you who have experience using this iW 7 day forecast chime in with it's reliability??
I've checked windfinder religiously for a couple months now to determine its reliability.... and it is not very. The basic forecast (using NOAA's GFS model, shown in the posted pictures) is never very accurate past 3 days anyway. The best way I've found to utilize this specific forecast site is to compare the GFS model to their physical "Superforecast" model. As they state on the site: If they agree with each other, it's typically a good forecast.





You can see below that in just 2 days, the forecast of the GFS model has changed a lot.

Re: WINDURO 2019

Emmett S.
 

I'm still new so I don't have much experience with different weather models yet. I saw Mike B uses iWindsurf which I haven't checked out yet.

Is there a more-or-less general consensus on which forecast is the most reliable?

Re: WINDURO 2019

Michael Bryan
 

Hi Emmett. I use iWindsurf but also I use weather underground and the mm5 maps .
happy sailing.

Re: WINDURO 2019

Greg Mejlaender
 

Good work presenting all that info Emmett... and yeah you're learning a lot, very quickly?

Regarding different wind forecast sites and which might be better for the Puget Sound area?

I "think" - iWindsurf - wind finder - weather flow - might all be owned by the same group. Or... at least a few of them are connected in some way.
I "think" they do this, simply for marketing ie different demographics or interest groups tend to log into certain sites. It's all about advertising, how can they get is to click on a certain site, more often.

Anyway if you compare the data they present, I think its practically identical. I haven't actually done this for a long time... but if someone does, please let us know (or correct me).
Greg :)


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


-------- Original message --------
From: "Emmett S." <penclickprods@...>
Date: 9/11/19 10:11 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: nw-windtalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nw-windtalk] WINDURO 2019

I'm still new so I don't have much experience with different weather models yet. I saw Mike B uses iWindsurf which I haven't checked out yet.

Is there a more-or-less general consensus on which forecast is the most reliable?

Re: WINDURO 2019

Emmett S.
 

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 12:11 PM, Greg Mejlaender wrote:
very quickly?
I have no clue what to benchmark that against, but I'm excited and having a great time!

Thanks for the input. I haven't looked into the mm5 model at all, I'll give it a look!

Re: WINDURO 2019

Brian Clark
 

Ventusky is another forecast app I use. great graphics and easy to use. slider bar for date and time of day.
for local reports on Lake Wa I use the windfinder app on iphone. it has both forecast and actual for SSP and 520 and I90 bridge, plus many others. Also you can set up a free alert for non premium sites. it will ping you if wind gets above your threshold in the right direction.
you can select which forecast model you want it to use.

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 12:11 PM Greg Mejlaender <gregnw44@...> wrote:
Good work presenting all that info Emmett... and yeah you're learning a lot, very quickly?

Regarding different wind forecast sites and which might be better for the Puget Sound area?

I "think" - iWindsurf - wind finder - weather flow - might all be owned by the same group. Or... at least a few of them are connected in some way.
I "think" they do this, simply for marketing ie different demographics or interest groups tend to log into certain sites. It's all about advertising, how can they get is to click on a certain site, more often.

Anyway if you compare the data they present, I think its practically identical. I haven't actually done this for a long time... but if someone does, please let us know (or correct me).
Greg :)


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


-------- Original message --------
From: "Emmett S." <penclickprods@...>
Date: 9/11/19 10:11 AM (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: [nw-windtalk] WINDURO 2019

I'm still new so I don't have much experience with different weather models yet. I saw Mike B uses iWindsurf which I haven't checked out yet.

Is there a more-or-less general consensus on which forecast is the most reliable?

Weather Forecasting Workshop @ Urban Surf

Royce
 

This is marketed to the kite community but wind is wind and I suspect they wouldn't kick windsurfers out :)  It runs $55.  I have signed up.

