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flnet 7.3.3.07 posted at

Dave
 

http://www.w1hkj.com/alpha/flnet/

Sat Dec 26 18:26:00 2020 -0500  alpha  7.3.3.07

  UI mods
    * Enable keypad Enter key for selecting call from pick list
    * Fix controlling order on edit dialog

  new fields
    * added GRID, LATD, LOND, AZ, DIST
      AZ & DIST are computed read only fields

  Distance Display
    * User configurable distance display, kilometers, nautical miles,
      statute miles.

  UI fixes
    * change all configuration items to progStatus
    * increase width of check-ins display lines
    * adjust UI widgets, position and size
    * change arrangement of fields in info panel
      - concatenate comment1, comment2 data fields
        separating each with a semicolon.
    * add user configurable justification, left/right for
      nickname field in check-in list

  autofiles

  mkappbundle
    * modify 'version' to include VERSION_PATCH

  Keyboard Shortcuts
    * Remove &menu items
    * Enable alt-F4 - cleanExit
    * on MacOS/OS-X enable cmd-Q - cleanExit

  Version 7.3.3

Remove country, locator, azimuth and distance from comment fields.  COUNTRY and LOCATOR are now a part of the database.  Azimuth and distance are computed values.  Changing arc measurement to kilometers or nautical miles should be reflected immediately in any displayed values.  You do not need to do anything with current flnet csv files.  The update is compatible with pre 7.3.3.07 files.  It is always a good idea to back up before testing.

73, David, W1HKJ


flnet 7.3.3.06 posted

Dave
 


flnet 7.3.3.05 posted

Dave
 

at http://www.w1hkj.com/alpha/flnet/
Fri Dec 25 13:42:00 2020 -0500  alpha  7.3.3.05

  UI fixes
    * change all configuration items to progStatus
    * increase width of check-ins display lines
    * adjust UI widgets, position and size
    * change arrangement of fields in info panel
      - concatenate comment1, comment2 data fields
        separating each with a semicolon.
    * add user configurable justification, left/right for
      nickname field in check-in list

  autofiles

  mkappbundle
    * modify 'version' to include VERSION_PATCH

  Keyboard Shortcuts
    * Remove &menu items
    * Enable alt-F4 - cleanExit
    * on MacOS/OS-X enable cmd-Q - cleanExit

  Version 7.3.3

Send test reports direct to w1hkj at bellsouth dot net
 


73, David, W1HKJ


flnet alpha version 7.3.3.03 posted

Dave
 

at http://www.w1hkj.com/alpha/flnet/

Thu Dec 24 18:26:00 2020 -0500  alpha  7.3.3.03

  UI fixes
    * change all configuration items to progStatus
    * increase width of check-ins display lines
    * adjust UI widgets, position and size

  autofiles

  mkappbundle
    * modify 'version' to include VERSION_PATCH

  Keyboard Shortcuts
    * Remove &menu items
    * Enable alt-F4 - cleanExit
    * on MacOS/OS-X enable cmd-Q - cleanExit

  Version 7.3.3

Existing database files in flnet.files are compatible with this update.  You will have to reconfigure the application.  Strongly suggest you create a backup of the entire contents of flnet.files before installing and running this alpha version.

All configuration items are now in a single file FLNET.prefs:

; FLTK preferences file format 1.0
; vendor: w1hkj.com
; application: FLNET

[.]

version:7.3.3
mainx:20
mainy:50
ui_size:0
fgColors[0]:56
fgColors[1]:56
fgColors[2]:255
fgColors[3]:95
fgColors[4]:255
bgColors[0]:56
bgColors[1]:255
bgColors[2]:216
bgColors[3]:60
bgColors[4]:72
disp_new_login:1
open_editor:0
callin_is_up:1
QRZXML:1
chAuto:32
chP1:A
chP2:B
chP3:C
strP1:
strP2:
strP3:
myLocator:EM64qv
user_name:w1hkj
user_password:*************
callookurl:https://www.callook.com/
hamqthurl:http://www.hamqth.net/
hamcallurl:https://www.hamcall.com/
qrzurl:https://www.qrz.com/

73, David, W1HKJ



Re: File Notifications #file-notice

Mike
 

Very nice. Lots of hard work there!

