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Re: Weather Form
Bruce, my email is aj5bs@... James B Stafford
On Thursday, December 5, 2019, 7:24:35 AM CST, BruceN <k4tql@...> wrote:
George N1GB, James AJ5BS,Michael WA7SKG,Ron NY3J Gentlemen, I would like to share the info and data you presented here in my AFMARS 4th Communications Wing Newsletter, properly credited, of course, to share with my MARS compatriots. If there is no objection, I will share in this weekend's Newsletter. It does go national but only to MARS members. I'll share a copy if you will provide me with email addresses to which to send it. Bruce, K4TQL
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Ron, I understand, I spoke with Greg at WINLINK, his statement was "Of course, anyone can take any winlink form and modify it for their use.
We are all volunteers supporting emergency communications." AL M KF5SMH
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Re: Problem with WX report section
Thanks Dave,
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Yep, it did correct the URL without the S. I always knew Fldigi was smarter than I was HIHI. 73, Ron NY3J
On 12/5/2019 12:21 PM, Dave wrote:
The URL is an https site but if you omit the 's' fldigi will correct the URL before sending the inquiry.
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Re: Problem with WX report section
The URL is an https site but if you omit the 's' fldigi will correct
the URL before sending the inquiry.
https://tgftp.nws.noaa.gov/data/observations/metar/decoded/ is the default on the current distribution version of fldigi. Dave
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Re: Problem with WX report section
Ralph,
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There was a change in the WX URL. Here's a screen shot of my setup. Then change the station ID code to what you want. 73, Ron NY3J
On 12/5/2019 11:37 AM, Ralph Alden
Brigham wrote:
Greetings All, Semi-dumb query - how do I get FLdigi to produce a METARS report for a local airfield? I can not get the proper URL to stay in the XML file for FLdigi. Also the default URL report is over three years out of date. Dave, I am trying to get KHSV, KHUA, and KMDQ to show up - help. PS. Army MARS -- ***** --- Ralph Brigham KG4CSQ -- EM64RQ2OOQ W5YI VE 33080; ARRL VE ARRL #1000033463 ARES/RACES SKYWARN (931) 906-9277 -- ****
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Re: Problem with WX report section
or if the macro is <WX> In either case the access URL must be as shown above. Dave
On 12/5/19 10:37 AM, Ralph Alden
Brigham wrote:
Greetings All, Semi-dumb query - how do I get FLdigi to produce a METARS report for a local airfield? I can not get the proper URL to stay in the XML file for FLdigi. Also the default URL report is over three years out of date. Dave, I am trying to get KHSV, KHUA, and KMDQ to show up - help. PS. Army MARS -- ***** --- Ralph Brigham KG4CSQ -- EM64RQ2OOQ W5YI VE 33080; ARRL VE ARRL #1000033463 ARES/RACES SKYWARN (931) 906-9277 -- ****
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Problem with WX report section
Greetings All,
Semi-dumb query - how do I get FLdigi to produce a METARS report for a local airfield? I can not get the proper URL to stay in the XML file for FLdigi. Also the default URL report is over three years out of date. Dave, I am trying to get KHSV, KHUA, and KMDQ to show up - help. PS. Army MARS -- ***** --- Ralph Brigham KG4CSQ -- EM64RQ2OOQ W5YI VE 33080; ARRL VE ARRL #1000033463 ARES/RACES SKYWARN (931) 906-9277 -- ****
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Re: Weather Form
Ron, as the originator of this form I might suggest that you contact the WINLINK folks and get them to weigh in on copying this. Just my thoughts, as far as I am concerned I am honored you find it useful.
AL M KF5SMH
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Re: Weather Form
Ryan Tourge, N2YQT
You can also grab weather reports from winlink.
On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 9:00 AM George Blakeslee <george.blakeslee@...> wrote:
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Re: Weather Form
George Blakeslee
Re: the event that the internet is down, try this nifty METAR freeware decoding/saving/diglaying tool from NirSoft.net MetarWeather v1.76 - METAR decoder Copyright (c) 2003 - 2018 Nir Sofer The tool will accept METAR data manually (if you have to copy off the air), or text file (for multiple data METAR data strings), or internet (if it is available). The decode can be saved. The decode can be displayed in a variety of formats. I like the Vertical HTML which can be cut-and-pasted into a NBEMS Plaintext message. 73 George N1GB
On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 8:24 AM BruceN <k4tql@...> wrote: George N1GB, James AJ5BS,Michael WA7SKG,Ron NY3J --
George Blakeslee
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George Blakeslee
Hi Bruce Yes, you may share my information and data. I would be interested in seeing the newsletter. I sent you a pm from my email address to which you may reply. 73 George N1GB
On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 8:24 AM BruceN <k4tql@...> wrote: George N1GB, James AJ5BS,Michael WA7SKG,Ron NY3J --
George Blakeslee
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Hi Bruce,
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I would be interested in the copy of the Newsletter. My email is ny3j at arrl.net. The conversation about the METAR data was quite informative. Designing a custom Flmsg form to use this data and send it out with Fldigi would be very handy. 73, Ron NY3J
On 12/5/2019 8:24 AM, BruceN wrote:
George N1GB, James AJ5BS,Michael WA7SKG,Ron NY3J
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Re: Weather Form
BruceN
George N1GB, James AJ5BS,Michael WA7SKG,Ron NY3J
Gentlemen, I would like to share the info and data you presented here in my AFMARS 4th Communications Wing Newsletter, properly credited, of course, to share with my MARS compatriots. If there is no objection, I will share in this weekend's Newsletter. It does go national but only to MARS members. I'll share a copy if you will provide me with email addresses to which to send it. Bruce, K4TQL
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Re: Weather Form
JP
To your point, there can be some significant variance at ground level between locations in different parts of ANY county. And the topography does not have to be all that diverse to have significant differences - especially during bad weather. It's not uncommon, for example, to see widely (and wildly) different conditions between NYC's Kennedy airport and LaGuardia Airport even though they are only 10 miles from each other.
