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Re: Add Braille support for emojis

Gabriele Battaglia <iz4apu@...>
 

Hi Corentin.
I think it would be a great idea.

I use Braille every day with NVDA and it's a shame to see all those 0x character on my Display.
I could help to find Braille strings that rapresent the most common emojes.
Gabriele.

Re: Add Braille support for emojis

Alberto Buffolino
 

Corentin Bacqué-cazenave via Groups.Io, il 22/04/2019 17.27, ha scritto:
I think it would be interesting to offer support for emojis in Braille.
Alberto:
Hi Corentin,
I agree. And created an issue about it, some time ago:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/9213
Unfortunately, I have a good knowledge of Python, but no experience about NVDA Braille management, so I cannot provide any pull request.
Alberto

Treshold version of NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

What is the purpose of this new category of NVDA versions?

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team

Re: Treshold version of NVDA

 

hello Rui Fontes
This is the submission information of appveyor
appVayor: Build a threshold snapshot for the speechRefactor / Python3 transition work.
thank

Re: Treshold version of NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Thanks!

I will keep an eye in this version...

Rui Fontes

Às 11:30 de 26/04/2019, dingpengyu escreveu:

hello Rui Fontes
This is the submission information of appveyor
appVayor: Build a threshold snapshot for the speechRefactor / Python3 transition work.
thank

Tracking keypress events on an add on

Marlon Brandão de Sousa
 

Hello,
As the message subject says, I need to track keypress events on an ad on. Basically I need a function to be called whenever any key is pressed and take some decisions depending on what key it is. How can I achieve these in NVDA?

Since we are on this topic, is there any centralized place where I can find all events that mvda is capable of producing?

Obrigado,
Marlon

How to view the debug logs, and get exceptions in NVDAHelper

derek riemer
 

I'm trying to get exceptions in NVDAHelper, for some error I caused in one of the MSHTML vbuff backend methods. 
I see this coder in remoteLoader/loader.cpp.
#ifndef NDEBUG
    Beep(880,100);
    #endif
I also see a logger method that does some cryptic things I don't understand. Does anyone here know how I can set the log level, and/or view the logs? How can I get a debugger attached to IE, so I can figure out what horrible thing I did that is crashing IE? I tried getting windbg to attach to iexplore but it won't do anything for some reason.
Short of that, can I generate a minidump somehow, or a full dump, when IE breaks? It doesn't seem to crash the whole browser, but just the page.
Chbeers
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Over the Threshold...

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So this new snapshot branch then. I noticed that as it was none o of the current add ons are enabled. So where angels feared to tread go I and changed them all to tested version of 2019.2.0.
This then brings them all into functioning, and several then do an update. Note the folder I installed the portable version of Threshold into was an old test snap with older add ons in it you understand. So basically now it seems the only add ons that were updated were Resource monitor, Focus Highlight and add on updater of course.
I have as I say hand amended the manifests of a lot of other wanes just to see what happens next. So is there a lay persons description of what this branch is being used for?
Thanks.
Brian

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Re: Over the Threshold...

 

Hi,
Project Threshold will be the home for first (intentionally) backwards
incompatible changes to NVDA, namely speech refactor and Python 3
transition. The former is being worked on and is going through some edits
here and there, and I'm working on details of the latter alongside studying
for college finals.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Subject: [nvda-devel] Over the Threshold...

So this new snapshot branch then. I noticed that as it was none o of the
current add ons are enabled. So where angels feared to tread go I and
changed them all to tested version of 2019.2.0.
This then brings them all into functioning, and several then do an update.
Note the folder I installed the portable version of Threshold into was an
old test snap with older add ons in it you understand. So basically now it
seems the only add ons that were updated were Resource monitor, Focus
Highlight and add on updater of course.
I have as I say hand amended the manifests of a lot of other wanes just to
see what happens next. So is there a lay persons description of what this
branch is being used for?
Thanks.
Brian

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Re: Over the Threshold...

Bill Dengler
 

Speech refactor (#7599).

Bill

On May 5, 2019, at 15:46, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

So this new snapshot branch then. I noticed that as it was none o of the current add ons are enabled. So where angels feared to tread go I and changed them all to tested version of 2019.2.0.
This then brings them all into functioning, and several then do an update. Note the folder I installed the portable version of Threshold into was an old test snap with older add ons in it you understand. So basically now it seems the only add ons that were updated were Resource monitor, Focus Highlight and add on updater of course.
I have as I say hand amended the manifests of a lot of other wanes just to see what happens next. So is there a lay persons description of what this branch is being used for?
Thanks.
Brian

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Re: Over the Threshold...