Mikel KE0AUE

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Help with ICOM7100 Configuration for FLDIGI and FLMSG

JoJo Melendres - KN6HTD
 

My FLMSG does not seem to connect at all to my FLDIGI. I am using ICOM7100. Can somebody provide screenshots of the configuration settings please? Or, email me directly... I thank you in advance! -Jojo KN6HTD


Re: Getting HTML file into flmsg

n6medjim@...
 

Unless it has happened recently, so far as I am aware Red Cross Disaster Services Technology (DST) doesn't deploy flmsg to its disaster laptops. Here in NorCal in the Gold Country Region we have deployed flmsg and the handful of Red Cross Custom HTML forms on flash drives, distributed to our disaster response trailers and to our Disaster Program Managers (DPMs). (fldigi and its suite of sibling utilities can be run from a flash drive.)

Some history for those unaware of the Red Cross Custom HTML forms, we developed and deployed them here in our region a couple of years ago for Routine, Priority, and Urgent disaster message traffic that require precision or exceed 25 words. Intent is for the message originator to keyboard the message and hand off the flmsg .k2s object file to a radio operator for transmission to the far end. The whole intent is to prevent transcription error between the originator, radio operators, and addressee. The number of Red Cross forms was deliberate, limited to those for message traffic that HAD to get through regardless the state of the public telecomm network. All other traffic could wait for telecom service restoration or that could be sent via sneaker or chevy net.

Dave Freese helped the effort by constructing a "simple" or "agency" interface for flmsg. Because of his efforts, training to use flmsg is minimal as the flmsg user has only three options: New Message, Edit Message, and View Message. The message form opens into the familiar environment of a browser, reducing the complaints of users to learn "yet another program".

Everyone be safe and be well
Jim / RN / N6MED


Re: AndFlmsg: BTECH $20 APRS cable; success / FRS, GMRS possibility?

Gordon Gibby
 

Excellent discussion.

On Dec 18, 2020, at 06:57, C Matthew Curtin via groups.io <kd8tte=protonmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

On Wednesday, December 16th, 2020 at 3:49 PM, KB3YCK <kb3yck@gmail.com> wrote:

NET: FRS/GMRS radios can provide a reasonable voice exchange with an equivalent radio, but I think the use case for messaging might be a stretch given the various limitations.
Agreed. In Franklin County Ohio, CERT has organized such that FRS is used for intrateam communication. Members are typically close enough to see each other but can be far enough away that the radio is useful. One or two members of the team will also have a second radio on a "site" net that ties the teams together with the ICP. The ICP will be on both the site net and an intersite net with any other sites' ICPs and area command (typically the EOC).

The EOC (technically, an adjacent "assessment center," where all of the raw data pour in) maintains tactical communication to ICPs local/VHF and other EOCs both VHF and HF, and has another station for record traffic both local/VHF and HF. There are other radio services available there as well, including the state-wide public safety trunked system, CB, and SHARES HF.

We've exercised various services provided this way, including welfare traffic, e.g., messages to friends and family of persons displaced by local infrastructure-damaging disaster.

The separating of nets to keep communication as local as possible also does a lot to help with the scalability of a situation. Of course this also gives us the ability to do things like establish record-traffic circuits for NBEMS to relay information from a scene to the EOC and from there to anywhere pretty rapidly.

Which services are in use for each part of this will depend on the action being undertaken but FRS, amateur VHF, amateur HF, and public safety UHF trunked systems are part of the mix. While we have a large ARES and NTS presence, anything working in support of the EMA is leave-the-labels-at-home AUXCOMM.

Matt KD8TTE





Re: AndFlmsg: BTECH $20 APRS cable; success / FRS, GMRS possibility?

