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Re: Off to Greece!

Carol Weaver
 

Hi Clara

Hope you are keeping well. Haven’t seen you post for ages

😄😄👍

Carol

On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 at 21:18, clara pascual via Groups.Io <balta_arias=yahoo.es@groups.io> wrote:
We have been in all those countries in our way to Greece twice. No problems at all.
This year is gonna be our 3rd time

Clara Pascual


El 26 abr 2019, a las 17:39, Buff via Groups.Io <huffbuffforums@...> escribió:

I've asked a friend for her comments on this. She and her partner travelled last year to Istanbul via Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria, then returned via Greece, Albania, Montenegro and Bosnia Herzegovina. She loved Montenegro in particular. She has written as follows about the return trip:

 
Our trip back from Greece was through Albania, Montenegro, Bosnia & Herzegovina, then back into the EU (Croatia, Slovenia, Italy, Austria, Germany, Luxembourg, Belgium, France).  We unfortunately didn't have time to visit Macedonia or Serbia but would have liked to.  I would very highly recommend visiting the Balkans - especially Montenegro which was by far the most beautiful, breathtaking country of the whole trip.  Car insurance was not at all a problem.  There are offices at every major border to the countries where you can buy a green card.  This is usually a fixed price (roughly 50 euros for a month for each country).  We bought it at the border and then showed it to the border control as we passed through, along with our V5C.  At one border (Montenegro to Bosnia), the insurance booth was closed and the Bosnian border patrol officer was very helpful, said we can pick up a green card for Bosnia from a booth just back over in Montenegro.  We just did a U-turn, explained what we needed to the Montenegrin border officer and went to go and get one. I think actually it was 7 days green card and didn't cost too much, maybe 20 euros (make sure you carry cash as most of these places don't take card).  The Montenegrin border guy was totally fine - he held our passports while we went to get the green card as we explained we weren't returning to the country, just needed the shop.  Passport was then duly returned and we carried on into Bosnia no problems.
 
If you choose to go this route, I have a few must-see recommendations!...
 
Montenegro - there is nothing like exploring this country in a campervan, stunning!  Do not miss driving through Durmitor National Park.  We were travelling from Zabljek to Pluzine and the sat nav really wanted us to go all the way down and up again on the highway.  We instead followed a winding road (a quick Google Maps search suggests it's called the P14) and were rewarded with the most incredible views across the mountains.  Even Gavin was forced to admit that even Scotland isn't a patch on this!  We passed a couple of vans setting up for the night and wished we'd had more time to do the same, but we'd booked white water rafting near Pluzine (along the Tara River - the worlds 2nd deepest canyon after the Colorado River canyon) and had to crack on.  Speaking of Pluzine, there is a great little jazz cafe/restaurant/guest house called Zvono - one of the best meals of the trip, according to Gavin.  We also quite enjoyed the local lager, called Niksicko Pivo.
 
Just over the border by lake Shkodra on the Albanian side, there is an absolutely fantastic campsite.  As you know, we mostly wild camped but my goodness if all campsites were like this one then we would camp more often!  Very reasonable, very secure and safe, very international, very clean.  It's right on the shores of the lake with options for tents, campers and even glamping if you fancy renting a lodge.  There was a long jetty/pier walkway stretching out over the vegetation on the edge of the lake to the middle where you could jump off and swim.  Utterly idyllic.  There is a good restaurant on site too, with good and reasonable local cuisine.  We'd have happily stayed there three more night if we could.
 
Albania's tourism industry is rapidly growing (perhaps too rapidly with a lack of sophistication and real understanding of what travellers may look for in a country?  I missed seeing the "real" Albania but couldn't move for beach side resorts...) - it's billed as the Albania Riviera with the stunning coast but at a fraction of the cost of the equivalent in France.  As such there are tons of motorhomes everywhere and so it was hard to find a decent wild camping spot by the coast.  That said, the campsites or parking spaces are inexpensive.  We found a beautiful spot in a field right by the sea for a measly 5 euros, in amongst the goats!  I think we mostly found these places on park4night.
 
