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Re: Waterfall much narrower than the visible range of the spectrum box

Bill Hamel
 

Thank you for the reply.

Notch filter is OFF in the plain SSB modes (Non data) and is not an option when DATA-xSB is selected.

What I don’t understand right now is that it started working … when I saw your email I went into the 991a and checked the notch filter and manually changed the modes verifying that the notch filter would change the waterfall which it did on USB and LSB but not to the extent you see below.

So after I did this I took a break and shut everything down and when I fired everything back up is looked fine as I thought it should which had me scratching my head.

What’s strange is that I’ve shut everything down and up again several times during the natural course of the days and it never got any better.

Not sure what happened but I’m not complaining.

Thanks again for the email, it may not have been the answer but it helped getting the problem resolved. I’m just hoping it doesn’t resurface because I’m not sure what corrected it.

Thanks again
-bh k3tfm .

On Feb 20, 2019, at 7:31 AM, Gary <glhammer1970@...> wrote:

What radio are you using? Do you have any notch filtering set up???
 
 
 
From: nbems@groups.io [mailto:nbems@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Hamel
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 12:42 AM
To: nbems@groups.io
Subject: [nbems] Waterfall much narrower than the visible range of the spectrum box
 
Good evening. I am new to fldigi this may just be a newbie thing.
 
fldigi v4.1.00
Rig: Yaesu FT-991a
OS: MAC OS X 10.13.6
Digi Mode: BPSK31
 
With the FT-991a mode set to DATA-LSB (or DATA-USB) the width of the waterfall goes from 700 to 1300, if I switch to LSB or USB the waterfall covers the entire spectrum area which my view currently sees from 0 to 2700.
 
DATA-LSB or DATA-USB is the mode required for BPSK according to the Ft-991’s manual.
 
Is this the expected operation ?
 
It seems to me that I should be seeing the entire range of the spectrum that is in view or scrollable view.
 
Any insight greatly appreciated.
 
This is what I’m seeing.
 
DATA-LSB MODE
<image001.png>
 
USB MODE
<image002.png>
 
Thank you in advance,
Bill Hamel, K3TFM


Re: Waterfall much narrower than the visible range of the spectrum box

Bill Hamel
 

Thanks for the response.

I’ve read the manuals to no avail and thought that’s why I’d ask here for some help.

Based on another response talking about notch filter I went and checked that which was off and isn’t an option in the 991’s digital DATA-xSB modes anyway.

What has me scratching my head is that I was watching the fldigi waterfall and manually on the rig changed mode to USB and verified the waterfall changing, then hit the notch filter and saw it respond but not to the degree I was seeing in the Data mode.

I then changed back for DATA-USB and notch filter isn’t an option in that mode and the waterfall still looked narrow. I shut everything down and when I came back later and fired everything back up it was working fine. I had power cycled everything naturally over the past few days which had no effect.

It wasn’t until I went to the 991a and manually changed the modes that something changed.

I will say that I’ve been changing the modes via the 991 and RIGCAT tags I use in the macros as well as within flrig.

All I can think of is that somewhere in the CAT interaction something got dinged until I manually went to the rig and cycled through the modes … got me <shrug> …

I’m not complaining bc it works now.

Never the less, thanks for the input . If this pops up again I’ll try to figure out what combination actually corrected it and report it.

Thanks again,
-bh k3tfm


On Feb 20, 2019, at 12:07 PM, k4pwo <k4pwo@...> wrote:

I have an older plain FT-991… your answer is in the menus.  You can select the data mode bandwidth there.  If I was at my radio I could assist further but I’m not…
The manual is your friend.
 
Perry K4PWO
 
From: nbems@groups.io <nbems@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Hamel
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 11:42 PM
To: nbems@groups.io
Subject: [nbems] Waterfall much narrower than the visible range of the spectrum box
 
Good evening. I am new to fldigi this may just be a newbie thing.
 
fldigi v4.1.00
Rig: Yaesu FT-991a
OS: MAC OS X 10.13.6
Digi Mode: BPSK31
 
With the FT-991a mode set to DATA-LSB (or DATA-USB) the width of the waterfall goes from 700 to 1300, if I switch to LSB or USB the waterfall covers the entire spectrum area which my view currently sees from 0 to 2700.
 
