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Re: Decoding RTTY on amateur bands #multipsk #Beginner

Robert Jansen
 

Thank you Patrick, I will try that. 

Re: Decoding RTTY on amateur bands #multipsk #Beginner

Patrick Lindecker
 

Hello,

 

Click on the “RTTY 45” button. Set your receiver on USB and leave the default “Normal” option of the “Reception“  panel. A RTTY has two peaks, click the spectrum over both peaks.

For details, consult the manual.

 

About the help in Multipsk:

 

- To bring up the text help (contextual sensitive one), click on the right button of the mouse, with the cursor over the mode button "RTTY 45", for example).

- Also use the button hints (wait a fraction of second over a button).

 

73

Patrick

 

De : multipsk@groups.io [mailto:multipsk@groups.io] De la part de Robert Jansen
Envoyé : mardi 12 novembre 2019 22:07
À : multipsk@groups.io
Objet : [multipsk] Decoding RTTY on amateur bands #multipsk #Beginner

 

Hi, since a fee days I have a registered version of multipsk and I am trying to decode RTTY on the amateurbands but without success. What settings do I use ? My receiver is a SDRDuo with sdruno software. Thank you 

Decoding RTTY on amateur bands #multipsk #Beginner

Robert Jansen
 

Hi, since a fee days I have a registered version of multipsk and I am trying to decode RTTY on the amateurbands but without success. What settings do I use ? My receiver is a SDRDuo with sdruno software. Thank you 

Re: MultiPSK interfaces with SDRs?

Patrick Lindecker
 

>now at least folks have a starting point...Mike

Nice Mike.

 

73

Patrick

 

De : multipsk@groups.io [mailto:multipsk@groups.io] De la part de mike agner
Envoyé : mardi 12 novembre 2019 00:03
À : multipsk@groups.io
Objet : Re: [multipsk] MultiPSK interfaces with SDRs?

 

All done, Patrick. Note that by policy, wiki editing is always done in the 3d person neutral, so no 'I' or 'Me'. Now let's see if we can get others to add to this.

Thanks again for the help - now at least folks have a starting point...Mike

Re: MultiPSK interfaces with SDRs?

mike agner
 

All done, Patrick. Note that by policy, wiki editing is always done in the 3d person neutral, so no 'I' or 'Me'. Now let's see if we can get others to add to this.

Thanks again for the help - now at least folks have a starting point...Mike

Re: MultiPSK interfaces with SDRs?

Patrick Lindecker
 

Hello Mike,

 

Here are my corrections highlighted in yellow and my remarks highlighted in green.

 

73

Patrick

Connect the SDRPlay RSPs via TCP IP to Multipsk

From The RadioReference Wiki

Notes

  • This capability started with version 4.39.1. As always, be sure to get the most up to date version from the website
  • These instructions are built around the RSP1; for the RSP2 (maybe other SDRPlay RSPs, too), it appears you need to start RSP_TCP.exe first, but this needs confirmation
  • A PC with some horsepower is needed for using TCP/IP. A PC with at least a 1 Ghz processor is a good starting point
  • You will need the TCP Server app, which can be found in the SDRPlay downloads page. Instructions on using the app are also there.

The rsc_tcp.exe server (with other necessary files) is included in the Multipsk package.

Instructions

Figure 1 - click to enlarge

Figure 2 - click to enlarge


When you push the SDRPlay button (figure 1), an I/Q signal will be sent through the TCP/IP server using rsp_tcp.exe. According to tests, it works with Windows 10 and possibly probably with all earlier versions of Windows. I use Vista without problem.

The sampling frequency is 250 Khz (except for ADS-B, which uses a 2 Mhz sampling frequency).

The default TCP/IP parameters are given below; they can be changed by clicking the Options (port/adress) button, which is found immediately below the SDRPlay button (figure 1).

  • The default address is 127.0.0.1. To use another server, paste the server IP address here
  • The default port is 1234. but it can be changed with the spin button. Valid values are from 1231 to 1250. This allows the use of several occurrences of Multipsk, each one connected to a different server and receiver.