In Tirana I'd recommend a trip to BunkArt - this is an insanely huge underground bunker built by order of an ageing and increasingly paranoid Hoxha.  It is 5 storeys deep in the heart of the capital, built to house the whole government if needed.  It's now been opened to the public as a art gallery/museum.  Really fascinating.  There are over a quarter of a million bunkers of various sizes all over the country!!
 
Our favourite spot we parked, across the whole 5 months away, was at Lake Prespa, in Northern Greece.  Prespa lies at the border of Greece, Albania and N Macedonia.  We found the most idyllic of all spots via park4night.  I feel like those people who don't want to share a good spot so it's not ruined but I couldn't be so selfish as to keep this one to myself, it's just too beautiful!  If we'd had more time, we'd have liked to also explore Lake Ohrid particularly on the Macedonia side.  We chose not to drive into Macedonia as it would have cost another 50 euros for the insurance and we'd only have been able to spare one day.  Instead we diverted back South to drive to the Albanian cost, via the Blue Eye spring.  If you have time, however, why would you not include it in your visit?
 
I haven't mentioned anything about Bosnia & Herzegovina.  We only managed to get 2 nights there, not even enough time to swing by Sarajevo.  We had such a tight schedule to get back - to put it into context, after Bosnia we went back down to Dubrovnik (couldn't go all the way there and miss that!) and then realised that we had a ferry booked from Calais in 7 days yikes!  In Bosnia, we visited Mostar and then the utterly beautiful town of Pocitlj - a pedestrian town built in stone set up the hillside with paths lined with pomegranate trees and the ever present olive trees.  From the castle ruins at the top you look down over the minaret of the mosque down to the river, where the sun set.  We only got a couple of hours there but I can see it as clearly as if I was still there.


That's all my friend has had time to write. I hope this might encourage a few more of us to consider venturing into these countries.

Hugh

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Re: Off to Greece!

clara pascual
 

We have been in all those countries in our way to Greece twice. No problems at all.
This year is gonna be our 3rd time

Clara Pascual


El 26 abr 2019, a las 17:39, Buff via Groups.Io <huffbuffforums@...> escribió:

I've asked a friend for her comments on this. She and her partner travelled last year to Istanbul via Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria, then returned via Greece, Albania, Montenegro and Bosnia Herzegovina. She loved Montenegro in particular. She has written as follows about the return trip:

 
Our trip back from Greece was through Albania, Montenegro, Bosnia & Herzegovina, then back into the EU (Croatia, Slovenia, Italy, Austria, Germany, Luxembourg, Belgium, France).  We unfortunately didn't have time to visit Macedonia or Serbia but would have liked to.  I would very highly recommend visiting the Balkans - especially Montenegro which was by far the most beautiful, breathtaking country of the whole trip.  Car insurance was not at all a problem.  There are offices at every major border to the countries where you can buy a green card.  This is usually a fixed price (roughly 50 euros for a month for each country).  We bought it at the border and then showed it to the border control as we passed through, along with our V5C.  At one border (Montenegro to Bosnia), the insurance booth was closed and the Bosnian border patrol officer was very helpful, said we can pick up a green card for Bosnia from a booth just back over in Montenegro.  We just did a U-turn, explained what we needed to the Montenegrin border officer and went to go and get one. I think actually it was 7 days green card and didn't cost too much, maybe 20 euros (make sure you carry cash as most of these places don't take card).  The Montenegrin border guy was totally fine - he held our passports while we went to get the green card as we explained we weren't returning to the country, just needed the shop.  Passport was then duly returned and we carried on into Bosnia no problems.
 
If you choose to go this route, I have a few must-see recommendations!...
 