DATA-LSB or DATA-USB is the mode required for BPSK according to the Ft-991’s manual.
 
Is this the expected operation ?
 
It seems to me that I should be seeing the entire range of the spectrum that is in view or scrollable view.
 
Any insight greatly appreciated.
 
This is what I’m seeing.
 
DATA-LSB MODE
<image001.png>
 
USB MODE
<image002.png>
 
Thank you in advance,
Bill Hamel, K3TFM


Re: Waterfall much narrower than the visible range of the spectrum box

Gary
 

I don’t the run rig control. I use the front congtrols on the radio, FT-920. Anyway, sound's like you have it "fixed", even if you really don't understand "what" did it!  Onward and upward!

 

Gary

KB8TSO

 

From: nbems@groups.io [mailto:nbems@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Hamel
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 1:43 PM
To: nbems@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nbems] Waterfall much narrower than the visible range of the spectrum box

 

Thanks for the response.

 

I’ve read the manuals to no avail and thought that’s why I’d ask here for some help.

 

Based on another response talking about notch filter I went and checked that which was off and isn’t an option in the 991’s digital DATA-xSB modes anyway.

 

What has me scratching my head is that I was watching the fldigi waterfall and manually on the rig changed mode to USB and verified the waterfall changing, then hit the notch filter and saw it respond but not to the degree I was seeing in the Data mode.

 

I then changed back for DATA-USB and notch filter isn’t an option in that mode and the waterfall still looked narrow. I shut everything down and when I came back later and fired everything back up it was working fine. I had power cycled everything naturally over the past few days which had no effect.

 

It wasn’t until I went to the 991a and manually changed the modes that something changed.

 

I will say that I’ve been changing the modes via the 991 and RIGCAT tags I use in the macros as well as within flrig.

 

All I can think of is that somewhere in the CAT interaction something got dinged until I manually went to the rig and cycled through the modes … got me <shrug> …

 

I’m not complaining bc it works now.

 

Never the less, thanks for the input . If this pops up again I’ll try to figure out what combination actually corrected it and report it.

 

Thanks again,

-bh k3tfm

 



On Feb 20, 2019, at 12:07 PM, k4pwo <k4pwo@...> wrote:

 

I have an older plain FT-991… your answer is in the menus.  You can select the data mode bandwidth there.  If I was at my radio I could assist further but I’m not…

The manual is your friend.

 

Perry K4PWO

 

From: nbems@groups.io <nbems@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Hamel
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 11:42 PM
To: nbems@groups.io
Subject: [nbems] Waterfall much narrower than the visible range of the spectrum box

 

Good evening. I am new to fldigi this may just be a newbie thing.

 

fldigi v4.1.00

Rig: Yaesu FT-991a

OS: MAC OS X 10.13.6

Digi Mode: BPSK31

 

With the FT-991a mode set to DATA-LSB (or DATA-USB) the width of the waterfall goes from 700 to 1300, if I switch to LSB or USB the waterfall covers the entire spectrum area which my view currently sees from 0 to 2700.

 

DATA-LSB or DATA-USB is the mode required for BPSK according to the Ft-991’s manual.

 

Is this the expected operation ?

 

It seems to me that I should be seeing the entire range of the spectrum that is in view or scrollable view.

 

Any insight greatly appreciated.

 

This is what I’m seeing.

