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Re: Getting up to speed on operating with fldigi?

Steve Bellner
 

RGR all Frank.

Thank you and I'll try your advise.

73,

W8TER

On 2/11/2019 7:55 PM, Frank wrote:
Steve, I'd be happy to try to help out with your friend, but have a couple of caveats.

First, I'm ultra-new to Flidigi, so if there is another Mac user who is more experienced with it reading this, I'd definitely defer to them.

Second, in my experience with Flidigi and WSJT-X, the issue isn't so much the basic install of the program, but rather getting it configured to talk to your radio, and getting the radio itself configured. If your friend happens to have an IC-7300 I can probably help, but if he has another radio it might be more beneficial to find someone with experience with that particular radio (whether or not they're a Mac user).

Finally, I haven't installed and am not using Flmsg, so I can't help with that.

Despite all of the above if it seems as though there's a way I might be able to assist, let me know!

Re: Getting up to speed on operating with fldigi?

Andrew OBrien <k3ukandy@...>
 

Attached (if the mail group allows attachments) is a PDF of the original document from 2000, very old.  Perhaps I will update it for the modern world.

Andy K3UK

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 8:00 PM Steve Bellner <stevebellner@...> wrote:

RGR all Frank.

Thank you and I'll try your advise.

73,

W8TER

On 2/11/2019 7:55 PM, Frank wrote:
Steve, I'd be happy to try to help out with your friend, but have a couple of caveats.

First, I'm ultra-new to Flidigi, so if there is another Mac user who is more experienced with it reading this, I'd definitely defer to them.

Second, in my experience with Flidigi and WSJT-X, the issue isn't so much the basic install of the program, but rather getting it configured to talk to your radio, and getting the radio itself configured. If your friend happens to have an IC-7300 I can probably help, but if he has another radio it might be more beneficial to find someone with experience with that particular radio (whether or not they're a Mac user).

Finally, I haven't installed and am not using Flmsg, so I can't help with that.

Despite all of the above if it seems as though there's a way I might be able to assist, let me know!

Re: Getting up to speed on operating with fldigi?

Ted VE3TRQ
 

I'm sure if you start a new thread asking for Mac FLDigi help, you will have lots of people come out of the woodwork. There are many of us that use Macs with various radios. I use FLDigi on Mac, Windows, and Linux on a Flex, a K3, and a KX3.

Ted  VE3TRQ

Re: Getting up to speed on operating with fldigi?

Doug K7KY
 

Frank... IC you live on the west coast.  You can learn about handling NBEMS traffic by monitoring the ORCA DIGITAL NET on Tues evenings, 1930p/0330z, on 3.581+1500, MFSK-32.  You will eventually need to install FLMSG & FLAMP to participate, but you can learn a lot about digital net operations by monitoring. ORCA closely follows Amateur Directed net protocols.  Monitor a few sessions and you will know if ORCA is right for your interest.  Whatever skills you learn here will do you well in all digital operations; you don't have to work digital traffic to benefit.  Doug K7KY

Re: Getting up to speed on operating with fldigi?

Andrew OBrien <k3ukandy@...>
 

Frank,  FYI... I left my rig on 14070 today with RS ID turned on for receive and I received the fllowing modes

22:09:09 UTC ALE400            2514 Hz
21:42:23 UTC CONTESTIA-8-250   2185 Hz
21:36:40 UTC CONTESTIA-8-250   2573 Hz
21:26:46 UTC CONTESTIA-8-250   2314 Hz
21:21:05 UTC CONTESTIA-8-250   2519 Hz
21:18:41 UTC OLIVIA-8-500      2309 Hz
21:18:35 UTC CONTESTIA-8-250   2314 Hz
21:14:35 UTC OLIVIA-8-500      2309 Hz
21:08:37 UTC OLIVIA-8-500      2314 Hz
21:06:20 UTC OLIVIA-8-500      2304 Hz
19:55:46 UTC OLIVIA-4-250      1458 Hz
18:06:44 UTC BPSK31            1798 Hz
17:59:50 UTC CONTESTIA-8-250   2492 Hz
16:09:15 UTC OLIVIA-16-500     2384 Hz
15:05:19 UTC MFSK16            2147 Hz
15:00:26 UTC MFSK16            2153 Hz

Andy K3UK


On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 6:01 PM Doug K7KY <k7ky@...> wrote:
Frank... IC you live on the west coast.  You can learn about handling NBEMS traffic by monitoring the ORCA DIGITAL NET on Tues evenings, 1930p/0330z, on 3.581+1500, MFSK-32.  You will eventually need to install FLMSG & FLAMP to participate, but you can learn a lot about digital net operations by monitoring. ORCA closely follows Amateur Directed net protocols.  Monitor a few sessions and you will know if ORCA is right for your interest.  Whatever skills you learn here will do you well in all digital operations; you don't have to work digital traffic to benefit.  Doug K7KY

FLAMP and iMac.

dweiss.ssbn620@...
 