Montenegro - there is nothing like exploring this country in a campervan, stunning!  Do not miss driving through Durmitor National Park.  We were travelling from Zabljek to Pluzine and the sat nav really wanted us to go all the way down and up again on the highway.  We instead followed a winding road (a quick Google Maps search suggests it's called the P14) and were rewarded with the most incredible views across the mountains.  Even Gavin was forced to admit that even Scotland isn't a patch on this!  We passed a couple of vans setting up for the night and wished we'd had more time to do the same, but we'd booked white water rafting near Pluzine (along the Tara River - the worlds 2nd deepest canyon after the Colorado River canyon) and had to crack on.  Speaking of Pluzine, there is a great little jazz cafe/restaurant/guest house called Zvono - one of the best meals of the trip, according to Gavin.  We also quite enjoyed the local lager, called Niksicko Pivo.
 
Just over the border by lake Shkodra on the Albanian side, there is an absolutely fantastic campsite.  As you know, we mostly wild camped but my goodness if all campsites were like this one then we would camp more often!  Very reasonable, very secure and safe, very international, very clean.  It's right on the shores of the lake with options for tents, campers and even glamping if you fancy renting a lodge.  There was a long jetty/pier walkway stretching out over the vegetation on the edge of the lake to the middle where you could jump off and swim.  Utterly idyllic.  There is a good restaurant on site too, with good and reasonable local cuisine.  We'd have happily stayed there three more night if we could.
 
Albania's tourism industry is rapidly growing (perhaps too rapidly with a lack of sophistication and real understanding of what travellers may look for in a country?  I missed seeing the "real" Albania but couldn't move for beach side resorts...) - it's billed as the Albania Riviera with the stunning coast but at a fraction of the cost of the equivalent in France.  As such there are tons of motorhomes everywhere and so it was hard to find a decent wild camping spot by the coast.  That said, the campsites or parking spaces are inexpensive.  We found a beautiful spot in a field right by the sea for a measly 5 euros, in amongst the goats!  I think we mostly found these places on park4night.
 
In Tirana I'd recommend a trip to BunkArt - this is an insanely huge underground bunker built by order of an ageing and increasingly paranoid Hoxha.  It is 5 storeys deep in the heart of the capital, built to house the whole government if needed.  It's now been opened to the public as a art gallery/museum.  Really fascinating.  There are over a quarter of a million bunkers of various sizes all over the country!!
 
Our favourite spot we parked, across the whole 5 months away, was at Lake Prespa, in Northern Greece.  Prespa lies at the border of Greece, Albania and N Macedonia.  We found the most idyllic of all spots via park4night.  I feel like those people who don't want to share a good spot so it's not ruined but I couldn't be so selfish as to keep this one to myself, it's just too beautiful!  If we'd had more time, we'd have liked to also explore Lake Ohrid particularly on the Macedonia side.  We chose not to drive into Macedonia as it would have cost another 50 euros for the insurance and we'd only have been able to spare one day.  Instead we diverted back South to drive to the Albanian cost, via the Blue Eye spring.  If you have time, however, why would you not include it in your visit?
 
I haven't mentioned anything about Bosnia & Herzegovina.  We only managed to get 2 nights there, not even enough time to swing by Sarajevo.  We had such a tight schedule to get back - to put it into context, after Bosnia we went back down to Dubrovnik (couldn't go all the way there and miss that!) and then realised that we had a ferry booked from Calais in 7 days yikes!  In Bosnia, we visited Mostar and then the utterly beautiful town of Pocitlj - a pedestrian town built in stone set up the hillside with paths lined with pomegranate trees and the ever present olive trees.  From the castle ruins at the top you look down over the minaret of the mosque down to the river, where the sun set.  We only got a couple of hours there but I can see it as clearly as if I was still there.


That's all my friend has had time to write. I hope this might encourage a few more of us to consider venturing into these countries.

Hugh


Re: Off to Greece!

Buff and Hugh
 

Our friend has added some more advice on insurance and breakdown cover in the Balkans.

On insurance: "it's possible to buy green cards / insurance for the the Balkans and Turkey in advance, there are UK based insurance brokers.  However we found they were much more expensive and with less flexibility.  We remember reading of scams where border control officers don't recognise these advance papers but we are dubious as we never had any trouble crossing any borders and found the officers to be professional and helpful."

