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Re: airconditioning

timsinc Sinclair
 

Some great thinking... thank you all for input. Of unrealised
consideration is the factor about humidity and effectiveness.

Happens my digital thermometer in my van shows today (in a 20C windy
sun&cloud south-east) humidity level 36. At its peak seen figure 70,
but average under 50 - even after showering in van!

In recent heatwave (33.4C at Heathrow not far away, 38C in van) I used
my slightly more bulky fan heater on fan-only. Thankfully not too
noisy, so slept through the night. Daytime, however, at one stage
fired up and ran the VW T5 engine with the cab aircon on.

Result of it all: still undecided!

Tim

On 05/07/2020, M Stevenson <atcop.co@gmail.com> wrote:
This will slowly increase the humidity in the van, which in turn will
decrease the efficiency of the unit, to the point it stops working. So the
damp air needs venting to the outside.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporative_cooler

A nice big fan and wearing a black t-shirt will use your body's natural
evaporative system just as well. This mechanism can also be topped up with a
nice cold beer occasionally. 😉

HoHum,
Max

On 5 Jul 2020 12:05 p.m., Keith Smith <tasman2405@gmail.com> wrote:

We have the Transcool version of this "air conditioner" - you are
obviously aware that it is not such a thing - however - I have to say that
bby putting 'fridge blocks into the machine as well as the water it did
cool us down in quite high temperatures in Greece and Sicily last year -
not perfect but at the price quoted - worth a punt.
Keith


On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 11:03, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm tempted by this £60, wee supposed a/c unit. No room on
conservatory-like-sun-trap-camper roof for proper a/c, or bank balance
for such.

Wondered what others think or even maybe experienced.

https://qualibeauty.co.uk/products/aircondition-uk?fbclid=IwAR37VNZYfByJxSGg9JeNrDJ9rv-d4SkK9k19u7OhnrwZnXhQ9oZAPk5_qGc

I know it doesn't actually refrigerate the air - I had this huge unit
using similar system on a boat in which I used to live. Big area to
cool, it was ok but only when sat in front of it! Better when adding
ice to water. But for the small area of my tiny camper ?

Tim


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Re: airconditioning

Alan Morris
 

On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 10:03, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm tempted by this £60, wee supposed a/c unit.
Have you ever wondered why there are no 12 volt powered a/c units?

This is only USB 5 volt.

Alan.


Re: airconditioning

Ernest Bull
 

On 5 Jul 2020, at 11:03, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...> wrote:

Wondered what others think or even maybe experienced.

I seem to remember some bad reviews on such USB fans. Probably because of the very low power. I have an IcyCool mains powered 4 in 1 job and it blows an icy hurricane on top speed. And even though it can evaporate a gallon of ice water in a couple of hours, it only dropped recent room temps of 30+ down to 27 or 28. 

But hey! Better than nothing. When we travelled to hotter climes, we relied on two dodges. Battery powered fan sprays https://www.amazon.com/O2COOL-Handheld-Operated-Portable-Personal/dp/B00ATSJ6X0 

And dampened face flannels in plastic bags popped into the freezer. 

I noticed, too, in scenes in ME countries of large spray fans. I am talking of 1M in did. But how about one of these? https://tinyurl.com/y76lp23x 

HTH
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ErnB



Re: airconditioning

Carol Weaver
 

Money back guarantee nothing lost so worth a try. 

C

On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 11:03, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...> wrote:
I'm tempted by this £60, wee supposed a/c unit. No room on
conservatory-like-sun-trap-camper roof for proper a/c, or bank balance
for such.

Wondered what others think or even maybe experienced.

https://qualibeauty.co.uk/products/aircondition-uk?fbclid=IwAR37VNZYfByJxSGg9JeNrDJ9rv-d4SkK9k19u7OhnrwZnXhQ9oZAPk5_qGc

I know it doesn't actually refrigerate the air - I had this huge unit
using similar system on a boat in which I used to live. Big area to
cool, it was ok but only when sat in front of it! Better when adding
ice to water. But for the small area of my tiny camper ?

