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Re: 17 Tourist Routes in France in french

Tim Atkinson
 

Just grabbed a copy - many thanks

Cheers

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Re: Who was looking for a mh?

pdqsoft@rocketmail.com
 

What are you looking for Paul? We will probably be selling our 2007 Hymer B654SL (Fiat 3.0) soon…


17 Tourist Routes in France in french

Carol Weaver
 


Link Paul

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Re: Who was looking for a mh?

Carol Weaver
 

I couldn’t recall what you had wanted. Have you looked through all the classifieds on motorhomefun?

Carol

On Sun, 2 Jun 2019 at 22:20, pj_home via Groups.Io <paul.f.jackson=virgin.net@groups.io> wrote:
It was me Carol, thanks very much for the post but it does not have a
garage and its 10K more than Ive got :)

Lovely van though

Paul

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> Any good. It’s just been advertised on Motorhomefun.  But also linked to
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>
> I know nothing only that it has just come into my inbox
>
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Re: Who was looking for a mh?

pj_home
 

It was me Carol, thanks very much for the post but it does not have a garage and its 10K more than Ive got :)

Lovely van though

Paul

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Any good. It’s just been advertised on Motorhomefun.  But also linked to this
https://aerialimaginguk.com/fj09hsaforsale
I know nothing only that it has just come into my inbox
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Who was looking for a mh?

Carol Weaver
 


Any good. It’s just been advertised on Motorhomefun.  But also linked to this


I know nothing only that it has just come into my inbox

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Re: was Sprinters - now boats? Now general discussion?

pj_home
 

We have full timed on and off for quite a long time now. The offs when my wife got house sick or her mother or my mother was ill. 1 flat 1 house and 2 motorhomes bought and sold later & after the loss of both mothers we tried again. Our daughter moved to NZ and we started to winter there that cured Paulines house sickness as she got 5 to 6 months in one each year. Last year we got the Grand daughter bonus as well.

To help pay for flights we got summer jobs at the site we are on now in March as wardens and exported 2 caravans each trip to NZ and converted and sold them there making enough profit to pay for most of the trip.

Now our daughter is planning to move to Canada in Dec so we wont be staying there 5 to 6 months in winter! So it will be back to Spain for the bulk of the winter.

I would just full time forever. I love the lifestyle. Pauline not quite as much but when shes back in a house where we are paying all the bills she soon gets fed up of that lol. We have everything we need when we have a van that has the right layout but we realise we have to be so careful with weight these days.

I had a driving job a couple of years ago and got pulled by VOSA on a routine check they told me that they are now self funding and know that most motorhomes and some caravans are overweight and therefore an easy target.

3 of our friends have been weighed, one of them in Spain between Zaragoza and Valencia. If it had been me they would have thrown the book at me I reckon as i didnt realize until the last MOT just how overweight I was!

So here we are now trying to decide if we go for a motorhome this year and go to Spain Dec to the end of March then park it next summer while we work as the site have just asked us back or wait until next summer when we can go away Oct to end of March.

I guess we will continue to look and if the right van jumps out at us we would buy it but if not we could keep the caravan until next summer and go to Spain this winter in an apartment for a couple of months.

Paul

On 30/05/2019 06:23, Derek Sims wrote:
Hi Tim
Thank you so much for replying. You ‘ve saved us from taking a direction which could have brought us much pain and grief. I don’t know how far down that road we’d have gone, but certainly the starry-eyed descriptions we had from one or two just starting out suggested it was worth serious consideration. Giving us the benefit of your experience has saved us wasted time thinking it further through.
Actually, I think we may have met you once. We were on a CS near Topsham with our Esterel and, if I recall correctly, you were in a Rapido. It’s good to know you’re still enjoying the nomadic lifestyle. We’re about 1000 nights along from when we met you, having spent over two years in the ‘van while our son lived at our place. Tish would give up the flat tomorrow even though we only have a 5.45m ‘van, the Esterel having fallen prey to my glaucoma. I’m afraid I enjoy my music and the Woolacombe lifestyle too much to take the final plunge, but I’m happy to tour for 3-6 months at a time. We couldn’t go abroad this spring as I’m waiting to have another eye operation, so at the beginning of May we started a Magical Mystery Tour of places we’d never visited before. It’s been fantastic and has put right so many false preconceptions I had about certain places. It’s also made me appreciate what a beautiful country we live in.
When we return home next week to await my appointment date we’ll have covered over. 2000 miles, (plus about 50 unlogged ones on the back of a recovery truck) and I won’t have been homesick for a minute, but I’ll enjoy being back In Woolacombe, whereas Tish will feel rather differently. It’s nothing to do with the location, just that she feels all her time at home is spent on keeping that home, so why bother with it, when you could live in a ‘van for a fraction of the trouble and travel anywhere? More meaningful “discussions” to come, I fear.
Thanks again
Derek.
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On 29/05/2019 at 14:00, timsinc Sinclair wrote:

On 29/05/2019, Andy Clarke <andyclarke1050@...> wrote:
On Wed, 29 May 2019, 08:21 Derek Sims, <derek.sims@...> wrote:

That seems as if it could be a good combination for
fulltiming
-a narrowboat on a marina with some storage as a base and a motorhome for
longer tours. Anyone done it? Comments?
Ask Tim Sinclair, he had a narrowboat and a camper for a few years.
Depends, Derek, how much cost and upkeep stress you want for the lifestyle.

I've always loved water so after two years living fulltime in a
Rapido, I bought a narrowboat, later swapped for a wide-beam that was
a former hotel canal cruiser converted into a floating apartment.

After two years I really missed the get-up-and-go, loving nomad
lifestyle. To do that on the water I (solo) needed at least one crew
member (family or friend) so bought a camper to escape.

But the marina mooring fees (admittedly in expensive south-east) was
about same as paying council tax and still had cost of metred
electricity. Then there was the organising, worry and bills of having
the boat lifted out the water every 3/4 years to be 'blacked' and the
galvanic isolators replaced. Like motorhomes but with lot more to go
wrong, maintenance a constant ongoing.

In the winter it was freezing, the 'wood-burner' stove demanding
constant, pontoon-trolley-pushing feeding of logs and coal so as not
to stop (at least in the living room) my poor blood circulation from
giving up altogether. In the summer every window (dripping with
condensation in winter) needed opening but didn't stop me being
drenched in sweat most of the time.

Idyllic dream shattered after three years, I rented a stress-free flat
(no maintenance for me!) - in total at less cost. And free to take off
at drop-of-hat in my (with loo and shower) camper to
water-satisfying-side spots, country retreats and the summer warmth of
Iberia in the winter months.

So much so that nine months ago I thought why pay monthly £800 a month
rent, near £2,000 annual council tax and utilty bills? Even with the
cost of campsite fees, extra full-time insurance and storage of my
really not-needed worldly posessions, I'm quids in.

Horses for courses, of course. I'm single and love the pared-down
living as well as liking my own company and space. That said, I'm
often pitched on the drives of family and friends.

Tim

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Re: was Sprinters - now boats?

Carol Weaver
 

Derek’s view?

😄😄😄

Carol

On Thu, 30 May 2019 at 14:42, Derek Sims <derek.sims@...> wrote:
Thanks Carol but selling up would give us even more dosh and would be hassle-free. It may be nice to collect stuff when we’re young but I find it just as good to shed it as I grow older. There is so much hassle these days. When I collect Derek I shan’t ever go into the apartment in case it needs painting or cleaning.

