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Re: %20flmsg%204.0.10%20%26%20American%20Red%20Cross

B Anderson
 

David

That matches with what I read on the FEMA DA Handbook

Do you know if PA uses the FEMA IA Street Sheet?

In any case, the FEMA IA Street Sheet should be accepted by most agencies.

Bryce


On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 6:14 AM david flad <kb3yck@...> wrote:
At least here in PA ( a Commonwealth state), damage assessments are done locally, at the County Level, and at the State level depending on scope and severity.  Who does the assessment is primarily the responsibility of someone in emergency management.

This is based on accountability to the community and for resource and impact assessments for disaster declarations and such that trigger state and federal funding for response and recovery activities.

Regards,

David Flad / KB3YCK 
Emergency Coordinator 
Chester County ARES/RACES, Pennsylvania

Municipal Emergency Management Coordinator
New London Township, PA

On Jun 20, 2019, at 19:57, B Anderson <Bryce2001@...> wrote:

Jim

Thanks for that info.

Are you suggesting the FEMA IA Street Sheet should replace it?

Is there anyone that can speak to the damage assessment that is taking place in the large areas of the country that are dealing with flooding?
Which groups/agencies are doing the assessments?
What forms are they using?

Bryce

On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:13 PM <n6med@...> wrote:
Mr. Anderson -

If by Sayer you mean the Sayre Fire (aka Sylmar Fire)  in 2008, I suspect things might have changed significantly since then, I've been deploying on the big fires we've been having up here in NorCal and the Red Cross, to the best of my knowledge, has not been deploying any teams, Red Cross or Event Based Volunteers (EBVs) to assess damage. Rather that appears to be firmly in the hands of CalFire and FEMA now (clearly the case for the Carr and Camp Fires).

In direct conversation with and idea solicitation of the prime movers in our region (i.e., Disaster Program Managers), the forms/templates/whatever anyone wants to call them now in the flmsg library represent the information that would be authored by Red Cross personnel and have to be communicated between a service site and the Disaster Operations Center.

Jim / n6med
Red Cross  registered volunteer



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K 6 TI

flmsg / ARC forms

Dave
 

The internal ARC forms were removed because they are obsolete.

I defer to all decisions regarding flmsg/ARC requirements to:



Jim participates in this forum.  Please coordinate your specific area requirements with him.

Some participants in a recent ARC drill sponsored by ARRL/ARC were using these obsolete forms.  That prompted the internal form removal and the recent update to flmsg.

ARC members maintain the flmsg authorized ARC custom forms.  For the ARC convenience I store those forms on Source Forge and my personal web site.  I do not manage the form content or design.  Access to those forms for download is made easy by the internal ARC forms selection being replaced by a browser link to the forms stored either on Source Forge or my personal web site, http://www.w1hkj.com/files/flmsg/templates/.  Please do not add to the confusion by telling the list that templates and custom forms are not the same.  I am aware of that distinction.  A future release will place the ARC custom forms in it's own unique directory at both web locations.

73, David, W1HKJ
flmsg developer

Re: %20flmsg%204.0.10%20%26%20American%20Red%20Cross

KB3YCK
 

At least here in PA ( a Commonwealth state), damage assessments are done locally, at the County Level, and at the State level depending on scope and severity.  Who does the assessment is primarily the responsibility of someone in emergency management.

This is based on accountability to the community and for resource and impact assessments for disaster declarations and such that trigger state and federal funding for response and recovery activities.

Regards,

David Flad / KB3YCK 
Emergency Coordinator 
Chester County ARES/RACES, Pennsylvania

Municipal Emergency Management Coordinator
New London Township, PA

On Jun 20, 2019, at 19:57, B Anderson <Bryce2001@...> wrote:

Jim

Thanks for that info.

Are you suggesting the FEMA IA Street Sheet should replace it?

Is there anyone that can speak to the damage assessment that is taking place in the large areas of the country that are dealing with flooding?
Which groups/agencies are doing the assessments?
What forms are they using?

Bryce

On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:13 PM <n6med@...> wrote:
Mr. Anderson -

If by Sayer you mean the Sayre Fire (aka Sylmar Fire)  in 2008, I suspect things might have changed significantly since then, I've been deploying on the big fires we've been having up here in NorCal and the Red Cross, to the best of my knowledge, has not been deploying any teams, Red Cross or Event Based Volunteers (EBVs) to assess damage. Rather that appears to be firmly in the hands of CalFire and FEMA now (clearly the case for the Carr and Camp Fires).