C Matthew Curtin
 

On Wednesday, December 16th, 2020 at 3:49 PM, KB3YCK <kb3yck@gmail.com> wrote:

NET: FRS/GMRS radios can provide a reasonable voice exchange with an equivalent radio, but I think the use case for messaging might be a stretch given the various limitations.
Agreed. In Franklin County Ohio, CERT has organized such that FRS is used for intrateam communication. Members are typically close enough to see each other but can be far enough away that the radio is useful. One or two members of the team will also have a second radio on a "site" net that ties the teams together with the ICP. The ICP will be on both the site net and an intersite net with any other sites' ICPs and area command (typically the EOC).

The EOC (technically, an adjacent "assessment center," where all of the raw data pour in) maintains tactical communication to ICPs local/VHF and other EOCs both VHF and HF, and has another station for record traffic both local/VHF and HF. There are other radio services available there as well, including the state-wide public safety trunked system, CB, and SHARES HF.

We've exercised various services provided this way, including welfare traffic, e.g., messages to friends and family of persons displaced by local infrastructure-damaging disaster.

The separating of nets to keep communication as local as possible also does a lot to help with the scalability of a situation. Of course this also gives us the ability to do things like establish record-traffic circuits for NBEMS to relay information from a scene to the EOC and from there to anywhere pretty rapidly.

Which services are in use for each part of this will depend on the action being undertaken but FRS, amateur VHF, amateur HF, and public safety UHF trunked systems are part of the mix. While we have a large ARES and NTS presence, anything working in support of the EMA is leave-the-labels-at-home AUXCOMM.

Matt KD8TTE


Re: Getting HTML file into flmsg

C Matthew Curtin
 

On Wednesday, December 16th, 2020 at 6:15 PM, Bob Dixon <w8erdbob@gmail.com> wrote:

Situation - EMA official fills out a standard form on his PC, ad places it on a shared disk.

Ham radiop retrieves message from the disk. How does he get the html file into flmsg as a standard form?
Ostensibly this matters only to the delivering station, right? Relay stations don't need to be able to interpret the message; they need only find it to relay it. Even if they don't have the form it can always be sent as a file transfer. It won't matter if it's a custom form for FLMSG that the relay stations don't have, a CSV file, or a Winlink form.

I'd think that the only concerns that relay stations would have is the file size to deal with feasibility of transmission in the expected timeframe and that the transmission is lawful.

Matt KD8TTE


Re: Getting HTML file into flmsg

Larry Howell
 

Bob,

Once we know the actual forms the EMA is using, I can follow the suggestion from David KB3 and Dave W1HKJ to create a utility program to extract the textual values from the form suitable for flmsg.  Until we know the exact forms being used we're just spinning our wheels.  Have you received information about the forms EMA / EOC is using?

Larry AC8YE


On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 2:15 PM Andy_VE4PER <andrew.webb.501.ve4per@...> wrote:

I went through this a while back. In the end I had to copy and modify and existing html template form from the .nbems custom forms folder then save that modified form in the custom folder as a template.

It is not a standard html form that one usually finds as it appears that it contains extra script code either META or whatever type the FLmsg uses to launch it in a browser to be filled out with text by the person creating the message to be sent. Then when the send or publish button in the browser is pressed there is overhead packet info added to the message (plain text) so that the receiving station FLMsg knows which specific custom form template needs to be used to display the message received.

That is why both RX and TX stations have to have a copy of the template form file in their custom directories. The html form itself is not sent only the text throughput data and the linking data used to select the correct template for display

On 2020-12-17 12:55 p.m., Bob Dixon wrote:
Not sure I made myself clear.  We are not talking about any special forms.  We are talking only about the known forms, to both the agency person and flmsg.  So the ham receives a standard form in html,  filled in by the official.
We need to import that standard form into the same standard form in flmsg.  Or stated another way, just replace
the empty flmsg form with the imported filled-in form.

Bob W8ERD

On Dec 17, 2020, at 11:22 AM, KB3YCK <kb3yck@...> wrote:

On Dave’s website for flmsg, there are instructions for building a custom HTM form.  The setup is a bit different
from taking something else that “looks and smells” like HTML, which may actually not be 100% simple HTML.
Many forms and programs that use them require imbedded Java (or other language) scripts to perform data 
validations, dynamically alter selection choices in a menu, and a host of other capabilities.