I have an iMac computer running Mojave version 10.14.3.
FLDIGI and FLMSG appear to work fine but FLAMP does not.
None of the tabs, RECEIVE, TRANSMIT EVENTS or CONFIGURE work.
The program starts up in the RECEIVE tab, but I am unable to enter any information in the fields.
Neither can I switch tabs?

Any Suggestions?

Regards,
David

Re: FLAMP and iMac.

Dave
 

Did you install flamp-2.2.04_x86_64.dmg from http://www.w1hkj.com/files/flamp ?

David

On 2/13/19 11:37 AM, dweiss.ssbn620@... wrote:
I have an iMac computer running Mojave version 10.14.3.
FLDIGI and FLMSG appear to work fine but FLAMP does not.
None of the tabs, RECEIVE, TRANSMIT EVENTS or CONFIGURE work.
The program starts up in the RECEIVE tab, but I am unable to enter any information in the fields.
Neither can I switch tabs?

Any Suggestions?

Regards,
David

Re: Getting up to speed on operating with fldigi?

Frank
 

Doug, thanks for the heads-up about the ORCA net. I'll make a point of tuning in next Tuesday. Actually I do have FLMSG and FLAMP installed now.

Re: Getting up to speed on operating with fldigi?

Frank
 

Andy, great demo of the RS ID capability. I have FLdigi running on 14.070 at the moment and just toggled that on.

I've been getting some great help from people here both on and off the list. I also found the YouTube videos posted on K4REF's YouTube account helpful, though I see they're about three years old now so the menus are slightly different. I have my macros customized and have been monitoring some QSOs to get a feel for how they go.

The one last detail I need to sort out before trying to transmit is how to set the power level with my configuration. I'm using an Icom IC-7300, and have a single USB cable between it and my Mac laptop for both CAT rig control and USB CODEC audio transfer. The standard practice with WSJT-X is to leave RF Power on the rig set to 100%, and dial the power up or down with a slider in the WSJT-X app. At this point I'm not sure yet how to do that with FLdigi. I've done some web searches but have seen conflicting advice, including some that seems to relate to soundcard settings that aren't applicable in my case. If anyone has a quick answer on this one I'd be much obliged.

Re: Getting up to speed on operating with fldigi?

Ed W3NR
 

On 2/13/19 1:50 PM, Frank wrote:
Andy, great demo of the RS ID capability. I have FLdigi running on 14.070 at the moment and just toggled that on.

I've been getting some great help from people here both on and off the list. I also found the YouTube videos posted on K4REF's YouTube account helpful, though I see they're about three years old now so the menus are slightly different. I have my macros customized and have been monitoring some QSOs to get a feel for how they go.

The one last detail I need to sort out before trying to transmit is how to set the power level with my configuration. I'm using an Icom IC-7300, and have a single USB cable between it and my Mac laptop for both CAT rig control and USB CODEC audio transfer. The standard practice with WSJT-X is to leave RF Power on the rig set to 100%, and dial the power up or down with a slider in the WSJT-X app. At this point I'm not sure yet how to do that with FLdigi. I've done some web searches but have seen conflicting advice, including some that seems to relate to soundcard settings that aren't applicable in my case. If anyone has a quick answer on this one I'd be much obliged.
_._,_._,_

Just under the Store Lck buttons is the ATTN, it dors what you want.

Ed W3NR

Re: Getting up to speed on operating with fldigi?

Frank
 

Ed, thanks very much for the pointer -- was able to find that.

Now I'm wondering: If I have my IC-7300 set to 100% RF Power, what would be an appropriate number to plug into the ATTN on FLdigi to achieve a net power out of ~30 watts? At the moment the ATTN window is showing -3.0 dB.

Re: Getting up to speed on operating with fldigi?

Ed W3NR
 

On 2/13/19 2:40 PM, Frank wrote:
Ed, thanks very much for the pointer -- was able to find that.

Now I'm wondering: If I have my IC-7300 set to 100% RF Power, what would be an appropriate number to plug into the ATTN on FLdigi to achieve a net power out of ~30 watts? At the moment the ATTN window is showing -3.0 dB.

Use the arrow buttons to adjust the power.

Ed

Re: Getting up to speed on operating with fldigi?

Frank
 

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:50 AM, Ed W3NR wrote:
Use the arrow buttons to adjust the power.
That was pretty clear, I was wondering what would be an average numeric value for that ATTN window to bring the rig's 100 watts down to ~30 watts. Based on watching the IC-7300's Power Out bar graph while transmitting, it appears as though -7.6 dB in FLdigi's TX level attenuator window should put me somewhere around 30 watts. If that sounds wildly different from what other people use for a transceiver of this class, that would be interesting to know.

I tried responding to a CQ, and logged my first PSK31 QSO -- actually with an op who is only about 10 miles away. With more distant hams, I typically see a lot of gibberish characters mixed into the text (sometimes it's more gibberish than text). Is that common? I think the transceiver and antenna are pretty decent. Anything else to tweak within FLdigi? Or is noise due to band conditions and so on just part of life?