If you wish to listen to the demodulated sound, click on the +Speaker button

Once you press the RX/TX Screen button, you can use the Transceiver form to control the frequency and gain. Note that the TX button on this form won't function (figure 2). In addition, references to Ham Radio Deluxe and Commander can be safely ignored.

The following DLLs and EXE files are required and are included in the Multipsk package. and should be copied to the Multipsk directory:

  • mir_sdr_api.dll
  • msvcr100.dll
  • pthreadVCE2.dll
  • vcruntime140.dll
  • rsp_rcp.exe (thanks to F4FHH Nicolas and SDRplay)

These files are yet included in the Multipsk package (no need for seach).

For RSP2 users; by clicking on the "RSP2 bias-tee", the bias-tee (4.7 V / 100 mA max at the ANT-B antenna output) can be set (On) or reset (Off). Note that this option is not stored, so, you must manually set this option each time Multipsk is started.

 

 

PSE, delete this, as it does not exist in the official version. I try to implement this but it does not work (rsp_rcp.exe does not react to these secondary parameters, only to the main ones)

You can add parameters to RSP_RCP.exe using a text editor. Insert them after the Parameters: caption. These parameters don't control the digital decoding function, rather they are used to address the SDRPlay hardware. Examples include;

-P0 for PORT A
-P1 for PORT B
-P2 for PORT HIz

For further details, read the SDRPlay RSP TCP Server Guide (note this is a PDF file)

The following options are not used. Note that MultiPSK doesn't check the user parameters to see if they are correct;

-a
-p
-s
-f

 

 

 

 

 

 

De : multipsk@groups.io [mailto:multipsk@groups.io] De la part de mike agner
Envoyé : lundi 11 novembre 2019 20:10
À : multipsk@groups.io
Objet : Re: [multipsk] MultiPSK interfaces with SDRs?

 

OK here's the first cut - it should be considered a work in progress; corrections and additions are solicited

https://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Connect_the_SDRPlay_RSPs_via_TCP_IP_to_Multipsk

Anyone can edit this with a free userid from RadioReference.

Hopefully we can do something similar for the other supported SDRs....Mike 

Re: Extended ASCII rendering #multipsk

Patrick Lindecker
 

Hello Dave,

 

>"enhanced English"

This one exists. It’s the Latin 1 table (ISO 8859-1). It’s the one used in Latin countries (at least).

In your case the problem is a question, I suppose, of Windows parameters.

 

You can, possibly, change of Multipsk font (click on the “Fonts” button at the bottom of the window). Try “Courrier” and “Courrier New”), but I guess that it will not solve the problem, but who knows?

 

73

Patrick

 

De : multipsk@groups.io [mailto:multipsk@groups.io] De la part de David Stark
Envoyé : lundi 11 novembre 2019 15:35
À : multipsk@groups.io
Objet : Re: [multipsk] Extended ASCII rendering #multipsk

 

Would it be possible to create an "enhanced English" font table for MultiPSK that would allow display of extended ASCII letters?

-Dave, NF2G

Re: MultiPSK interfaces with SDRs?

mike agner
 

OK here's the first cut - it should be considered a work in progress; corrections and additions are solicited

https://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Connect_the_SDRPlay_RSPs_via_TCP_IP_to_Multipsk

Anyone can edit this with a free userid from RadioReference.

Hopefully we can do something similar for the other supported SDRs....Mike 

Re: Extended ASCII rendering #multipsk

David Stark
 

Would it be possible to create an "enhanced English" font table for MultiPSK that would allow display of extended ASCII letters?

-Dave, NF2G

Re: MultiPSK interfaces with SDRs?

Patrick Lindecker
 

Hello Mike (Agner),

 

Thanks Mike (Simpson) for the clear answer. Here are some precisions:

 

·         For a standard use, you have to click on “SDRplay” once (with the standard port and address set to default). Afterwards, the link is automatic (it is supposed that you still have the SDRplay connected),

·         I'm assuming that to get to that, you had hit the RX/TX button
Yes.
 Mainly the Transceiver window is for Commander (DXLab) program which manages the “CAT system” of modern transceivers.  “TX” is to switch to transmission and RX to reception. Of course for a SDRPlay “TX” is inoperative.