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JP
Thank you James - an excellent point.
For the recent MARS exercise (COMEX), there was supposed to be a requirement that amateurs not use the internet to obtain the weather reports, but rather to either (a) catch the information over the air from the weather broadcasts transmitted by the airports, or (b) visit the airport and get the weather information in person (for purposes of the exercise, it was considered acceptable to get the recorded report by telephone if you were no more than 25 miles from the airport so that people didn't actually have to get in their cars and drive). I can't guarantee that the requirement was communicated in all parts of the country, or that it was honored in all parts of the country, but it was both communicated and honored in Connecticut. I wrote up a little document describing how to listen to and interpret airport weather reports given in voice (over the air or by phone) and how to keep an active list of airport weather observation frequencies and phone numbers. It's at http://www.ctares.org/files/Providing_A_Weather_Observation_To_MARS.pdf. I personally update my list of phone numbers and frequencies for CT about once a month so that I have it in case of loss of internet communications. 73 Jon, AI1V
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Re: Weather Form
Need to consider that some of the past/existing aviation resources are being scaled back, stopped, consolidated, or replaced.
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I’ve seen a number of FAA bulletins published in the past year regarding the above. Our view in Chester County is all about ground truth observations. When the topography is diverse, there can be some significant variance at ground level between locations in different parts of the County. We are operating County-purchased weather stations (Davis Vantage Pro) at our QTH’s to ensure similar capabilities and data accuracy between operators and locations. It does require operators to maintain their stations and monitor for data issues. We are also having Davis refurbish stations a few at a time to get latest electronics and sensors replaced/re-calibrated too. Regards, David Flad. /. KB3YCK Emergency Coordinator Chester County ARES/RACES
On Dec 4, 2019, at 12:21, Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@wa7skg.com> wrote:
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Re: Weather Form
Many airports have automated weather bulletins broadcast continuously over VHF aircraft frequencies. A quick scan of 118-130 MHz AM will typically find one if you are within 20 miles or so of an airport. (You DO have a scanner in your emergency equipment, don't you?) Also, many of them have have a phone line connected to dial up and get the data. Check sites like airnav.com for the data on airports near you. You should print these data sheets for each airport in your operational vicinity and keep them in your GSTK binder. While not as far reaching as NOAA weather radio, local aviation weather is immediate, up to date, and accurate for your local vicinity. In your emergency plan, I would try to identify someone within reception range of local AWOS/ASOS stations and have them prepare to provide weather data into your system. Lacking that, prepare to dispatch someone to a location that can receive the broadcasts for relay.
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BTW, the WXmacro in fldigi looks up the METAR data from NOAA for the specified airport and presents it in human readable format. Of course, not useful in a no Internet situation, but it does give you an idea of how the standard METAR data string is decoded. This is the format many agencies would be looking for My EMCOMM Philosophy: Plan, Prepare, Train, Practice. EMCOMM is just like the NFL, without the drama. You must join the team, get your equipment, learn the plays, and attend all practices. Don't try to walk in unknown with your bicycle helmet and Nerf football and expect them to let you play in the Super Bowl. Michael WA7SKG James Stafford AJ5BS wrote on 12/4/19 3:41 AM:
The website is great IF you have the internet available. However, NBEMS is based on normal communications channels being unavailable, which in my perspective, would rule out the availability of the internet during an actual NBEMS usage. Therefore, it behooves us to learn to listen to and decipher the transmissions from the radio, and how to produce a METAR report for transmission in fldigi.
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The website is great IF you have the internet available. However, NBEMS is based on normal communications channels being unavailable, which in my perspective, would rule out the availability of the internet during an actual NBEMS usage. Therefore, it behooves us to learn to listen to and decipher the transmissions from the radio, and how to produce a METAR report for transmission in fldigi. James B Stafford AJ5BS
On Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 5:26:18 AM CST, George Blakeslee <george.blakeslee@...> wrote:
Not sure if this site has been shared. You can get decoded METAR data here at bottom of page, put in local airport ID and choose Decoded,then click Get METAR data You will get 73 George N1GB On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 11:29 PM Al Szymanski via Groups.Io <aszy=mac.com@groups.io> wrote: Oops : here's the link : https://www.la.utexas.edu/users/kimmel/GRG301K/grg301kmetars.html George Blakeslee
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Re: Weather Form
George Blakeslee
Not sure if this site has been shared. You can get decoded METAR data here at bottom of page, put in local airport ID and choose Decoded,then click Get METAR data You will get 73 George N1GB
On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 11:29 PM Al Szymanski via Groups.Io <aszy=mac.com@groups.io> wrote: Oops : here's the link : https://www.la.utexas.edu/users/kimmel/GRG301K/grg301kmetars.html --
George Blakeslee
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