Building a “universal translator” for the myriad of front-end tools that create HTML today would be a formidable
task, not to mention the potential system resource requirements to make that work both fast and easy.

So — yes you can generate custom forms, and many have tried and succeeded.  However, a one-sized fits
all approach isn’t practical (my view).

Last point — as ARES operators, our role is to deliver a message from a served agency to wherever they
need it to go.  The tools we use, the methods we use, and whether we do it by voice or digital will often
require a “game-day” decision.  The important part is that we CAN deliver the message with the correct content
to the desired destination.  Voice may be the most challenging method, but you cannot rely 100% on digital methods
either.  Sometimes, although we have our amateur radios and computers, delivering a message might work best in-person by
walking or driving it from A to B, using a landline phone or fax machine, or even a public service radio we’re handed to
complete the task of delivering it.  Just because we have the neat whizzy tools doesn’t always mean those are the 
only tools at our disposal.  We do whatever we need to get the message through using whatever means we have available.

Regards,

David L Flad / KB3YCK

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Re: Getting HTML file into flmsg

Andy_VE4PER
 

I went through this a while back. In the end I had to copy and modify and existing html template form from the .nbems custom forms folder then save that modified form in the custom folder as a template.

It is not a standard html form that one usually finds as it appears that it contains extra script code either META or whatever type the FLmsg uses to launch it in a browser to be filled out with text by the person creating the message to be sent. Then when the send or publish button in the browser is pressed there is overhead packet info added to the message (plain text) so that the receiving station FLMsg knows which specific custom form template needs to be used to display the message received.

That is why both RX and TX stations have to have a copy of the template form file in their custom directories. The html form itself is not sent only the text throughput data and the linking data used to select the correct template for display

On 2020-12-17 12:55 p.m., Bob Dixon wrote:
Not sure I made myself clear.  We are not talking about any special forms.  We are talking only about the known forms, to both the agency person and flmsg.  So the ham receives a standard form in html,  filled in by the official.
We need to import that standard form into the same standard form in flmsg.  Or stated another way, just replace
the empty flmsg form with the imported filled-in form.

Bob W8ERD

On Dec 17, 2020, at 11:22 AM, KB3YCK <kb3yck@...> wrote:

On Dave’s website for flmsg, there are instructions for building a custom HTM form.  The setup is a bit different
from taking something else that “looks and smells” like HTML, which may actually not be 100% simple HTML.
Many forms and programs that use them require imbedded Java (or other language) scripts to perform data 
validations, dynamically alter selection choices in a menu, and a host of other capabilities.

Building a “universal translator” for the myriad of front-end tools that create HTML today would be a formidable
task, not to mention the potential system resource requirements to make that work both fast and easy.

So — yes you can generate custom forms, and many have tried and succeeded.  However, a one-sized fits
all approach isn’t practical (my view).

Last point — as ARES operators, our role is to deliver a message from a served agency to wherever they
need it to go.  The tools we use, the methods we use, and whether we do it by voice or digital will often
require a “game-day” decision.  The important part is that we CAN deliver the message with the correct content
to the desired destination.  Voice may be the most challenging method, but you cannot rely 100% on digital methods
either.  Sometimes, although we have our amateur radios and computers, delivering a message might work best in-person by
walking or driving it from A to B, using a landline phone or fax machine, or even a public service radio we’re handed to
complete the task of delivering it.  Just because we have the neat whizzy tools doesn’t always mean those are the 
only tools at our disposal.  We do whatever we need to get the message through using whatever means we have available.

Regards,

David L Flad / KB3YCK

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Re: Getting HTML file into flmsg

Dave
 


Re: Getting HTML file into flmsg

Bob Dixon
 

Not sure I made myself clear.  We are not talking about any special forms.  We are talking only about the known forms, to both the agency person and flmsg.  So the ham receives a standard form in html,  filled in by the official.
We need to import that standard form into the same standard form in flmsg.  Or stated another way, just replace
the empty flmsg form with the imported filled-in form.

