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Re: Macro with modem changes

Bob Cameron
 

Hi Randy

Basically any modem change resets/clears the timer. I ended up using fldigi-shell and a bash script to create timed events with multiple modem types.

I'll admit I haven't fully read your post, I only saw the TIMER problem.

Cheers Bob VK2YQA


On 06/11/18 10:59, Randy wrote:

Greetings,

 

I was attempting to create a testing macro for different modems.  I do not get the expected results.  I start with fldigi set to mt63-2kl and transmit the macro shown below.  It starts in mt63 as expected, changes to 8psk1000f as expected but then reverts to mt63, then to 8psk500f to transmit the final “Modem returned to MT63-2KL” and finally leaves the system in 8psk500f.

 

Attempting to use a <TIMER:60> at the end is ignored. 

 

// Macro # 26

/$ 25 TESTINGMACROORDER

 

    <INCR>

    THIS IS A TEST OF RSID WITH FLDIGI STARTING IN\n

    MT63-2KL AND SEQUENCING 3 MODES\n

    8PSK1000F NEXT 8PSK500F TO FOLLOW THAT\n

    \n

 

    <!IDLE:2>    <!MODEM:NULL>    <!IDLE:2>    <!MODEM:8PSK1000F>

 

    THIS SHOULD NOW BE TRANSMITTING 8PSK1000F\n

    \n

    8PSK500F NEXT AND RETURN TO MT63-2KL\n

    \n

 

    <!MODEM:NULL>    <!IDLE:2>    <!MODEM:8PSK500F>

 

    THIS SHOULD NOW TRANSMIT 8PSK500F\n

    \n

    AND NEXT SHOULD RETURN THE SYSTEM TO MT63-2KL AS WE STARTED

 

    <!IDLE:2>    <!MODEM:NULL>    <!IDLE:2>    <!MODEM:MT63-2KL>

   

    Modem returned to MT63-2KL\n

    <TX><RX>   

 

Do I interpret the instructions incorrectly? Is there a max length to macros? Do inline commands negate repeating timer commands?

 

Randall L. Pratt

KJ0RE

Http:\\mit.midco.net\rpratt

 

 


Re: Macro with modem changes

Randy
 

Thank you for the reply.  The other part of my problem seems to be connected to the file structure of the macro.  By carefully placing line returns and separating all the commands to individual line breaks seems to improve things.  I have still not been able to set the initial modem type from the macro and the sequence that follows startup changes with the fldigi originally set modem type or the previous fldigi transmission.  A clean restart of fldigi before macro execution gives my intended sequence as long as I only repeat the same macro.

 

Randy

KJ0RE

http://mit.midco.net/rpratt

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nbems@groups.io [mailto:nbems@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Cameron
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 4:39 AM
To: nbems@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nbems] Macro with modem changes

 

Hi Randy

Basically any modem change resets/clears the timer. I ended up using fldigi-shell and a bash script to create timed events with multiple modem types.

I'll admit I haven't fully read your post, I only saw the TIMER problem.

Cheers Bob VK2YQA

 

On 06/11/18 10:59, Randy wrote:

Greetings,

 

I was attempting to create a testing macro for different modems.  I do not get the expected results.  I start with fldigi set to mt63-2kl and transmit the macro shown below.  It starts in mt63 as expected, changes to 8psk1000f as expected but then reverts to mt63, then to 8psk500f to transmit the final “Modem returned to MT63-2KL” and finally leaves the system in 8psk500f.

 

Attempting to use a <TIMER:60> at the end is ignored.  

