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FLDigi v. 2.09 Red Waterfall

"cplt102" <nv6v@...>
 

Greetings to the group and my apologies if this has already been
addressed...I searched a bit in the previous posts and didn't see it.

I just upgraded fldigi to 2.09 and the waterfall turned a solid bright
red. It seems unaffected by the audio that is coming in. Version 1.x
worked fine (btw, everything else about the new version is great!).

I'm running Ubuntu 7.10.

Any ideas?

73 de Andy, NV6V


Beacon

w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
 

Greg wrote:

I think this was probably intentionally done as it keeps the human
operator in the loop. I don't think we would want this to become
another winlink type of software where we set up NBEMS stations and
have them go fully automatic. I think that would defeat the purpose of
NBEMS.

Greg
KC7GNM

You are absolutely correct Greg.  Skip (KH6TY) and I were not even sure that we wanted to make the beacon have any automation at all, but if it were not a timed event then the operator would be totally tied to the keyboard.

Dave, W1HKJ


Re: Beacon

"Greg" <cajin_77@...>
 

--- In NBEMSham@..., "w7oze" <w7oze@...> wrote:

A station is being used as a mail server, likewise it has its beacon
turned on. If another station connects as in delivering mail, the beacon
is turned off as expected. Upon a disconnect, I would expect the
beacon to start its timer and continue to perform its functionality as
a beacon, but at this time the beacon is disabled. One must manually
turn the beacon on again. Can we return to the beacon mode upon a
disconnect?
I think this was probably intentionally done as it keeps the human
operator in the loop. I don't think we would want this to become
another winlink type of software where we set up NBEMS stations and
have them go fully automatic. I think that would defeat the purpose of
NBEMS.

Greg
KC7GNM


Beacon

"w7oze" <w7oze@...>
 

A station is being used as a mail server, likewise it has its beacon
turned on. If another station connects as in delivering mail, the beacon
is turned off as expected. Upon a disconnect, I would expect the
beacon to start its timer and continue to perform its functionality as
a beacon, but at this time the beacon is disabled. One must manually
turn the beacon on again. Can we return to the beacon mode upon a
disconnect?


Re: NBEMS Testing

"ijeh99" <ve4keh@...>
 

I'm a little too late getting fldigi/flarq and a sound card interface
together to participate in the previous attempts at contacts.

However, I'll keep an ear open this weekend to entertain contacts on,
say, 10137 kHz (+1500 Hz audio) plus/minus depending on QRM.
Anticipate using MFSK16, but will switch to whatever pops up. If
you've got a specific time/freq/mode in mind, drop me a note and I'll
try to accommodate.

As I'm out of town a lot lately, I'm /really/ considering ways to
connect to the shack via the inet. Until then, only weekends work for me.

Kent VE4KEH
--- In NBEMSham@..., "wy7usa" <wy7usa@...> wrote:

I could be available this weekend if you like.

My QTH is in north west Wyoming.
<snip>


Re: Connect Retries...

"Jeffrey P. Nast" <kc0mks@...>
 

Roger on the MMVARI. Thank you!

-Jeff Nast
KCØMKS



--- In NBEMSham@..., w1hkj <w1hkj@...> wrote:

Thanks for your patience and testing Jeff. I have found an error
in the
logic surrounding retry and timeout counters. I have made changes
to
the code and am doing internal tests.

The extra space that you see at the front of some of the
transmissions
is probably caused by noise detection in the MMVARI control. This
can
occur even if you are not connected to a transceiver. The MMVARI
control seems to generate random rx characters at the trailing end
of
every transmission. The effect gets worse as the psk baud rate
increases. The defect has been reported to the MMVARI author, but
I
have not received any reply to my request for a fix or for access
to the
source code to the MMVARI control. The multiple <SOH> characters
that
you see at the beginning of each transmission are there to mask the
false decodes and also to force the psk afc loop to fully lock
before
valid characters are transmitted. flarq ignores multiple <SOH>
characters.


73, Dave, W1HKJ
NBEMS development team


Re: Connect Retries...

w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
 

Thanks for your patience and testing Jeff. I have found an error in the logic surrounding retry and timeout counters. I have made changes to the code and am doing internal tests.