Tish

Sent using the GMX mail app

On 30/05/2019 at 13:06, Carol Weaver wrote:

> In a way you’ve already come a long way since our first meeting in 2002
> ish?   Survived 17 years or so.
>
> I also know where Derek comes from. Putting his computer gear in store is a
> waste as he knows.
>
> I still believe in keeping somewhere to come back to
>
> But here’s a solution
>
> Keep apartment let on proper short term lease so you can give notice to
> come back to if necessary in future but it covers you with some money for
> travelling
>
> Any good?
>
> Carol
>
> On Thu, 30 May 2019 at 11:19, Derek Sims <derek.sims@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi Tim
> > Tish here. Thank you for all your valuable help.
> > If all else fails my plan is to take off in the van leaving Derek with all
> > his so important time-consuming computer stuff, etc., and he can ring me to
> > come and collect him when he is ready. If I’m abroad he might need to wait
> > a day or two or give me good warning and it may be not the best financial
> > situation but who knows how much more time we have on this planet! Silly to
> > waste it, eh?
> >
> > Best wishes. See you on the road!
> > Tish
> >
> > Sent using the GMX mail app
> >
> > On 30/05/2019 at 09:38, timsinc Sinclair wrote:
> >
> > > Ah, Derek, I do have faint recollection of our Topsham meeting - but
> > > it must have been eight or so years ago with many campsites and chats
> > > to people inbetween!
> > >
> > > Glad you found living-on-water advice useful, but it is only my
> > > experience. I know loads of folk love the life and there was a lovely
> > > community I enjoyed being part of at the marina I was on. Made some
> > > good friends there, including one who is selling his boat and now
> > > living fulltime in his Hymer - with two cats!
> > >
> > > Your home is in a lovely part of the country but I can understand
> > > Tish's feelings to upsticks for the roaming lifestyle. Every now and
> > > then I email a kind of brief blog/travelog to about 50 friends, family
> > > and contacts - Carol on here being one of them.
> > >
> > > Example my latest where, with some photos of stunning views from my
> > > front window, I wrote tongue-in-cheek:
> > >
> > > >> The glory of constantly viewing one's country estates cannot be
> > under-estimated. Today I am at Hillside, near Salisbury, looked after by my
> > managers, the Motorhome and Caravan Club.
> > >
> > > Yes, there are costs of staff - such as those for seems like constant
> > > mowing the grass and/or sweeping up autumn leaves, oh and pruning and
> > > tree surgery plus garden maintenance, for those guarding against
> > > intruders and, yes yuck, for those keeping the ablutions clean.
> > > Mustn't forget housekeeper (and these days /butler) checking on my
> > > well-being and scribbling in the account books.
> > >
> > > In these days of austerity, the rising price of this luxury still
> > > beats the rising price of staying put in a council-tax/utility-bills
> > > abode. <<
> > >
> > > Better not show Tish. Good luck with the eyes.
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 30/05/2019, Derek Sims <derek.sims@...> wrote:
> > > > Hi Tim
> > > >
> > > > Thank you so much for replying. You ‘ve saved us from taking a
> > direction
> > > > which could have brought us much pain and grief. I don’t know how far
> > down
> > > > that road we’d have gone, but certainly the starry-eyed descriptions
> > we had
> > > > from one or two just starting out suggested it was worth serious
> > > > consideration. Giving us the benefit of your experience has saved us
> > wasted
> > > > time thinking it further through.
> > > >
> > > > Actually, I think we may have met you once. We were on a CS near
> > Topsham
> > > > with our Esterel and, if I recall correctly, you were in a Rapido.
> > It’s good
> > > >  to know you’re still enjoying the nomadic lifestyle. We’re about 1000
> > > > nights along from when we met you, having spent over two years in the
> > ‘van
> > > > while our son lived at our place. Tish would give up the flat tomorrow
> > even
> > > > though we only have a 5.45m ‘van, the Esterel having fallen prey to my
> > > > glaucoma. I’m afraid I enjoy my music and the Woolacombe lifestyle too
> > much
> > > > to take the final plunge, but I’m happy to tour for 3-6 months at a
> > time. We
> > > > couldn’t go abroad this spring as I’m waiting to have another eye
> > operation,
> > > > so at the beginning of May we started a Magical Mystery Tour of places
> > we’d
> > > > never visited before. It’s been fantastic and has put right so many
> > false
> > > > preconceptions I had about certain places. It’s also made me
> > appreciate what
> > > > a beautiful country we live in.
> > > >
> > > > When we return home next week to await my appointment date we’ll have
> > > > covered over. 2000 miles, (plus about 50 unlogged ones on the back of a
> > > > recovery truck) and I won’t have been homesick for a minute, but I’ll
> > enjoy
> > > > being back In Woolacombe, whereas Tish will feel rather differently.
> > It’s
> > > > nothing to do with the location, just that she feels all her time at
> > home is
> > > > spent on keeping that home, so why bother with it, when you could live
> > in a
> > > > ‘van for a fraction of the trouble and travel anywhere? More meaningful
> > > > “discussions” to come, I fear.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again
> > > >
> > > > Derek.
> > > >
> > > > Sent using the GMX mail app
> > > >
> > > > On 29/05/2019 at 14:00, timsinc Sinclair wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On 29/05/2019, Andy Clarke <andyclarke1050@...> wrote:
> > > >> > On Wed, 29 May 2019, 08:21 Derek Sims, <derek.sims@...> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> That seems as if it could be a good combination for
> > > >> >> fulltiming
> > > >> >> -a narrowboat on a marina with some storage as a base and a
> > motorhome
> > > >> >> for
> > > >> >> longer tours. Anyone done it? Comments?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Ask Tim Sinclair, he had a narrowboat and a camper for a few years.
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> Depends, Derek, how much cost and upkeep stress you want for the
> > > >> lifestyle.
> > > >>
> > > >> I've always loved water so after two years living fulltime in a
> > > >> Rapido, I bought a narrowboat, later swapped for a wide-beam that was
> > > >> a former hotel canal cruiser converted into a floating apartment.
> > > >>
> > > >> After two years I really missed the get-up-and-go, loving nomad
> > > >> lifestyle. To do that on the water I (solo) needed at least one crew
> > > >> member (family or friend) so bought a camper to escape.
> > > >>
> > > >> But the marina mooring fees (admittedly in expensive south-east) was
> > > >> about same as paying council tax and still had cost of metred
> > > >> electricity. Then there was the organising, worry and bills of having
> > > >> the boat lifted out the water every 3/4 years to be 'blacked' and the
> > > >> galvanic isolators replaced. Like motorhomes but with lot more to go
> > > >> wrong, maintenance a constant ongoing.
> > > >>
> > > >> In the winter it was freezing, the 'wood-burner' stove demanding
> > > >> constant, pontoon-trolley-pushing feeding of logs and coal so as not
> > > >> to stop (at least in the living room) my poor blood circulation from
> > > >> giving up altogether. In the summer every window (dripping with
> > > >> condensation in winter) needed opening but didn't stop me being
> > > >> drenched in sweat most of the time.
> > > >>
> > > >> Idyllic dream shattered after three years, I rented a stress-free flat
> > > >> (no maintenance for me!) - in total at less cost. And free to take off
> > > >> at drop-of-hat in my (with loo and shower) camper to
> > > >> water-satisfying-side spots, country retreats and the summer warmth of
> > > >> Iberia in the winter months.
> > > >>
> > > >> So much so that nine months ago I thought why pay monthly £800 a month
> > > >> rent, near £2,000 annual council tax and utilty bills? Even with the
> > > >> cost of campsite fees, extra full-time insurance and storage of my
> > > >> really not-needed worldly posessions, I'm quids in.
> > > >>
> > > >> Horses for courses, of course. I'm single and love the pared-down
> > > >> living as well as liking my own company and space. That said, I'm
> > > >> often pitched on the drives of family and friends.
> > > >>
> > > >> Tim
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > *It'll all be OK in the end. If it's not OK, it's not the end*
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: was Sprinters - now boats?