 

DATA-LSB MODE

<image001.png>

 

USB MODE

<image002.png>

 

Thank you in advance,

Bill Hamel, K3TFM

 

Re: Waterfall much narrower than the visible range of the spectrum box

kd8ftr@...
 

without knowing the rig personally I would say data mode automatically adds filtering to cut out the outsides of the band. You can work in the waterfall in data mode or see the full spectrum in regular sideband mode. You should be able to transmit either way


On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 12:41 AM, Bill Hamel
<bill@...> wrote:
Good evening. I am new to fldigi this may just be a newbie thing.

fldigi v4.1.00
Rig: Yaesu FT-991a
OS: MAC OS X 10.13.6
Digi Mode: BPSK31

With the FT-991a mode set to DATA-LSB (or DATA-USB) the width of the waterfall goes from 700 to 1300, if I switch to LSB or USB the waterfall covers the entire spectrum area which my view currently sees from 0 to 2700.

DATA-LSB or DATA-USB is the mode required for BPSK according to the Ft-991’s manual.

Is this the expected operation ?

It seems to me that I should be seeing the entire range of the spectrum that is in view or scrollable view.

Any insight greatly appreciated.

This is what I’m seeing.

DATA-LSB MODE

USB MODE

Thank you in advance,
Bill Hamel, K3TFM

Re: Waterfall much narrower than the visible range of the spectrum box

Bill Hamel
 

Hi there,

The modem and sound card is internal to the FT-991A. Reading the manual they say that for data mode the rig must be in data mode.

That said, I saw that I could transmit but I saw that on the receive side things like AFC weren’t working unless I went back into digital mode. Nor do I know if someone could decode bpsk31 that I’m xmiting in native xSB.

Never the less, it is fixed now not sure what did it but my actions that lead up to it are in this thread …

Thanks for the input, very much appreciated !

-bh k3tfm

On Feb 20, 2019, at 2:45 PM, kd8ftr via Groups.Io <kd8ftr@...> wrote:

without knowing the rig personally I would say data mode automatically adds filtering to cut out the outsides of the band. You can work in the waterfall in data mode or see the full spectrum in regular sideband mode. You should be able to transmit either way


On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 12:41 AM, Bill Hamel
<bill@...> wrote:
Good evening. I am new to fldigi this may just be a newbie thing.

fldigi v4.1.00
Rig: Yaesu FT-991a
OS: MAC OS X 10.13.6
Digi Mode: BPSK31

With the FT-991a mode set to DATA-LSB (or DATA-USB) the width of the waterfall goes from 700 to 1300, if I switch to LSB or USB the waterfall covers the entire spectrum area which my view currently sees from 0 to 2700.

DATA-LSB or DATA-USB is the mode required for BPSK according to the Ft-991’s manual.

Is this the expected operation ?

It seems to me that I should be seeing the entire range of the spectrum that is in view or scrollable view.

Any insight greatly appreciated.

This is what I’m seeing.

DATA-LSB MODE
<PastedGraphic-1.png>

USB MODE
<PastedGraphic-2.png>

Thank you in advance,
Bill Hamel, K3TFM
<PastedGraphic-2.png><PastedGraphic-1.png>

Re: Waterfall much narrower than the visible range of the spectrum box

rgireson
 

Might the rig have DSP set differently (e.g., Width & Shift) for different modes?

Re: Waterfall much narrower than the visible range of the spectrum box

Marty Hartwell
 

Hi

This may not make much sense but maybe just entering and leaving the setup area

and looking around, not even clicking anything and then saving again curred it.

Just a thought.


Marty kd8bj

On 2/20/19 12:30 PM, Bill Hamel wrote:
Thank you for the reply.

Notch filter is OFF in the plain SSB modes (Non data) and is not an option when DATA-xSB is selected.

What I don’t understand right now is that it started working … when I saw your email I went into the 991a and checked the notch filter and manually changed the modes verifying that the notch filter would change the waterfall which it did on USB and LSB but not to the extent you see below.

So after I did this I took a break and shut everything down and when I fired everything back up is looked fine as I thought it should which had me scratching my head.

What’s strange is that I’ve shut everything down and up again several times during the natural course of the days and it never got any better.

Not sure what happened but I’m not complaining.

Thanks again for the email, it may not have been the answer but it helped getting the problem resolved. I’m just hoping it doesn’t resurface because I’m not sure what corrected it.

Thanks again
-bh k3tfm .