The extra space that you see at the front of some of the transmissions is probably caused by noise detection in the MMVARI control. This can occur even if you are not connected to a transceiver. The MMVARI control seems to generate random rx characters at the trailing end of every transmission. The effect gets worse as the psk baud rate increases. The defect has been reported to the MMVARI author, but I have not received any reply to my request for a fix or for access to the source code to the MMVARI control. The multiple <SOH> characters that you see at the beginning of each transmission are there to mask the false decodes and also to force the psk afc loop to fully lock before valid characters are transmitted. flarq ignores multiple <SOH> characters.


73, Dave, W1HKJ
NBEMS development team


flarq does not connect, vbdigi seems to work

"Ilkka Kontola" <oh3njc@...>
 

Hi

I have tried NBEMS with Yussi OH7TE and Tommi OH7JJT with no success.

VBdigi seems to work fine but the (inter process) communication
between flarq and VBdigi stops during the first connection attempt.
Have tried all modes VBdigi supports.

After the unsuccessful "on air" test I tried a "wired" (sound cards
directly connected) QSO between two laptops. Same problem; flarq
stops to communicate with VBdigi. VBdigi works OK alone.

I wonder if some other digi mode software has installed dll:s flarq
does not like....

I have RFSM-8000 (several versions), MultiPSK, MixW and EasyPal. I
think Yussi and Tommi have at least these applications installed.
(BTW Yussi, Tommi and I have been beta testing the RFSM-8000 now for
several months and we are quite impressed on the performance on
auroral zone 80m domestic QSOs)

Anyone using both RFSM-2400/8000 and NBEMS?

73, Ilkka OH3NJC


Re: Connect Retries...

"Jeffrey P. Nast" <kc0mks@...>
 

Below is another sampling of what I am seeing with control codes
enabled. I captured this on a different and much faster machine.
Behavior is still the same. VBdigi 1.2.0 and flarq 3.0. First machine
was "Win2k Server" and this one is "WinXP Pro". Again, I have nothing
connected to the machine. No radio, no interface, no microphone. So
when sending a connection attempt, I expect it to fail after 5
attempts because I have the flarq "Retries" set to "5".

There was one connect attempt that only tried once (KC0RTX). There
were two that tried to connect 6 times (KC0MKT and AA0AW). Only a few
actually tried five times.

I have seen this behavior while actually in a connected state with
another machine. If the conditions are poor and retries occur, it
doesn't always retry five times.

As for the extraneous spaces. I don't believe they are caused by
"system noise". I have found that they immediately appear at the end
of a screen print, after the CRLF and before the next connect attempt.
Not at the beginning of the screen print. If it was system noise, then
I would expect it to be much more random, more of them and exhibited
by multiple gibberish characters. To eliminate the chance of system
noise, I moved the s-meter threshold all the way to the top. I don't
know if the extra space is actually being transmitted over the air,
but it does appear in the window.

As before, in the example below I have replaced the space that appears
in column 1 with an "x". I have noticed on this and other Yahoo
Groups, that Yahoo removes any spaces in the first column. It doesn't
like indents and eliminates them. For instance, in the next sentence I
will precede it with 5 spaces:

The quick red fox jumped over the lazy dog.

So this is why I will replace the single space character that randomly
appears in column one with an "x". But of course with my luck, it will
work correctly this time... ;-)

<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0TIU:24 0 741E9<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0TIU:24 0 741E9<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0TIU:24 0 741E9<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0MKT:24 0 757E0<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0MKT:24 0 757E0<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0MKT:24 0 757E0<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0MKT:24 0 757E0<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0MKT:24 0 757E0<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0MKT:24 0 757E0<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0MKU:24 0 79B21<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0MKU:24 0 79B21<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0WDQ:24 0 72D40<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0WDQ:24 0 72D40<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0RTX:24 0 7975D<EOT>
x<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0PDG:24 0 7D170<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0PDG:24 0 7D170<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0PDG:24 0 7D170<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0PDG:24 0 7D170<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0PDG:24 0 7D170<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5<EOT>
x<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5<EOT>
x<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5<EOT>
x<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5<EOT>
x<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5<EOT>
x<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5<EOT>
x<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
N9ZCO:24 0 70D5B<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
N9ZCO:24 0 70D5B<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
N9ZCO:24 0 70D5B<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
N9ZCO:24 0 70D5B<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0TST:24 0 7ED9B<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0TST:24 0 7ED9B<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0TST:24 0 7ED9B<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KC0TST:24 0 7ED9B<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
N0IM:24 0 73C49<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
N0IM:24 0 73C49<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
N9UCJ:24 0 702AB<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
N9UCJ:24 0 702AB<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
N9UCJ:24 0 702AB<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
N9UCJ:24 0 702AB<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KB0P:24 0 71634<EOT>
x<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KB0P:24 0 71634<EOT>
x<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KB0P:24 0 71634<EOT>
x<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KB0P:24 0 71634<EOT>
x<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
KB0P:24 0 71634<EOT>
x<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
K0JJR:24 0 7CDD2<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
K0JJR:24 0 7CDD2<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
K0JJR:24 0 7CDD2<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
K0JJR:24 0 7CDD2<EOT>
<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
N0GRX:24 0 74465<EOT>
x<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
N0GRX:24 0 74465<EOT>
x<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
N0GRX:24 0 74465<EOT>
x<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
N0GRX:24 0 74465<EOT>
x<SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH><SOH>00cKC0MKS:1025
N0GRX:24 0 74465<EOT>