Derek Sims
 

Thanks Carol but selling up would give us even more dosh and would be hassle-free. It may be nice to collect stuff when we’re young but I find it just as good to shed it as I grow older. There is so much hassle these days. When I collect Derek I shan’t ever go into the apartment in case it needs painting or cleaning.

Tish

Sent using the GMX mail app

On 30/05/2019 at 13:06, Carol Weaver wrote:

In a way you’ve already come a long way since our first meeting in 2002
ish? Survived 17 years or so.

I also know where Derek comes from. Putting his computer gear in store is a
waste as he knows.

I still believe in keeping somewhere to come back to

But here’s a solution

Keep apartment let on proper short term lease so you can give notice to
come back to if necessary in future but it covers you with some money for
travelling

Any good?

Carol

On Thu, 30 May 2019 at 11:19, Derek Sims <derek.sims@...> wrote:

Hi Tim
Tish here. Thank you for all your valuable help.
If all else fails my plan is to take off in the van leaving Derek with all
his so important time-consuming computer stuff, etc., and he can ring me to
come and collect him when he is ready. If I’m abroad he might need to wait
a day or two or give me good warning and it may be not the best financial
situation but who knows how much more time we have on this planet! Silly to
waste it, eh?

Best wishes. See you on the road!
Tish

Sent using the GMX mail app

On 30/05/2019 at 09:38, timsinc Sinclair wrote:

Ah, Derek, I do have faint recollection of our Topsham meeting - but
it must have been eight or so years ago with many campsites and chats
to people inbetween!

Glad you found living-on-water advice useful, but it is only my
experience. I know loads of folk love the life and there was a lovely
community I enjoyed being part of at the marina I was on. Made some
good friends there, including one who is selling his boat and now
living fulltime in his Hymer - with two cats!

Your home is in a lovely part of the country but I can understand
Tish's feelings to upsticks for the roaming lifestyle. Every now and
then I email a kind of brief blog/travelog to about 50 friends, family
and contacts - Carol on here being one of them.

Example my latest where, with some photos of stunning views from my
front window, I wrote tongue-in-cheek:

The glory of constantly viewing one's country estates cannot be
under-estimated. Today I am at Hillside, near Salisbury, looked after by my
managers, the Motorhome and Caravan Club.

Yes, there are costs of staff - such as those for seems like constant
mowing the grass and/or sweeping up autumn leaves, oh and pruning and
tree surgery plus garden maintenance, for those guarding against
intruders and, yes yuck, for those keeping the ablutions clean.
Mustn't forget housekeeper (and these days /butler) checking on my
well-being and scribbling in the account books.

In these days of austerity, the rising price of this luxury still
beats the rising price of staying put in a council-tax/utility-bills
abode. <<

Better not show Tish. Good luck with the eyes.

Tim



On 30/05/2019, Derek Sims <derek.sims@...> wrote:
Hi Tim

Thank you so much for replying. You ‘ve saved us from taking a
direction
which could have brought us much pain and grief. I don’t know how far
down
that road we’d have gone, but certainly the starry-eyed descriptions
we had
from one or two just starting out suggested it was worth serious
consideration. Giving us the benefit of your experience has saved us
wasted
time thinking it further through.

Actually, I think we may have met you once. We were on a CS near
Topsham
with our Esterel and, if I recall correctly, you were in a Rapido.
It’s good
to know you’re still enjoying the nomadic lifestyle. We’re about 1000
nights along from when we met you, having spent over two years in the
‘van
while our son lived at our place. Tish would give up the flat tomorrow
even
though we only have a 5.45m ‘van, the Esterel having fallen prey to my
glaucoma. I’m afraid I enjoy my music and the Woolacombe lifestyle too
much
to take the final plunge, but I’m happy to tour for 3-6 months at a
time. We
couldn’t go abroad this spring as I’m waiting to have another eye
operation,
so at the beginning of May we started a Magical Mystery Tour of places
we’d
never visited before. It’s been fantastic and has put right so many
false
preconceptions I had about certain places. It’s also made me
appreciate what
a beautiful country we live in.

When we return home next week to await my appointment date we’ll have
covered over. 2000 miles, (plus about 50 unlogged ones on the back of a
recovery truck) and I won’t have been homesick for a minute, but I’ll
enjoy
being back In Woolacombe, whereas Tish will feel rather differently.
It’s
nothing to do with the location, just that she feels all her time at
home is
spent on keeping that home, so why bother with it, when you could live
in a
‘van for a fraction of the trouble and travel anywhere? More meaningful
“discussions” to come, I fear.

Thanks again

Derek.

Sent using the GMX mail app

On 29/05/2019 at 14:00, timsinc Sinclair wrote:

On 29/05/2019, Andy Clarke <andyclarke1050@...> wrote:
On Wed, 29 May 2019, 08:21 Derek Sims, <derek.sims@...> wrote:

That seems as if it could be a good combination for
fulltiming
-a narrowboat on a marina with some storage as a base and a
motorhome
for
longer tours. Anyone done it? Comments?
Ask Tim Sinclair, he had a narrowboat and a camper for a few years.
Depends, Derek, how much cost and upkeep stress you want for the
lifestyle.

I've always loved water so after two years living fulltime in a
Rapido, I bought a narrowboat, later swapped for a wide-beam that was
a former hotel canal cruiser converted into a floating apartment.

After two years I really missed the get-up-and-go, loving nomad
lifestyle. To do that on the water I (solo) needed at least one crew
member (family or friend) so bought a camper to escape.

But the marina mooring fees (admittedly in expensive south-east) was
about same as paying council tax and still had cost of metred
electricity. Then there was the organising, worry and bills of having
the boat lifted out the water every 3/4 years to be 'blacked' and the
galvanic isolators replaced. Like motorhomes but with lot more to go
wrong, maintenance a constant ongoing.

In the winter it was freezing, the 'wood-burner' stove demanding
constant, pontoon-trolley-pushing feeding of logs and coal so as not
to stop (at least in the living room) my poor blood circulation from
giving up altogether. In the summer every window (dripping with
condensation in winter) needed opening but didn't stop me being
drenched in sweat most of the time.

Idyllic dream shattered after three years, I rented a stress-free flat
(no maintenance for me!) - in total at less cost. And free to take off
at drop-of-hat in my (with loo and shower) camper to
water-satisfying-side spots, country retreats and the summer warmth of
Iberia in the winter months.

So much so that nine months ago I thought why pay monthly £800 a month
rent, near £2,000 annual council tax and utilty bills? Even with the
cost of campsite fees, extra full-time insurance and storage of my
really not-needed worldly posessions, I'm quids in.

Horses for courses, of course. I'm single and love the pared-down
living as well as liking my own company and space. That said, I'm
often pitched on the drives of family and friends.

Tim





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Re: was Sprinters - now boats?

Carol Weaver
 

In a way you’ve already come a long way since our first meeting in 2002 ish?   Survived 17 years or so. 

I also know where Derek comes from. Putting his computer gear in store is a waste as he knows. 