For breakdown cover they opted for RAC Zone 3 (all of Europe) cover. "Well worth it"!


Re: Using an awning without an awning rail.

Alan Morris
 

Thanks for info Neill.  Just placed order for both.

Alan.


On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 at 18:51, Motorcaravanning.co.uk (Neill King) <neill@...> wrote:

You can use the site search to find the page with the part number 307205

http://www.motorcaravanning.co.uk/shopuk/faqs_finding_stuff.htm

 




Re: Using an awning without an awning rail.

Bennett Family
 

Thanks Neill.

Martin

On 27 Apr 2019, at 19:56, Neill King &#92;(MH-List&#92;) via Groups.Io <yahoo=motorcaravanning.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

It is yes, but not all negative as you assume!

A big problem with most adhesive sealants is sticking things to vertical surfaces - when adding both support and mild pressure for hours or even days waiting for a partial cure is a real problem (as is any slump that occurs).

High grab material is easier to work with in these circumstances and so MS5 is much liked by workshops! (alongside both low grab and non-setting sealants, each has its place).


Best regards

Neill
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www.motorcaravanning.co.uk 01789-778825 551345165
neill@... motorcaravanning@...
---------------------------------------------------------
A great on-line motorhome parts & accessory shop & reference




-----Original Message-----
From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bennett Family
Sent: 27 April 2019 15:03
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [motorhome-list] Using an awning without an awning rail.

Neil,

What does “high-grab” mean?

Does it just stick quicker with less option for movement when I’ve done it wrong?

Martin
On 27 Apr 2019, at 13:27, Neill King &#92;(MH-List&#92;) via Groups.Io <yahoo=motorcaravanning.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Why not simply glue on some awning rail? Thule offer a posh white coated roughly 35mm wide mounting rail (for their add-on-tents like Quickfit) complete with awning rail slot. Our customers bond these onto their vehicles with MS5 usually (like Sikaflex but high-grab). Used to attach 'Safari-room' skirts too. Fit & forget as they say.

Best regards

Neill
----------------------------------------------
www.motorcaravanning.co.uk 01789-778825 551345165
neill@... motorcaravanning@...
---------------------------------------------------------
A great on-line motorhome parts & accessory shop & reference




-----Original Message-----
From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Morris
Sent: 26 April 2019 21:58
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [motorhome-list] Using an awning without an awning rail.

Thanks to both Steves.

I have a set of 4 heavy duty suction pads designed to place on the
roof of a car to carry a heavy load.

My concern is delaminating the composite walls and damaging the surface.

There are many pump-up awnings, but none include tubes to press
against the motorhome walls.

Alan.











Re: Using an awning without an awning rail.

Neill King \(MH-List\)
 

It is yes, but not all negative as you assume!

A big problem with most adhesive sealants is sticking things to vertical surfaces - when adding both support and mild pressure for hours or even days waiting for a partial cure is a real problem (as is any slump that occurs).

High grab material is easier to work with in these circumstances and so MS5 is much liked by workshops! (alongside both low grab and non-setting sealants, each has its place).


Best regards

Neill
----------------------------------------------
www.motorcaravanning.co.uk 01789-778825 551345165
neill@... motorcaravanning@...
---------------------------------------------------------
A great on-line motorhome parts & accessory shop & reference

-----Original Message-----
From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bennett Family
Sent: 27 April 2019 15:03
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [motorhome-list] Using an awning without an awning rail.

Neil,

What does “high-grab” mean?

Does it just stick quicker with less option for movement when I’ve done it wrong?

Martin
On 27 Apr 2019, at 13:27, Neill King &#92;(MH-List&#92;) via Groups.Io <yahoo=motorcaravanning.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Why not simply glue on some awning rail? Thule offer a posh white coated roughly 35mm wide mounting rail (for their add-on-tents like Quickfit) complete with awning rail slot. Our customers bond these onto their vehicles with MS5 usually (like Sikaflex but high-grab). Used to attach 'Safari-room' skirts too. Fit & forget as they say.