Thank you!!!
-Jeff Nast
KCØMKS



--- In NBEMSham@..., w1hkj <w1hkj@...> wrote:

You need to enable the visibility of control codes, "Configure/Show
Ctl
Codes" on the vbdigi menu system.

The extra space is probably just system noise.

Dave


Update on Testing in Indep Missouri

"n0evh" <n0evh@...>
 

Hello all,

N0EVH John and KB0EMB Larry continued our testing with the latest
versions of software. We were running 2 meter SSB on Yaesu gear 897
and 817 a few miles apart.

We are experiencing good connects and transfers at all psk speeds up
to and including psk250.

Sending small and large text files I only remember one ARQ that had
to be resent.

Occasionally on a restart (from changing speeds) a connect would not
happen. We would down shift to psk63 and get a success and then
move back to psk250. Don't understand what that was about.

With that success we then tried 2 meter FM. We found that decode
was inconsistent. Thinking this was due to not having the audio
levels correct. We will give it another go later.

All in all we are very impressed and excited about what these
applications offer to emcom. We will try some longer distances in
the near future.

Thanks for the hard work.

John N0EVH


Re: Connect Retries...

roger g6ckr <radio@...>
 

Just a note re your second mail and relates to the emailing of the
spaces not the generating of them.
This is a reply using the first mail.
Spaces arrived here OK.

Since the lines are now quoted they should be preserved still with the
spaces. So it looks like the problem may be at the receive end not in
the system.
Roger
G6CKR

On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 21:14 +0000, Jeffrey P. Nast wrote:
Using flarq 3.0 and VBdigi 1.2.0...

I have noticed that the retry count fluctuates. With my laptop not
connected to anything (listening through the speaker), I will try
to "connect" to a number of different stations. Of course each one
will fail. But the number of retries for some attempts varies.

In the example below, for each "Connect" attempt I used a different
call sign. Notice also that an extraneous space character is
intermittantly inserted at the begining of some lines.

Questions:
* Does the "Retries" count in the flarq config also pertain to the
number of "Connect" attempts?
* Why does the number of connect attempts vary?
* Where does the intermittant extraneous space character in column 1
come from?

