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Re: BEWARE: macOS 11.0.1 #macos

Guy
 

Agreed. Somebody had to first discover to discover the "glitch" and let Dave know. This time it was me.
Guy
Re: BEWARE: macOS 11.0.1 #macos

Guy
 

Very true. However, until I open a third party app and discover the incompatibility, it doesn't really matter when I installed the OS upgrade. David, has done a wonderful job this afternoon getting things straightened out. 
Re: BEWARE: macOS 11.0.1 #macos

Harry Bloomberg
 

You can disable automatic MacOS updates so that you can update on your schedule.  See the attached screenshot of System Preferences.

73,
Harry Bloomberg W3YJ

On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 1:10 PM Guy <wa3jzn@...> wrote:
Cuppertino moved my MBP  and iMAC to macOS "Big Sur" v11.0.1 overnight. Whoopie!
0930 today was our countywide Fall SET. The entire family of Fldigi programs opened as great white blobs of non-functionality.
Obviously, things did not go well on this end.
 Looking forward to fix in Fldigi "The Next Generation". Anyone have an idea of a release date?

73
Guy, WA3JZN

Re: BEWARE: macOS 11.0.1 #macos

Dave
 

My advice is to revert to the previous version of the OS and disable automatic version updates.

David

On 11/14/20 12:10 PM, Guy wrote:
Cuppertino moved my MBP  and iMAC to macOS "Big Sur" v11.0.1 overnight. Whoopie!
0930 today was our countywide Fall SET. The entire family of Fldigi programs opened as great white blobs of non-functionality.
Obviously, things did not go well on this end.
 Looking forward to fix in Fldigi "The Next Generation". Anyone have an idea of a release date?

73
Guy, WA3JZN

Re: Beware macOS V11.0.1

Vince N2JRS
 

I feel your pain. I use an application called SARTrak for public service events. The developer had a propensity for pushing updates at the most inopportune times. (Thankfully, the app is much more stable, and updates are much less more frequent.) The beauty of the updates is that you HAD to do the update or it wouldn’t work. And yes, the night before an event is when an update rolled out. Had to update all the laptops at 5AM. Good times.

 

Vince N2JRS

 

From: nbems@groups.io [mailto:nbems@groups.io] On Behalf Of Guy
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 1:08 PM
To: nbems@groups.io
Subject: [nbems] Beware macOS V11.0.1

 

Cuppertino moved my MBP  and iMAC to macOS "Big Sur" v11.0.1 overnight. Whoopie!
0930 today was our countywide Fall SET. The entire family of Fldigi programs opened as great white blobs of non-functionality.
Obviously, things did not go well on this end.
 Looking forward to fix in Fldigi "The Next Generation". Anyone have an idea of a release date?
Until then it's back to the pc. Ugh!

73
Guy, WA3JZN

BEWARE: macOS 11.0.1 #macos

Guy
 

Cuppertino moved my MBP  and iMAC to macOS "Big Sur" v11.0.1 overnight. Whoopie!
0930 today was our countywide Fall SET. The entire family of Fldigi programs opened as great white blobs of non-functionality.
Obviously, things did not go well on this end.
 Looking forward to fix in Fldigi "The Next Generation". Anyone have an idea of a release date?

73
Guy, WA3JZN
Beware macOS V11.0.1

Guy
 

Cuppertino moved my MBP  and iMAC to macOS "Big Sur" v11.0.1 overnight. Whoopie!
0930 today was our countywide Fall SET. The entire family of Fldigi programs opened as great white blobs of non-functionality.
Obviously, things did not go well on this end.
 Looking forward to fix in Fldigi "The Next Generation". Anyone have an idea of a release date?
Until then it's back to the pc. Ugh!