I still believe in keeping somewhere to come back to

But here’s a solution 

Keep apartment let on proper short term lease so you can give notice to come back to if necessary in future but it covers you with some money for travelling 

Any good?

Carol

On Thu, 30 May 2019 at 11:19, Derek Sims <derek.sims@...> wrote:
Hi Tim
Tish here. Thank you for all your valuable help.
If all else fails my plan is to take off in the van leaving Derek with all his so important time-consuming computer stuff, etc., and he can ring me to come and collect him when he is ready. If I’m abroad he might need to wait a day or two or give me good warning and it may be not the best financial situation but who knows how much more time we have on this planet! Silly to waste it, eh?

Best wishes. See you on the road!
Tish

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On 30/05/2019 at 09:38, timsinc Sinclair wrote:

> Ah, Derek, I do have faint recollection of our Topsham meeting - but
> it must have been eight or so years ago with many campsites and chats
> to people inbetween!
>
> Glad you found living-on-water advice useful, but it is only my
> experience. I know loads of folk love the life and there was a lovely
> community I enjoyed being part of at the marina I was on. Made some
> good friends there, including one who is selling his boat and now
> living fulltime in his Hymer - with two cats!
>
> Your home is in a lovely part of the country but I can understand
> Tish's feelings to upsticks for the roaming lifestyle. Every now and
> then I email a kind of brief blog/travelog to about 50 friends, family
> and contacts - Carol on here being one of them.
>
> Example my latest where, with some photos of stunning views from my
> front window, I wrote tongue-in-cheek:
>
> >> The glory of constantly viewing one's country estates cannot be under-estimated. Today I am at Hillside, near Salisbury, looked after by my managers, the Motorhome and Caravan Club.
>
> Yes, there are costs of staff - such as those for seems like constant
> mowing the grass and/or sweeping up autumn leaves, oh and pruning and
> tree surgery plus garden maintenance, for those guarding against
> intruders and, yes yuck, for those keeping the ablutions clean.
> Mustn't forget housekeeper (and these days /butler) checking on my
> well-being and scribbling in the account books.
>
> In these days of austerity, the rising price of this luxury still
> beats the rising price of staying put in a council-tax/utility-bills
> abode. <<
>
> Better not show Tish. Good luck with the eyes.
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> On 30/05/2019, Derek Sims <derek.sims@...> wrote:
> > Hi Tim
> >
> > Thank you so much for replying. You ‘ve saved us from taking a direction
> > which could have brought us much pain and grief. I don’t know how far down
> > that road we’d have gone, but certainly the starry-eyed descriptions we had
> > from one or two just starting out suggested it was worth serious
> > consideration. Giving us the benefit of your experience has saved us wasted
> > time thinking it further through.
> >
> > Actually, I think we may have met you once. We were on a CS near Topsham
> > with our Esterel and, if I recall correctly, you were in a Rapido. It’s good
> >  to know you’re still enjoying the nomadic lifestyle. We’re about 1000
> > nights along from when we met you, having spent over two years in the ‘van
> > while our son lived at our place. Tish would give up the flat tomorrow even
> > though we only have a 5.45m ‘van, the Esterel having fallen prey to my
> > glaucoma. I’m afraid I enjoy my music and the Woolacombe lifestyle too much
> > to take the final plunge, but I’m happy to tour for 3-6 months at a time. We
> > couldn’t go abroad this spring as I’m waiting to have another eye operation,
> > so at the beginning of May we started a Magical Mystery Tour of places we’d
> > never visited before. It’s been fantastic and has put right so many false
> > preconceptions I had about certain places. It’s also made me appreciate what
> > a beautiful country we live in.
> >
> > When we return home next week to await my appointment date we’ll have
> > covered over. 2000 miles, (plus about 50 unlogged ones on the back of a
> > recovery truck) and I won’t have been homesick for a minute, but I’ll enjoy
> > being back In Woolacombe, whereas Tish will feel rather differently. It’s
> > nothing to do with the location, just that she feels all her time at home is
> > spent on keeping that home, so why bother with it, when you could live in a
> > ‘van for a fraction of the trouble and travel anywhere? More meaningful
> > “discussions” to come, I fear.
> >
> > Thanks again
> >
> > Derek.
> >
> > Sent using the GMX mail app
> >
> > On 29/05/2019 at 14:00, timsinc Sinclair wrote:
> >
> >> On 29/05/2019, Andy Clarke <andyclarke1050@...> wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 29 May 2019, 08:21 Derek Sims, <derek.sims@...> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> That seems as if it could be a good combination for
> >> >> fulltiming
> >> >> -a narrowboat on a marina with some storage as a base and a motorhome
> >> >> for
> >> >> longer tours. Anyone done it? Comments?
> >> >
> >> > Ask Tim Sinclair, he had a narrowboat and a camper for a few years.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Depends, Derek, how much cost and upkeep stress you want for the
> >> lifestyle.
> >>
> >> I've always loved water so after two years living fulltime in a
> >> Rapido, I bought a narrowboat, later swapped for a wide-beam that was
> >> a former hotel canal cruiser converted into a floating apartment.
> >>
> >> After two years I really missed the get-up-and-go, loving nomad
> >> lifestyle. To do that on the water I (solo) needed at least one crew
> >> member (family or friend) so bought a camper to escape.
> >>
> >> But the marina mooring fees (admittedly in expensive south-east) was
> >> about same as paying council tax and still had cost of metred
> >> electricity. Then there was the organising, worry and bills of having
> >> the boat lifted out the water every 3/4 years to be 'blacked' and the
> >> galvanic isolators replaced. Like motorhomes but with lot more to go
> >> wrong, maintenance a constant ongoing.
> >>
> >> In the winter it was freezing, the 'wood-burner' stove demanding
> >> constant, pontoon-trolley-pushing feeding of logs and coal so as not
> >> to stop (at least in the living room) my poor blood circulation from
> >> giving up altogether. In the summer every window (dripping with
> >> condensation in winter) needed opening but didn't stop me being
> >> drenched in sweat most of the time.
> >>
> >> Idyllic dream shattered after three years, I rented a stress-free flat
> >> (no maintenance for me!) - in total at less cost. And free to take off
> >> at drop-of-hat in my (with loo and shower) camper to
> >> water-satisfying-side spots, country retreats and the summer warmth of
> >> Iberia in the winter months.
> >>
> >> So much so that nine months ago I thought why pay monthly £800 a month
> >> rent, near £2,000 annual council tax and utilty bills? Even with the
> >> cost of campsite fees, extra full-time insurance and storage of my
> >> really not-needed worldly posessions, I'm quids in.
> >>
> >> Horses for courses, of course. I'm single and love the pared-down
> >> living as well as liking my own company and space. That said, I'm
> >> often pitched on the drives of family and friends.
> >>
> >> Tim
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> *It'll all be OK in the end. If it's not OK, it's not the end*
>
>




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Re: was Sprinters - now boats?

Derek Sims
 

Hi Tim
Tish here. Thank you for all your valuable help.
If all else fails my plan is to take off in the van leaving Derek with all his so important time-consuming computer stuff, etc., and he can ring me to come and collect him when he is ready. If I’m abroad he might need to wait a day or two or give me good warning and it may be not the best financial situation but who knows how much more time we have on this planet! Silly to waste it, eh?

Best wishes. See you on the road!
Tish

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On 30/05/2019 at 09:38, timsinc Sinclair wrote:

Ah, Derek, I do have faint recollection of our Topsham meeting - but
it must have been eight or so years ago with many campsites and chats
to people inbetween!