00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0TIU:24 0 741E9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0TIU:24 0 741E9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0TIU:24 0 741E9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0TIU:24 0 741E9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0WDQ:24 0 72D40
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0WDQ:24 0 72D40
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0WDQ:24 0 72D40
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0WDQ:24 0 72D40
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKU:24 0 79B21
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKU:24 0 79B21
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKU:24 0 79B21
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKT:24 0 757E0
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKT:24 0 757E0
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKT:24 0 757E0
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RTX:24 0 7975D
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RTX:24 0 7975D
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RTX:24 0 7975D
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1
00cKC0MKS:1025 N0MR:24 0 7B03A
00cKC0MKS:1025 N0MR:24 0 7B03A
00cKC0MKS:1025 N0MR:24 0 7B03A
00cKC0MKS:1025 N0IM:24 0 73C49
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0FTN:24 0 7F19C
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0FTN:24 0 7F19C
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0FTN:24 0 7F19C
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0FTN:24 0 7F19C
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0PHK:24 0 78425
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0PHK:24 0 78425
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0PHK:24 0 78425
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0PHK:24 0 78425
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0PHK:24 0 78425
00cKC0MKS:1025 W0KTX:24 0 73853
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0TST:24 0 7ED9B
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0TST:24 0 7ED9B
00cKC0MKS:1025 W4LX:24 0 7D68C
00cKC0MKS:1025 W4LX:24 0 7D68C
00cKC0MKS:1025 W4LX:24 0 7D68C
00cKC0MKS:1025 W4LX:24 0 7D68C
00cKC0MKS:1025 W4LX:24 0 7D68C
00cKC0MKS:1025 VP6DX:24 0 7EB0E
00cKC0MKS:1025 VP6DX:24 0 7EB0E
00cKC0MKS:1025 VP6DX:24 0 7EB0E
00cKC0MKS:1025 VP6DX:24 0 7EB0E
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RCV:24 0 7EB37
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RCV:24 0 7EB37
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RCV:24 0 7EB37
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RCV:24 0 7EB37
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RCV:24 0 7EB37
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKQ:24 0 76820
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKQ:24 0 76820
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKQ:24 0 76820
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKQ:24 0 76820
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKQ:24 0 76820
00cKC0MKS:1025 W0RO:24 0 7490C
00cKC0MKS:1025 W0RO:24 0 7490C
00cKC0MKS:1025 KB0ROB:24 0 7D79F
00cKC0MKS:1025 KB0ROB:24 0 7D79F
00cKC0MKS:1025 KB0ROB:24 0 7D79F
00cKC0MKS:1025 KB0ROB:24 0 7D79F
00cKC0MKS:1025 KB0ROB:24 0 7D79F
00cKC0MKS:1025 KI0DB:24 0 7F739
00cKC0MKS:1025 AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5
00cKC0MKS:1025 AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5
00cKC0MKS:1025 AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5
00cKC0MKS:1025 AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5
00cKC0MKS:1025 AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5
00cKC0MKS:1025 AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0NFB:24 0 7EEC9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0NFB:24 0 7EEC9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0NFB:24 0 7EEC9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0NFB:24 0 7EEC9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0NFB:24 0 7EEC9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0ZZL:24 0 7E290
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0ZZL:24 0 7E290
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0ZZL:24 0 7E290
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0ZZL:24 0 7E290
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0ZZL:24 0 7E290
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0SJB:24 0 7810C
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0SJB:24 0 7810C
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0SJB:24 0 7810C
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0SJB:24 0 7810C
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0SJB:24 0 7810C
00cKC0MKS:1025 K0JJR:24 0 7CDD2
00cKC0MKS:1025 K0JJR:24 0 7CDD2
00cKC0MKS:1025 K0JJR:24 0 7CDD2
00cKC0MKS:1025 K0JJR:24 0 7CDD2
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1

Great software! Thank you!

-Jeff Nast
KC0MKS




Yahoo! Groups Links



Re: Connect Retries...

w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
 

You need to enable the visibilty of control codes, "Configure/Show Ctl Codes" on the vbdigi menu system.

The extra space is probably just system noise.

Dave


Re: Connect Retries...

"Jeffrey P. Nast" <kc0mks@...>
 

Noticed that the Yahoo editor removed the spaces in column 1. Here it
is again, only I put an "x" wherever there was a space...

