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Re: CW Interface

Dave
 

I've tested the K3NG sketch in my MORTTY with the echo test code removed from fldigi.   Works equally well with the original WinKeyer and the MORTTY with the K3NG sketch.  You can test for yourself using this alpha version:

which contains these changes from fldigi version 4.1.02 released yesterday.

    Fake WinKeyer
   
      * Disable WinKey Admin echo test.
        - K3NG Arduino sketch fails tests as implemented
          in the MORTTY interface

    MACRO <MODEM:
   
      * Add code to correctly recognize OLIVIA submodes

73, David, W1HKJ


RXID on FLDIGI

John Wilson
 

Looking at variations of digital modes that are out there, it can become very overwhelming to identify them and identifying them off the cuff is difficult when several modes show very similar characteristics in their pattern.

As I understand it, in FLIDIGI, with RXID on, it should display what mode is being transmitted for the modes checked on the ID tab in settings but as I put the bandwidth window on the signal, I don't always see the particular mode being transmitted. Rarely, if ever.

Is that because of poor reception or because the transmitted signal isn't providing the mode within its own transmission?

Re: RXID on FLDIGI

Al Massaro
 

John the RSID will change your RX mode for you, it will display a before RSID message for you only when it is received. Got to the user interface setup under ID to setup how you would like it to display and react.
AL M
KF5SMH

Re: RXID on FLDIGI

John Wilson
 

Al,

All the above... just intermittent in its identification. May not be letting it sit long enough to identify. I'll keep tinkering with it and see what happens.

Thanks for the reply.

73
John



On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 2:27 PM Al Massaro <almassaro@q.com> wrote:
John the RSID will change your RX mode for you, it will display a before RSID message for you only when it is received. Got to the user interface setup under ID to setup how you would like it to display and react.
AL M
KF5SMH

Re: RXID on FLDIGI

W2TLJ
 

Just a note, RXID does not work unless the transmitting station has TXID turned on. Normally I find this is the cause of the non identifying problem.

Tom W2TLJ

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 4:02 PM John Wilson <kc4lzn@...> wrote:
Al,

All the above... just intermittent in its identification. May not be letting it sit long enough to identify. I'll keep tinkering with it and see what happens.

Thanks for the reply.

73
John



On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 2:27 PM Al Massaro <almassaro@q.com> wrote:
John the RSID will change your RX mode for you, it will display a before RSID message for you only when it is received. Got to the user interface setup under ID to setup how you would like it to display and react.
AL M
KF5SMH

Re: RXID on FLDIGI

John Wilson
 

Thanks Tom and because of the sporadic display of the different modes is telling me just that. Stations that I'm seeing with the mode identification have that turned on where the ones I'm not, don't. 

Thanks for the input.

73 John


On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 4:49 PM W2TLJ <tjoneson@...> wrote:
Just a note, RXID does not work unless the transmitting station has TXID turned on. Normally I find this is the cause of the non identifying problem.

Tom W2TLJ

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 4:02 PM John Wilson <kc4lzn@...> wrote:
Al,

All the above... just intermittent in its identification. May not be letting it sit long enough to identify. I'll keep tinkering with it and see what happens.

Thanks for the reply.

73
John



On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 2:27 PM Al Massaro <almassaro@q.com> wrote:
John the RSID will change your RX mode for you, it will display a before RSID message for you only when it is received. Got to the user interface setup under ID to setup how you would like it to display and react.
AL M
KF5SMH

Re: RXID on FLDIGI

bobmary37 <bobmary37@...>
 

Well sort of! I have an iMac computer. Is there a Mac version of fldigi? I have an FT991, can I get cat control with my Mac?




On Monday, April 15, 2019, 18:21, John Wilson <kc4lzn@...> wrote:

Thanks Tom and because of the sporadic display of the different modes is telling me just that. Stations that I'm seeing with the mode identification have that turned on where the ones I'm not, don't. 