In direct conversation with and idea solicitation of the prime movers in our region (i.e., Disaster Program Managers), the forms/templates/whatever anyone wants to call them now in the flmsg library represent the information that would be authored by Red Cross personnel and have to be communicated between a service site and the Disaster Operations Center.

Jim / n6med
Red Cross  registered volunteer



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B Anderson
K 6 TI

Re: %20flmsg%204.0.10%20&%20American%20Red%20Cross

KB3YCK
 

Dave generally follows the latest, current guidance on this sort of thing, and in the release notes, it was mentioned INTERNAL ARC forms were removed. This suggests perhaps that is why things might have done — they are not intended for general use or have been replaced/removed from actual use.

Amateur radio operators responding as ARES volunteers would be expected to take information from specific sources and relay to their respective served agency(ies). In the fire/ disaster scenario, this would likely be the local, regional, state or federal emergency management team(s).

No matter what the situation, as an individual ARC volunteer, you could choose to get the forms you are “allowed/expected” to complete from the ARC directly, amd manage them as part of your own specific setup. It’s one of the reasons the custom forms capability is provided in flmsg. It avoids the need to manage/maintain/track evey possible form used by the many different served agencies out there.

Regards,

David Flad / KB3YCK
Emergency Coordinator
Chester County ARES/RACES

Re: %20flmsg%204.0.10%20%26%20American%20Red%20Cross

n6med@...
 

I can't say re FEMA's work sheet nor what other agencies are involved in other states. Through recent experience I can only speak to what's happening here in CA. CalFire is using its personnel with boots-on-the-ground to survey damage and record the Lat and Long of eye-balled damage and destruction then transferring the data to street maps it posts on-line. When clients come to us (and other ngo's) for help, we verify that they have/had a residence that was destroyed.

For answers as to who is doing what in the area of disasters (e.g., the flooding you mentioned), I think the best source would be the OES for affected county(ies) and state. That's where the responsibility starts.

When I responded a couple of years ago to the Sabine R. flooding in south TX, the local JP declared what areas were "totally destroyed." So, we went accordingly with the addresses in the zone/area he declared.

I'm guarded re what might be included something like flmsg (or Winlink). We, the ARC, has a data base known as "The Exchange" that is a compendium of everything from sop to nuts for disaster response, including forms and worksheets. For example, there is the Safe and Well individual registration form that can be filled out either directly by a client or with the help of an ARC volunteer. Then there is the Safe and Well "Helper" Excel spreadsheet for compiling registrants and forwarding upstairs for posting to the S&W web site. (Recall if you were solicited by the ARRL to go to Hurricane Maria/Puerto Rico to forward this spreadsheet.)

Hope that helps.
-- Jim

Re: %20flmsg%204.0.10%20%26%20American%20Red%20Cross

B Anderson
 

Jim

Thanks for that info.

Are you suggesting the FEMA IA Street Sheet should replace it?

Is there anyone that can speak to the damage assessment that is taking place in the large areas of the country that are dealing with flooding?
Which groups/agencies are doing the assessments?
What forms are they using?

Bryce


On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:13 PM <n6med@...> wrote:
Mr. Anderson -

If by Sayer you mean the Sayre Fire (aka Sylmar Fire)  in 2008, I suspect things might have changed significantly since then, I've been deploying on the big fires we've been having up here in NorCal and the Red Cross, to the best of my knowledge, has not been deploying any teams, Red Cross or Event Based Volunteers (EBVs) to assess damage. Rather that appears to be firmly in the hands of CalFire and FEMA now (clearly the case for the Carr and Camp Fires).

In direct conversation with and idea solicitation of the prime movers in our region (i.e., Disaster Program Managers), the forms/templates/whatever anyone wants to call them now in the flmsg library represent the information that would be authored by Red Cross personnel and have to be communicated between a service site and the Disaster Operations Center.

Jim / n6med
Red Cross  registered volunteer



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B Anderson
K 6 TI

Re: %20flmsg%204.0.10%20%26%20American%20Red%20Cross

n6med@...
 

