I can both agree and disagree, respectfully, with Arthur. It’s entirely true that one can set up HA for cluster state and roll clustered storage by hand. I’ve done it myself. But I disagree about free. My time is worth too much (well, worth too much to me), and someone else will come after me — there’s something to be said for Not Maintained By Me.
And frankly if one has less linux-fu, then arguably ESXI — or even a “cloud provider” (dirty phrase) is a better choice than Proxmox these days. The “web gui” functionality is the least useful part of Proxmox for me.
Free is only free if one ignores entire swathes of hidden costs. If it were truly worth rolling my own it would be worth competing against the guys who can productize it; if what I want, however, is something they don’t make, then it is not a fair comparison and my only choice is to roll my own.
Not to dismiss Mr Corliss’ perspective; a solution is only a solution if it fits one’s use case.
Regards,
/J
On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 12:00 PM Arthur Corliss <
acorliss@...> wrote:
It's KVM, but it's not libvirsh-compatible KVM. Not a bad product, but they
built their own management stack. I've used it and have to support it,
but at this stage of the game, there's nothing they're doing that
you can't roll on your own for free. The only value-add I see is that the
web GUI makes KVM management more approachable for those with less linux-fu
than others.
On Fri, 19 Nov 2021, Jeremy Austin wrote:
> Hi JP,
>
> I have had Proxmox in production since 2015, including multiple clusters
> with hyperconverged clustered storage, at small ISPs and medium-sized
> businesses.
>
> As a wrapper/management system for KVM and LXC, I have no complaints -- it
> is simple and effective (and the price is right.)
>
> However, I have also supported the project financially since day 1, as they
> also do good work around high availability and storage clustering -- I
> don't know of any other projects making true HA so accessible at the price.
>
> To sum up, proxmox is a well-maintained product for those who have a
> moderate to advanced amount of linux-fu; it doesn't really get in the way.
>
> I also run it in my garage heater home lab which may be a *teensy* bit out
> of hand.
>
> Feel free to ask more questions,
> Jeremy Austin
> IdeaLoft
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> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 11:09 AM JP <jp@...> wrote:
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>> Hi there NUGA,
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>> I have inherited a proxmox server. I have used it in labs, and have found
>> it to be pretty solid. I am wondering if anyone is using it in
>> production, and if you would share your feedback?
>>
>> Thanks.
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