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Hmm.. Anyone had issues restarting Alpha snaps today?

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I did a download yesterday, and found that it locked the machine up after the rising tones to load it. I rebooted the installed stable and that took an age to come up, one assumes it had to force closure. This morning another alpha update and the same thing happened again. Now of course once it has worked once, you get no further issues so I'm thinking it might be something to do with writing to a file which of course cannot be logged if it cannot write to it. This is Windows 7, but I do not know apart from one very useful change, of anything that might appear to cause this for me, as updates seem to have been fine for weeks till now.
Brian

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No such problems on last couple alphas on Win 10 64 bit 1903.

On Thu, 17 Oct 2019, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I did a download yesterday, and found that it locked the machine up after the rising tones to load it. I rebooted the installed stable and that took an age to come up, one assumes it had to force closure. This morning another alpha update and the same thing happened again. Now of course once it has worked once, you get no further issues so I'm thinking it might be something to do with writing to a file which of course cannot be logged if it cannot write to it. This is Windows 7, but I do not know apart from one very useful change, of anything that might appear to cause this for me, as updates seem to have been fine for weeks till now.
Brian

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I'm suspicious that it might be something to do with the new dev version of the sounds add on. I'll need to deactivate it and wait for some more updates to the alpha to tell. It cannot be proved simply by restarting with add ons off as by definition, when its locked you cannot go in and turn stuff off!

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Luke Davis" <luke@...>
To: "NVDA Dev list on groups.io" <nvda-devel@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda-devel] Hmm.. Anyone had issues restarting Alpha snaps today?


No such problems on last couple alphas on Win 10 64 bit 1903.

On Thu, 17 Oct 2019, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I did a download yesterday, and found that it locked the machine up after the rising tones to load it. I rebooted the installed stable and that took an age to come up, one assumes it had to force closure. This morning another alpha update and the same thing happened again. Now of course once it has worked once, you get no further issues so I'm thinking it might be something to do with writing to a file which of course cannot be logged if it cannot write to it. This is Windows 7, but I do not know apart from one very useful change, of anything that might appear to cause this for me, as updates seem to have been fine for weeks till now.
Brian

zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz
 

I cannot reproduce this myself, too.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-devel@groups.io <nvda-devel@groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 12:36 PM
To: NVDA Dev list on groups.io <nvda-devel@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda-devel] Hmm.. Anyone had issues restarting Alpha snaps
today?

No such problems on last couple alphas on Win 10 64 bit 1903.

On Thu, 17 Oct 2019, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I did a download yesterday, and found that it locked the machine up
after the rising tones to load it. I rebooted the installed stable and
that took an age to come up, one assumes it had to force closure. This
morning another alpha update and the same thing happened again. Now of
course once it has worked once, you get no further issues so I'm
thinking it might be something to do with writing to a file which of
course cannot be logged if it cannot write to it. This is Windows 7,
but I do not know apart from one very useful change, of anything that
might appear to cause this for me, as updates seem to have been fine for
weeks till now.
Brian

Brian's Mail list account
 

That is the issue it seems totally random but only affects alpha.
I blame Brexit here in the UK for it all :-)
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "zvonimir stanecic, 9a5dsz" <zvonimirek222@...>
To: <nvda-devel@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda-devel] Hmm.. Anyone had issues restarting Alpha snaps today?


I cannot reproduce this myself, too.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-devel@groups.io <nvda-devel@groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 12:36 PM
To: NVDA Dev list on groups.io <nvda-devel@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda-devel] Hmm.. Anyone had issues restarting Alpha snaps
today?

No such problems on last couple alphas on Win 10 64 bit 1903.

On Thu, 17 Oct 2019, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I did a download yesterday, and found that it locked the machine up
after the rising tones to load it. I rebooted the installed stable and
that took an age to come up, one assumes it had to force closure. This
morning another alpha update and the same thing happened again. Now of
course once it has worked once, you get no further issues so I'm
thinking it might be something to do with writing to a file which of
course cannot be logged if it cannot write to it. This is Windows 7,
but I do not know apart from one very useful change, of anything that
might appear to cause this for me, as updates seem to have been fine for
weeks till now.
Brian




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OK, managed to get the crash on a normal usage in an application, in this case the webbie podcatcher which I use a lot with no issues on the stable version of nvda.
Here is what I tend to get before the logging itself gives up.

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:13:30.943) - winInputHook (6124):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (10:13:30.970) - MainThread (4732):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Inside Health 11 of 18']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:13:33.799) - winInputHook (6124):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
IO - speech.speak (10:13:34.042) - MainThread (4732):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Frame1 list']
IO - speech.speak (10:13:34.059) - MainThread (4732):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Getting podcast, please wait. 1 of 1']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:13:38.086) - winInputHook (6124):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:13:38.790) - winInputHook (6124):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:13:41.046) - winInputHook (6124):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:13:41.422) - winInputHook (6124):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:13:42.263) - winInputHook (6124):
Input: kb(desktop):escape
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:13:43.063) - winInputHook (6124):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:13:43.463) - winInputHook (6124):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:13:44.415) - winInputHook (6124):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:13:44.823) - winInputHook (6124):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (10:13:47.535) - winInputHook (6124):
Input: kb(desktop):alt+tab
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 1660 (dwm.exe) (10:13:47.550) - Dummy-3 (4140):
Thread 4596, build\x86_64\remote\injection.cpp, inproc_winEventCallback, 66:
SetWindowsHookEx with WH_GETMESSAGE failed, GetLastError returned 5

DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 1660 (dwm.exe) (10:13:47.551) - Dummy-3 (4140):
Thread 4596, build\x86_64\remote\injection.cpp, inproc_winEventCallback, 69:
SetWindowsHookEx with WH_CALLWNDPROC failed, GetLastError returned 5

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (10:13:47.691) - watchdog (3116):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 215, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 532, in main
File "wx\core.pyc", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyc", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyc", line 502, in run
File "queueHandler.pyc", line 83, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 46, in _queueEventCallback

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (10:14:02.692) - watchdog (3116):
Core frozen in stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 215, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 532, in main
File "wx\core.pyc", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyc", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyc", line 502, in run
File "queueHandler.pyc", line 83, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 46, in _queueEventCallback

It is then stuffed, to give a technical term..
Brian



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Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda-devel] Hmm.. Anyone had issues restarting Alpha snaps today?


That is the issue it seems totally random but only affects alpha.
I blame Brexit here in the UK for it all :-)
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "zvonimir stanecic, 9a5dsz" <zvonimirek222@...>
To: <nvda-devel@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda-devel] Hmm.. Anyone had issues restarting Alpha snaps today?


I cannot reproduce this myself, too.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-devel@groups.io <nvda-devel@groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 12:36 PM
To: NVDA Dev list on groups.io <nvda-devel@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda-devel] Hmm.. Anyone had issues restarting Alpha snaps
today?

No such problems on last couple alphas on Win 10 64 bit 1903.

On Thu, 17 Oct 2019, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I did a download yesterday, and found that it locked the machine up
after the rising tones to load it. I rebooted the installed stable and
that took an age to come up, one assumes it had to force closure. This
morning another alpha update and the same thing happened again. Now of
course once it has worked once, you get no further issues so I'm
thinking it might be something to do with writing to a file which of
course cannot be logged if it cannot write to it. This is Windows 7,
but I do not know apart from one very useful change, of anything that
might appear to cause this for me, as updates seem to have been fine for
weeks till now.
Brian