 

// Macro # 26

/$ 25 TESTINGMACROORDER

 

    <INCR>

    THIS IS A TEST OF RSID WITH FLDIGI STARTING IN\n

    MT63-2KL AND SEQUENCING 3 MODES\n

    8PSK1000F NEXT 8PSK500F TO FOLLOW THAT\n

    \n

 

    <!IDLE:2>    <!MODEM:NULL>    <!IDLE:2>    <!MODEM:8PSK1000F>

 

    THIS SHOULD NOW BE TRANSMITTING 8PSK1000F\n

    \n

    8PSK500F NEXT AND RETURN TO MT63-2KL\n

    \n

 

    <!MODEM:NULL>    <!IDLE:2>    <!MODEM:8PSK500F>

 

    THIS SHOULD NOW TRANSMIT 8PSK500F\n

    \n

    AND NEXT SHOULD RETURN THE SYSTEM TO MT63-2KL AS WE STARTED

 

    <!IDLE:2>    <!MODEM:NULL>    <!IDLE:2>    <!MODEM:MT63-2KL>

    

    Modem returned to MT63-2KL\n

    <TX><RX>    

 

Do I interpret the instructions incorrectly? Is there a max length to macros? Do inline commands negate repeating timer commands?

 

Randall L. Pratt

KJ0RE

Http:\\mit.midco.net\rpratt

 

 

 

Re: Macro with modem changes

Sean Smith
 

Hi Andy,

Probably your best route is to use an external script  that accesses FLdigi’s XML-RPC interface. 

http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp-3.21/html/xmlrpc_control_page.html

I’ve written a beacon timing script in Perl that changes the mode and transmits the beacon. Its deployed on several stations and is rock solid. 


Sean VE6SAR 

Re: Macro with modem changes

David Ranch
 

Hello Sean,

Are you willing to post your code somewhere so people can take a look?  Speaking for myself, I always like to learn from other examples that work and expand from there.

--David
KI6ZHD


Hi Andy,

Probably your best route is to use an external script  that accesses FLdigi’s XML-RPC interface. 

http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp-3.21/html/xmlrpc_control_page.html

I’ve written a beacon timing script in Perl that changes the mode and transmits the beacon. Its deployed on several stations and is rock solid.

Sean VE6SAR 

Re: Macro with modem changes

Randy
 

Thanks!  I’ll look at that.  I have continued experimenting with this and I believe the end of line/ line return format within my macros is causing the problem I have.  Minor changes to a working macro will create random operation until I again methodically format the text within the macro.  I’m using WinXP and Notepad.

 

Randy

KJ0RE

http://mit.midco.net/rpratt

 

-----Original Message-----
From: nbems@groups.io [mailto:nbems@groups.io] On Behalf Of Sean Smith
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 7:47 AM
To: nbems@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nbems] Macro with modem changes

 

Hi Andy,

Probably your best route is to use an external script  that accesses FLdigi’s XML-RPC interface. 

http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp-3.21/html/xmlrpc_control_page.html

I’ve written a beacon timing script in Perl that changes the mode and transmits the beacon. Its deployed on several stations and is rock solid. 


Sean VE6SAR 

Re: Macro with modem changes

Dave
 

I cannot emphasize this any more vigorously ... DO NOT USE WINDOWS NOTEPAD ... it mangles end-of-line character sequences ... especially on the antique operating system WINDOWS-XP.

Instead, use the built in macro editor that is integral to fldigi.



If you insist on using an external text editor, then you should install either "Geany", or "NotePad++", both excellent text editors that do not mangle the file contents.

73, David, W1HKJ


On 11/7/18 5:25 PM, Randy wrote:

Thanks!  I’ll look at that.  I have continued experimenting with this and I believe the end of line/ line return format within my macros is causing the problem I have.  Minor changes to a working macro will create random operation until I again methodically format the text within the macro.  I’m using WinXP and Notepad.

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: nbems@groups.io [mailto:nbems@groups.io] On Behalf Of Sean Smith
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 7:47 AM
To: nbems@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nbems] Macro with modem changes

 

Hi Andy,

Probably your best route is to use an external script  that accesses FLdigi’s XML-RPC interface. 

http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp-3.21/html/xmlrpc_control_page.html

I’ve written a beacon timing script in Perl that changes the mode and transmits the beacon. Its deployed on several stations and is rock solid. 