Glad you found living-on-water advice useful, but it is only my
experience. I know loads of folk love the life and there was a lovely
community I enjoyed being part of at the marina I was on. Made some
good friends there, including one who is selling his boat and now
living fulltime in his Hymer - with two cats!

Your home is in a lovely part of the country but I can understand
Tish's feelings to upsticks for the roaming lifestyle. Every now and
then I email a kind of brief blog/travelog to about 50 friends, family
and contacts - Carol on here being one of them.

Example my latest where, with some photos of stunning views from my
front window, I wrote tongue-in-cheek:

The glory of constantly viewing one's country estates cannot be under-estimated. Today I am at Hillside, near Salisbury, looked after by my managers, the Motorhome and Caravan Club.
Yes, there are costs of staff - such as those for seems like constant
mowing the grass and/or sweeping up autumn leaves, oh and pruning and
tree surgery plus garden maintenance, for those guarding against
intruders and, yes yuck, for those keeping the ablutions clean.
Mustn't forget housekeeper (and these days /butler) checking on my
well-being and scribbling in the account books.

In these days of austerity, the rising price of this luxury still
beats the rising price of staying put in a council-tax/utility-bills
abode. <<

Better not show Tish. Good luck with the eyes.

Tim



On 30/05/2019, Derek Sims <derek.sims@...> wrote:
Hi Tim

Thank you so much for replying. You ‘ve saved us from taking a direction
which could have brought us much pain and grief. I don’t know how far down
that road we’d have gone, but certainly the starry-eyed descriptions we had
from one or two just starting out suggested it was worth serious
consideration. Giving us the benefit of your experience has saved us wasted
time thinking it further through.

Actually, I think we may have met you once. We were on a CS near Topsham
with our Esterel and, if I recall correctly, you were in a Rapido. It’s good
to know you’re still enjoying the nomadic lifestyle. We’re about 1000
nights along from when we met you, having spent over two years in the ‘van
while our son lived at our place. Tish would give up the flat tomorrow even
though we only have a 5.45m ‘van, the Esterel having fallen prey to my
glaucoma. I’m afraid I enjoy my music and the Woolacombe lifestyle too much
to take the final plunge, but I’m happy to tour for 3-6 months at a time. We
couldn’t go abroad this spring as I’m waiting to have another eye operation,
so at the beginning of May we started a Magical Mystery Tour of places we’d
never visited before. It’s been fantastic and has put right so many false
preconceptions I had about certain places. It’s also made me appreciate what
a beautiful country we live in.

When we return home next week to await my appointment date we’ll have
covered over. 2000 miles, (plus about 50 unlogged ones on the back of a
recovery truck) and I won’t have been homesick for a minute, but I’ll enjoy
being back In Woolacombe, whereas Tish will feel rather differently. It’s
nothing to do with the location, just that she feels all her time at home is
spent on keeping that home, so why bother with it, when you could live in a
‘van for a fraction of the trouble and travel anywhere? More meaningful
“discussions” to come, I fear.

Thanks again

Derek.

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On 29/05/2019 at 14:00, timsinc Sinclair wrote:

On 29/05/2019, Andy Clarke <andyclarke1050@...> wrote:
On Wed, 29 May 2019, 08:21 Derek Sims, <derek.sims@...> wrote:

That seems as if it could be a good combination for
fulltiming
-a narrowboat on a marina with some storage as a base and a motorhome
for
longer tours. Anyone done it? Comments?
Ask Tim Sinclair, he had a narrowboat and a camper for a few years.
Depends, Derek, how much cost and upkeep stress you want for the
lifestyle.

I've always loved water so after two years living fulltime in a
Rapido, I bought a narrowboat, later swapped for a wide-beam that was
a former hotel canal cruiser converted into a floating apartment.

After two years I really missed the get-up-and-go, loving nomad
lifestyle. To do that on the water I (solo) needed at least one crew
member (family or friend) so bought a camper to escape.

But the marina mooring fees (admittedly in expensive south-east) was
about same as paying council tax and still had cost of metred
electricity. Then there was the organising, worry and bills of having
the boat lifted out the water every 3/4 years to be 'blacked' and the
galvanic isolators replaced. Like motorhomes but with lot more to go
wrong, maintenance a constant ongoing.

In the winter it was freezing, the 'wood-burner' stove demanding
constant, pontoon-trolley-pushing feeding of logs and coal so as not
to stop (at least in the living room) my poor blood circulation from
giving up altogether. In the summer every window (dripping with
condensation in winter) needed opening but didn't stop me being
drenched in sweat most of the time.

Idyllic dream shattered after three years, I rented a stress-free flat
(no maintenance for me!) - in total at less cost. And free to take off
at drop-of-hat in my (with loo and shower) camper to
water-satisfying-side spots, country retreats and the summer warmth of
Iberia in the winter months.

So much so that nine months ago I thought why pay monthly £800 a month
rent, near £2,000 annual council tax and utilty bills? Even with the
cost of campsite fees, extra full-time insurance and storage of my
really not-needed worldly posessions, I'm quids in.

Horses for courses, of course. I'm single and love the pared-down
living as well as liking my own company and space. That said, I'm
often pitched on the drives of family and friends.

Tim





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*It'll all be OK in the end. If it's not OK, it's not the end*


Re: was Sprinters - now boats?

timsinc Sinclair
 

Ah, Derek, I do have faint recollection of our Topsham meeting - but
it must have been eight or so years ago with many campsites and chats
to people inbetween!

Glad you found living-on-water advice useful, but it is only my
experience. I know loads of folk love the life and there was a lovely
community I enjoyed being part of at the marina I was on. Made some
good friends there, including one who is selling his boat and now
living fulltime in his Hymer - with two cats!

Your home is in a lovely part of the country but I can understand
Tish's feelings to upsticks for the roaming lifestyle. Every now and
then I email a kind of brief blog/travelog to about 50 friends, family
and contacts - Carol on here being one of them.

Example my latest where, with some photos of stunning views from my
front window, I wrote tongue-in-cheek:

The glory of constantly viewing one's country estates cannot be under-estimated. Today I am at Hillside, near Salisbury, looked after by my managers, the Motorhome and Caravan Club.
Yes, there are costs of staff - such as those for seems like constant
mowing the grass and/or sweeping up autumn leaves, oh and pruning and
tree surgery plus garden maintenance, for those guarding against
intruders and, yes yuck, for those keeping the ablutions clean.
Mustn't forget housekeeper (and these days /butler) checking on my
well-being and scribbling in the account books.

In these days of austerity, the rising price of this luxury still
beats the rising price of staying put in a council-tax/utility-bills
abode. <<

Better not show Tish. Good luck with the eyes.

Tim



On 30/05/2019, Derek Sims <derek.sims@...> wrote:
Hi Tim

Thank you so much for replying. You ‘ve saved us from taking a direction
which could have brought us much pain and grief. I don’t know how far down
that road we’d have gone, but certainly the starry-eyed descriptions we had
from one or two just starting out suggested it was worth serious
consideration. Giving us the benefit of your experience has saved us wasted
time thinking it further through.

Actually, I think we may have met you once. We were on a CS near Topsham
with our Esterel and, if I recall correctly, you were in a Rapido. It’s good
to know you’re still enjoying the nomadic lifestyle. We’re about 1000
nights along from when we met you, having spent over two years in the ‘van
while our son lived at our place. Tish would give up the flat tomorrow even
though we only have a 5.45m ‘van, the Esterel having fallen prey to my
glaucoma. I’m afraid I enjoy my music and the Woolacombe lifestyle too much
to take the final plunge, but I’m happy to tour for 3-6 months at a time. We
couldn’t go abroad this spring as I’m waiting to have another eye operation,
so at the beginning of May we started a Magical Mystery Tour of places we’d
never visited before. It’s been fantastic and has put right so many false
preconceptions I had about certain places. It’s also made me appreciate what
a beautiful country we live in.

