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ALE-400 Test Version 4 Working Fine

Tony
 

Patrick:

Tested version 4 with the fixed frequency option and it seems to be working just fine. With fixed enabled, the tone frequencies stay put when the RSID tries to realign with the other station.

The fixed frequency option doesn't appear to disable the automatic ACK / NAK timing correction so glad to see that feature is still in tact.

The tests were conducted off-air using two instances of Multipsk linked via VAC. Tone frequencies were rock solid with fixed engaged so I suspect that any frequency drift found on-air is likely to be caused by transceiver drift. My guess is that most sound cards are stable enough these days where drift is not a problem.

Thanks,

Tony -K2MO


Re: Repeat

Patrick Lindecker
 

Hello Rien,

 

>How can i repeat the CQ message F2 on PSK31 Mode  ??
You can repeat simply like this:

<TX>CQ CQ CQ CQ CQ DE <MY CALL> <MY CALL> <MY CALL>   CQ CQ CQ CQ CQ DE <MY CALL> <MY CALL> <MY CALL> pse K<RX>

 

You can also click on the “Repeat” button.

 

Note that when you open a “sequence” (F1, F2, F3…), you have several options available.

 

Here are several general hints:

1. About how modes look like


http://f1ult.free.fr/DIGIMODES/MULTIPSK/digimodesF6CTE_en.htm
Look at this address. You have the sound and visual identification of many
modes.

Note: the RS ID permits to identify a mode and the transmission central frequency (see the paper above).
Click on “ID” for RS ID configuration and “RX ID” to set in ON.



2) Calibration of the sound card

It is strongly recommended to calibrate the sound-card: click on the
"Adjustments" menu button, then select the "Determination of the RX/TX
sound-card sampling frequencies
" option and push on the "Determination of
the 48 KHz RX sampling frequency (test on 3 minutes)
" button. At the end of
the test, click on "Return",

3) Sound level

About the sound level ("Level" indication in % at the top of the
screen): an AF level superior or equal to 10 % is OK. About 50 % is ideal
(but not critical). In case of very low AF level, select "16 bits" in the
"Determination of the RX/TX sound-card sampling frequencies" option
("Adjustments" menu button).

4) About the help in Multipsk:

- To bring up the text manual (contextual sensitive one), click on the right
button of the mouse, with the cursor over the mode button "BPSK31", for
example, or any other button. In the example, only the BPSK31 help will be displayed.


- Also use the button hints (wait a fraction of second over a button).

 

5) About frequencies:

Click on the button "QRG" to get all the more or less HF used frequencies.

Click also on “Mode” and “Frequencies used” (for more information about frequencies).

 

6) For about CW, RTTY configuration:

Click on “Mode” for the different options (bandwidth, speed…).

 

73
Patrick

 

 

 

De : multipsk@groups.io [mailto:multipsk@groups.io] De la part de Rien Aarden
Envoyé : vendredi 6 juillet 2018 18:22
À : multipsk@groups.io
Objet : [multipsk] Repeat

 

Hello I,m New with MultiPSK 
How can i repeat the CQ message F2 on PSK31 Mode  ??
Tnx 
Rien




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Re: ALE -400 - test version 4 of Multipsk

Patrick Lindecker
 

Hello Russ,

 

>There is one last setting that we haven't discussed that has just come to mind. How should we set up regarding "Master" or "Slave"?  I'm thinking that perhaps

In fact with a fixed frequency in both side, there is no notion of Master or Slave. But it is a good question:  I’m going to delete this selection in ARQ FAE because in all cases, this status is managed internally (for ARQ FAE) and it is ambiguous for the user.

For your tests, select “SLAVE” position.

 

73

Patrick

 

 

De : multipsk@groups.io [mailto:multipsk@groups.io] De la part de Russ Tower
Envoyé : dimanche 8 juillet 2018 16:38
À : multipsk@groups.io
Objet : Re: [multipsk] ALE -400 - test version 4 of Multipsk

 

Hello Patrick,

I have test version #4 installed and I'm ready to start testing with Ted this coming week. I don't anticipate any transceiver drift, so locking in the starting frequency should be the cure.