Mr. Anderson -

If by Sayer you mean the Sayre Fire (aka Sylmar Fire)  in 2008, I suspect things might have changed significantly since then, I've been deploying on the big fires we've been having up here in NorCal and the Red Cross, to the best of my knowledge, has not been deploying any teams, Red Cross or Event Based Volunteers (EBVs) to assess damage. Rather that appears to be firmly in the hands of CalFire and FEMA now (clearly the case for the Carr and Camp Fires).

In direct conversation with and idea solicitation of the prime movers in our region (i.e., Disaster Program Managers), the forms/templates/whatever anyone wants to call them now in the flmsg library represent the information that would be authored by Red Cross personnel and have to be communicated between a service site and the Disaster Operations Center.

Jim / n6med
Red Cross  registered volunteer

Re: %20flmsg%204.0.10%20%26%20American%20Red%20Cross

B Anderson
 

My 2 cents

I would recommend keeping it

#1 Is there any "cost" in terms of space or functionality keeping it? 
     If not, why not keep it

#2 I was taught "First In / First Out" when responses are being allocated, and that includes insurance claims
    
After the Sayer Fire, one of our team was sent by ARC to assess the damage
There was so little left it was difficult or impossible to know the address
This is the form he used

He did not need to use NBEMS as the surrounding infrastructure had not been compromised

After a major earthquake, the ARC Form 5739 will probably be the best way to share detailed/granular information that can be tabulated

On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 2:58 PM John Lemmer W6FQX <w6fqx@...> wrote:
Removal of ARC Form 5739 from the current version of flmsg (4.0.10) should be reconsidered.  In my opinion, this is the format in which the magnitude of the disaster is first assessed and ham radio operators may be first on the scene well before a Red Cross shelter operation is commenced.  There have been some changes made to Form 5739 over the years although the essential information is basically the same.
 
The new forms to be downloaded are applicable primarily to shelter operations.  I noticed these forms were coded in html4 which precludes the pop-up date calendar and time selector in html5 as well as other format input types.  I also noticed that some forms contain selection boxes which were incorrectly coded as checkboxes and not as radio buttons in which only one of a set could be selected.
 
Although Dave does indicate that the new html forms are CUSTOM forms with the correct folder location, the other information, including the zip file, calls them templates -- which is incorrect.  I believe that true templates would be called up from a Plaintext form selection while the html forms would be called up from a CUSTOM form selection.
 
Incidentally it is only necessary to download the zip file, not each form individually.
 
The old "Welfare" form is essentially the "Safe and Well" form in the new custom set but neither one directly addresses the Red Cross Safe and Well internet entry.  I would hope that there would be some way that a html delivery of the Safe and Well form could be directly transferred to the Red Cross internet site and not require retyping all the same information.  I do not have the knowledge to do this.
 
73,
John Lemmer, W6FQX
ARC Volunteer



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K 6 TI

Re: %20flmsg%204.0.10%20%26%20American%20Red%20Cross

 

Removal of ARC Form 5739 from the current version of flmsg (4.0.10) should be reconsidered.  In my opinion, this is the format in which the magnitude of the disaster is first assessed and ham radio operators may be first on the scene well before a Red Cross shelter operation is commenced.  There have been some changes made to Form 5739 over the years although the essential information is basically the same.
 
The new forms to be downloaded are applicable primarily to shelter operations.  I noticed these forms were coded in html4 which precludes the pop-up date calendar and time selector in html5 as well as other format input types.  I also noticed that some forms contain selection boxes which were incorrectly coded as checkboxes and not as radio buttons in which only one of a set could be selected.
 
Although Dave does indicate that the new html forms are CUSTOM forms with the correct folder location, the other information, including the zip file, calls them templates -- which is incorrect.  I believe that true templates would be called up from a Plaintext form selection while the html forms would be called up from a CUSTOM form selection.
 
Incidentally it is only necessary to download the zip file, not each form individually.
 
The old "Welfare" form is essentially the "Safe and Well" form in the new custom set but neither one directly addresses the Red Cross Safe and Well internet entry.  I would hope that there would be some way that a html delivery of the Safe and Well form could be directly transferred to the Red Cross internet site and not require retyping all the same information.  I do not have the knowledge to do this.
 