73
Guy, WA3JZN
fldigi 4.1.16 posted at

Dave
 

http://www.w1hkj.com/files/fldigi

Version 4.1.16 - Fri Nov 13 08:18:00 2020
   
Cty.dat
  * Update distibution cty.dat data files
    dated 12 November 2020

Greek translation
  * Update to Greek po files

Globals
  * fix MODE_THOR_FIRST entry.
  * fix MODE_DOMINOEX_FIRST entry.

fmt fixes
  * track colors not correctly shown on tracking indicators

view_cw
  * change sample rate to be keyed to cw decoder samplerate

Canadian Provinces
  * update user configuration panel

FreeBSD/nullptr
  * nullptr is defined in _null.h

Navtex
  * fix kml file clean up code

benchmark
  * update to current gcc version

Phase and FEC quality display
  * Add phase-accuracy display for PSK modes (non-PSK31)
  * Added better FEC confidence code to THOR

Add new platform optimizations
  * added new --enable-optimizations options to ./configure
    RaspberryPi 1,2,3,4 [rpi1, rpi2, rpi3, rpi4]
    BeagleBone Black [bbb]
    Cyclone5 [cyclone5]
    Optimize for sse4 [sse4]
    Use AVX extensions [avx, avx2]
    i486, i686 [i486, i686]
    x86-64 [x86-64]
    ARM CPU-native [nativeARM]

Updated Doxygen Sourcecode Docs
  * Now renders to SVG for graphics (doxygen 1.18)
  * Fixed scripts for Cppcheck 1.9 changes
  * Added auto-installer for packages on Debian-like systems
  * Improved main page: index.html

fonts
  * fix slow start caused by font fixed/proportional enumeration
    fixed evaluator moved to separate thread during first
    instantiation of Font_Browser class.  Actual time to enumerate
    2650 fonts on an i5 3.2 GHz system is approximately 25
    seconds.  Background process does not effect UI, but selection
    of fixed fonts in font browser dialog may not show all of the
    fixed fonts until the evaluator thread exits.

PSK Reporter query
  * request fails to pskreporter, caused by hard coded request to NWS
    pskreporter site very slow in responding to connect request; caused UI to freeze.
      change request process to separate thread

Logbook compile warning
  * replace strncpy with "*comma_position ="

Please take note that a Ukrainian translation of the fldigi manual has been posted at:

Manual translation courtesy of Rostyslav Iablonskyi, UR5YGS.

73, David, W1HKJ
Re: AndFlmsg; attaching forms to text msgs? sent messages not always listed as sent: yellow time clock missing?

John (vk2eta)
 

Hi Ole,

No problems. Yes I can relate to that too, hihi 

All the best,

73, John (VK2ETA)
Re: AndFlmsg; attaching forms to text msgs? sent messages not always listed as sent: yellow time clock missing?

Ole Helgerson KI7MBR
 

Hi John,

Feedback much appreciated.  I am learning (especially from a recent emergency practice net here) that sometimes glitches I experienced that I thought were due to equipment error, were in fact operator error; mine.  Yikes.  Good learning moments to strengthen the internal neural networks.  Thanks for your kind patience and clear explanations.  73, Ole'


On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 9:11 PM John (vk2eta) <vk2eta@...> wrote:
Hi Ole,

Here is the current logic for transferring the messages from the outbox to the sent folder:

1. If send over radio, always transfer to sent folder unless the operator pressed "Stop Tx" button in the modem screen. This is true if the message is send individually or in batch (send all messages).

2. If sharing the message from the Outbox only: If the sharing app (for example email or sms app) returns a "Successful Completion" flag, transfer to sent folder.

If the sharing app returns a "Cancelled" flag, then we prompt the user for transferring to  the sent folder.

Now you may ask, why not always transfer to the sent folder if the sharing app returns a success flag and NOT transfer otherwise. Well, well I wish it was that simple, but some pretty common email apps including hmmm, hmmm Gmail to name one, do NOT return a "Success flag" even if the email is sent as expected.

That means that from an AndFlmsg app point of view we are in the dark as to what happened to the share action, hence the prompt if not successful.

Hope I have confused you enough!

In a nutshell your last paragraph describes exactly how the app is coded at the moment. Remember this app was designed to pass messages over radio as its primary focus.

Hope that helps.

All the best.

73, John

Re: AndFlmsg; attaching forms to text msgs? sent messages not always listed as sent: yellow time clock missing?