Bob W8ERD

On Dec 17, 2020, at 11:22 AM, KB3YCK <kb3yck@...> wrote:

On Dave’s website for flmsg, there are instructions for building a custom HTM form.  The setup is a bit different
from taking something else that “looks and smells” like HTML, which may actually not be 100% simple HTML.
Many forms and programs that use them require imbedded Java (or other language) scripts to perform data 
validations, dynamically alter selection choices in a menu, and a host of other capabilities.

Building a “universal translator” for the myriad of front-end tools that create HTML today would be a formidable
task, not to mention the potential system resource requirements to make that work both fast and easy.

So — yes you can generate custom forms, and many have tried and succeeded.  However, a one-sized fits
all approach isn’t practical (my view).

Last point — as ARES operators, our role is to deliver a message from a served agency to wherever they
need it to go.  The tools we use, the methods we use, and whether we do it by voice or digital will often
require a “game-day” decision.  The important part is that we CAN deliver the message with the correct content
to the desired destination.  Voice may be the most challenging method, but you cannot rely 100% on digital methods
either.  Sometimes, although we have our amateur radios and computers, delivering a message might work best in-person by
walking or driving it from A to B, using a landline phone or fax machine, or even a public service radio we’re handed to
complete the task of delivering it.  Just because we have the neat whizzy tools doesn’t always mean those are the 
only tools at our disposal.  We do whatever we need to get the message through using whatever means we have available.

Regards,

David L Flad / KB3YCK

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Re: Getting HTML file into flmsg

Jack Dellinger
 

We have been using fldigi/FLMsg for over 10 years now.  I’m in York Co Pa and we have been part of EMA, especially for out 2 Nuclear Power plant annual  Drills, as secondary comm all those years. EMA uses their version of an IS213.  We have away had to either use Voice (way to slow) to send msg OR transcribe the msg into FLMsg to send.  Sometimes EMA has someone assigned to type msg into FLMsg and we get the file.   If they know it’s going via Ham they just create msg in FLMsg.  It’s not the best solution but it’s much faster then voice. It just takes training.
Jack

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 10:38 AM Bob Dixon <w8erdbob@...> wrote:
Thanks much Jack.  See notes below.

Bob

On Dec 17, 2020, at 9:24 AM, Jack Dellinger <kc3jdjack@...> wrote:

There are two ‘easy’ methods I know about:
1.  Red Cross now installs FLMsg on their computers and their folks fill in the form and save to thumb drive and send the drive to Ham operator.

Since ham radio message transmission is small part of their total message transmissions it is unlikely we could convince our served agencies to change their procedure.
2. Old way.. Ham reads the html message and transcribes to flmsg. 

Slow and error prone, even if we use copy and paste

3. If you have the expertise you could write a program to read the HTML and it transcribes. 

Sorry we don’t. It would seem there must be a way to do this. Maybe if fldigi had an option to import an html file.

For no 1.  Red Cross has a group of custom forms it  uses in FLMsg. You can create custom forms if your EMA uses their own forms.
Jack KC3JD 

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 6:15 PM Bob Dixon <w8erdbob@...> wrote:
Situation - EMA official fills out a standard form on his PC, ad places it on a shared disk.
Ham radiop retrieves message from the disk. How does he get the html file into flmsg as a standard form?

Bob W8ERD






Re: Getting HTML file into flmsg

KB3YCK
 

On Dave’s website for flmsg, there are instructions for building a custom HTM form.  The setup is a bit different
from taking something else that “looks and smells” like HTML, which may actually not be 100% simple HTML.
Many forms and programs that use them require imbedded Java (or other language) scripts to perform data 
validations, dynamically alter selection choices in a menu, and a host of other capabilities.

Building a “universal translator” for the myriad of front-end tools that create HTML today would be a formidable
task, not to mention the potential system resource requirements to make that work both fast and easy.

So — yes you can generate custom forms, and many have tried and succeeded.  However, a one-sized fits
all approach isn’t practical (my view).