On Feb 20, 2019, at 7:31 AM, Gary <glhammer1970@... <mailto:glhammer1970@...>> wrote:

What radio are you using? Do you have any notch filtering set up???
*From:*nbems@groups.io <mailto:nbems@groups.io>[mailto:nbems@groups.io]*On Behalf Of*Bill Hamel
*Sent:*Wednesday, February 20, 2019 12:42 AM
*To:*nbems@groups.io <mailto:nbems@groups.io>
*Subject:*[nbems] Waterfall much narrower than the visible range of the spectrum box
Good evening. I am new to fldigi this may just be a newbie thing.
fldigi v4.1.00
Rig: Yaesu FT-991a
OS: MAC OS X 10.13.6
Digi Mode: BPSK31
With the FT-991a mode set to DATA-LSB (or DATA-USB) the width of the waterfall goes from 700 to 1300, if I switch to LSB or USB the waterfall covers the entire spectrum area which my view currently sees from 0 to 2700.
DATA-LSB or DATA-USB is the mode required for BPSK according to the Ft-991’s manual.
Is this the expected operation ?
It seems to me that I should be seeing the entire range of the spectrum that is in view or scrollable view.
Any insight greatly appreciated.
This is what I’m seeing.
DATA-LSB MODE
<image001.png>
USB MODE
<image002.png>
Thank you in advance,
Bill Hamel, K3TFM

Re: Waterfall much narrower than the visible range of the spectrum box

Bill Hamel
 

HI there,

Yep, I wish I was paying more attention to the series of events that fixed it, but it is working now.

Thanks again,

-bh k3tfm

On Feb 20, 2019, at 8:08 PM, Marty Hartwell <mhartwe@...> wrote:

Hi

This may not make much sense but maybe just entering and leaving the setup area

and looking around, not even clicking anything and then saving again curred it.

Just a thought.


Marty kd8bj


On 2/20/19 12:30 PM, Bill Hamel wrote:
Thank you for the reply.

Notch filter is OFF in the plain SSB modes (Non data) and is not an option when DATA-xSB is selected.

What I don’t understand right now is that it started working … when I saw your email I went into the 991a and checked the notch filter and manually changed the modes verifying that the notch filter would change the waterfall which it did on USB and LSB but not to the extent you see below.

So after I did this I took a break and shut everything down and when I fired everything back up is looked fine as I thought it should which had me scratching my head.

What’s strange is that I’ve shut everything down and up again several times during the natural course of the days and it never got any better.

Not sure what happened but I’m not complaining.

Thanks again for the email, it may not have been the answer but it helped getting the problem resolved. I’m just hoping it doesn’t resurface because I’m not sure what corrected it.

Thanks again
-bh k3tfm .

On Feb 20, 2019, at 7:31 AM, Gary <glhammer1970@... <mailto:glhammer1970@...>> wrote:

What radio are you using? Do you have any notch filtering set up???
*From:*nbems@groups.io <mailto:nbems@groups.io>[mailto:nbems@groups.io]*On Behalf Of*Bill Hamel
*Sent:*Wednesday, February 20, 2019 12:42 AM
*To:*nbems@groups.io <mailto:nbems@groups.io>
*Subject:*[nbems] Waterfall much narrower than the visible range of the spectrum box
Good evening. I am new to fldigi this may just be a newbie thing.
fldigi v4.1.00
Rig: Yaesu FT-991a
OS: MAC OS X 10.13.6
Digi Mode: BPSK31
With the FT-991a mode set to DATA-LSB (or DATA-USB) the width of the waterfall goes from 700 to 1300, if I switch to LSB or USB the waterfall covers the entire spectrum area which my view currently sees from 0 to 2700.
DATA-LSB or DATA-USB is the mode required for BPSK according to the Ft-991’s manual.
Is this the expected operation ?
It seems to me that I should be seeing the entire range of the spectrum that is in view or scrollable view.
Any insight greatly appreciated.
This is what I’m seeing.
DATA-LSB MODE
<image001.png>
USB MODE
<image002.png>
Thank you in advance,
Bill Hamel, K3TFM



Re: Waterfall much narrower than the visible range of the spectrum box

Richard Small
 

The problem is that the Digital USB mode provides a narrow “sweet spot”.