John (vk2eta)
 

Hi Ole,

Here is the current logic for transferring the messages from the outbox to the sent folder:

1. If send over radio, always transfer to sent folder unless the operator pressed "Stop Tx" button in the modem screen. This is true if the message is send individually or in batch (send all messages).

2. If sharing the message from the Outbox only: If the sharing app (for example email or sms app) returns a "Successful Completion" flag, transfer to sent folder.

If the sharing app returns a "Cancelled" flag, then we prompt the user for transferring to  the sent folder.

Now you may ask, why not always transfer to the sent folder if the sharing app returns a success flag and NOT transfer otherwise. Well, well I wish it was that simple, but some pretty common email apps including hmmm, hmmm Gmail to name one, do NOT return a "Success flag" even if the email is sent as expected.

That means that from an AndFlmsg app point of view we are in the dark as to what happened to the share action, hence the prompt if not successful.

Hope I have confused you enough!

In a nutshell your last paragraph describes exactly how the app is coded at the moment. Remember this app was designed to pass messages over radio as its primary focus.

Hope that helps.

All the best.

73, John
Re: AndFlmsg; attaching forms to text msgs? sent messages not always listed as sent: yellow time clock missing?

Ole Helgerson KI7MBR
 

Hi John,

I reviewed what I posted;

" I also checked whether the new version would send via Gmail attachment.  That worked fine.  What I observed, however, was the "SENT" tab did not seem to bring up the list of sent messages when they were sent as attachments.  They oddly were still in "OUTBOX." However, when selecting "SEND ALL MESSAGES,"  the phone brought up the familiar sounds of MT64_2000LG, the messages disappeared from the" OUTBOX" and appeared in "SENT MESSAGES."  That is a change from the old install which would list messages sent via Gmail as well as a tone mode. Interestingly, all the test messages that I sent on the newer software, did seem to be listed under "LOGS" even when they stayed in the "OUTBOX."   If of any use, the phone; low dollar Nokia, with Android 9"

Re sent messages not always showing up, I see these possibilities; a) operator error, me not doing something correctly,such as selecting "YES" re "do you want to move this message to the "SENT," b) the phone, Nokia 3.1, not a powerhouse but seems reliable, or c) something in the version that was used.  I did not record the version that was used..  Apologies for that and in raising what appears to be a non-issue with the phone's software, again most likely operator error..

I just now resent a message twice via Gmail, selected "YES"  each time to move the message to "SENT" and it worked both times.  A third time, selecting "NO" kept the message in the "OUTBOX."  Next, tested  "TX OVER RADIO" and the message automatically appeared in "SENT."   A handy choice to have.

73, Ole





On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 8:17 PM Ole Helgerson KI7MBR via groups.io <olehelgerson=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi John,

Thanks for clarification on clock.  Re messages, I will have to reactivate those memory neurons.  Might take a day or two....And coffee.  73,   Ole

On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 7:57 PM John (vk2eta) <vk2eta@...> wrote:
Hello Ole,

Yes the clock has been removed as it was attached to the GPS time function that caused problems with non Google-approved devices (tablets mainly) which lacked hardware GPS units.

Since there were no Flmsg function attached to the display of time, I removed it. 

In the subject you mentioned "Sent messages not always listed as sent". Could you elaborate please?

73, John

Re: AndFlmsg; attaching forms to text msgs? sent messages not always listed as sent: yellow time clock missing?

Ole Helgerson KI7MBR
 

Hi John,

Thanks for clarification on clock.  Re messages, I will have to reactivate those memory neurons.  Might take a day or two....And coffee.  73,   Ole


On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 7:57 PM John (vk2eta) <vk2eta@...> wrote:
Hello Ole,

Yes the clock has been removed as it was attached to the GPS time function that caused problems with non Google-approved devices (tablets mainly) which lacked hardware GPS units.

Since there were no Flmsg function attached to the display of time, I removed it. 

In the subject you mentioned "Sent messages not always listed as sent". Could you elaborate please?

73, John

Re: AndFlmsg; attaching forms to text msgs? sent messages not always listed as sent: yellow time clock missing?