·         And I would assume that for this window to work, you must have Commander or Ham Radio Deluxe installed.
Yes for transceivers controlled by Cat system. For SDRs, it is neither required  nor used.

·         Commander is free to use.
And works very well (if Commander is started before Multipsk, so to be automatically recognized).

·         I know that doing documentation
Yes, as you know, it is a big part of the “work”. But it permits to help the users and the developer ☺ (because our human memory is limited).
In Multipsk, the help is contextual: if you click right on a button (“BPSK31” for example) of the main window, you will get the help dedicated to the subject (PSK controls in the example). Moreover, many buttons have a hint which appears after a fraction of second over the button.

 

73

Patrick

 

De : multipsk@groups.io [mailto:multipsk@groups.io] De la part de mike agner
Envoyé : lundi 11 novembre 2019 02:17
À : multipsk@groups.io
Objet : Re: [multipsk] MultiPSK interfaces with SDRs?

 

OK thanks for the JPEGs, but as I suspected might happen, they cause more questions to be asked than those answered. What I am looking for are pictures that give some illustration to the instructions. A picture, as they say, is worth 1000 words.

On the first image, I didn't see where the port and IP addresses are being set. These are pretty much the heart of the directions, so it's important to show this. Of course I would expect that your settings would be blanked out, but we need to see that form, and precisely how you got there. Did you perhaps click on the 'SdR TCP/IP' button to get there?.

The instructions also mention a ''Transceiver' button. I'm assuming that to get to that, you had hit the RX/TX button.  I see a TX button in the Commander window; is that where you are talking about? And I would assume that for this window to work, you must have Commander or Ham Radio Deluxe installed. Happily, for us cheap folks, Commander is free to use.

I know, all these questions, but as a developer myself, I know that doing documentation is like bringing Superman Kryptonite - it's something we avoid at all costs. But for something like this, it's really essential to get something like this down so others can do it without struggling to figure it out....Thanks again...Mike

Re: MultiPSK interfaces with SDRs?

MadMike
 

Hi Mike,

Due to time differences, Patrick will be in bed now, however I can answer a couple of your queries:-

1.  You say you could not see where the port and IP addresses are being set, These are clearly shown in the first JPG - Under where it says SDRPlay the next button down is 'Options (port/address)' However there is no need for the user to change these as they are preset to 1234 and 127.0.0.1 - The RSP2 bias-T can also be activated from this button.

2. The transceiver button is on the main screen (JPG2) top row of buttons under the menu, 3rd along says 'Transceiver' - bringing up the Transceiver screen can enable the user to set his receiver freq. Whether he has a transmitter or not.

The help screens in MultiPSK are available by right-clicking any button in the program and are very well written.

Regards, Mike Simpson
South Penrith, NSW, Australia


Re: MultiPSK interfaces with SDRs?

mike agner
 

OK thanks for the JPEGs, but as I suspected might happen, they cause more questions to be asked than those answered. What I am looking for are pictures that give some illustration to the instructions. A picture, as they say, is worth 1000 words.

On the first image, I didn't see where the port and IP addresses are being set. These are pretty much the heart of the directions, so it's important to show this. Of course I would expect that your settings would be blanked out, but we need to see that form, and precisely how you got there. Did you perhaps click on the 'SdR TCP/IP' button to get there?.

The instructions also mention a ''Transceiver' button. I'm assuming that to get to that, you had hit the RX/TX button.  I see a TX button in the Commander window; is that where you are talking about? And I would assume that for this window to work, you must have Commander or Ham Radio Deluxe installed. Happily, for us cheap folks, Commander is free to use.

I know, all these questions, but as a developer myself, I know that doing documentation is like bringing Superman Kryptonite - it's something we avoid at all costs. But for something like this, it's really essential to get something like this down so others can do it without struggling to figure it out....Thanks again...Mike

Re: MultiPSK interfaces with SDRs?

Patrick Lindecker
 

Hum, the JPEGs don’t appear.

Here these two files are attached.