Sean VE6SAR 


Re: Macro with modem changes

Sean Smith
 

For sure David,

I just posted the script to GitHub. 
https://github.com/ve6sar/FLdigi_Scheduler

I wrote this for a 60m propagation project so it has extra code to insert when it beacons into a database. If anyone is curious about the project the check out the web page at http://auroralpower.ca

Sean VE6SAR 

 

Logbook

Larry Mundinger
 

I am using a newly compiled fldigi 4.0.18 on Linux Mint 18.3.

If I log a QSO the "Time On" and "Time Off" are both logged as the time off. However, if I instead connect to fllog 1.2.5 the "Time On" and "Time Off" are correctly logged.

The problem with using fllog is that if it is closed without saving, any new QSOs are not saved and are lost. There is no prompt to save new QSOs.

Is this normal or have I missed some configuration setting.

Larry, KG4Q

Re: Logbook

Ed W3NR
 

On 11/9/18 2:59 PM, Larry Mundinger wrote:
I am using a newly compiled fldigi 4.0.18 on Linux Mint 18.3.

If I log a QSO the "Time On" and "Time Off" are both logged as the time off. However, if I instead connect to fllog 1.2.5 the "Time On" and "Time Off" are correctly logged.

The problem with using fllog is that if it is closed without saving, any new QSOs are not saved and are lost. There is no prompt to save new QSOs.

Is this normal or have I missed some configuration setting.

Larry, KG4Q

In fldigi in the config tab/log make sure you do not have the Date Time On==Off unchecked and see if that cures the problem.

In flog File/Save. There is no prompt.

More info here::

http://www.w1hkj.com/fllog-help/index.html#sFllogDesc

Ed W3NR


Re: Logbook

Larry Mundinger
 

On 11/9/18 2:26 PM, Ed W3NR wrote:

In fldigi in the config tab/log make sure you do not have the Date Time On==Off unchecked and see if that cures the problem.

That was fast.  Thanks! Problem solved.


Larry

Which sound device should I use with fldigi?

George
 

My Lenovo T400 think pad laptop offers the following options:
 
1.  Capture  
MME devices a.)  Microsoft Sound mapper – input  b.)microphone (Realtec High Def Audio)
                    
Windows Direct Sound devices a.)Primary sound capture drivers  b.) Microphone (Realtec High Def Audio)
 
 
2.  Playback
MME devices  a.)  Microsoft Sound Mapper – output  b.) Speakers (Realtek High Def)
 
Windows Direct Sound devices    a.)Primary Sound Drivers  b.)Speakers (Realtek High Def Audio)

Can someone please tell me which ones to use for rig CAT control?  I really don't understand why so the laptop needs so many sound devices! HI

73, George, K4EOR

Re: Which sound device should I use with fldigi?

Larry Levesque
 

CAT control is over USB or Serial lines not sound cards.

The sound card would be what you ass the audio out of fldigi to in order for it to mudlate the signal.

On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 09:57:55AM -0800, George wrote:
My Lenovo T400 think pad laptop offers the following options:
 
1.  Capture  
MME devices a.)  Microsoft Sound mapper – input  b.)microphone (Realtec High Def Audio)
                    
Windows Direct Sound devices a.)Primary sound capture drivers  b.) Microphone (Realtec High Def Audio)
 
 
2.  Playback
MME devices  a.)  Microsoft Sound Mapper – output  b.) Speakers (Realtek High Def)
 
Windows Direct Sound devices    a.)Primary Sound Drivers  b.)Speakers (Realtek High Def Audio)

Can someone please tell me which ones to use for rig CAT control?  I really don't understand why so the laptop needs so many sound devices! HI

73, George, K4EOR


--
Larry Levesque
KA1VGM

Re: Which sound device should I use with fldigi?

Larry Levesque
 

Forgot a "p" in there somewhere - sorry about that.

On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 01:34:43PM -0500, Larry Levesque wrote:
CAT control is over USB or Serial lines not sound cards.

The sound card would be what you ass the audio out of fldigi to in order for it to mudlate the signal.