Thanks for the input.

73 John


On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 4:49 PM W2TLJ <tjoneson@...> wrote:
Just a note, RXID does not work unless the transmitting station has TXID turned on. Normally I find this is the cause of the non identifying problem.

Tom W2TLJ

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 4:02 PM John Wilson <kc4lzn@...> wrote:
Al,

All the above... just intermittent in its identification. May not be letting it sit long enough to identify. I'll keep tinkering with it and see what happens.

Thanks for the reply.

73
John



On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 2:27 PM Al Massaro <almassaro@q.com> wrote:
John the RSID will change your RX mode for you, it will display a before RSID message for you only when it is received. Got to the user interface setup under ID to setup how you would like it to display and react.
AL M
KF5SMH

Re: CW Interface

Lee Garner
 

Dave, now I am interested in building this. Thanks :)

From: Dave
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 15:12
Subject: Re: [nbems] CW Interface
To: nbems@groups.io


I've tested the K3NG sketch in my MORTTY with the echo test code removed from fldigi.   Works equally well with the original WinKeyer and the MORTTY with the K3NG sketch.  You can test for yourself using this alpha version:
which contains these changes from fldigi version 4.1.02 released yesterday.
    Fake WinKeyer
   
      * Disable WinKey Admin echo test.
        - K3NG Arduino sketch fails tests as implemented
          in the MORTTY interface

    MACRO <MODEM:
   
      * Add code to correctly recognize OLIVIA submodes
73, David, W1HKJ



A Solution To The Digital Mode Recognition Issue

Dave
 

This response is being shared with the linuxham and nbems groups at groups.io.

"Sounds" like a perfect opportunity for someone to write a QST article, Digital Modes Operating Etiquette.  My own preference is to use RsID only when calling CQ and then not for commonly recognized modes such as BPSK31.  Use this macro text for your CQ macro.  It will turn on RsID for each CQ and disable it immediately thereafter.



Configure the transmit RsID as disabled for the commonly recognized modes:



I often see an Olivia 8/500 QSO without an RsID.  It is completely indistinguishable from a Contestia 8/500 signal.  The tone patterns and spacing of Olivia and Contestia look the same for the same number of tones and bandwidth.  I've even seen Olivia being used on the opposite sideband (or reversed).  I chalk those up to ignorance rather than a desire for an anonymous, private conversation.   Fldigi's RsID configuration items can help to avoid being interrupted by the operator calling CQ with the RsID enabled. 



During emergency communications or net operations it is probably not a good idea to casually transmit the RsID.  It does slow down the exchange, and it might inadvertently interrupt an existing data exchange.  The use of RsID in a net should be a part of the net operating procedures.

I will change the fldigi's default CQ macro to that shown above.  That will at least assist new digital operators using fldigi to be courteous and informative.

73, David, W1HKJ


On 4/17/19 10:59 PM, Tony wrote:
On 4/17/2019 10:41 PM, Charles Hargrove wrote:
I don't see what the difficulty is. I leave my RxID & TxID on all the time.

Charles:

Difficulty is not the problem, it's the lack of use. The reason is a mystery, but I can tell you that the problem has existed for many years.

I'm not aware of RS-ID being mentioned in the ham license question pool so that could part of the problem for new and old alike who are just getting started with digital.

Tony -K2MO

Software help

Randy Davenport
 

I am interested in the nbems program.. I am disabled and low income. I connect to the internet on my cell phone as I have no internet at my apartment. Can someone please help me out with a CD or thumb drive with all the install programs. I am also interested in Chirp, Rmsexpress, winlink,  wajt-x, jtalert with all programs, , fldigi and all programs needed.
Randy ka4nma
Im good on qrz

Re: Software help

Daniel Miranda
 

Hi, Randy! Please clarify: are you planning on connecting your mobile phone to the radio or using a regular Pc for that?

How are you planning to use these applications?