 

73

Patrick

 

De : Patrick Lindecker [mailto:f6cte@...]
Envoyé : dimanche 10 novembre 2019 22:52
À : 'multipsk@groups.io'
Objet : RE: [multipsk] MultiPSK interfaces with SDRs?

 

Mike,

 

Let’s say that a PC  with a speed equal or superior to 1 GHz will surely will be OK, this one with a standard memory. So any modern PC (from Windows XP to W10) is OK, except if you desire to make work several instances of Multipsk (to monitor several frequencies). In that case, you need a powerful PC.

 

Below, two JPEG to illustrate:

 

73

Patrick

De : multipsk@groups.io [mailto:multipsk@groups.io] De la part de mike agner
Envoyé : dimanche 10 novembre 2019 22:06
À : multipsk@groups.io
Objet : Re: [multipsk] MultiPSK interfaces with SDRs?

 

OK thanks Patrick. Just to get some idea of the PC requirements, what specifically are you using? A Win10 machine with what kind of processor (quad core, etc.)? How much memory? We have to give folks something to go on.

This one I toss out to the membership. I don't have a SDR at the moment. If someone would be so kind as to send me some JPEGs that reflect the instructions Patrick gave,  I would greatly appreciate it. You can touch base with me at ka3jjz (at) comcast (dot) net

Merci!     Mike 

Re: MultiPSK interfaces with SDRs?

Patrick Lindecker
 

Mike,

 

Let’s say that a PC  with a speed equal or superior to 1 GHz will surely will be OK, this one with a standard memory. So any modern PC (from Windows XP to W10) is OK, except if you desire to make work several instances of Multipsk (to monitor several frequencies). In that case, you need a powerful PC.

 

Below, two JPEG to illustrate:

 

73

Patrick

1.jpg

 

2.jpg

De : multipsk@groups.io [mailto:multipsk@groups.io] De la part de mike agner
Envoyé : dimanche 10 novembre 2019 22:06
À : multipsk@groups.io
Objet : Re: [multipsk] MultiPSK interfaces with SDRs?

 

OK thanks Patrick. Just to get some idea of the PC requirements, what specifically are you using? A Win10 machine with what kind of processor (quad core, etc.)? How much memory? We have to give folks something to go on.

This one I toss out to the membership. I don't have a SDR at the moment. If someone would be so kind as to send me some JPEGs that reflect the instructions Patrick gave,  I would greatly appreciate it. You can touch base with me at ka3jjz (at) comcast (dot) net

Merci!     Mike 

Re: MultiPSK interfaces with SDRs?

mike agner
 

OK thanks Patrick. Just to get some idea of the PC requirements, what specifically are you using? A Win10 machine with what kind of processor (quad core, etc.)? How much memory? We have to give folks something to go on.

This one I toss out to the membership. I don't have a SDR at the moment. If someone would be so kind as to send me some JPEGs that reflect the instructions Patrick gave,  I would greatly appreciate it. You can touch base with me at ka3jjz (at) comcast (dot) net

Merci!     Mike 

Re: MultiPSK interfaces with SDRs?

Patrick Lindecker
 

Hello Mike,

 

>a. What would be the minimum PC configuration needed to run TCP/IP? 
A PC with Windows installed. I’ve not tried with all Windows versions and with all the configurations. Now here, for Windows Vista and W10 it works. Moreover, it is simple for the user to test (a button to push).

 

>b. This capability started with what version?

With the 4.39.1 (for SDRplay).

 

>c. This seems to work only with the RSP1, but not the others, including the new RSPdx? At least from the recent traffic it seems there are some differences in how the RSP2 >communicates

For RSP1 it works (I have one). For RSP2 and more, it seems that it depends on the configuration. It seems that to previously start RSP_TCP.exe solves the problem (but I don’t know if it applies to all RSPx and in all cases).

 

>d. Can I access the various forms mentioned in the doc without having a SDRPlay? Having some JPEGs would help illustrate the instructions 
No, but it’s enough to have a RTL_SDR dongle and to push on “rtl_tcp.exe”.
It’s similar (a TCP/IP link). I have no set of JPEG, sorry.