Tim



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Re: airconditioning

M Stevenson
 

This will slowly increase the humidity in the van, which in turn will decrease the efficiency of the unit, to the point it stops working. So the damp air needs venting to the outside.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporative_cooler

A nice big fan and wearing a black t-shirt will use your body's natural evaporative system just as well. This mechanism can also be topped up with a nice cold beer occasionally. 😉

HoHum,
Max

On 5 Jul 2020 12:05 p.m., Keith Smith <tasman2405@...> wrote:
We have the Transcool version of this "air conditioner" - you are obviously aware that it is not such a thing - however - I have to say that bby putting 'fridge blocks into the machine as well as the water it did cool us down in quite high temperatures in Greece and Sicily last year - not perfect but at the price quoted - worth a punt.
Keith


On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 11:03, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...> wrote:
I'm tempted by this £60, wee supposed a/c unit. No room on
conservatory-like-sun-trap-camper roof for proper a/c, or bank balance
for such.

Wondered what others think or even maybe experienced.

https://qualibeauty.co.uk/products/aircondition-uk?fbclid=IwAR37VNZYfByJxSGg9JeNrDJ9rv-d4SkK9k19u7OhnrwZnXhQ9oZAPk5_qGc

I know it doesn't actually refrigerate the air - I had this huge unit
using similar system on a boat in which I used to live. Big area to
cool, it was ok but only when sat in front of it! Better when adding
ice to water. But for the small area of my tiny camper ?

Tim




Re: airconditioning

Keith Smith
 

We have the Transcool version of this "air conditioner" - you are obviously aware that it is not such a thing - however - I have to say that bby putting 'fridge blocks into the machine as well as the water it did cool us down in quite high temperatures in Greece and Sicily last year - not perfect but at the price quoted - worth a punt.
Keith


On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 11:03, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...> wrote:
I'm tempted by this £60, wee supposed a/c unit. No room on
conservatory-like-sun-trap-camper roof for proper a/c, or bank balance
for such.

Wondered what others think or even maybe experienced.

https://qualibeauty.co.uk/products/aircondition-uk?fbclid=IwAR37VNZYfByJxSGg9JeNrDJ9rv-d4SkK9k19u7OhnrwZnXhQ9oZAPk5_qGc

I know it doesn't actually refrigerate the air - I had this huge unit
using similar system on a boat in which I used to live. Big area to
cool, it was ok but only when sat in front of it! Better when adding
ice to water. But for the small area of my tiny camper ?

Tim




Re: airconditioning

I'm Bazbro
 

This unit relies on DRY AIR to work best.  It's an evaporative air cooler (a mini 'swamp-cooler') but if the air is already as "damp" as it normally is in the UK, then the "evaporation" is markedly reduced.  They don't work as well in this country as in hot, dry places.
Without testing it, I'm guessing the output will be of the "mouse cough" variety, but I'm happy to be proved wrong.

On Sun, 5 Jul 2020, 11:03 am timsinc Sinclair, <timsinc@...> wrote:
I'm tempted by this £60, wee supposed a/c unit. No room on
conservatory-like-sun-trap-camper roof for proper a/c, or bank balance
for such.

Wondered what others think or even maybe experienced.

https://qualibeauty.co.uk/products/aircondition-uk?fbclid=IwAR37VNZYfByJxSGg9JeNrDJ9rv-d4SkK9k19u7OhnrwZnXhQ9oZAPk5_qGc

I know it doesn't actually refrigerate the air - I had this huge unit
using similar system on a boat in which I used to live. Big area to
cool, it was ok but only when sat in front of it! Better when adding
ice to water. But for the small area of my tiny camper ?

Tim




Re: airconditioning

M Stevenson
 

Hi,

Evaporative coolers are OK ish provided that the ambient humidity is low.