Last point — as ARES operators, our role is to deliver a message from a served agency to wherever they
need it to go.  The tools we use, the methods we use, and whether we do it by voice or digital will often
require a “game-day” decision.  The important part is that we CAN deliver the message with the correct content
to the desired destination.  Voice may be the most challenging method, but you cannot rely 100% on digital methods
either.  Sometimes, although we have our amateur radios and computers, delivering a message might work best in-person by
walking or driving it from A to B, using a landline phone or fax machine, or even a public service radio we’re handed to
complete the task of delivering it.  Just because we have the neat whizzy tools doesn’t always mean those are the 
only tools at our disposal.  We do whatever we need to get the message through using whatever means we have available.

Regards,

David L Flad / KB3YCK

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Re: Getting HTML file into flmsg

 

Check out the Flmsg online users manual. W1HKJ wrote a section on how to create custom forms. There's an example on how to create a simple HTML form document. Now you have to inspire someone in your organization to do a little bit of HTML coding. Attached is a form created from PDF files that someone created a while back during one of the Flu Pandemic drills.

73, Ron NY3J

On 12/17/20 10:38 AM, Bob Dixon wrote:
Thanks much Jack.  See notes below.

Bob

On Dec 17, 2020, at 9:24 AM, Jack Dellinger <kc3jdjack@...> wrote:

There are two ‘easy’ methods I know about:
1.  Red Cross now installs FLMsg on their computers and their folks fill in the form and save to thumb drive and send the drive to Ham operator.

Since ham radio message transmission is small part of their total message transmissions it is unlikely we could convince our served agencies to change their procedure.
2. Old way.. Ham reads the html message and transcribes to flmsg. 

Slow and error prone, even if we use copy and paste

3. If you have the expertise you could write a program to read the HTML and it transcribes. 

Sorry we don’t. It would seem there must be a way to do this. Maybe if fldigi had an option to import an html file.

For no 1.  Red Cross has a group of custom forms it  uses in FLMsg. You can create custom forms if your EMA uses their own forms.
Jack KC3JD 

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 6:15 PM Bob Dixon <w8erdbob@...> wrote:
Situation - EMA official fills out a standard form on his PC, ad places it on a shared disk.
Ham radiop retrieves message from the disk. How does he get the html file into flmsg as a standard form?

Bob W8ERD







Re: Getting HTML file into flmsg

Bob Dixon
 

Thanks much Jack.  See notes below.

Bob

On Dec 17, 2020, at 9:24 AM, Jack Dellinger <kc3jdjack@...> wrote:

There are two ‘easy’ methods I know about:
1.  Red Cross now installs FLMsg on their computers and their folks fill in the form and save to thumb drive and send the drive to Ham operator.

Since ham radio message transmission is small part of their total message transmissions it is unlikely we could convince our served agencies to change their procedure.
2. Old way.. Ham reads the html message and transcribes to flmsg. 

Slow and error prone, even if we use copy and paste

3. If you have the expertise you could write a program to read the HTML and it transcribes. 

Sorry we don’t. It would seem there must be a way to do this. Maybe if fldigi had an option to import an html file.

For no 1.  Red Cross has a group of custom forms it  uses in FLMsg. You can create custom forms if your EMA uses their own forms.
Jack KC3JD 

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 6:15 PM Bob Dixon <w8erdbob@...> wrote:
Situation - EMA official fills out a standard form on his PC, ad places it on a shared disk.
Ham radiop retrieves message from the disk. How does he get the html file into flmsg as a standard form?

Bob W8ERD






Re: Getting HTML file into flmsg

Jack Dellinger
 

There are two ‘easy’ methods I know about:
1.  Red Cross now installs FLMsg on their computers and their folks fill in the form and save to thumb drive and send the drive to Ham operator.
2. Old way.. Ham reads the html message and transcribes to flmsg. 
3. If you have the expertise you could write a program to read the HTML and it transcribes. 
For no 1.  Red Cross has a group of custom forms it  uses in FLMsg. You can create custom forms if your EMA uses their own forms.
Jack KC3JD 

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 6:15 PM Bob Dixon <w8erdbob@...> wrote:
Situation - EMA official fills out a standard form on his PC, ad places it on a shared disk.
Ham radiop retrieves message from the disk. How does he get the html file into flmsg as a standard form?

Bob W8ERD




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