On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 09:57:55AM -0800, George wrote:
My Lenovo T400 think pad laptop offers the following options:
 
1.  Capture  
MME devices a.)  Microsoft Sound mapper – input  b.)microphone (Realtec High Def Audio)
                    
Windows Direct Sound devices a.)Primary sound capture drivers  b.) Microphone (Realtec High Def Audio)
 
 
2.  Playback
MME devices  a.)  Microsoft Sound Mapper – output  b.) Speakers (Realtek High Def)
 
Windows Direct Sound devices    a.)Primary Sound Drivers  b.)Speakers (Realtek High Def Audio)

Can someone please tell me which ones to use for rig CAT control?  I really don't understand why so the laptop needs so many sound devices! HI

73, George, K4EOR


--
Larry Levesque
KA1VGM


--
Larry Levesque
KA1VGM

Re: Which sound device should I use with fldigi?

David Ranch
 


I'd recommend NONE of the above.  Don't use the internal sound card with your laptop as you'll have issues with "Windows" sounds playing over the airwaves.  You can easily add another sound device to your computer:

   $6.20
   https://www.amazon.com/external-Adapter-Windows-Microphone-SD-CM-UAUD/dp/B001MSS6CS

There are lots of quality sound devices for use with Fldigi that will make things more reliable, simple, etc.

   above Syba soundcard and an EasyDigi isolation kit: +$10
   Inexpensive USB soundcard solutions w/o isolation: xggcomms (for example): $60
   Signalink w/ isolation and cable: $105
   Rigblaster Advantage - $200
   Timewave Navigator - $375

   and there are MANY other examples out there.  All depends on your budget, needs, wants
  

If you *must* use the laptop's internal sound device, you'll want to use the "b" option for both the capture and playback as you listed in your original email.


For CAT control, none of those are data ports.. you've only listed audio devices.  What radio do you have?  From there, the group can recommend options.

--David
KI6ZHD


On 11/10/2018 09:57 AM, George wrote:
My Lenovo T400 think pad laptop offers the following options:
 
1.  Capture  
MME devices a.)  Microsoft Sound mapper – input  b.)microphone (Realtec High Def Audio)
                    
Windows Direct Sound devices a.)Primary sound capture drivers  b.) Microphone (Realtec High Def Audio)
 
 
2.  Playback
MME devices  a.)  Microsoft Sound Mapper – output  b.) Speakers (Realtek High Def)
 
Windows Direct Sound devices    a.)Primary Sound Drivers  b.)Speakers (Realtek High Def Audio)

Can someone please tell me which ones to use for rig CAT control?  I really don't understand why so the laptop needs so many sound devices! HI

73, George, K4EOR

Re: Which sound device should I use with fldigi?

Marvin Penepent
 

Your radio needs a cat and a sound card. The cat is a USB-B or a DB9. If you are not using a newer radio you your will need a Signalink. Its one Cable into the back of the radio and one cable(USB) in to your computer. The Signalink will show up as a CODEC.


Larrry
KF5MLP

------ Original Message ------
From: "David Ranch" <linuxham-fld@...>
Sent: 11/10/2018 12:53:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nbems] Which sound device should I use with fldigi?


I'd recommend NONE of the above.  Don't use the internal sound card with your laptop as you'll have issues with "Windows" sounds playing over the airwaves.  You can easily add another sound device to your computer:

   $6.20
   https://www.amazon.com/external-Adapter-Windows-Microphone-SD-CM-UAUD/dp/B001MSS6CS

There are lots of quality sound devices for use with Fldigi that will make things more reliable, simple, etc.

   above Syba soundcard and an EasyDigi isolation kit: +$10
   Inexpensive USB soundcard solutions w/o isolation: xggcomms (for example): $60
   Signalink w/ isolation and cable: $105
   Rigblaster Advantage - $200
   Timewave Navigator - $375

   and there are MANY other examples out there.  All depends on your budget, needs, wants
  

If you *must* use the laptop's internal sound device, you'll want to use the "b" option for both the capture and playback as you listed in your original email.


For CAT control, none of those are data ports.. you've only listed audio devices.  What radio do you have?  From there, the group can recommend options.