NW Wind Clinic @  Urban Surf 
retail shop
      Join us next week : Thursday Sept 19th, 7:30pm 

   Urban Surf is hosting a theory based course on how to forecast and read the wind for some of the best Kiteboarding beaches around the Puget Sound and NW region.  With a focus on Fall/ Winter riding locations, reading forecast models, and safety.  This is a great opportunity for those considering trying to ride in the coming moths to dial in your wind knowledge skills and meet others looking to hit the water as well this season! Beer and apps included. Reserve your spot to day with this link to NW Wind Clinic

Re: Weather Forecasting Workshop @ Urban Surf

Emmett S.
 

Is this being held at their retail store location in Seattle?

Re: Weather Forecasting Workshop @ Urban Surf

Greg Mejlaender
 

Wow $55... "really" !?!?!?

We need to start charging a lot more for "Counseling and Advice" here at windtalk, lol

I'll meet people at Happy Hour of their choosing... and buy them beer and snacks... and tell them about all this stuff here in the NW... for $30!!
Greg:)


From: nw-windtalk@groups.io <nw-windtalk@groups.io> on behalf of Royce <royce.cassel@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 3:55 PM
To: nw-windtalk@groups.io <nw-windtalk@groups.io>
Subject: [nw-windtalk] Weather Forecasting Workshop @ Urban Surf
 
This is marketed to the kite community but wind is wind and I suspect they wouldn't kick windsurfers out :)  It runs $55.  I have signed up.

NW Wind Clinic @  Urban Surf 
retail shop
      Join us next week : Thursday Sept 19th, 7:30pm 

   Urban Surf is hosting a theory based course on how to forecast and read the wind for some of the best Kiteboarding beaches around the Puget Sound and NW region.  With a focus on Fall/ Winter riding locations, reading forecast models, and safety.  This is a great opportunity for those considering trying to ride in the coming moths to dial in your wind knowledge skills and meet others looking to hit the water as well this season! Beer and apps included. Reserve your spot to day with this link to NW Wind Clinic

Re: WINDURO 2019

Greg Mejlaender
 

4:30 Wed afternoon update.
Well, possible Winduro Sat is starting to look decent to me!!

NOAA update at 3pm today... and mm5 maps updated this morning, all look like Sat from 8am till 5pm, both show very good and consistent wind all day. 
S to SW wind 10-20 knots all day for the south half of the lake. Mostly 15 knots, everywhere for much of Lake Washington, all day... and S to SW all day... no CZ problems. 
"Yes, this forecast will change each day"
HOWEVER, if the forecast "looks like this" Fri mid-day - "WHO IS IN" ???

Because a mostly solid 15 knots, for much of the Lake, much of the day... 
Means that longboards and hybrids with the right size sail will be planing!
Formula boards will be planing!
Windfoils will be flying!

World records might not be set... but lots of sailors from fit intermediates to advanced "should be successful". 
Also note, the water will be a lot flatter with 10-20, mostly 15 all day... compared to the big CHOP we would get with 15-25, mostly 20 all day.

I would do it this Sat - if we have this forecast on Fri afternoon. 
If we get a good group or 8 or more, then "let's go"!!
Please post if you're in, by Fri mid-day!!

Greg:)


From: nw-windtalk@groups.io <nw-windtalk@groups.io> on behalf of plamen69petkov via Groups.Io <plamen69petkov@...>
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 8:06 AM
To: nw-windtalk@groups.io <nw-windtalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nw-windtalk] WINDURO 2019
 
According to iW Saturday might be THE DAY

Thanks
Plamen

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 9:03 PM, Dan Taylor
<studio360@...> wrote:
20 or more would nice, by end of September and I'd try to join in.
Dan

Re: WINDURO 2019

Adam K
 

I’m interested, depending on the forecast. This would be my first attempt.

I can do really well upwind and downwind when on foil on my Wizard 105/84, but struggle to make upwind progress slogging. Mostly worried about the bridges.. how have the other foilers coped going under the bridges?

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 4:55 PM Greg Mejlaender <gregnw44@...> wrote:
4:30 Wed afternoon update.
Well, possible Winduro Sat is starting to look decent to me!!

NOAA update at 3pm today... and mm5 maps updated this morning, all look like Sat from 8am till 5pm, both show very good and consistent wind all day. 
S to SW wind 10-20 knots all day for the south half of the lake. Mostly 15 knots, everywhere for much of Lake Washington, all day... and S to SW all day... no CZ problems. 
"Yes, this forecast will change each day"
HOWEVER, if the forecast "looks like this" Fri mid-day - "WHO IS IN" ???