I bought a simple one from B&Q years ago, it did cool the air very slightly but it has since sat in the loft for years gathering dust. It was relatively noisy, and the water was in a simple tray, with a six inch square 'wick' and a small pump.
Had to bleach the wick a few times to remove black mould!!

If the humidity is high, it's useless, just like wasted sweat running down your body with no cooling effect.

Regards
Max


Re: airconditioning

Bennett Family
 

I looked at something similar on FB yesterday. There were quite a lot of negative comments. 

I suspect you would need to have the door closed or sit I front of it to a get a noticeable effect. 

But for £60 it would be worth Tim buying one and letting us know!

Martin

On 5 Jul 2020, at 11:39, Mick Potter <mickpotter@...> wrote:


I looked at things like this.  They fill the place with water vapour.  This may not necessarily be a problem, but you need to take it into account.

The principle works.  A few years back I had a room in a cheap hotel in India.  There was an opening onto the landing, with a pile of damp straw and a fan blowing cooled air into the room.

If you get one, let us know how it works.

Mick

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On Sunday, 5 July 2020, 11:03:09 BST, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...> wrote:


I'm tempted by this £60, wee supposed a/c unit. No room on
conservatory-like-sun-trap-camper roof for proper a/c, or bank balance
for such.

Wondered what others think or even maybe experienced.


I know it doesn't actually refrigerate the air - I had this huge unit
using similar system on a boat in which I used to live. Big area to
cool, it was ok but only when sat in front of it! Better when adding
ice to water. But for the small area of my tiny camper ?

Tim



Re: airconditioning

Mick Potter
 

I looked at things like this.  They fill the place with water vapour.  This may not necessarily be a problem, but you need to take it into account.

The principle works.  A few years back I had a room in a cheap hotel in India.  There was an opening onto the landing, with a pile of damp straw and a fan blowing cooled air into the room.

If you get one, let us know how it works.

Mick

___________________________________________________________
Please make sure the only e-mail address you use for me is mickpotter@... or mickpotter@....  Any others you may find are likely to be temporary, and to disappear at a moment's notice.  I should hate to miss anything you send me.  Thanks.


On Sunday, 5 July 2020, 11:03:09 BST, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...> wrote:


I'm tempted by this £60, wee supposed a/c unit. No room on
conservatory-like-sun-trap-camper roof for proper a/c, or bank balance
for such.

Wondered what others think or even maybe experienced.


I know it doesn't actually refrigerate the air - I had this huge unit
using similar system on a boat in which I used to live. Big area to
cool, it was ok but only when sat in front of it! Better when adding
ice to water. But for the small area of my tiny camper ?

Tim



airconditioning

timsinc Sinclair
 

I'm tempted by this £60, wee supposed a/c unit. No room on
conservatory-like-sun-trap-camper roof for proper a/c, or bank balance
for such.

Wondered what others think or even maybe experienced.

https://qualibeauty.co.uk/products/aircondition-uk?fbclid=IwAR37VNZYfByJxSGg9JeNrDJ9rv-d4SkK9k19u7OhnrwZnXhQ9oZAPk5_qGc

I know it doesn't actually refrigerate the air - I had this huge unit
using similar system on a boat in which I used to live. Big area to
cool, it was ok but only when sat in front of it! Better when adding
ice to water. But for the small area of my tiny camper ?

Tim


Re: E-scooters from Saturday

Neill King \(MH-List\)
 

Went metric??  Pints, Fl oz, miles, mph, etc! J

 

Neill

 

From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Derek Sims
Sent: 02 July 2020 14:31
To: Motorhome List
Subject: Re: Re: [motorhome-list] E-scooters from Saturday

 

I'm restoring a "real" bike from 1995 - no electric motor, steel frame. Unfortunately
the handlebar stem had seized in the forks and I sadly had to saw off the top to get it out. When I looked at the diameter I had to drill out to I thought it was weird at 22.2mm. Then it dawned on me - it's 7/8in! And this 25 years after we went metric.