Best regards

Neill
----------------------------------------------
www.motorcaravanning.co.uk 01789-778825 551345165
neill@... motorcaravanning@...
---------------------------------------------------------
A great on-line motorhome parts & accessory shop & reference




-----Original Message-----
From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Morris
Sent: 26 April 2019 21:58
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [motorhome-list] Using an awning without an awning rail.

Thanks to both Steves.

I have a set of 4 heavy duty suction pads designed to place on the
roof of a car to carry a heavy load.

My concern is delaminating the composite walls and damaging the surface.

There are many pump-up awnings, but none include tubes to press
against the motorhome walls.

Alan.






Re: Using an awning without an awning rail.

Bennett Family
 

Neil,

What does “high-grab” mean?

Does it just stick quicker with less option for movement when I’ve done it wrong?

Martin

On 27 Apr 2019, at 13:27, Neill King &#92;(MH-List&#92;) via Groups.Io <yahoo=motorcaravanning.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Why not simply glue on some awning rail? Thule offer a posh white coated roughly 35mm wide mounting rail (for their add-on-tents like Quickfit) complete with awning rail slot. Our customers bond these onto their vehicles with MS5 usually (like Sikaflex but high-grab). Used to attach 'Safari-room' skirts too. Fit & forget as they say.

Best regards

Neill
----------------------------------------------
www.motorcaravanning.co.uk 01789-778825 551345165
neill@... motorcaravanning@...
---------------------------------------------------------
A great on-line motorhome parts & accessory shop & reference




-----Original Message-----
From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Morris
Sent: 26 April 2019 21:58
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [motorhome-list] Using an awning without an awning rail.

Thanks to both Steves.

I have a set of 4 heavy duty suction pads designed to place on the
roof of a car to carry a heavy load.

My concern is delaminating the composite walls and damaging the surface.

There are many pump-up awnings, but none include tubes to press
against the motorhome walls.

Alan.






Re: Using an awning without an awning rail.

Neill King \(MH-List\)
 

Why not simply glue on some awning rail? Thule offer a posh white coated roughly 35mm wide mounting rail (for their add-on-tents like Quickfit) complete with awning rail slot. Our customers bond these onto their vehicles with MS5 usually (like Sikaflex but high-grab). Used to attach 'Safari-room' skirts too. Fit & forget as they say.

Best regards

Neill
----------------------------------------------
www.motorcaravanning.co.uk 01789-778825 551345165
neill@... motorcaravanning@...
---------------------------------------------------------
A great on-line motorhome parts & accessory shop & reference

-----Original Message-----
From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Morris
Sent: 26 April 2019 21:58
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [motorhome-list] Using an awning without an awning rail.

Thanks to both Steves.

I have a set of 4 heavy duty suction pads designed to place on the
roof of a car to carry a heavy load.

My concern is delaminating the composite walls and damaging the surface.

There are many pump-up awnings, but none include tubes to press
against the motorhome walls.

Alan.


Re: Using an awning without an awning rail.

Alan Morris
 

Thanks to both Steves.

I have a set of 4 heavy duty suction pads designed to place on the
roof of a car to carry a heavy load.

My concern is delaminating the composite walls and damaging the surface.

There are many pump-up awnings, but none include tubes to press
against the motorhome walls.

Alan.


Re: Off to Greece!

Buff and Hugh
 

I've asked a friend for her comments on this. She and her partner travelled last year to Istanbul via Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria, then returned via Greece, Albania, Montenegro and Bosnia Herzegovina. She loved Montenegro in particular. She has written as follows about the return trip:

 
Our trip back from Greece was through Albania, Montenegro, Bosnia & Herzegovina, then back into the EU (Croatia, Slovenia, Italy, Austria, Germany, Luxembourg, Belgium, France).  We unfortunately didn't have time to visit Macedonia or Serbia but would have liked to.  I would very highly recommend visiting the Balkans - especially Montenegro which was by far the most beautiful, breathtaking country of the whole trip.  Car insurance was not at all a problem.  There are offices at every major border to the countries where you can buy a green card.  This is usually a fixed price (roughly 50 euros for a month for each country).  We bought it at the border and then showed it to the border control as we passed through, along with our V5C.  At one border (Montenegro to Bosnia), the insurance booth was closed and the Bosnian border patrol officer was very helpful, said we can pick up a green card for Bosnia from a booth just back over in Montenegro.  We just did a U-turn, explained what we needed to the Montenegrin border officer and went to go and get one. I think actually it was 7 days green card and didn't cost too much, maybe 20 euros (make sure you carry cash as most of these places don't take card).  The Montenegrin border guy was totally fine - he held our passports while we went to get the green card as we explained we weren't returning to the country, just needed the shop.  Passport was then duly returned and we carried on into Bosnia no problems.
 
If you choose to go this route, I have a few must-see recommendations!...
 
Montenegro - there is nothing like exploring this country in a campervan, stunning!  Do not miss driving through Durmitor National Park.  We were travelling from Zabljek to Pluzine and the sat nav really wanted us to go all the way down and up again on the highway.  We instead followed a winding road (a quick Google Maps search suggests it's called the P14) and were rewarded with the most incredible views across the mountains.  Even Gavin was forced to admit that even Scotland isn't a patch on this!  We passed a couple of vans setting up for the night and wished we'd had more time to do the same, but we'd booked white water rafting near Pluzine (along the Tara River - the worlds 2nd deepest canyon after the Colorado River canyon) and had to crack on.  Speaking of Pluzine, there is a great little jazz cafe/restaurant/guest house called Zvono - one of the best meals of the trip, according to Gavin.  We also quite enjoyed the local lager, called Niksicko Pivo.
 
Just over the border by lake Shkodra on the Albanian side, there is an absolutely fantastic campsite.  As you know, we mostly wild camped but my goodness if all campsites were like this one then we would camp more often!  Very reasonable, very secure and safe, very international, very clean.  It's right on the shores of the lake with options for tents, campers and even glamping if you fancy renting a lodge.  There was a long jetty/pier walkway stretching out over the vegetation on the edge of the lake to the middle where you could jump off and swim.  Utterly idyllic.  There is a good restaurant on site too, with good and reasonable local cuisine.  We'd have happily stayed there three more night if we could.
 
Albania's tourism industry is rapidly growing (perhaps too rapidly with a lack of sophistication and real understanding of what travellers may look for in a country?  I missed seeing the "real" Albania but couldn't move for beach side resorts...) - it's billed as the Albania Riviera with the stunning coast but at a fraction of the cost of the equivalent in France.  As such there are tons of motorhomes everywhere and so it was hard to find a decent wild camping spot by the coast.  That said, the campsites or parking spaces are inexpensive.  We found a beautiful spot in a field right by the sea for a measly 5 euros, in amongst the goats!  I think we mostly found these places on park4night.
 
In Tirana I'd recommend a trip to BunkArt - this is an insanely huge underground bunker built by order of an ageing and increasingly paranoid Hoxha.  It is 5 storeys deep in the heart of the capital, built to house the whole government if needed.  It's now been opened to the public as a art gallery/museum.  Really fascinating.  There are over a quarter of a million bunkers of various sizes all over the country!!
 
Our favourite spot we parked, across the whole 5 months away, was at Lake Prespa, in Northern Greece.  Prespa lies at the border of Greece, Albania and N Macedonia.  We found the most idyllic of all spots via park4night.  I feel like those people who don't want to share a good spot so it's not ruined but I couldn't be so selfish as to keep this one to myself, it's just too beautiful!  If we'd had more time, we'd have liked to also explore Lake Ohrid particularly on the Macedonia side.  We chose not to drive into Macedonia as it would have cost another 50 euros for the insurance and we'd only have been able to spare one day.  Instead we diverted back South to drive to the Albanian cost, via the Blue Eye spring.  If you have time, however, why would you not include it in your visit?
 