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Thanks for that. Yes I suspected as much. I was actually impressed how many of the add ons still operate. Obviously the simple ones will, but the others still seem to. Is there an article on the audio changes, and how it might affect different flavours of windows and synth and other sound related add ons?
Brian

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Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2019 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda-devel] Over the Threshold...


Hi,
Project Threshold will be the home for first (intentionally) backwards
incompatible changes to NVDA, namely speech refactor and Python 3
transition. The former is being worked on and is going through some edits
here and there, and I'm working on details of the latter alongside studying
for college finals.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Subject: [nvda-devel] Over the Threshold...

So this new snapshot branch then. I noticed that as it was none o of the
current add ons are enabled. So where angels feared to tread go I and
changed them all to tested version of 2019.2.0.
This then brings them all into functioning, and several then do an update.
Note the folder I installed the portable version of Threshold into was an
old test snap with older add ons in it you understand. So basically now it
seems the only add ons that were updated were Resource monitor, Focus
Highlight and add on updater of course.
I have as I say hand amended the manifests of a lot of other wanes just to
see what happens next. So is there a lay persons description of what this
branch is being used for?
Thanks.
Brian

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Re: Over the Threshold...

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OK thanks I'll go and have a gander at that.
Brian

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To: <nvda-devel@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2019 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda-devel] Over the Threshold...


Speech refactor (#7599).

Bill
On May 5, 2019, at 15:46, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

So this new snapshot branch then. I noticed that as it was none o of the current add ons are enabled. So where angels feared to tread go I and changed them all to tested version of 2019.2.0.
This then brings them all into functioning, and several then do an update. Note the folder I installed the portable version of Threshold into was an old test snap with older add ons in it you understand. So basically now it seems the only add ons that were updated were Resource monitor, Focus Highlight and add on updater of course.
I have as I say hand amended the manifests of a lot of other wanes just to see what happens next. So is there a lay persons description of what this branch is being used for?
Thanks.
Brian

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Re: How to view the debug logs, and get exceptions in NVDAHelper

Reef Turner
 

In addition to building NVDA with `nvdaHelperDebugFlags` (I'd suggest with debugCRT and RTC), you can also specify `nvdaHelperLogLevel=0` for maximum logging verbosity.

These args are defined in the `sconstruct` file.


On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 at 23:16, derek riemer <driemer.riemer@...> wrote:
I'm trying to get exceptions in NVDAHelper, for some error I caused in one of the MSHTML vbuff backend methods. 
I see this coder in remoteLoader/loader.cpp.
#ifndef NDEBUG
    Beep(880,100);
    #endif
I also see a logger method that does some cryptic things I don't understand. Does anyone here know how I can set the log level, and/or view the logs? How can I get a debugger attached to IE, so I can figure out what horrible thing I did that is crashing IE? I tried getting windbg to attach to iexplore but it won't do anything for some reason.
Short of that, can I generate a minidump somehow, or a full dump, when IE breaks? It doesn't seem to crash the whole browser, but just the page.
Chbeers
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Re: How to view the debug logs, and get exceptions in NVDAHelper

derek riemer
 

Where do debug logs go? Does it end up in NVDA.log, or elsewhere?


On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 7:18 AM Reef Turner <reef@...> wrote:
In addition to building NVDA with `nvdaHelperDebugFlags` (I'd suggest with debugCRT and RTC), you can also specify `nvdaHelperLogLevel=0` for maximum logging verbosity.

These args are defined in the `sconstruct` file.

On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 at 23:16, derek riemer <driemer.riemer@...> wrote:
I'm trying to get exceptions in NVDAHelper, for some error I caused in one of the MSHTML vbuff backend methods. 
I see this coder in remoteLoader/loader.cpp.
#ifndef NDEBUG
    Beep(880,100);
    #endif
I also see a logger method that does some cryptic things I don't understand. Does anyone here know how I can set the log level, and/or view the logs? How can I get a debugger attached to IE, so I can figure out what horrible thing I did that is crashing IE? I tried getting windbg to attach to iexplore but it won't do anything for some reason.
Short of that, can I generate a minidump somehow, or a full dump, when IE breaks? It doesn't seem to crash the whole browser, but just the page.
Chbeers
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changing mainfests of nvda addons

Zachary Morris
 

Hello,

How to you change the minimum required nvda version and last tested nvda version? I am using one of the threshold snapshots and I was just wondering on how to do this.