There is one last setting that we haven't discussed that has just come to mind. How should we set up regarding "Master" or "Slave"?  I'm thinking that perhaps since turning on "FIXED" will keep us on the starting frequency, it will effectively lock the "Master" and "Slave settings out. i.e not matter how they are set. This of course is what we want. Just want to be certain about this.

I will get back to you as soon as we have done adequate testing.

Thank you for all your effort here Patrick.

73/Russ
K1DOW
 




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Re: ALE -400 - test version 4 of Multipsk

Russ Tower
 

Hello Patrick,

I have test version #4 installed and I'm ready to start testing with Ted this coming week. I don't anticipate any transceiver drift, so locking in the starting frequency should be the cure.

There is one last setting that we haven't discussed that has just come to mind. How should we set up regarding "Master" or "Slave"?  I'm thinking that perhaps since turning on "FIXED" will keep us on the starting frequency, it will effectively lock the "Master" and "Slave settings out. i.e not matter how they are set. This of course is what we want. Just want to be certain about this.

I will get back to you as soon as we have done adequate testing.

Thank you for all your effort here Patrick.

73/Russ
K1DOW
 


Re: New release of MULTIPSK (4.35) (M10 radiosonde)

David Stark
 

That is a good point.  My dictionary has more than that, but almost every SELCAL I hear is "new" and I must enter it into the dictionary file.

Thanks for verifying that the option is active, though.

-Dave, NF2G


CQ Repea Message!t #Beginner

Rien Aarden <pa7ra@...>
 

Hello I new into MultiPSK 
But I will My CQ message in PSK repeat but I cannot find ithow to do.
and Have someone macro's for me so that I have a example and that I can change it and using ?

tnx Rien, PA7RA 


Repeat

Rien Aarden <pa7ra@...>
 

Hello I,m New with MultiPSK 
How can i repeat the CQ message F2 on PSK31 Mode  ??
Tnx 
Rien


Re: New release of MULTIPSK (4.35) (M10 radiosonde)

Patrick Lindecker
 

Hello David,

 

>I can't find a way to select this as an option

The option is forced to “On” (no selection).

 

>I can't find a way to select this as an option and my copy does not appear to be checking the dictionary file when receiving SELCAL transmissions.
I checked the working and it is correct. The problem is that the dictionary has about 135 SELCAL where, in the reality, there are many more SELCAL…

 

73

Patrick

 

De : multipsk@groups.io [mailto:multipsk@groups.io] De la part de David Stark
Envoyé : dimanche 8 juillet 2018 06:31
À : multipsk@groups.io
Objet : Re: [multipsk] New release of MULTIPSK (4.35) (M10 radiosonde)

 

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 09:41 am, Patrick Lindecker wrote:

In SELCAL, possibility to use the data file ("SELCAL_DICTIONARY.txt").

I can't find a way to select this as an option and my copy does not appear to be checking the dictionary file when receiving SELCAL transmissions.

-Dave, NF2G




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Re: New release of MULTIPSK (4.35) (M10 radiosonde)

David Stark
 

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 09:41 am, Patrick Lindecker wrote:
In SELCAL, possibility to use the data file ("SELCAL_DICTIONARY.txt").
I can't find a way to select this as an option and my copy does not appear to be checking the dictionary file when receiving SELCAL transmissions.

-Dave, NF2G


Re: ALE -400 - test version 4 of Multipsk

Patrick Lindecker
 

Hello Russ,

 

>MultiPSK in my regular folder with the test version one and all is well.

It’s the way to do.

 

>If Ted gets his copy up and running over the weekend we can begin testing Monday morning!
Both of you must push the “fixed” button. The AF frequency will not move. However, of course if one transceiver drifts in frequency, you are going to lose the transmission…

 

73

Patrick

 

De : multipsk@groups.io [mailto:multipsk@groups.io] De la part de Russ Tower
Envoyé : samedi 7 juillet 2018 17:35
À : multipsk@groups.io
Objet : Re: [multipsk] ALE -400 - test version 4 of Multipsk

 

Hello Patrick,

Thank you very much for test version 4. I note that it did not install in my regular MultiPSK folder so I extracted it to it's own folder and replaced the executable MultiPSK in my regular folder with the test version one and all is well. If Ted gets his copy up and running over the weekend we can begin testing Monday morning!