I haven't mentioned anything about Bosnia & Herzegovina.  We only managed to get 2 nights there, not even enough time to swing by Sarajevo.  We had such a tight schedule to get back - to put it into context, after Bosnia we went back down to Dubrovnik (couldn't go all the way there and miss that!) and then realised that we had a ferry booked from Calais in 7 days yikes!  In Bosnia, we visited Mostar and then the utterly beautiful town of Pocitlj - a pedestrian town built in stone set up the hillside with paths lined with pomegranate trees and the ever present olive trees.  From the castle ruins at the top you look down over the minaret of the mosque down to the river, where the sun set.  We only got a couple of hours there but I can see it as clearly as if I was still there.


That's all my friend has had time to write. I hope this might encourage a few more of us to consider venturing into these countries.

Hugh


Re: Off to Greece!

Buff and Hugh
 

We've only been as far as Croatia, so can't offer any personal advice about places further south. However, we did encounter people who had been in Serbia, Montenegro and Albania and suggested it was reasonably straightforward. Various bloggers have been that way. One blog in particular that we have found very useful is https://ourtour.co.uk/home/ I don't think they've been in Montenegro, Albania or North Macedonia, but they have been in most other countries.

Regarding tips on places between the UK and Slovenia, see this thread https://groups.io/g/motorhome-list/topic/29700431#100137

Regarding parking near Folkestone, https://park4night.com/ has several suggestions ranging from campsites, through pubs to wild camping. The "aire" at Canterbury Park&Ride has been highly recommended.

I hope this is helpful.

Hugh


Re: Using an awning without an awning rail.

Steve Pyke
 

Hi,

I have used those heavy duty suction pads from Amazon successfully as long as there aren't any decals or rough bits on the normal aluminium panels, but only to hold a lightweight sunsail type of awning and never left up for a long period of time. They really do stay put and haven't marked the paint surface.

Steve


Re: Using an awning without an awning rail.

Steve
 

Hi Alan,

I assume you're not expecting to hang a Fiamma roll-up awning off suction cups ;-)

A friend has a Hymer and he uses Ikea suction hooks to help secure a screen protector, much smaller than an awning but he drives round with the hooks still on the side of the van and they don't fall off. They're obviously not in the same league strength-wise but much cheaper and I wonder if they would work. It says they support 3 Kgs.

The Ikea hooks seem to have changed slightly. They used to have a screw-on part to tighten the suction. Now they seem to have a push action.

https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/products/small-storage-organisers/bathroom-accessories/tisken-hook-with-suction-cup-white-art-70381275/

I have one of the old screw-type ones with a toothbrush/paste holder stuck on the mirror in my van and I can only remember it dropping off once in 4 years. The suction is very good on a very smooth surface.

Steve.


Using an awning without an awning rail.

Alan Morris
 

Our Hymer motorhome does not have an awning rail.

Has anyone used vacuum pads, such as seen here?:-

<https://www.amazon.co.uk/2pcs-Suction-Anchor-attachment-drilling/dp/B01M59JPQ9>

Alan


Re: Off to Greece!

penstrassoe <penstrassoe@...>
 

In 2012, for our first trip, we drove from Roscoff (we live in Cornwall) to Bari in Italy. Like Brian we used the "Camper deck" option and slept our way across to Ignoumenitsa. On the return trip we took a ferry up the Adriatic to Venice- arriving there as the sun was rising was a delight.

Dave


Re: Off to Greece!

BRIAN MATTHEWS
 

Hi Brian.
In 2000, blimey, so long ago, I went from Uk to Greece, via Venice.  Took the ferry Patras. Overnight, most of it, sleeping in your own van, with electric supplied.  Onboard showers etc.  Very relaxing, no driving down to greece from Venice.  Then went across to Kefalonia. I think it will be much better than driving down through Nth Macedonia.


Re: Off to Greece!

Carol Weaver
 


Forgot link ☹️🤔

On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 09:01, Carol Weaver via Groups.Io <corconx=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Brian. Here is link to their website

Karen and Myles originally took a year out but now just completed their third.    