Bring up the “F” menu and find Shift and Width.

Set Shift to 1200 (maximum)

Set Width to 2400

That’s what works for me on my FT-991 (not A)

 

Dick, WB6DIK

 

Richard Small

rmsmall@...

 

FLARQ

David Weiss <dweiss.ssbn620@...>
 

When I start beaconing, FLARC sends a beacon to FLDIGI and FLDIGI sends the beacon.
My issue is that the beacon status goes to 'Beaconing' but never beacons again and can not be turned off.
Any help would be appreciated.

Re: FLARQ

Bob Cameron
 

The beacon period is set? I think the default is 60 seconds. My flarq has a countdown timer next to the beacon/button and seems to work.

Are you seeing flarq hang? If so I'd suggest the usual approach of renaming the config directories (.fldigi and .nbems) and testing with defaults. The communication flarq/fldigi is also via TCP 7322 and 7362 so make sure nothing else is using that. Example, flmsg running at the same time may.

Bob VK2YQA


On 23/2/19 6:26 am, David Weiss wrote:
When I start beaconing, FLARC sends a beacon to FLDIGI and FLDIGI sends the beacon.
My issue is that the beacon status goes to 'Beaconing' but never beacons again and can not be turned off.
Any help would be appreciated.
_._,_._,_


Re: FLARQ

David Weiss <dweiss.ssbn620@...>
 

What versions are you running.  Are you using Windows, Linix or Apple?


On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 4:41 PM Bob Cameron <bob3bob3@...> wrote:

The beacon period is set? I think the default is 60 seconds. My flarq has a countdown timer next to the beacon/button and seems to work.

Are you seeing flarq hang? If so I'd suggest the usual approach of renaming the config directories (.fldigi and .nbems) and testing with defaults. The communication flarq/fldigi is also via TCP 7322 and 7362 so make sure nothing else is using that. Example, flmsg running at the same time may.

Bob VK2YQA


On 23/2/19 6:26 am, David Weiss wrote:
When I start beaconing, FLARC sends a beacon to FLDIGI and FLDIGI sends the beacon.
My issue is that the beacon status goes to 'Beaconing' but never beacons again and can not be turned off.
Any help would be appreciated.



--
David Weiss

flamp / fldigi

Dave
 

Please test this combination

The 8psk1000F.wav playback file was created on Linux and played back successfully on Linux and Windows 10.  It consists of 5 files of various sizes and complexity.  It was recorded at 48,000 samples/sec, monophonic.

73, David, W1HKJ

On 2/19/19 3:49 PM, Kenneth C Miller via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Dave,

I have had a problem with your last two versions while xmiting compressed files via FLamp.  I get about
seven lines of data sent and then get a extended line length followed by a skipping of several lines.
Going back to using version 4.01.00 no problems working with FLamp 2.2.04. 

Running Windows 8.1 on Toshiba laptop. 

73 de Ken, K7IFG

Re: FLARQ

Bob Cameron
 

Linux Debian Stretch, fldigi 4.1.00 built from source (flarq being included within fldigi)

On 23/2/19 9:40 am, David Weiss wrote:
What versions are you running.  Are you using Windows, Linix or Apple?

Re: Waterfall much narrower than the visible range of the spectrum box

Bill Hamel
 

Hi there, 

That was it …. VERY MUCH APPRECIATED !!

Mine seems to reset on power cycle, but no big deal I suppose …

Thanks again and take care !!

-bh k3tfm


On Feb 21, 2019, at 1:12 PM, Richard Small <rmsmall@...> wrote:

The problem is that the Digital USB mode provides a narrow “sweet spot”. 
Bring up the “F” menu and find Shift and Width.
Set Shift to 1200 (maximum) 
Set Width to 2400
That’s what works for me on my FT-991 (not A)
 
Dick, WB6DIK
 
Richard Small
 

Re: fldigi 4.1.01 release

gregsiemasz@...
 