Because a mostly solid 15 knots, for much of the Lake, much of the day... 
Means that longboards and hybrids with the right size sail will be planing!
Formula boards will be planing!
Windfoils will be flying!

World records might not be set... but lots of sailors from fit intermediates to advanced "should be successful". 
Also note, the water will be a lot flatter with 10-20, mostly 15 all day... compared to the big CHOP we would get with 15-25, mostly 20 all day.

I would do it this Sat - if we have this forecast on Fri afternoon. 
If we get a good group or 8 or more, then "let's go"!!
Please post if you're in, by Fri mid-day!!

Greg:)


From: nw-windtalk@groups.io <nw-windtalk@groups.io> on behalf of plamen69petkov via Groups.Io <plamen69petkov=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 8:06 AM
To: nw-windtalk@groups.io <nw-windtalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nw-windtalk] WINDURO 2019
 
According to iW Saturday might be THE DAY

Thanks
Plamen

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 9:03 PM, Dan Taylor
<studio360@...> wrote:
20 or more would nice, by end of September and I'd try to join in.
Dan

Re: WINDURO 2019

Greg Mejlaender
 

Adam, you and all foilers would do very well with the 1st bridge crossing, cause you're slogging on a broad reach or downwind at that point. Same as a longboard, we'd all be steady and slow. I say this having been near by formula and foil here before.

The next bridge crossing you're going upwind.
So my honest prediction for you and others like you - you'll probably be up on the wing, foiling up to very near the bridge opening. But then when you're right close, the wind will get gusty, up and down and more varied direction... so I bet you'd be slogging upwind, under the floating bridge opening. Once on the other side, I bet you'd soon be flying again cause you're out in strong breezes.
All the foilers from last year, and other experienced foilers will chime in with more info!
Greg :)


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-------- Original message --------
From: Adam K <akollgaard@...>
Date: 9/11/19 5:03 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: nw-windtalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nw-windtalk] WINDURO 2019

I’m interested, depending on the forecast. This would be my first attempt.

I can do really well upwind and downwind when on foil on my Wizard 105/84, but struggle to make upwind progress slogging. Mostly worried about the bridges.. how have the other foilers coped going under the bridges?

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 4:55 PM Greg Mejlaender <gregnw44@...> wrote:
4:30 Wed afternoon update.
Well, possible Winduro Sat is starting to look decent to me!!

NOAA update at 3pm today... and mm5 maps updated this morning, all look like Sat from 8am till 5pm, both show very good and consistent wind all day. 
S to SW wind 10-20 knots all day for the south half of the lake. Mostly 15 knots, everywhere for much of Lake Washington, all day... and S to SW all day... no CZ problems. 
"Yes, this forecast will change each day"
HOWEVER, if the forecast "looks like this" Fri mid-day - "WHO IS IN" ???

Because a mostly solid 15 knots, for much of the Lake, much of the day... 
Means that longboards and hybrids with the right size sail will be planing!
Formula boards will be planing!
Windfoils will be flying!

World records might not be set... but lots of sailors from fit intermediates to advanced "should be successful". 
Also note, the water will be a lot flatter with 10-20, mostly 15 all day... compared to the big CHOP we would get with 15-25, mostly 20 all day.

I would do it this Sat - if we have this forecast on Fri afternoon. 
If we get a good group or 8 or more, then "let's go"!!
Please post if you're in, by Fri mid-day!!

Greg:)


From: nw-windtalk@groups.io <nw-windtalk@groups.io> on behalf of plamen69petkov via Groups.Io <plamen69petkov=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 8:06 AM
To: nw-windtalk@groups.io <nw-windtalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nw-windtalk] WINDURO 2019
 
According to iW Saturday might be THE DAY

Thanks
Plamen

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 9:03 PM, Dan Taylor
<studio360@...> wrote:
20 or more would nice, by end of September and I'd try to join in.
Dan