73,
John Lemmer, W6FQX
ARC Volunteer

Re: fldigi, no transmit. flrig no connection Raspberry Pi 3B+

Ken K
 

I found the problem.   In flrig under PTT it should have been configured to NONE. Instead
I had the USB to TTL interfaced selected. This must have happened in my attempt to get things going again when
I combined it with fldigi.  I have not brought up fldigi to see how it works with it and since I am only interested in
voice right now I won't confuse matters worst.  I am interested in knowing does fldigi allow for PTT
or are you expected to use VOX and it just passes audio from a modem device??

I thought about deleting this post but maybe someone can learn from it.  I certainly did!

Now to learn about mumble using a cheap USB sound dongle for TX and RX audio.
Ken

fldigi, no transmit. flrig no connection Raspberry Pi 3B+

Ken K
 

I need some help making both of these programs work with my Raspberry Pi 3B+
Radio: IC-746 (This radio has Cat Command for Transmit)
My preference would be flrig. I am interested in a remote internet station.
I ran one for many years in Windows with skype for audio, HamRadioDeluxe
for rig control and either Teamviwer or VNC to control a laptop with HamRadioDeluxe.

The only partial success I have had is with fldigi using RigCat, ic-746.xml file.
Hamlib did not work. I did get erratic jumping of the fldigi display. Tried several combos of RTS/DTR, no luck.
Using ic-746.xml  lets me control the radio but NO transmit capabilities.  I am not using
it for digital modes my long term goal is to make a remote internet station
similar to the new RigPi.

I have tried flrig.  The very first time I tried it I had control of the radio as well as transmit.
I later found a setting in fldigi that allows flrig to take control of fldigi.  That actually
worked and now I could get transmit from either clicking the TX button on fldigi or the PTT
on flrig. 

The next day I started using mumble for voip.  After finally having some success
I opened flrig and fldigi and noticed I was back to square one. I did do a SAVE when it was working.
The only workable condition is using just fldigi with ic746 .xml with NO transmit capabilities.
flrig other than opening the program does nothing.  

I have had no luck with the manuals for flrig or fldigi.
flrig 1.3.26
fldigi 3.23.14

I have little Linux experience other than following known workable step by steps.
I used synatpic package installer which has worked on other programs so far.
I always do an update and upgrade prior to installing anything new in the terminal
mode.  

I have used HamRadioDeluxe in Windows for years and I am familiar with terms like RTS,DTR
com ports in Windows as well as PTT requirements when using a serial port for PTT.
My ic-746 using the CAT command for TX works.  This is the reason I wanted to use the IC-746
to simplify the install (NO PTT add on circuit needed)
My interface is a USB to TTL for icom. It does work with fldig since I can change frequency
modes, just NO transmit. 

Could use a little guidance with this.
Thanks,
Ken

flmsg 4.0.10 & American Red Cross

Dave
 

Posted 4.0.10 to http://www.w1hkj.com
and Source Forge.

Version 4.0.10
    * Maintenance release

  ARC forms
    * Removed internal ARC forms
    * Added dialog with link to downloadable ARC custom forms

Custom forms for ARC can be downloaded from http://www.w1hkj.com
and Source Forge.

Custom forms should be downloaded and moved to the local folder:
Op' Sys'
folder
Linux
~/.nbems/CUSTOM
OS-X
~/.nbems/CUSTOM
Win 7/8/10
C:\User\<login>\nbems.files\CUSTOM\
73, David, W1HKJ

fldigi 4.1.04 posted

Dave
 

To Source Forge, and to http://www.w1hkj.com

Version 4.1.04

  MacOS high-DPI
    * enable high-DPI on macOS and Microphone on macOS 10.14
      - enable highDPI on retina display
      - request microphone usage on macOS 10.14 (mojave)

  timeops
    * fix for OS-X Xcode < 7.2

  log server
    * add debug statements to track access to remote log server

  xmlrpc <vector>
   * fix for zero length byte vector instantiation on Fedora global build

  LoTW delivery
    * Change to testing for LoTW delivery status

  Apple kill button
    * force coordinated shutdown for command-Q, red-X decoration button,
      or File/Exit process

  main dialog title
    * force Windows to update window title when connecting to ACL

  Contestia/Olivia
    * Add contestia submodes to contestia modem type
      - needed to enable rsid contestia submode detection
    * Add missing submodes to Olivia