Thank you for letting me join the group.
I am having a couple of issues with this version.
1: WX no longer works .
2: When I change frequency from 40m to 20m the Frq box stays in 40m making it impossible to save QSO correctly and send accurate QSL's via the program.
I tried to change the Frq by putting cursor in that field but nothing happened.
3. I try to input County information and nothing happens there either. If I click on the County tab or Frq tab I can see this ^ at front left but can not input any info.
I am running windows 10 Home 1803 and have had no issues with previous versions of Fldigi.
Below is just an example pic I got on line and is not the current version. The Frq is the same as the frequency. I pulled this pic off the internet.
I have uninstalled and reinstalled this version and it still has the same issues
I am new to this group and was not sure how to make the example smaller in the word processor.
Thank you and your help would be greatly appreciated.
Greg

Re: fldigi 4.1.01 release

Ed W3NR
 

On 2/25/19 8:16 AM, gregsiemasz@... wrote:
Thank you for letting me join the group.
I am having a couple of issues with this version.
1: WX no longer works .
Being worked on.
2: When I change frequency from 40m to 20m the Frq box stays in 40m making it impossible to save QSO correctly and send accurate QSL's via the program.
I tried to change the Frq by putting cursor in that field but nothing happened.
What are you using for rig control ?
3. I try to input County information and nothing happens there either. If I click on the County tab or Frq tab I can see this ^ at front left but can not input any info.
I am running windows 10 Home 1803 and have had no issues with previous versions of Fldigi.
Use the drop down.
Below is just an example pic I got on line and is not the current version. The Frq is the same as the frequency. I pulled this pic off the internet.
I have uninstalled and reinstalled this version and it still has the same issues
I am new to this group and was not sure how to make the example smaller in the word processor.
Thank you and your help would be greatly appreciated.
Greg

_._,_._,_

Ed W3NR

Re: fldigi 4.1.01 release

gregsiemasz@...
 

Ed,
I am not using any rig control. I never got it to work with my Ten-Tec Jupiter.
I am connected to radio via SignalLink USB.
I just not that savvy to figure out how to make any of the rig controls to work with this radio.
I thought that if I right clicked on the drop down that appears and give you RST,QTH State and County it would input where it should go under County.
Greg

Re: fldigi 4.1.01 release

Ed W3NR
 

On 2/25/19 1:02 PM, gregsiemasz@... wrote:
Ed,
I am not using any rig control. I never got it to work with my Ten-Tec Jupiter.
I was the alpha tester when the jupiter was added to flrrig and it worked perfectly, so I don't know what problem you had.
I am connected to radio via SignalLink USB.
I just not that savvy to figure out how to make any of the rig controls to work with this radio.
Without rig control it must be done manually.
I thought that if I right clicked on the drop down that appears and give you RST,QTH State and County it would input where it should go under County.
Is this a state QSO party ?
Greg
_._,_._,_

Ed W3NR

Your call ?

Re: fldigi 4.1.01 release

gregsiemasz@...
 

Ed
I don’t know anything about flrrig. There was no information from Ten-Tec or anyone else. So would you like to help me with that? I have been doing it manually and it wasn’t a problem. I got use to it. New software has bugs and I take it will be fixed eventually. 
Ed I don’t understand some of your questions. Can you elaborate?

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 2:14 PM Ed W3NR <autek@...> wrote:
On 2/25/19 1:02 PM, gregsiemasz@... wrote:
Ed,
I am not using any rig control. I never got it to work with my Ten-Tec Jupiter.
I was the alpha tester when the jupiter was added to flrrig and it worked perfectly, so I don't know what problem you had.
I am connected to radio via SignalLink USB.
I just not that savvy to figure out how to make any of the rig controls to work with this radio.
Without rig control it must be done manually.
I thought that if I right clicked on the drop down that appears and give you RST,QTH State and County it would input where it should go under County.
Is this a state QSO party ?
Greg