If your disability has to do with hearing or speaking, I think there are extra good things to enjoy from digital modes.

Best,
-- Daniel

Em qui, 18 de abr de 2019 10:21, Randy Davenport <pastor.spaceboy@...> escreveu:

I am interested in the nbems program.. I am disabled and low income. I connect to the internet on my cell phone as I have no internet at my apartment. Can someone please help me out with a CD or thumb drive with all the install programs. I am also interested in Chirp, Rmsexpress, winlink,  wajt-x, jtalert with all programs, , fldigi and all programs needed.
Randy ka4nma
Im good on qrz

Re: Software help

Randy Davenport
 

Im trying to learn them. I live in an no outside antenna apartment


On Thu, Apr 18, 2019, 9:45 AM Daniel Miranda <dumper.dam@...> wrote:
Hi, Randy! Please clarify: are you planning on connecting your mobile phone to the radio or using a regular Pc for that?

How are you planning to use these applications?

If your disability has to do with hearing or speaking, I think there are extra good things to enjoy from digital modes.

Best,
-- Daniel

Em qui, 18 de abr de 2019 10:21, Randy Davenport <pastor.spaceboy@...> escreveu:
I am interested in the nbems program.. I am disabled and low income. I connect to the internet on my cell phone as I have no internet at my apartment. Can someone please help me out with a CD or thumb drive with all the install programs. I am also interested in Chirp, Rmsexpress, winlink,  wajt-x, jtalert with all programs, , fldigi and all programs needed.
Randy ka4nma
Im good on qrz

Re: Software help

Randall M. Payne
 

You got the wrong Randy, not me who asked about NBEMS.

On 4/18/2019 9:45 AM, Daniel Miranda wrote:
Hi, Randy! Please clarify: are you planning on connecting your mobile phone to the radio or using a regular Pc for that?

How are you planning to use these applications?

If your disability has to do with hearing or speaking, I think there are extra good things to enjoy from digital modes.

Best,
-- Daniel

Em qui, 18 de abr de 2019 10:21, Randy Davenport <pastor.spaceboy@...> escreveu:
I am interested in the nbems program.. I am disabled and low income. I connect to the internet on my cell phone as I have no internet at my apartment. Can someone please help me out with a CD or thumb drive with all the install programs. I am also interested in Chirp, Rmsexpress, winlink,  wajt-x, jtalert with all programs, , fldigi and all programs needed.
Randy ka4nma
Im good on qrz

Virus-free. www.avg.com


--
Randy Payne K4EZM
Highlands County Florida ARES EC; WCF ASEC and ASM

Re: [winfldigi] A Solution To The Digital Mode Recognition Issue

Dave
 

The newinstall.cxx code has been changed so that the default CQ macro has been changed to:



shown on an OS-X test compilation.  CW, PSK-31, and RTTY RsID transmit are initialized to disabled for the new installation.

73, Dave, W1HKJ

On 4/18/19 1:35 PM, Tony wrote:
On 4/18/2019 3:23 AM, Dave wrote:
I will change the fldigi's default CQ macro to that shown above. That will at least assist new digital operators using fldigi to be courteous and informative.

Dave:

That's great news -- simple and effective.

Thank you.

Tony -K2MO

fldigi 4.1.03 posted

Dave
 

This is an important bug fix release.  It corrects the problem of excess CPU% usage on many h/w platforms.

You can download this version at http://www.w1hkj.com

or from Source Forge.

Version 4.1.03

  * Maintenance release

      wf updates
        correct wf update loop logic error caused fldigi/xorg cpu loading

      New install macros
        modify default CQ macro to include RsID on/off

      WinKeyer emulators
        Disable WinKey serial echo for emulators like K3NB Arduino sketch.
          - use internal timing vice waiting for sent char echo
          - may also be used with real Winkeyer h/w
          - save state of emulation in configuration file

      MACRO <MODEM:
        Add code to correctly recognize OLIVIA submodes

73, David
W1HKJ


Re: fldigi 4.1.03 posted

Frank Olaughlin
 

Dave,

 

Thanks for the update and all the work involved. I hope to have a group test this week.