Derek



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On 02/07/2020, 13:05 "Neill King &#92;(MH-List&#92;)" <yahoo@...> wrote:

Tut tut, a 568.261ml surely?  OK ~570?!

 

Neill

 

From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Derek Sims
Sent: 02 July 2020 09:40
To: Motorhome List
Subject: Re: Re: [motorhome-list] E-scooters from Saturday

 

Ah, the perils of being an ex-engineer. I find myself constantly annoyed by oeople who measure in centimetres because they're not SI units. Still, after Brexit's finalised, I'm sure Jacob Mog will take us all back to cubits and other appropriate medieval units.

Anyone for a 550ml?

Derek


Re: E-scooters from Saturday

Neill King \(MH-List\)
 

Got my predictive txt switched off – pain in the bum!

 

 

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Sent: 02 July 2020 15:55
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [motorhome-list] E-scooters from Saturday

 

 



On 2 Jul 2020, at 06:57, Carol Weaver <corconx@...> wrote:

 

Predictive text again! 

 

That and self correcting.  Distant cousin umpteen times removed, spelt their lad’s name Malacky, instead of Malachi. He’s a terrific lad, but every time I write his name in a text on my iPhone, it changes his name to MALARKY!! 

 

BBC have the same problem with their auto sub-titles. I’ve spotted several very naughty words from time to  time. 

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Your group leaders have been working in the background to keep up with our ever expanding group.
We would like to let our members know some of the things that we are doing on your behalf.
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How can you help?
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Keep posting your ideas they are all welcome
If you have specialist skills we need your help on our leadership team.
If you have contacts in the right places let us know or put them in touch with us.
But mainly keep positive we are all excited and optimistic that we can make progress with a much needed voice.

Get ready for the SELFIE STORM too!!!!

 

 

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Re: E-scooters from Saturday

Peter S
 

Well that wasn't right either as apparently I was converting US gals. My new calculation is 7.06 litres per 100 km = 40 mpg - UK gallons.

Is that right? Confuse? I am.

Peter S

On 02/07/2020 15:57:00, Peter S <peter@...> wrote:

I don't think we have ever gone metric really. Just as well for me as I haven't a clue whether 5.88036 litres per 100 km is better than 40 mpg.

Peter S

PS They are the same.

On 02/07/2020 14:31:31, Derek Sims <derek.sims@...> wrote:

I'm restoring a "real" bike from 1995 - no electric motor, steel frame. Unfortunately
the handlebar stem had seized in the forks and I sadly had to saw off the top to get it out. When I looked at the diameter I had to drill out to I thought it was weird at 22.2mm. Then it dawned on me - it's 7/8in! And this 25 years after we went metric.

Derek



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On 02/07/2020, 13:05 "Neill King &#92;(MH-List&#92;)" <yahoo@...> wrote:

Tut tut, a 568.261ml surely?  OK ~570?!

 

Neill

 

From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Derek Sims
Sent: 02 July 2020 09:40
To: Motorhome List
Subject: Re: Re: [motorhome-list] E-scooters from Saturday

 

Ah, the perils of being an ex-engineer. I find myself constantly annoyed by oeople who measure in centimetres because they're not SI units. Still, after Brexit's finalised, I'm sure Jacob Mog will take us all back to cubits and other appropriate medieval units.

Anyone for a 550ml?

Derek



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Re: E-scooters from Saturday

Peter S
 

I don't think we have ever gone metric really. Just as well for me as I haven't a clue whether 5.88036 litres per 100 km is better than 40 mpg.

Peter S

PS They are the same.

On 02/07/2020 14:31:31, Derek Sims <derek.sims@...> wrote:

I'm restoring a "real" bike from 1995 - no electric motor, steel frame. Unfortunately
the handlebar stem had seized in the forks and I sadly had to saw off the top to get it out. When I looked at the diameter I had to drill out to I thought it was weird at 22.2mm. Then it dawned on me - it's 7/8in! And this 25 years after we went metric.