00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0TIU:24 0 741E9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0TIU:24 0 741E9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0TIU:24 0 741E9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0TIU:24 0 741E9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0WDQ:24 0 72D40
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0WDQ:24 0 72D40
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0WDQ:24 0 72D40
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0WDQ:24 0 72D40
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKU:24 0 79B21
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKU:24 0 79B21
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKU:24 0 79B21
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKT:24 0 757E0
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKT:24 0 757E0
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKT:24 0 757E0
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RTX:24 0 7975D
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RTX:24 0 7975D
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RTX:24 0 7975D
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1
x00cKC0MKS:1025 N0MR:24 0 7B03A
00cKC0MKS:1025 N0MR:24 0 7B03A
00cKC0MKS:1025 N0MR:24 0 7B03A
00cKC0MKS:1025 N0IM:24 0 73C49
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0FTN:24 0 7F19C
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0FTN:24 0 7F19C
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0FTN:24 0 7F19C
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0FTN:24 0 7F19C
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0PHK:24 0 78425
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0PHK:24 0 78425
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0PHK:24 0 78425
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0PHK:24 0 78425
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0PHK:24 0 78425
00cKC0MKS:1025 W0KTX:24 0 73853
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0TST:24 0 7ED9B
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0TST:24 0 7ED9B
00cKC0MKS:1025 W4LX:24 0 7D68C
x00cKC0MKS:1025 W4LX:24 0 7D68C
x00cKC0MKS:1025 W4LX:24 0 7D68C
x00cKC0MKS:1025 W4LX:24 0 7D68C
x00cKC0MKS:1025 W4LX:24 0 7D68C
x00cKC0MKS:1025 VP6DX:24 0 7EB0E
00cKC0MKS:1025 VP6DX:24 0 7EB0E
00cKC0MKS:1025 VP6DX:24 0 7EB0E
00cKC0MKS:1025 VP6DX:24 0 7EB0E
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RCV:24 0 7EB37
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RCV:24 0 7EB37
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RCV:24 0 7EB37
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RCV:24 0 7EB37
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RCV:24 0 7EB37
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKQ:24 0 76820
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKQ:24 0 76820
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKQ:24 0 76820
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKQ:24 0 76820
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKQ:24 0 76820
00cKC0MKS:1025 W0RO:24 0 7490C
00cKC0MKS:1025 W0RO:24 0 7490C
00cKC0MKS:1025 KB0ROB:24 0 7D79F
00cKC0MKS:1025 KB0ROB:24 0 7D79F
00cKC0MKS:1025 KB0ROB:24 0 7D79F
00cKC0MKS:1025 KB0ROB:24 0 7D79F
00cKC0MKS:1025 KB0ROB:24 0 7D79F
00cKC0MKS:1025 KI0DB:24 0 7F739
00cKC0MKS:1025 AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5
x00cKC0MKS:1025 AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5
x00cKC0MKS:1025 AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5
x00cKC0MKS:1025 AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5
x00cKC0MKS:1025 AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5
x00cKC0MKS:1025 AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0NFB:24 0 7EEC9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0NFB:24 0 7EEC9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0NFB:24 0 7EEC9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0NFB:24 0 7EEC9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0NFB:24 0 7EEC9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0ZZL:24 0 7E290
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0ZZL:24 0 7E290
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0ZZL:24 0 7E290
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0ZZL:24 0 7E290
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0ZZL:24 0 7E290
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0SJB:24 0 7810C
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0SJB:24 0 7810C
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0SJB:24 0 7810C
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0SJB:24 0 7810C
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0SJB:24 0 7810C
x00cKC0MKS:1025 K0JJR:24 0 7CDD2
00cKC0MKS:1025 K0JJR:24 0 7CDD2
00cKC0MKS:1025 K0JJR:24 0 7CDD2
00cKC0MKS:1025 K0JJR:24 0 7CDD2
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1
x00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1

Thanks again!
-Jeff


--- In NBEMSham@..., "Jeffrey P. Nast" <kc0mks@...> wrote:

Using flarq 3.0 and VBdigi 1.2.0...

I have noticed that the retry count fluctuates. With my laptop not
connected to anything (listening through the speaker), I will try
to "connect" to a number of different stations. Of course each one
will fail. But the number of retries for some attempts varies.

In the example below, for each "Connect" attempt I used a different
call sign. Notice also that an extraneous space character is
intermittantly inserted at the begining of some lines.

Questions:
* Does the "Retries" count in the flarq config also pertain to the
number of "Connect" attempts?
* Why does the number of connect attempts vary?
* Where does the intermittant extraneous space character in column
1
come from?

00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0TIU:24 0 741E9
:
:
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1

Great software! Thank you!

-Jeff Nast
KC0MKS


Connect Retries...

"Jeffrey P. Nast" <kc0mks@...>
 

Using flarq 3.0 and VBdigi 1.2.0...

I have noticed that the retry count fluctuates. With my laptop not
connected to anything (listening through the speaker), I will try
to "connect" to a number of different stations. Of course each one
will fail. But the number of retries for some attempts varies.

In the example below, for each "Connect" attempt I used a different
call sign. Notice also that an extraneous space character is
intermittantly inserted at the begining of some lines.

Questions:
* Does the "Retries" count in the flarq config also pertain to the
number of "Connect" attempts?
* Why does the number of connect attempts vary?
* Where does the intermittant extraneous space character in column 1
come from?