 

Have a great weekend and Happy Easter.

 

73’

Frank

WQ1O

 

From: nbems@groups.io [mailto:nbems@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 10:38 AM
To: Kamal Mostafa; Richard Shaw; Diane Bruce; Walter Fey; Richard
Subject: [nbems] fldigi 4.1.03 posted

 

This is an important bug fix release.  It corrects the problem of excess CPU% usage on many h/w platforms.

You can download this version at http://www.w1hkj.com

or from Source Forge.

Version 4.1.03

  * Maintenance release

      wf updates
        correct wf update loop logic error caused fldigi/xorg cpu loading

      New install macros
        modify default CQ macro to include RsID on/off

      WinKeyer emulators
        Disable WinKey serial echo for emulators like K3NB Arduino sketch.
          - use internal timing vice waiting for sent char echo
          - may also be used with real Winkeyer h/w
          - save state of emulation in configuration file

      MACRO <MODEM:
        Add code to correctly recognize OLIVIA submodes

73, David
W1HKJ

 

Re: [winfldigi] fldigi 4.1.03 posted

Dave
 

should correctly parse and execute the <MODEM:...><TX> sequence

Dave



On 4/23/19 7:11 AM, Ron via Groups.Io wrote:
Frank,

I think I've found a work around by adding a slight delay between the mode change and the TX like this.

<MODEM:THOR22>
<WAIT:00.1>
<TX>

Dave, was there a timing change that caused the modem not to change with a <TX>

73, Ron NY3J

On 4/22/19 6:31 PM, n3fll@... wrote:
I notice with version  4.1.03  that creating macro for  mode change and tx  doesn't change the mode as it does in previous versions, it
just transmits.

<MODEM:THOR22>

<TX>


Re: [winfldigi] fldigi 4.1.03 posted

Frank N3FLL
 

Dave, 

Yes it works as expected on my Win 10 computer,  thank you.  

73, 
Frank N3FLL 

FT4 for NBEMS net call ?

Andrew OBrien <k3ukandy@...>
 

Me , again. On my old topic of faster/easier net call-up methods.  As you may remember I think many NBEMS Olivia nets take FAR too long checking in stations (20 minutes of checking in, two minutes for net content ) . I did consider FSQcall and JS8Call as offering a better way to start an NBEMS net before switching to Olivia and FLAMP methods for traffic sending. Now I'm wondering if FT4 , or even FT8, offer something more efficient?  Both FT4 and FT8 offer the ability for Net Control to simultaneously detect stations checking in  over a 3 Khz range. Plenty of bandwidth for 20-30 NBEMS stations to check in and be "spread out" .  With FT4 , checking in could be done via a couple of 4.5 second cycles , with FT8 , 12 seconds. I'm also wondering about the "Fox and Hound" setting in FT8 (not implemented in FT4 at the  moment) and whether this could be used by a NCS to quickly acknowledge, en masse, the stations checking in. With WSJT-X and Fldigi open at same time. WSJT FT modes could be used to check in all stations within a minute and then use TX RSID in Fldigi (or Multipsk) to send traffic in the more  traditional, speedier, digital modes/

Andy K3UK 

Re: FT4 for NBEMS net call ?

Ralph Alden Brigham
 

Greetings,

Please stop promoting FT8 and other unauthorized modes on the 60 meter
channels. They are both in clear violation of the FCC and NTIA rules about
use of the 60 meter allocations. Military and government stations are the
primary users [Air Force and Army MARS]. When FT8 is used - authorized
stations can NOT use channel 3 at all - especially during an exercise or a real
event. These are also links between MARS stations and the regular amateur
radio community in times of communications problems.

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