73/Russ
k1DOW




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Re: ALE -400 - test version 4 of Multipsk

Russ Tower
 

Hello Patrick,

Thank you very much for test version 4. I note that it did not install in my regular MultiPSK folder so I extracted it to it's own folder and replaced the executable MultiPSK in my regular folder with the test version one and all is well. If Ted gets his copy up and running over the weekend we can begin testing Monday morning!

73/Russ
k1DOW


Re: ALE -400 - test version 4 of Multipsk

Patrick Lindecker
 

Hello Russ,

 

Here is the test version 4 of Multipsk 4.36:http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK_4_36_test_version_4.zip

 

If you push on the “Fixed” button, your own AF frequency will be fixed. So both addresses must push the “Fixed” button.

However, RS ID is not prevented (only the time synchronization is used).

 

73

Patrick

 

 

De : Patrick Lindecker [mailto:f6cte@...]
Envoyé : mardi 3 juillet 2018 21:58
À : 'multipsk@groups.io'
Objet : RE: [multipsk] ALE -400

 

Hello Russ,

 

I will propose a test version with this button, this week or next week, I hope. However, without RS ID, I’m not sure about the QSO recovery after a loss of time synchronization (I will test this). If it is not possible without RS ID, I could keep the RSID but for time synchronization only (without frequency synchronization).

 

73

Patrick

 

De : multipsk@groups.io [mailto:multipsk@groups.io] De la part de Russ Tower
Envoyé : lundi 2 juillet 2018 23:33
À : multipsk@groups.io
Objet : Re: [multipsk] ALE -400

 

Hello Patrick,

Yes, I think that the adding of the FIXED button should be the answer to the frequency seeking that we experience during deep fades. We eagerly await a test version added to the ALE-400 
/FAE operating screen that we can test.

Best Regards,

Russ Tower
K1DOW


 Patrick Lindecker

4:29pm   

 

Hello Russ,

 

I have tried a pseudo QSO with test version 3 (which prevents taking into account RS ID) on both ends. I didn’t see such frequency jumps.

However I can add do as you suggest a “Fixed” button. It will prevent transmission and reception of RS ID, in case of QSB, and it will set the AFC to “No AFC”.

Once “Fixed” set, your frequency will not move.

 

73

Patrick

 

 




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Re: Inmarsat migration setback again (POR (3F3) to Asiapac (4F1))

Patrick Lindecker
 

Thanks for the information Phil. So I will wait to remove 3F3 from the list of AERO satellites.

 

73

Patrick

 

 

 

De : multipsk@groups.io [mailto:multipsk@groups.io] De la part de Phil Walls
Envoyé : jeudi 5 juillet 2018 09:26
À : multipsk@groups.io
Objet : [multipsk] Inmarsat migration setback again

 

From the Inmarsat website : "The migration of Classic Aero, Fleet 77, Swift 64 and Inmarsat C services (to include Aero C and Mini C) from the Pacific Ocean Region (POR) I-3 satellite to the Asia/Pacific (APAC) I-4 satellite has been re-scheduled to take place on 29 August 2018 at 06:00 UTC"




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Inmarsat migration setback again

Phil Walls
 

From the Inmarsat website : "The migration of Classic Aero, Fleet 77, Swift 64 and Inmarsat C services (to include Aero C and Mini C) from the Pacific Ocean Region (POR) I-3 satellite to the Asia/Pacific (APAC) I-4 satellite has been re-scheduled to take place on 29 August 2018 at 06:00 UTC"


Re: Display-Launcher - my email address

Phil Walls
 

Thanks Mike, any news on the win7 issue?

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 9:20 AM, MadMike <virtualtrains@...> wrote:
Please note that for anyone needing support for any of the Display-Launcher modules used with MultiPSK, my email address has changed to:-

virtualtrains at tpg dot com dot au

Thanks, the old 'agene' address is no longer valid.

Mike Simpson.






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"Learn to live with what you can't rise above"


Display-Launcher - my email address

agene
 

Please note that for anyone needing support for any of the Display-Launcher modules used with MultiPSK, my email address has changed to:-

virtualtrains at tpg dot com dot au

Thanks, the old 'agene' address is no longer valid.