 

73

Patrick


 

De : multipsk@groups.io [mailto:multipsk@groups.io] De la part de mike agner
Envoyé : dimanche 10 novembre 2019 17:24
À : multipsk@groups.io
Objet : Re: [multipsk] MultiPSK interfaces with SDRs?

 

OK I've finished my first pass at cleaning this up (I need to go through it again), but there are some more details that need some help;

a. What would be the minimum PC configuration needed to run TCP/IP? 

b. This capability started with what version?

c. This seems to work only with the RSP1, but not the others, including the new RSPdx? At least from the recent traffic it seems there are some differences in how the RSP2 communicates

d. Can I access the various forms mentioned in the doc without having a SDRPlay? Having some JPEGs would help illustrate the instructions 

Thanks for all of this Patrick - much appreciated...Mike

Re: MultiPSK interfaces with SDRs?

mike agner
 

OK I've finished my first pass at cleaning this up (I need to go through it again), but there are some more details that need some help;

a. What would be the minimum PC configuration needed to run TCP/IP? 

b. This capability started with what version?

c. This seems to work only with the RSP1, but not the others, including the new RSPdx? At least from the recent traffic it seems there are some differences in how the RSP2 communicates

d. Can I access the various forms mentioned in the doc without having a SDRPlay? Having some JPEGs would help illustrate the instructions 

Thanks for all of this Patrick - much appreciated...Mike

Re: Extended ASCII rendering #multipsk

Sergio Sarabia
 

The list has long been published without extended ASCII to be compatible with any language. It is recommended to always download the latest update.


De: multipsk@groups.io <multipsk@groups.io> en nombre de Patrick Lindecker <f6cte@...>
Enviado: domingo, 10 de noviembre de 2019 10:46
Para: multipsk@groups.io <multipsk@groups.io>
Asunto: Re: [multipsk] Extended ASCII rendering #multipsk
 

Hello Mike,

 

I check VDL2 with your configuration, modifying the program to see Montréal .

I got this “… (Ground Station, delegated address [CYUL Montréal-Pierre Elliott Trudeau International])”.

However, my PC is set for French language.

 

So the problem is perhaps related to some Windows parameters (linguistic parameters). As your PC is set for English (I suppose that you are an English speaker), it is perhaps not supposed to display accented characters.

 

73

Patrick

 

De : multipsk@groups.io [mailto:multipsk@groups.io] De la part de David Stark
Envoyé : dimanche 3 novembre 2019 16:11
À : multipsk@groups.io
Objet : Re: [multipsk] Extended ASCII rendering #multipsk

 

I had to heavily edit the original files because they contain many name and location errors for airports.  Also, the lat/long info serves no purpose in MultiPSK and only takes up screen space.

This is the line from my file:

1014FA [CYUL Montréal-Pierre Elliott Trudeau International] [Montréal QC]

-Dave, NF2G

Re: vdl2 multipsk

Patrick Lindecker
 

Hello,

Could the problem be Win10 64 bits professinal ?
No, Windows 64 bits is compatible with Windows 32 bits programs as Multipsk.

If you receiver is a RTL-SDR or a SDRplay, try to interface directly to Multipsk.
Look at the manual (click right over some VDL2 button to look at it). See the documents and videos about VDL2 from my WEB site: http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm

73
Patrick

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De : multipsk@groups.io [mailto:multipsk@groups.io] De la part de tomandy
Envoyé : samedi 9 novembre 2019 10:16
À : multipsk@groups.io
Objet : [multipsk] vdl2 multipsk


I have tried to receive vdl2 with sharp, vb en multipsk.
I see the beeps in Sharp, but multipsk decode nothing. I have tried it for days.
Could the problem be Win10 64 bits professinal ?


Tomandy.

Re: JT65 Mode

Frank J DAELEMANS ZS1CM
 

Has been a while i copied JT9/65 on 20, 17, 15 meter band here at the bottom end of the Africa Continent...

73 es GL

vincent wrote on 8 Nov 2019

>
> Greetings,
> I used to receive fairly often JT65 signals on 17 meters, but I have not seen any JT65
> signals in
> quiteawhile now. Anyone else receiving JT65?

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