John (vk2eta)
 

Hello Ole,

Yes the clock has been removed as it was attached to the GPS time function that caused problems with non Google-approved devices (tablets mainly) which lacked hardware GPS units.

Since there were no Flmsg function attached to the display of time, I removed it. 

In the subject you mentioned "Sent messages not always listed as sent". Could you elaborate please?

73, John
Re: AndFlmsg; attaching forms to text msgs? sent messages not always listed as sent: yellow time clock missing?

Ole Helgerson KI7MBR
 

Hi John,

FYI & Question; I installed 1.3.13 over the weekend from Source forge and noticed today the the yellow "mm:ss" clock in the upper left portion of the terminal screen was not there.  I checked the "Settings" and it did not appear to be in there.

Though,.... could be me, doc says I am becoming a candidate for cataract surgery.

Also, I did mention AndFlmsg's new ability to send text on a recent Oregon District One ARES net.

Thanks in advance.

73,  Ole KI7MBR
AndFlmsg 1.3.13

Dave
 

posted at http://www.w1hkj.com/files/AndFlmsg/

and at SourceForge.

AndFlmsg is developed and distributed by John Douyere, VK2ETA.  Thank you John.

73, David, W1HKJ

Re: Invitation to attend zoom presentation

VJ R
 

Thank you for the links and the files. Very useful.

Victor
WP4QZH

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 2:23 PM Barry Porter via groups.io <BarryP13=mac.com@groups.io> wrote:
Viewing Zoom Presentation: https://vimeo.com/476153004
Related Documents: Attached
 
Please feel free to share this and our other presentations with your friends, clubs and organizations
Send presentation comments and suggestions to RATPAC Planning committee ratpac.plan@...
 
Please note: RATPAC will not be doing Zoom sessions on the following dates: 
November 25 - Thanksgiving Eve /  November 26 - Thanksgiving Day
December 24 - Christmas Eve  /  December 25 - Christmas Day
December 31 - New Years Eve  /  January 01- New Years Day 2021
                    
Join our SEC-ARES group for announcements and discussions https://groups.io/g/SEC-ARES
Please be sure to include your name and call sign when registering on SEC-ARES
 
Best of 73's and please stay safe.
 
Re: Invitation to attend zoom presentation

Barry Porter
 

Viewing Zoom Presentation: https://vimeo.com/476153004
Download Zoom presentation:  https://vimeo.com/user107547861/download/476153004/b5e83fda81
Related Documents: Attached
 
Please feel free to share this and our other presentations with your friends, clubs and organizations
Send presentation comments and suggestions to RATPAC Planning committee ratpac.plan@...
 
Please note: RATPAC will not be doing Zoom sessions on the following dates: 
November 25 - Thanksgiving Eve /  November 26 - Thanksgiving Day
December 24 - Christmas Eve  /  December 25 - Christmas Day
December 31 - New Years Eve  /  January 01- New Years Day 2021
                    
Join our SEC-ARES group for announcements and discussions https://groups.io/g/SEC-ARES
Please be sure to include your name and call sign when registering on SEC-ARES
 
Best of 73's and please stay safe.
 

PDF
11-05-20 FLDIGI Presentation.pdf
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11-05-20 FLDIGI-FLMSG Presentation CHAT.pdf

Re: Invitation to attend zoom presentation

Vince N2JRS
 

It’s SEC-ARES. https://groups.io/g/sec-ares/

 

Vince N2JRS

 

From: nbems@groups.io [mailto:nbems@groups.io] On Behalf Of Doug - AB7DG - Tacoma WA
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 12:17 PM
To: nbems@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nbems] Invitation to attend zoom presentation

 

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 08:19 AM, Barry Porter wrote:

just posted to the AEC-ARES group.

I'm not locating a public group named AEC-ARES.  I do belong to my local ARES organization. Can you direct me to that group?

Re: Invitation to attend zoom presentation

Doug - AB7DG - Tacoma WA <schafer@...>
 

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 08:19 AM, Barry Porter wrote:
just posted to the AEC-ARES group.
I'm not locating a public group named AEC-ARES.  I do belong to my local ARES organization. Can you direct me to that group?
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