They are great at information. Browse through it all

Carol

On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 08:26, Neill King &#92;(MH-List&#92;) <yahoo@...> wrote:

When I was doing some research last year much of the Balkans were still pretty much off limits for motorhome trips. The route via Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria was the overland route to Greece.

 

 

Best regards

Neill
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From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandytrax
Sent: 23 April 2019 10:37
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: [motorhome-list] Off to Greece!

 

Hi folks
I'm planning a trip to Greece using Eurotunnel on 1 May.
I've been there in my previous van many years ago and travelled via Switzerland and Italy with ferry to Igoumenitsa.
I've checked out routes on ViaMichelin and quite fancy the overland route via Austria, Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia and North Macedonia.

I would welcome any tips, good places to visit en route.
I'm wondering how North Macedonia might be - it's not included in my van insurance policy.
And I would welcome recommendations for overnight parking at/near the Eurotunnel terminal at Folkstone.

Thanks folks
Cheers!
Brian

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Re: Off to Greece!

Carol Weaver
 

Brian. Here is link to their website

Karen and Myles originally took a year out but now just completed their third.    

They are great at information. Browse through it all

Carol

On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 08:26, Neill King &#92;(MH-List&#92;) <yahoo@...> wrote:

When I was doing some research last year much of the Balkans were still pretty much off limits for motorhome trips. The route via Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria was the overland route to Greece.

 

 

Best regards

Neill
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www.motorcaravanning.co.uk 01789-778825 551345165

neill@... motorcaravanning@...

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On-line motorhome parts & accessory shop with added information

 

 

 

From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandytrax
Sent: 23 April 2019 10:37
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: [motorhome-list] Off to Greece!

 

Hi folks
I'm planning a trip to Greece using Eurotunnel on 1 May.
I've been there in my previous van many years ago and travelled via Switzerland and Italy with ferry to Igoumenitsa.
I've checked out routes on ViaMichelin and quite fancy the overland route via Austria, Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia and North Macedonia.

I would welcome any tips, good places to visit en route.
I'm wondering how North Macedonia might be - it's not included in my van insurance policy.
And I would welcome recommendations for overnight parking at/near the Eurotunnel terminal at Folkstone.

Thanks folks
Cheers!
Brian

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Re: Off to Greece!

Neill King \(MH-List\)
 

When I was doing some research last year much of the Balkans were still pretty much off limits for motorhome trips. The route via Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria was the overland route to Greece.

 

 

Best regards

Neill
------------------------------------------------------------
www.motorcaravanning.co.uk 01789-778825 551345165

neill@... motorcaravanning@...

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On-line motorhome parts & accessory shop with added information

 

 

 

From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandytrax
Sent: 23 April 2019 10:37
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: [motorhome-list] Off to Greece!

 

Hi folks
I'm planning a trip to Greece using Eurotunnel on 1 May.
I've been there in my previous van many years ago and travelled via Switzerland and Italy with ferry to Igoumenitsa.
I've checked out routes on ViaMichelin and quite fancy the overland route via Austria, Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia and North Macedonia.

I would welcome any tips, good places to visit en route.
I'm wondering how North Macedonia might be - it's not included in my van insurance policy.
And I would welcome recommendations for overnight parking at/near the Eurotunnel terminal at Folkstone.

Thanks folks
Cheers!
Brian


Re: Off to Greece!

Carol Weaver
 


Other books info all free

Carol

On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 at 10:37, Sandytrax <brianinspain12@...> wrote:
Hi folks
I'm planning a trip to Greece using Eurotunnel on 1 May.
I've been there in my previous van many years ago and travelled via Switzerland and Italy with ferry to Igoumenitsa.
I've checked out routes on ViaMichelin and quite fancy the overland route via Austria, Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia and North Macedonia.

I would welcome any tips, good places to visit en route.
I'm wondering how North Macedonia might be - it's not included in my van insurance policy.
And I would welcome recommendations for overnight parking at/near the Eurotunnel terminal at Folkstone.

Thanks folks
Cheers!
Brian

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