Re: Getting up to speed on operating with fldigi?

Ed W3NR
 

On 2/13/19 3:04 PM, Frank wrote:
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:50 AM, Ed W3NR wrote:
Use the arrow buttons to adjust the power.
That was pretty clear, I was wondering what would be an average numeric value for that ATTN window to bring the rig's 100 watts down to ~30 watts. Based on watching the IC-7300's Power Out bar graph while transmitting, it appears as though -7.6 dB in FLdigi's TX level attenuator window should put me somewhere around 30 watts. If that sounds wildly different from what other people use for a transceiver of this class, that would be interesting to know.

I tried responding to a CQ, and logged my first PSK31 QSO -- actually with an op who is only about 10 miles away. With more distant hams, I typically see a lot of gibberish characters mixed into the text (sometimes it's more gibberish than text). Is that common? I think the transceiver and antenna are pretty decent. Anything else to tweak within FLdigi? Or is noise due to band conditions and so on just part of life?
_._,_._,_

Adjust the slider on the right side just above the SQL button.

This may answer a lot of your questions::

http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp/index.html

Ed

Re: FLAMP and iMac.

dweiss.ssbn620@...
 

Not sure.  It was either there or 

David


On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 12:54 PM Dave <w1hkj@...> wrote:
Did you install flamp-2.2.04_x86_64.dmg from
http://www.w1hkj.com/files/flamp ?

David

On 2/13/19 11:37 AM, dweiss.ssbn620@... wrote:
> I have an iMac computer running Mojave version 10.14.3.
> FLDIGI and FLMSG appear to work fine but FLAMP does not.
> None of the tabs, RECEIVE, TRANSMIT EVENTS or CONFIGURE work.
> The program starts up in the RECEIVE tab, but I am unable to enter any
> information in the fields.
> Neither can I switch tabs?
>
> Any Suggestions?
>
> Regards,
> David






--
David Weiss

Re: FLAMP and iMac.

David Weiss <dweiss.ssbn620@...>
 

I just reloaded from http://www.w1hkj.com/files/flamp.

It works now.

Thanks for your help.  I am putting on a presentation for and introduction to NBEMS for the New Hampshire ARES Academy at the end of March.
I have been using NBEMS for decades on a PC and wanted to do a workshop where two computers could talk to each via two different radios.
I have two complete radios and SignaLinks, but only one computer.  So I decided to try and use my wife's iMac.

Thanks Again

David


On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 12:54 PM Dave <w1hkj@...> wrote:
Did you install flamp-2.2.04_x86_64.dmg from
http://www.w1hkj.com/files/flamp ?

David

On 2/13/19 11:37 AM, dweiss.ssbn620@... wrote:
> I have an iMac computer running Mojave version 10.14.3.
> FLDIGI and FLMSG appear to work fine but FLAMP does not.
> None of the tabs, RECEIVE, TRANSMIT EVENTS or CONFIGURE work.
> The program starts up in the RECEIVE tab, but I am unable to enter any
> information in the fields.
> Neither can I switch tabs?
>
> Any Suggestions?
>
> Regards,
> David






--
David Weiss

Re: Getting up to speed on operating with fldigi?

Frank
 

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 12:12 PM, Ed W3NR wrote:

Adjust the slider on the right side just above the SQL button.

This may answer a lot of your questions::

http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp/index.html
Thanks, Ed. I'm sure it's my shortcoming, but I've looked through the online help and am not finding a section that discusses the slider you mention above. Do you remember where you might have seen it?

Re: Getting up to speed on operating with fldigi?

Ed W3NR
 

On 2/13/19 6:17 PM, Frank wrote:
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 12:12 PM, Ed W3NR wrote:

Adjust the slider on the right side just above the SQL button.

This may answer a lot of your questions::

http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp/index.html
Thanks, Ed. I'm sure it's my shortcoming, but I've looked through the online help and am not finding a section that discusses the slider you mention above. Do you remember where you might have seen it?
_._,_._,_

http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp/operating_controls_page.html

Ed W3NR



Re: Getting up to speed on operating with fldigi?

Frank
 

Thank you!

Re: Getting up to speed on operating with fldigi?

Andrew OBrien <k3ukandy@...>
 

and Frank, with the 7300 you have all kinds of help available... lots of YouTube videos for setting that up for digital modes.  You may find that the "USB Mode Level" varies with different  digital mode software and sometimes different modes.  A USB Mode Level setting in the 7300 may be set really nicely where you are getting good power out and no ALC visible , but switching modes or software may result in some ALC being introduced or power output being lower.  Keep an eye on things at first.   My personal view is that you should not view most digital modes as low power modes.  There is nothing wrong in having 100 watts output using FT8, JT65A, JS8 , FSQcall,  PSK, MFSK, Olivia, etc, etc.  As long as your ALC is set correctly (and you are not transmitting LONG messages via slow modes ) .  Modes like Opera, WSPR, WOLF, Jason, DFCW, and other QQRS modes are the modes where LOW power IS expected on HF.   
Andy K3UK