00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0TIU:24 0 741E9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0TIU:24 0 741E9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0TIU:24 0 741E9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0TIU:24 0 741E9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0WDQ:24 0 72D40
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0WDQ:24 0 72D40
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0WDQ:24 0 72D40
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0WDQ:24 0 72D40
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKU:24 0 79B21
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKU:24 0 79B21
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKU:24 0 79B21
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKT:24 0 757E0
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKT:24 0 757E0
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKT:24 0 757E0
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RTX:24 0 7975D
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RTX:24 0 7975D
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RTX:24 0 7975D
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1
00cKC0MKS:1025 N0MR:24 0 7B03A
00cKC0MKS:1025 N0MR:24 0 7B03A
00cKC0MKS:1025 N0MR:24 0 7B03A
00cKC0MKS:1025 N0IM:24 0 73C49
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0FTN:24 0 7F19C
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0FTN:24 0 7F19C
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0FTN:24 0 7F19C
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0FTN:24 0 7F19C
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0PHK:24 0 78425
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0PHK:24 0 78425
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0PHK:24 0 78425
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0PHK:24 0 78425
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0PHK:24 0 78425
00cKC0MKS:1025 W0KTX:24 0 73853
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0TST:24 0 7ED9B
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0TST:24 0 7ED9B
00cKC0MKS:1025 W4LX:24 0 7D68C
00cKC0MKS:1025 W4LX:24 0 7D68C
00cKC0MKS:1025 W4LX:24 0 7D68C
00cKC0MKS:1025 W4LX:24 0 7D68C
00cKC0MKS:1025 W4LX:24 0 7D68C
00cKC0MKS:1025 VP6DX:24 0 7EB0E
00cKC0MKS:1025 VP6DX:24 0 7EB0E
00cKC0MKS:1025 VP6DX:24 0 7EB0E
00cKC0MKS:1025 VP6DX:24 0 7EB0E
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RCV:24 0 7EB37
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RCV:24 0 7EB37
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RCV:24 0 7EB37
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RCV:24 0 7EB37
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0RCV:24 0 7EB37
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKQ:24 0 76820
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKQ:24 0 76820
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKQ:24 0 76820
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKQ:24 0 76820
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKQ:24 0 76820
00cKC0MKS:1025 W0RO:24 0 7490C
00cKC0MKS:1025 W0RO:24 0 7490C
00cKC0MKS:1025 KB0ROB:24 0 7D79F
00cKC0MKS:1025 KB0ROB:24 0 7D79F
00cKC0MKS:1025 KB0ROB:24 0 7D79F
00cKC0MKS:1025 KB0ROB:24 0 7D79F
00cKC0MKS:1025 KB0ROB:24 0 7D79F
00cKC0MKS:1025 KI0DB:24 0 7F739
00cKC0MKS:1025 AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5
00cKC0MKS:1025 AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5
00cKC0MKS:1025 AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5
00cKC0MKS:1025 AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5
00cKC0MKS:1025 AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5
00cKC0MKS:1025 AA0AW:24 0 7ECF5
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0NFB:24 0 7EEC9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0NFB:24 0 7EEC9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0NFB:24 0 7EEC9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0NFB:24 0 7EEC9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0NFB:24 0 7EEC9
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0ZZL:24 0 7E290
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0ZZL:24 0 7E290
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0ZZL:24 0 7E290
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0ZZL:24 0 7E290
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0ZZL:24 0 7E290
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0SJB:24 0 7810C
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0SJB:24 0 7810C
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0SJB:24 0 7810C
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0SJB:24 0 7810C
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0SJB:24 0 7810C
00cKC0MKS:1025 K0JJR:24 0 7CDD2
00cKC0MKS:1025 K0JJR:24 0 7CDD2
00cKC0MKS:1025 K0JJR:24 0 7CDD2
00cKC0MKS:1025 K0JJR:24 0 7CDD2
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1
00cKC0MKS:1025 KC0MKS:24 0 7B1A1

Great software! Thank you!

-Jeff Nast
KC0MKS


Re: NBEMS bug or question

"Allison Parent" <kb1gmx@...>
 

Well, I downloaded and tried the Puppy Linux live CD version and
that impressed me greatly. It loaded on everything I tried it on
even an older P166/mmx with 128mb and ran very well. The FLdigi
did everything I asked of it. Runs on IBM t21 laptop very well
and I plan to try it on a slower machine to see its tolerence.


Allison

--- In NBEMSham@..., w1hkj <w1hkj@...> wrote:

The vbdigi application is resizeable to a minimum size that fits on an
800x600 screen as several other users have indicated.