--David
KI6ZHD


On 11/10/2018 09:57 AM, George wrote:
My Lenovo T400 think pad laptop offers the following options:
 
1.  Capture  
MME devices a.)  Microsoft Sound mapper – input  b.)microphone (Realtec High Def Audio)
                    
Windows Direct Sound devices a.)Primary sound capture drivers  b.) Microphone (Realtec High Def Audio)
 
 
2.  Playback
MME devices  a.)  Microsoft Sound Mapper – output  b.) Speakers (Realtek High Def)
 
Windows Direct Sound devices    a.)Primary Sound Drivers  b.)Speakers (Realtek High Def Audio)

Can someone please tell me which ones to use for rig CAT control?  I really don't understand why so the laptop needs so many sound devices! HI

73, George, K4EOR

Re: Which sound device should I use with fldigi?

k4pwo
 

Sound devices don’t do CAT control.  CAT (Computer Aided Transceiver) control is a serial protocol supported by some rigs. Principle devices for CAT control are RS-232 serial ports, CI-V ports, or USB ports.  Depending on your radio and laptop it may just be a cable or you may need additional hardware.

 

Perry K4PWO

 

From: nbems@groups.io <nbems@groups.io> On Behalf Of George
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 11:58 AM
To: nbems@groups.io
Subject: [nbems] Which sound device should I use with fldigi?

 

My Lenovo T400 think pad laptop offers the following options:

 

1.  Capture  

MME devices a.)  Microsoft Sound mapper – input  b.)microphone (Realtec High Def Audio)

                    

Windows Direct Sound devices a.)Primary sound capture drivers  b.) Microphone (Realtec High Def Audio)

 

 

2.  Playback

MME devices  a.)  Microsoft Sound Mapper – output  b.) Speakers (Realtek High Def)

 

Windows Direct Sound devices    a.)Primary Sound Drivers  b.)Speakers (Realtek High Def Audio)

Can someone please tell me which ones to use for rig CAT control?  I really don't understand why so the laptop needs so many sound devices! HI

73, George, K4EOR

Desperate for Icom-7100 FIdigi setup guidance

Robert Collier
 

I've read/listened to many videos but need guidance setting up Icom-7100 for Fidigi:  
Supplied USB cable from transceiver to computer 
Icom DATA MOD set to USB
DATA OFF MOD set to USB
CI-V Baud 19200
FIdigi Rig set using Hamlib Icom 7100 and correct port, checkmark remains after initialization

Does this all sound correct; advice?  Do I need to "DATA" as the mode on the transceiver?  Trying hard, any help would be appreciated.
Rob

Re: Desperate for Icom-7100 FIdigi setup guidance

Andrew OBrien <k3ukandy@...>
 

I would suggest you use RIGCAT in FLdigi rather than Hamlib . Then download the 7100 file in the “rigs” folder at the Flrig download site .
Andy K3UK 



On Nov 11, 2018, at 2:10 PM, Robert Collier <robcol@...> wrote:

I've read/listened to many videos but need guidance setting up Icom-7100 for Fidigi:  
Supplied USB cable from transceiver to computer 
Icom DATA MOD set to USB
DATA OFF MOD set to USB
CI-V Baud 19200
FIdigi Rig set using Hamlib Icom 7100 and correct port, checkmark remains after initialization

Does this all sound correct; advice?  Do I need to "DATA" as the mode on the transceiver?  Trying hard, any help would be appreciated.
Rob

flrig loses setup configuration?

Robert Collier
 

I have installed Fldigi and flrig, I can configure both to work but when they are closed flrig loses configuration settings, also Fldigi no longer asks to "remember configuration" when it closes; yes that selection is checked in the Fldigi settings.

Re: flrig loses setup configuration?

Larry Levesque
 

What operating system?
What version of the programs ?
Did you install them from source code?

On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 6:36 PM Robert Collier <robcol@...> wrote:
I have installed Fldigi and flrig, I can configure both to work but when they are closed flrig loses configuration settings, also Fldigi no longer asks to "remember configuration" when it closes; yes that selection is checked in the Fldigi settings.

--
Larry Levesque
KA1VGM
Cheshire County EC
NHARES