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Re: changing mainfests of nvda addons

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!
1 - Unzip the addon, or open it with 7ZIP;
2 - Change those fields in manifest.ini;
3 - Compact again or allow 7ZIP to update the ZIP file...

Rui Fontes


Às 14:35 de 06/05/2019, Zachary Morris escreveu:

Hello,
How to you change the minimum required nvda version and last tested nvda version? I am using one of the threshold snapshots and I was just wondering on how to do this.

Re: changing mainfests of nvda addons

Zachary Morris
 

Hello,

Thanks rui. But what if those fields are not there in the manifests file as mentioned?

On 5/6/2019 3:48 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!
1 - Unzip the addon, or open it with 7ZIP;
2 - Change those fields in manifest.ini;
3 - Compact again or allow 7ZIP to update the ZIP file...

Rui Fontes


Às 14:35 de 06/05/2019, Zachary Morris escreveu:
Hello,

How to you change the minimum required nvda version and last tested nvda version? I am using one of the threshold snapshots and I was just wondering on how to do this.

Re: changing mainfests of nvda addons

 

Hi,
There is an under the surface problem that is masked by manifest edits: exactly what add-ons are affected? Because if you are using Threshold snapshots, you are effectively saying, "I'm willing to test backwards incompatible changes once they are ready". Hence, I think it would be best to contact authors of affected add-ons instead of editing manifests.
Cheers,
joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-devel@groups.io <nvda-devel@groups.io> On Behalf Of Zachary Morris
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 2:08 PM
To: nvda-devel@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-devel] changing mainfests of nvda addons

Hello,

Thanks rui. But what if those fields are not there in the manifests file as mentioned?


On 5/6/2019 3:48 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!
1 - Unzip the addon, or open it with 7ZIP;
2 - Change those fields in manifest.ini;
3 - Compact again or allow 7ZIP to update the ZIP file...

Rui Fontes


Às 14:35 de 06/05/2019, Zachary Morris escreveu:
Hello,

How to you change the minimum required nvda version and last tested
nvda version? I am using one of the threshold snapshots and I was
just wondering on how to do this.


Re: changing mainfests of nvda addons

Zachary Morris
 

Hello,

Ok, thanks Joseph.

On 5/6/2019 4:15 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
There is an under the surface problem that is masked by manifest edits: exactly what add-ons are affected? Because if you are using Threshold snapshots, you are effectively saying, "I'm willing to test backwards incompatible changes once they are ready". Hence, I think it would be best to contact authors of affected add-ons instead of editing manifests.
Cheers,
joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-devel@groups.io <nvda-devel@groups.io> On Behalf Of Zachary Morris
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 2:08 PM
To: nvda-devel@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-devel] changing mainfests of nvda addons

Hello,

Thanks rui. But what if those fields are not there in the manifests file as mentioned?


On 5/6/2019 3:48 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!
1 - Unzip the addon, or open it with 7ZIP;
2 - Change those fields in manifest.ini;
3 - Compact again or allow 7ZIP to update the ZIP file...

Rui Fontes


Às 14:35 de 06/05/2019, Zachary Morris escreveu:
Hello,

How to you change the minimum required nvda version and last tested
nvda version? I am using one of the threshold snapshots and I was
just wondering on how to do this.



Re: changing mainfests of nvda addons

Brian's Mail list account
 

Or if like me you just want to see what happens when you allow existing add ons to be accepted, note this can be dangerous, but I'm sure you know that, Then open up, say a portable version of nvda threshold with add ons installed. go to the user config and add ons folder and have a look at the manifest file of, say Josephs add onupdater. Look at the last few lines which have the earliest and latest versions of nvda listed, there is also another line that says whether only stable releases are looked for and in some min windows version as well. The whole lot can be cut and pasted into a text file and simply cut and pasted onto the manifest file of any other add on in the list in that folder.


Brian.


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To: <nvda-devel@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda-devel] changing mainfests of nvda addons


Hello!
1 - Unzip the addon, or open it with 7ZIP;
2 - Change those fields in manifest.ini;
3 - Compact again or allow 7ZIP to update the ZIP file...

Rui Fontes


Às 14:35 de 06/05/2019, Zachary Morris escreveu:
Hello,

How to you change the minimum required nvda version and last tested nvda version? I am using one of the threshold snapshots and I was just wondering on how to do this.