Resize mouse cursors should appear when the cursor in on any edge or
corner of the main dialog. It's been a long long time since I
looked at
W98, but you should also be able to open a windows menu by clicking in
the upper left hand corner icon. One of those menu items should be
Size
as well as Move.

73, Dave W1HKJ


Re: NBEMS Testing

"wy7usa" <wy7usa@...>
 

I could be available this weekend if you like.

My QTH is in north west Wyoming.

73

Eric / WY7USA

--- In NBEMSham@..., John Bradley <jbradley@...> wrote:

so where is anyone doing any tests on NBEMS? 30m works well daytime
from up
here in western Canada.



Have successfully transferred mail using MFSK, since that day had a
lot of
Doppler or "flutter" on my signal, a problem living at this latitude.



John

VE5MU


Disconnects

"wy7usa" <wy7usa@...>
 

Tried the program today for few hours with a fellow ham a few miles
away on 2m ssb. It worked quite well.

We did experience a few disconnects where one station disconnects
(probably times out somehow) while the other one is still showing a
connection. There doesn't appear to any way short of terminating flArq
to force the remaining station to also disconnect so a reconnect will
be possible.

A way to ungracefully terminate a connection could be useful. It felt
like the connections are not very robust and that a single missed
keep-alive packet could cause a connection loss. (Not sure about the
last one, as I haven't studied the protocol in detail yet).

73

Eric / WY7USA


Re: Tx Offset usage

"wy7usa" <wy7usa@...>
 

I believe the txOffset is for calibration of differences in the TX and
RX clocks. See the help file of the MMVARI programm on how to
calibrate this with the help of an external loopback cable.

73

Eric / WY7USA


--- In NBEMSham@..., w1hkj <w1hkj@...> wrote:

The current /Tx Offset/ control will allow you to enter values beyond
the allowable limits of the MMVARI encoder/decoder. The /Tx Offset/
control will change to a combo box pick list for the next version. In
the meantime do not enter values larger than +/- 20 Hz. This
control is
used to compensate for *small* differences between Rx and Tx
frequencies. The difference is the combined error of your sound card
codec and your transceiver. Start with a 0 Hz offset. If you find
that
your Tx signal is 10 Hz higher than your Rx point then enter 10 Hz into
the control and vbdigi will subtract 10 Hz from the transmitted audio
waveform.

If you want to a large frequency differential between Rx and Tx then
you
should use the /Split/ control for that purpose.

Remember that there is on-line help for vbdigi:
http://w1hkj.com/vbdigi-help/vbdigi.html

73, Dave, W1HKJ


Re: NBEMS bug or question

w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
 

The vbdigi application is resizeable to a minimum size that fits on an 800x600 screen as several other users have indicated.

Resize mouse cursors should appear when the cursor in on any edge or corner of the main dialog. It's been a long long time since I looked at W98, but you should also be able to open a windows menu by clicking in the upper left hand corner icon. One of those menu items should be Size as well as Move.

73, Dave W1HKJ


Re: NBEMS bug or question

"Allison Parent" <kb1gmx@...>
 

--- In NBEMSham@..., roger g6ckr <radio@...> wrote:


On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 16:39 -0600, w1hkj wrote:
You just might be pushing the limits of antiquity Allison. What
size is
your screen? The software was designed to run on W98 through
Vista, but
you are the first to report trying this with a W95 hybrid. VB6
handles
all screen dimensions in Twips. The minimum width for the
application
is 7500 Twips. That will correspond to a different number of pixels
depending on your screen width in pixels. It has been run
successfully
on screen sizes of 1024x768 and up. Are you using something smaller
than that?

Dave, W1HKJ
Hi.
I just tested on a 500Mhz win98 laptop.
with bit of fiddling I can get what looks like a usable screen with
800x600 and the even lower screen size of 640x480.
by dragging the window about to get to the edges I manged to size it to
fit.
I then tried maximising it and that also made it fit.
I hope that is useful.
73 Roger G6CKR
Sorry no.

Minimized is 99% full screen and no resize. Maximized fills teh screen
but I expect that as normal.

What I can't do is grab a corner and shorten or make the screen
narrower at all. This is a problem as if there something on the
desktop I need I have to minimize to taskbar rather than have it at
and edge where I can pick it up.

Allison