When we return home next week to await my appointment date we’ll have
covered over. 2000 miles, (plus about 50 unlogged ones on the back of a
recovery truck) and I won’t have been homesick for a minute, but I’ll enjoy
being back In Woolacombe, whereas Tish will feel rather differently. It’s
nothing to do with the location, just that she feels all her time at home is
spent on keeping that home, so why bother with it, when you could live in a
‘van for a fraction of the trouble and travel anywhere? More meaningful
“discussions” to come, I fear.

Thanks again

Derek.

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On 29/05/2019 at 14:00, timsinc Sinclair wrote:

On 29/05/2019, Andy Clarke <andyclarke1050@...> wrote:
On Wed, 29 May 2019, 08:21 Derek Sims, <derek.sims@...> wrote:

That seems as if it could be a good combination for
fulltiming
-a narrowboat on a marina with some storage as a base and a motorhome
for
longer tours. Anyone done it? Comments?
Ask Tim Sinclair, he had a narrowboat and a camper for a few years.
Depends, Derek, how much cost and upkeep stress you want for the
lifestyle.

I've always loved water so after two years living fulltime in a
Rapido, I bought a narrowboat, later swapped for a wide-beam that was
a former hotel canal cruiser converted into a floating apartment.

After two years I really missed the get-up-and-go, loving nomad
lifestyle. To do that on the water I (solo) needed at least one crew
member (family or friend) so bought a camper to escape.

But the marina mooring fees (admittedly in expensive south-east) was
about same as paying council tax and still had cost of metred
electricity. Then there was the organising, worry and bills of having
the boat lifted out the water every 3/4 years to be 'blacked' and the
galvanic isolators replaced. Like motorhomes but with lot more to go
wrong, maintenance a constant ongoing.

In the winter it was freezing, the 'wood-burner' stove demanding
constant, pontoon-trolley-pushing feeding of logs and coal so as not
to stop (at least in the living room) my poor blood circulation from
giving up altogether. In the summer every window (dripping with
condensation in winter) needed opening but didn't stop me being
drenched in sweat most of the time.

Idyllic dream shattered after three years, I rented a stress-free flat
(no maintenance for me!) - in total at less cost. And free to take off
at drop-of-hat in my (with loo and shower) camper to
water-satisfying-side spots, country retreats and the summer warmth of
Iberia in the winter months.

So much so that nine months ago I thought why pay monthly £800 a month
rent, near £2,000 annual council tax and utilty bills? Even with the
cost of campsite fees, extra full-time insurance and storage of my
really not-needed worldly posessions, I'm quids in.

Horses for courses, of course. I'm single and love the pared-down
living as well as liking my own company and space. That said, I'm
often pitched on the drives of family and friends.

Tim





--

*It'll all be OK in the end. If it's not OK, it's not the end*


Re: was Sprinters - now boats?

Derek Sims
 

Hi Tim

Thank you so much for replying. You ‘ve saved us from taking a direction which could have brought us much pain and grief. I don’t know how far down that road we’d have gone, but certainly the starry-eyed descriptions we had from one or two just starting out suggested it was worth serious consideration. Giving us the benefit of your experience has saved us wasted time thinking it further through.

Actually, I think we may have met you once. We were on a CS near Topsham with our Esterel and, if I recall correctly, you were in a Rapido. It’s good to know you’re still enjoying the nomadic lifestyle. We’re about 1000 nights along from when we met you, having spent over two years in the ‘van while our son lived at our place. Tish would give up the flat tomorrow even though we only have a 5.45m ‘van, the Esterel having fallen prey to my glaucoma. I’m afraid I enjoy my music and the Woolacombe lifestyle too much to take the final plunge, but I’m happy to tour for 3-6 months at a time. We couldn’t go abroad this spring as I’m waiting to have another eye operation, so at the beginning of May we started a Magical Mystery Tour of places we’d never visited before. It’s been fantastic and has put right so many false preconceptions I had about certain places. It’s also made me appreciate what a beautiful country we live in.

When we return home next week to await my appointment date we’ll have covered over. 2000 miles, (plus about 50 unlogged ones on the back of a recovery truck) and I won’t have been homesick for a minute, but I’ll enjoy being back In Woolacombe, whereas Tish will feel rather differently. It’s nothing to do with the location, just that she feels all her time at home is spent on keeping that home, so why bother with it, when you could live in a ‘van for a fraction of the trouble and travel anywhere? More meaningful “discussions” to come, I fear.

Thanks again

Derek.

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On 29/05/2019 at 14:00, timsinc Sinclair wrote:

On 29/05/2019, Andy Clarke <andyclarke1050@...> wrote:
On Wed, 29 May 2019, 08:21 Derek Sims, <derek.sims@...> wrote:

That seems as if it could be a good combination for
fulltiming
-a narrowboat on a marina with some storage as a base and a motorhome for
longer tours. Anyone done it? Comments?
Ask Tim Sinclair, he had a narrowboat and a camper for a few years.
Depends, Derek, how much cost and upkeep stress you want for the lifestyle.

I've always loved water so after two years living fulltime in a
Rapido, I bought a narrowboat, later swapped for a wide-beam that was
a former hotel canal cruiser converted into a floating apartment.

After two years I really missed the get-up-and-go, loving nomad
lifestyle. To do that on the water I (solo) needed at least one crew
member (family or friend) so bought a camper to escape.

But the marina mooring fees (admittedly in expensive south-east) was
about same as paying council tax and still had cost of metred
electricity. Then there was the organising, worry and bills of having
the boat lifted out the water every 3/4 years to be 'blacked' and the
galvanic isolators replaced. Like motorhomes but with lot more to go
wrong, maintenance a constant ongoing.

In the winter it was freezing, the 'wood-burner' stove demanding
constant, pontoon-trolley-pushing feeding of logs and coal so as not
to stop (at least in the living room) my poor blood circulation from
giving up altogether. In the summer every window (dripping with
condensation in winter) needed opening but didn't stop me being
drenched in sweat most of the time.

Idyllic dream shattered after three years, I rented a stress-free flat
(no maintenance for me!) - in total at less cost. And free to take off
at drop-of-hat in my (with loo and shower) camper to
water-satisfying-side spots, country retreats and the summer warmth of
Iberia in the winter months.

So much so that nine months ago I thought why pay monthly £800 a month
rent, near £2,000 annual council tax and utilty bills? Even with the
cost of campsite fees, extra full-time insurance and storage of my
really not-needed worldly posessions, I'm quids in.

Horses for courses, of course. I'm single and love the pared-down
living as well as liking my own company and space. That said, I'm
often pitched on the drives of family and friends.

Tim


Re: was Sprinters - now boats?

timsinc Sinclair
 

On 29/05/2019, Andy Clarke <andyclarke1050@...> wrote:
On Wed, 29 May 2019, 08:21 Derek Sims, <derek.sims@...> wrote:

That seems as if it could be a good combination for
fulltiming
-a narrowboat on a marina with some storage as a base and a motorhome for
longer tours. Anyone done it? Comments?
Ask Tim Sinclair, he had a narrowboat and a camper for a few years.
Depends, Derek, how much cost and upkeep stress you want for the lifestyle.