Mike Simpson.




Re: ALE -400

Russ Tower
 

Hello Patrick,

Yes, I think that keeping the RSID but for time synchronization only (without frequency synchronization) will be the answer to resyncing when necessary but not searching for the frequency. I eagerly await a test version that I will share with Ted, WB2LOU.

73/Russ
K1DOW


Re: ALE -400

Patrick Lindecker
 

Hello Russ,

 

I will propose a test version with this button, this week or next week, I hope. However, without RS ID, I’m not sure about the QSO recovery after a loss of time synchronization (I will test this). If it is not possible without RS ID, I could keep the RSID but for time synchronization only (without frequency synchronization).

 

73

Patrick

 

De : multipsk@groups.io [mailto:multipsk@groups.io] De la part de Russ Tower
Envoyé : lundi 2 juillet 2018 23:33
À : multipsk@groups.io
Objet : Re: [multipsk] ALE -400

 

Hello Patrick,

Yes, I think that the adding of the FIXED button should be the answer to the frequency seeking that we experience during deep fades. We eagerly await a test version added to the ALE-400 
/FAE operating screen that we can test.

Best Regards,

Russ Tower
K1DOW



 Patrick Lindecker

4:29pm   

 

Hello Russ,

 

I have tried a pseudo QSO with test version 3 (which prevents taking into account RS ID) on both ends. I didn’t see such frequency jumps.

However I can add do as you suggest a “Fixed” button. It will prevent transmission and reception of RS ID, in case of QSB, and it will set the AFC to “No AFC”.

Once “Fixed” set, your frequency will not move.

 

73

Patrick

 

 




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Re: ALE -400

Russ Tower
 

Hello Patrick,

Yes, I think that the adding of the FIXED button should be the answer to the frequency seeking that we experience during deep fades. We eagerly await a test version added to the ALE-400 
/FAE operating screen that we can test.

Best Regards,

Russ Tower
K1DOW




 Patrick Lindecker
4:29pm   

Hello Russ,

 

I have tried a pseudo QSO with test version 3 (which prevents taking into account RS ID) on both ends. I didn’t see such frequency jumps.

However I can add do as you suggest a “Fixed” button. It will prevent transmission and reception of RS ID, in case of QSB, and it will set the AFC to “No AFC”.

Once “Fixed” set, your frequency will not move.

 

73

Patrick

 


Re: ALE-400 - FAE

Patrick Lindecker
 

Hello Russ,

 

I have tried a pseudo QSO with test version 3 (which prevents taking into account RS ID) on both ends. I didn’t see such frequency jumps.

However I can add do as you suggest a “Fixed” button. It will prevent transmission and reception of RS ID, in case of QSB, and it will set the AFC to “No AFC”.

Once “Fixed” set, your frequency will not move.

 

73

Patrick

 

 

De : multipsk@groups.io [mailto:multipsk@groups.io] De la part de Russ Tower
Envoyé : lundi 2 juillet 2018 04:28
À : multipsk@groups.io
Objet : Re: [multipsk] ALE-400 - FAE

 

Hello Patrick,

There has been a new development regarding the issue we have been discussing regarding ALE-400 AFE searching frequency wise for the linked station's signal in the event of a deep fade.
I think what I am going to tell you may contain the answer to this problem.

Tonight I got an email from my friend Lee, NR5G, who told me that they had this problem going on with a station in their group when using the Olivia mode in MultPSK with AFC, etc., turned off but the FIXED button not turned on. As soon as the FIXED button was clicked on the searching problem (like we have in ALE-400 AFE mode) the problem was gone.

I looked over the ALE-400 AFE  mode screen but I could not find a "FIXED" button offered. I'm thinking that perhaps if you can offer the FIXED button function for ALE-400 FAE mode the problem will be solved.

The info presented when hovering the cursor over this FIXED button on the Olivia screen says " Lock the RX frequency (so neither frequency search nor AFC)
I think this is exactly what we need in ALE-400  FAE  mode to stop the frequency searching during a deep fade or even heavy QRM..

Bet Regard/Russ
K1DOW




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