Derek



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On 02/07/2020, 13:05 "Neill King &#92;(MH-List&#92;)" <yahoo@...> wrote:

Tut tut, a 568.261ml surely?  OK ~570?!

 

Neill

 

From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Derek Sims
Sent: 02 July 2020 09:40
To: Motorhome List
Subject: Re: Re: [motorhome-list] E-scooters from Saturday

 

Ah, the perils of being an ex-engineer. I find myself constantly annoyed by oeople who measure in centimetres because they're not SI units. Still, after Brexit's finalised, I'm sure Jacob Mog will take us all back to cubits and other appropriate medieval units.

Anyone for a 550ml?

Derek



Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: E-scooters from Saturday

Ernest Bull
 



On 2 Jul 2020, at 06:57, Carol Weaver <corconx@...> wrote:

Predictive text again! 

That and self correcting.  Distant cousin umpteen times removed, spelt their lad’s name Malacky, instead of Malachi. He’s a terrific lad, but every time I write his name in a text on my iPhone, it changes his name to MALARKY!! 

BBC have the same problem with their auto sub-titles. I’ve spotted several very naughty words from time to  time. 
———

ErnB


Re: E-scooters from Saturday

Derek Sims
 

I'm restoring a "real" bike from 1995 - no electric motor, steel frame. Unfortunately
the handlebar stem had seized in the forks and I sadly had to saw off the top to get it out. When I looked at the diameter I had to drill out to I thought it was weird at 22.2mm. Then it dawned on me - it's 7/8in! And this 25 years after we went metric.

Derek



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On 02/07/2020, 13:05 "Neill King &#92;(MH-List&#92;)" <yahoo@...> wrote:

Tut tut, a 568.261ml surely?  OK ~570?!

 

Neill

 

From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Derek Sims
Sent: 02 July 2020 09:40
To: Motorhome List
Subject: Re: Re: [motorhome-list] E-scooters from Saturday

 

Ah, the perils of being an ex-engineer. I find myself constantly annoyed by oeople who measure in centimetres because they're not SI units. Still, after Brexit's finalised, I'm sure Jacob Mog will take us all back to cubits and other appropriate medieval units.

Anyone for a 550ml?

Derek



Re: E-scooters from Saturday

David Scholes
 

Ah the perils of being a historian. The cubit was a biblical measurement. The medieval measurements would be the yard, foot and inch with hands for horses and rod, pole or perch for something a bit bigger.
Oh hang on a minute, they look familiar. Oh yes, that’s what I learnt at school.

David

Btw thank for the clarification between horse power and watts. And now I remember that the Chris Hoys of this world kick out about 750 of them, 3 times what the ebikes do.


On 2 Jul 2020, at 13:05, Neill King &#92;(MH-List&#92;) <yahoo@...> wrote:



Tut tut, a 568.261ml surely?  OK ~570?!

 

Neill

 

From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Derek Sims
Sent: 02 July 2020 09:40
To: Motorhome List
Subject: Re: Re: [motorhome-list] E-scooters from Saturday

 

Ah, the perils of being an ex-engineer. I find myself constantly annoyed by oeople who measure in centimetres because they're not SI units. Still, after Brexit's finalised, I'm sure Jacob Mog will take us all back to cubits and other appropriate medieval units.

Anyone for a 550ml?

Derek



Re: E-scooters from Saturday

Neill King \(MH-List\)
 

Tut tut, a 568.261ml surely?  OK ~570?!

 

Neill

 

From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Derek Sims
Sent: 02 July 2020 09:40
To: Motorhome List
Subject: Re: Re: [motorhome-list] E-scooters from Saturday

 

Ah, the perils of being an ex-engineer. I find myself constantly annoyed by oeople who measure in centimetres because they're not SI units. Still, after Brexit's finalised, I'm sure Jacob Mog will take us all back to cubits and other appropriate medieval units.

Anyone for a 550ml?

Derek


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