I've always loved water so after two years living fulltime in a
Rapido, I bought a narrowboat, later swapped for a wide-beam that was
a former hotel canal cruiser converted into a floating apartment.

After two years I really missed the get-up-and-go, loving nomad
lifestyle. To do that on the water I (solo) needed at least one crew
member (family or friend) so bought a camper to escape.

But the marina mooring fees (admittedly in expensive south-east) was
about same as paying council tax and still had cost of metred
electricity. Then there was the organising, worry and bills of having
the boat lifted out the water every 3/4 years to be 'blacked' and the
galvanic isolators replaced. Like motorhomes but with lot more to go
wrong, maintenance a constant ongoing.

In the winter it was freezing, the 'wood-burner' stove demanding
constant, pontoon-trolley-pushing feeding of logs and coal so as not
to stop (at least in the living room) my poor blood circulation from
giving up altogether. In the summer every window (dripping with
condensation in winter) needed opening but didn't stop me being
drenched in sweat most of the time.

Idyllic dream shattered after three years, I rented a stress-free flat
(no maintenance for me!) - in total at less cost. And free to take off
at drop-of-hat in my (with loo and shower) camper to
water-satisfying-side spots, country retreats and the summer warmth of
Iberia in the winter months.

So much so that nine months ago I thought why pay monthly £800 a month
rent, near £2,000 annual council tax and utilty bills? Even with the
cost of campsite fees, extra full-time insurance and storage of my
really not-needed worldly posessions, I'm quids in.

Horses for courses, of course. I'm single and love the pared-down
living as well as liking my own company and space. That said, I'm
often pitched on the drives of family and friends.

Tim


Re: Sprinters was: [Fiat Ducato Merc 316 Weight Upgrade]

Andy Clarke
 



On Wed, 29 May 2019, 08:21 Derek Sims, <derek.sims@...> wrote:
Sounds a good buy Andy. We had neighbours at Ellesmere Marina for a couple of nights and they had one they were delighted with, along with their narrow boat,(That seems as if it could be a good combination for fulltiming -a narrowboat on a marina with some storage as a base and a motorhome for longer tours. Anyone done it? Comments?  

Ask Tim Sinclair, he had a narrowboat and a camper for a few years.

Incidentally, what’s the difference between a 313 and our 2004 316?

The 316 has the 2.7 5 cylinder engine, the 313 has the 2.2 4 cylinder one.

Andy Clarke 


Re: Sprinters was: [Fiat Ducato Merc 316 Weight Upgrade]

Derek Sims
 

Sounds a good buy Andy. We had neighbours at Ellesmere Marina for a couple of nights and they had one they were delighted with, along with their narrow boat,(That seems as if it could be a good combination for fulltiming -a narrowboat on a marina with some storage as a base and a motorhome for longer tours. Anyone done it? Comments? This is a serious thought, brought on by taking our granddaughter for a day on a narrow boat). Same year as yours but unfortunately it does have rust, as a lot of them seem to by that age. However, they only paid three grand for it fully converted, so still pleased. It seems it pays to get to know the motocross crowd. They tend to convert long wheelbase vans by closing off the back part to securely store the motorbike and kit, then converting the front for living. Some friends picked up a lovely 2006 Merc Sprinter that way. Only two side windows so a bit dark, but ideal for security in a dodgy country (like England).

Incidentally, what’s the difference between a 313 and our 2004 316?

Best wishes for your next trip, wherever and whenever it happens. Hope we’ll get the full account.

Derek
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On 28/05/2019 at 11:05, Andy Clarke wrote:

The 4x4 Sprinters do look good but I'd want a LWB, not enough room in a MWB
for longer term trips. The pre CDi ones are said to be better, simpler
electronics and proper difflocks and transfer/reduction gears. Big problem
is rust! Although some ex RAF ones that aren't too bad appear from time to
time, generally low mileage too.

I did look long and hard for a 4x4 Sprinter when we were selling the old
814DA 4x4 truck, not that we actually 'need' 4x4 but it's nice to be able
to get a bit more off the beaten track from time to time.

In the end we've got a 2001 313 CDi LWB Sprinter, good bodywork and
converted very nicely by the previous owners. Slightly more complicated
electronics but no Cat, DPF or EGR thank god! Done about 100k miles so good
for another 200k.

Had it on a weighbridge (empty) and it comes in at 2960kg so just over 1/2
tonne payload, might still look at getting it upgraded to 3840kg.

Andy Clarke
www.ukmotorhomes.net

On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 06:07, Derek Sims <derek.sims@...> wrote:


. My platform of choice would be a Merc Sprinter MWB 4x4 auto, about 6m
long. What a project! I can almost hear Andy salivating from here, although
you’d probably go for something simpler and tougher wouldn’t you, Andy? Oh,
if only I were twenty years younger! I’ve seen some brilliant conversions
that people have picked up for three grand. For £30k you could have a
mobile palace!



Sprinters was: [Fiat Ducato Merc 316 Weight Upgrade]

Andy Clarke
 


The 4x4 Sprinters do look good but I'd want a LWB, not enough room in a MWB for longer term trips. The pre CDi ones are said to be better, simpler electronics and proper difflocks and transfer/reduction gears. Big problem is rust! Although some ex RAF ones that aren't too bad appear from time to time, generally low mileage too.

I did look long and hard for a 4x4 Sprinter when we were selling the old 814DA 4x4 truck, not that we actually 'need' 4x4 but it's nice to be able to get a bit more off the beaten track from time to time.

In the end we've got a 2001 313 CDi LWB Sprinter, good bodywork and converted very nicely by the previous owners. Slightly more complicated electronics but no Cat, DPF or EGR thank god! Done about 100k miles so good for another 200k.

Had it on a weighbridge (empty) and it comes in at 2960kg so just over 1/2 tonne payload, might still look at getting it upgraded to 3840kg.

Andy Clarke


On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 06:07, Derek Sims <derek.sims@...> wrote:

. My platform of choice would be a Merc Sprinter MWB 4x4 auto, about 6m long. What a project! I can almost hear Andy salivating from here, although you’d probably go for something simpler and tougher wouldn’t you, Andy? Oh, if only I were twenty years younger! I’ve seen some brilliant conversions that people have picked up for three grand. For £30k you could have a mobile palace!



Re: Fiat Ducato Merc 316 Weight Upgrade

pj_home
 

Derek

Im looking for a motorhome to full time in for a year or two. We have in the past had an old 1989 Merc based 6 wheeler Hymer, a Hymer BS680 on a Merc 416 that was great an Autotrail Chieftain tag axle that had the perfect layout for us and could carry our weight but it was the coldest van Ive ever been in, draughts everywhere! Then we got an Autotrail Cheyenne 696 on a Merc 316 again perfect layout but I took it for an MOT and he wouldnt pick it up as it was over 4 ton on the rolling road, it was a 3850KG van so it had to go!

We work wardening on a campsite now in the summer and have a caravan (spit) and have been wintering in New Zealand at our daughters so didnt need the motorhome. She is moving to Canada so we wont be going there for the winter :) but will be wintering in Spain again for a couple of years at least hence the need to get another motorhome.

We would like to get something that can carry a full timers weight thats also not too big to wild camp in. Tall order i know. The other alternative is to keep the caravan for now and buy a 4 ton van and leave a lot of stuff behind. Problem there is Daughter is likely to visit us with Grandchild in winter so need the bunks, so it has to be a 6 berth.