  Warnings
    * correct warnings discovered by newer 64 bit compiler

  Log reports
    * correct output formatting of text and csv reports

  Documentation update
    * update contest section

  7qp multi
    * Parse multi state/county report strings

  n3fjp
    * restore named digital modes to MODE entry passed to loggers.
    * restore ALC compatible controls
      CALL, FREQ, BAND, MODE, NAME, QTH, STATE/PROVINCE,
      COUNTRY, GRID, POWER, COMMENTS, DATE, TIME-ON, TIME-OFF

  wfonly controls
    * correct control positioning
    * allow visibility of Rev, Store, Lock controls

  Read log debugging
    * Added event logging statements to the read log file function.

  New Modem Macro
    * Add wait for modem change to the execute method pMODEM(...)

  DE QSO Party
    * Add Delawre QSO party to configurable contests

73, David, W1HKJ


dead bands

Dave
 

Only if you listen and never call.  I just completed two very nice QSO's on 40 meters, PSK-31 and THROB-4 (nice to listen to).  I am in North Alabama, and the PSK-31 was with a North Illinois station.  The THROB was with a North Carolina station on the Atlantic.  I'm still on and calling CQ in various modes.  Be sure to enable RxID.

73, David, W1HKJ

flmsg 4.0.9 release

Dave
 

Pushed to Source Forge repository.

Posted to Source Forge, and http://www.w1hkj.com/files/flmsg/

Changes include:

Version 4.0.9
    * Maintenance release
      - timeops Davide Gerhard
      - MacOS high-DPI
      - ICS 309
      - xmlrpc/arq
      - Correct gcc 9 pedantic warnings

  timeops
    * fix for OS-X Xcode < 7.2

  MacOS high-DPI
    * enable high-DPI rendering

  ICS 309
    * add to save_as callback function

  xmlrpc/arq
    * Modify xmlrpc/arq loop operation

  Correct gcc 9 pedantic warnings

73, David, W1HKJ

MinGW Runtime Assertion on fldigi 4.1.03

Al Duncan VE3RRD
 

Was using fldigi 4.0.16 on my Windows 7 Pro 32 bit laptop which worked very well. Installed latest version 4.1.03, but when I run it I get the following error. If I click Ignore a couple of times the program seems to run OK.
AL  VE3RRD

Re: flrig 1.3.45.09 posted

Dave
 

Selecting the 706MKIIG and changing the CI-V address to 0x48 should work OK.  The 706 and 706MKIIG CAT command set is identical.

David

On 6/15/19 8:29 AM, Marty Hartwell wrote:
Hi Bruce

I just looked at my version of Flrig, not the one posted here, and see the IC706MKII shown, have you tried

to use that configuration to see if it will work with the IC706. Or if  you have a manual you may be able to

find the area of the source could where the 706 is and using the 706MKII manual adjust the communication

and recompile.


Just a thought.


Marty kd8bj


On 6/15/19 8:15 AM, BruceN wrote:
Will flrig ever use the XML rig description files that fldigi uses.  I have an Icom 706
that is not recognized by flrig but is by fldigi.  Puts a crimp my operating with the 706.

Bruce, K4TQL






Re: flrig 1.3.45.09 posted

Marty Hartwell
 

Hi Bruce

I just looked at my version of Flrig, not the one posted here, and see the IC706MKII shown, have you tried

to use that configuration to see if it will work with the IC706. Or if  you have a manual you may be able to

find the area of the source could where the 706 is and using the 706MKII manual adjust the communication

and recompile.


Just a thought.


Marty kd8bj

On 6/15/19 8:15 AM, BruceN wrote:
Will flrig ever use the XML rig description files that fldigi uses.  I have an Icom 706
that is not recognized by flrig but is by fldigi.  Puts a crimp my operating with the 706.

Bruce, K4TQL

Re: flrig 1.3.45.09 posted

BruceN
 

Will flrig ever use the XML rig description files that fldigi uses.  I have an Icom 706
that is not recognized by flrig but is by fldigi.  Puts a crimp my operating with the 706.

Bruce, K4TQL

flrig 1.3.45.10 posted

Dave
 

Update to the TS-870S transceiver class method; get_split().  Courtesty of Dave, G8KBV.

73, David, W1HKJ