Decisions decisions. Oh what fun lol

Paul

On 28/05/2019 06:07, Derek Sims wrote:
Paul
Are you looking for a motorhome or a panel van conversion? If the latter, why not buy a base vehicle, new or used, and have it converted or do it yourself? For £30k you could have an awesome bespoke vehicle. I wouldn’t be put off by mileage in a second hand commercial van. Last week we were in a Mercedes recovery truck with nearly half a million miles on the clock, running sweet as a nut, an absolute joy to ride in. My platform of choice would be a Merc Sprinter MWB 4x4 auto, about 6m long. What a project! I can almost hear Andy salivating from here, although you’d probably go for something simpler and tougher wouldn’t you, Andy? Oh, if only I were twenty years younger! I’ve seen some brilliant conversions that people have picked up for three grand. For £30k you could have a mobile palace!
Best of luck and remember to post the photos.
Derek
Best of luck with it and l
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On 27/05/2019 at 22:17, pj_home via Groups.Io wrote:

Thanks Carol and Derek much appreciated. Im going nuts looking mainly
thru ebay and autotrader at all the different models and layouts and
chassis. Its hard to remember what each one looks like and how much it
weighs etc but when I find a model number we like I then do a wider
search but that often throws up loads of out of date ads. Its not easy
spending £30K sometimes :)

Paul

On 27/05/2019 21:00, Carol Weaver wrote:

https://m.truckscout24.com/vehicle-details/Caravans-Campers-Mercedes-Benz-Le-voyageur-RX-Platinum-8-Semi-Integrated/18877754/2


Carol

On Mon, 27 May 2019 at 19:33, pj_home via Groups.Io
<paul.f.jackson=virgin.net@groups.io <mailto:virgin.net@groups.io>> wrote:

Thanks Martin. I forgot to look at Peter Hambilton Ive visited him in
the past for a small repair to my first Hymer. He is a long way from me
now though as we are now near Peterborough instead of Manchester. I
will
take a look though.

Paul

On 27/05/2019 17:40, Bennett Family wrote:
> I had a Hymer S820 which was very nice and was on a 6 ton chassis.
> Here’s one
>
http://www.freewheelleisure.co.uk/inventory/hymer-s820-mercedes-2-7-flagship-model-fully-loaded-55000-miles-immaculate-02/#progression-specs
>
> Here’s one from Peter Hambilton who’s been dealing with Hymers
for at
> least 30 years! It states 1 Tonne payload. £33k
>
> http://www.friendlyhippo.co.uk/hymerdirect/priv15.html
>
> http://www.friendlyhippo.co.uk/hymerdirect/priv15.html
>
>
> Martin
>
> On 27 May 2019, at 12:15, pj_home via Groups.Io
> <paul.f.jackson=virgin.net@groups.io <mailto:virgin.net@groups.io>
> <mailto:paul.f.jackson
<mailto:paul.f.jackson>=virgin.net@groups.io
<mailto:virgin.net@groups.io>>> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I am looking for a second hand van but really need something
that can
>> carry some weight. I need around a ton payload.
>>
>> I would like something on a Merc 4.6T chassis and it must have a
>> garage but theres nothing much around at my budget around £30K I
have
>> almost ruled out a tag axle Ducato like an Autotrail Chieftain
because
>> they are so long and not great for wild camping in Spain.
>>
>> So an Autotrail Cheyenne 696 has the right layout (two couches
at the
>> front a bed over the garage) but the weight at 3850KG is a bit low.
>> They do these on Ducato and also Merc 316 but Ive not seen anything
>> over 4T
>>
>> So does anyone know how much that weight can be improved how to go
>> about it and what docs would need to be sorted.
>>
>> I dont mind looking into air ride extra springs etc as long as I
can
>> get a van and do the changes within my budget.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> ---
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Re: Fiat Ducato Merc 316 Weight Upgrade

Derek Sims
 

Paul

Are you looking for a motorhome or a panel van conversion? If the latter, why not buy a base vehicle, new or used, and have it converted or do it yourself? For £30k you could have an awesome bespoke vehicle. I wouldn’t be put off by mileage in a second hand commercial van. Last week we were in a Mercedes recovery truck with nearly half a million miles on the clock, running sweet as a nut, an absolute joy to ride in. My platform of choice would be a Merc Sprinter MWB 4x4 auto, about 6m long. What a project! I can almost hear Andy salivating from here, although you’d probably go for something simpler and tougher wouldn’t you, Andy? Oh, if only I were twenty years younger! I’ve seen some brilliant conversions that people have picked up for three grand. For £30k you could have a mobile palace!

Best of luck and remember to post the photos.

Derek

Best of luck with it and l
Sent using the GMX mail app

On 27/05/2019 at 22:17, pj_home via Groups.Io wrote:

Thanks Carol and Derek much appreciated. Im going nuts looking mainly
thru ebay and autotrader at all the different models and layouts and
chassis. Its hard to remember what each one looks like and how much it
weighs etc but when I find a model number we like I then do a wider
search but that often throws up loads of out of date ads. Its not easy
spending £30K sometimes :)

Paul

On 27/05/2019 21:00, Carol Weaver wrote:

https://m.truckscout24.com/vehicle-details/Caravans-Campers-Mercedes-Benz-Le-voyageur-RX-Platinum-8-Semi-Integrated/18877754/2


Carol

On Mon, 27 May 2019 at 19:33, pj_home via Groups.Io
<paul.f.jackson=virgin.net@groups.io <mailto:virgin.net@groups.io>> wrote:

Thanks Martin. I forgot to look at Peter Hambilton Ive visited him in
the past for a small repair to my first Hymer. He is a long way from me
now though as we are now near Peterborough instead of Manchester. I
will
take a look though.

Paul

On 27/05/2019 17:40, Bennett Family wrote:
> I had a Hymer S820 which was very nice and was on a 6 ton chassis.
> Here’s one
>
http://www.freewheelleisure.co.uk/inventory/hymer-s820-mercedes-2-7-flagship-model-fully-loaded-55000-miles-immaculate-02/#progression-specs
>
> Here’s one from Peter Hambilton who’s been dealing with Hymers
for at
> least 30 years! It states 1 Tonne payload. £33k
>
> http://www.friendlyhippo.co.uk/hymerdirect/priv15.html
>
> http://www.friendlyhippo.co.uk/hymerdirect/priv15.html
>
>
> Martin
>
> On 27 May 2019, at 12:15, pj_home via Groups.Io
> <paul.f.jackson=virgin.net@groups.io <mailto:virgin.net@groups.io>
> <mailto:paul.f.jackson
<mailto:paul.f.jackson>=virgin.net@groups.io
<mailto:virgin.net@groups.io>>> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I am looking for a second hand van but really need something
that can
>> carry some weight. I need around a ton payload.
>>
>> I would like something on a Merc 4.6T chassis and it must have a
>> garage but theres nothing much around at my budget around £30K I
have
>> almost ruled out a tag axle Ducato like an Autotrail Chieftain
because
>> they are so long and not great for wild camping in Spain.
>>
>> So an Autotrail Cheyenne 696 has the right layout (two couches
at the
>> front a bed over the garage) but the weight at 3850KG is a bit low.
>> They do these on Ducato and also Merc 316 but Ive not seen anything
>> over 4T
>>
>> So does anyone know how much that weight can be improved how to go
>> about it and what docs would need to be sorted.
>>
>> I dont mind looking into air ride extra springs etc as long as I
can
>> get a van and do the changes within my budget.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> ---
>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>> https://www.avg.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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