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Re: Sat Navs

timsinc Sinclair
 

On 28/07/2020, Brian Reay via groups.io <g8osn=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
One major attraction over the TomTom is the update procedure. ...Not only is it [Garmin] FAR quicker than the
TomTom (even with very fast Internet, our TomToms took AGES to update
TomTom have very recently addressed that. It was down to the map size
- like western Europe (inc UK, Ireland) was 7/8gb. Now you can
download really much smaller maps, like only south-east England in
minutes. For now (Covid times) I have downloaded only all the separate
maps for the UK. Took about 20 minutes using only 4g data connection.

Tim


Re: Hi All Can members please tell me what they put in their cassettes . I was advised by the list to put bio tablets from lidl but they dont sell them anymore Than kyou for your help.Lenvee

Andy Clarke
 

I've been using Lidl Formil liquid, can't say I'm over impressed with it. Put a couple of capfulls in after emptying then need to put another 2 in after a couple of days or so.

Andy Clarke 

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 14:52 Bennett Family via groups.io, <martin.bennett47=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
Apparently any bio ones work, I’m using Persil at the moment because that’s what we use for the clothes. 

Martin


On 28 Jul 2020, at 14:16, Lenvee Hughes <lenvee@...> wrote:




Re: Hi All Can members please tell me what they put in their cassettes . I was advised by the list to put bio tablets from lidl but they dont sell them anymore Than kyou for your help.Lenvee

Bennett Family
 

Apparently any bio ones work, I’m using Persil at the moment because that’s what we use for the clothes. 

Martin


On 28 Jul 2020, at 14:16, Lenvee Hughes <lenvee@...> wrote:




Hi All Can members please tell me what they put in their cassettes . I was advised by the list to put bio tablets from lidl but they dont sell them anymore Than kyou for your help.Lenvee

Lenvee Hughes
 



Re: was Waste disposal now Wild Camping/Aires

Sandytrax
 

“It seems to be a more common in the UK, litter etc is something you see far less of in Europe”

There’s lots of litter in Greece! Litter along most roads and at beauty spots, stunning views, lots of litter of all kinds. Used toilet paper, condoms, and other delights. The better the view, the better place for fly tipping!!

I doubt it’s caused by motorhomers! 


I was wondering why and thought that maybe the Keep Britain Tidy campaign had a positive effect. Maybe it needs reviving.

Happy travels!
Brian


On 28 Jul 2020, at 14:41, Bennett Family via groups.io <martin.bennett47@...> wrote:

On another list someone was saying that we need to stop using the term “wild camping” as it gives the wrong impression and includes everyone with tents and without facilities. 

Overnight parking places is a better description of what is required for self-contained motorhomes.

Martin

On 28 Jul 2020, at 11:57, Brian Reay via groups.io <g8osn@...> wrote:

Unfortunately, there are people, including motorhomers, who have no respect for others or the environment (and I'm not a tree hugger).  It seems to be a more common in the UK, litter etc is something you see far less of in Europe (or the USA).  I can't help thinking it is partly why there is so much opposition to the introduction of 'Aires' in the UK and people who 'wild camp', even if they are responsible.  I see there has been  surge in  'wild camping' (more with tents) recently due to  recent events and the police are clamping down due to litter, open fires, etc.  This won't do  the hopes of introducing Aires etc any favours.

Several areas (mainly near the coast) near me (I'm in North Kent) have had restrictions imposed due to people in motorhomes emptying waste etc into road drains or onto the road. This has caused even us problems as I would like to use the motorhome as a 'base' while fishing in the evening and the restrictions apply from 6 or 7 pm. 

We always use sites- we like our 'comforts' but I would like to see Aires in the UK so we could, at least, have the option of over nighting on longer trips etc. 

Brian


Re: was Waste disposal now Wild Camping/Aires

Bennett Family
 

On another list someone was saying that we need to stop using the term “wild camping” as it gives the wrong impression and includes everyone with tents and without facilities. 

Overnight parking places is a better description of what is required for self-contained motorhomes.

Martin

On 28 Jul 2020, at 11:57, Brian Reay via groups.io <g8osn@...> wrote:

Unfortunately, there are people, including motorhomers, who have no respect for others or the environment (and I'm not a tree hugger).  It seems to be a more common in the UK, litter etc is something you see far less of in Europe (or the USA).  I can't help thinking it is partly why there is so much opposition to the introduction of 'Aires' in the UK and people who 'wild camp', even if they are responsible.  I see there has been  surge in  'wild camping' (more with tents) recently due to  recent events and the police are clamping down due to litter, open fires, etc.  This won't do  the hopes of introducing Aires etc any favours.

Several areas (mainly near the coast) near me (I'm in North Kent) have had restrictions imposed due to people in motorhomes emptying waste etc into road drains or onto the road. This has caused even us problems as I would like to use the motorhome as a 'base' while fishing in the evening and the restrictions apply from 6 or 7 pm. 

We always use sites- we like our 'comforts' but I would like to see Aires in the UK so we could, at least, have the option of over nighting on longer trips etc. 

Brian


Re: Sat Navs

Brian Reay
 

I like the Garmins. 

We have one of the 'Camper' models in the Motorhome- you can pop in the vehicle size etc and it avoids low bridges, narrow roads etc. It isn't perfect, like all SatNavs it has 'quirks' but we find it better than the TomTom we used before.  

We also have a similar, simpler, model in the Smart Car we tow. 

One major attraction over the TomTom is the update procedure. Both have the option of sticking your Wifi details into the units and you just press a few buttons and leave it to do the update. Not only is it FAR quicker than the TomTom (even with very fast Internet, our TomToms took AGES to update and I dreaded doing it). The Garmins do it quickly and without any stress.  

Both of ours came with 'life time' updates (several years in real terms I suspect). They aren't the cheapest- I think the Camper version was several hundred pounds but a map  update for our main car (a Mitsubsishi) cost £100+ so that puts the overall cost in perspective.

Brian


Re: Waste disposal

Brian Reay
 

Unfortunately, there are people, including motorhomers, who have no respect for others or the environment (and I'm not a tree hugger).  It seems to be a more common in the UK, litter etc is something you see far less of in Europe (or the USA).  I can't help thinking it is partly why there is so much opposition to the introduction of 'Aires' in the UK and people who 'wild camp', even if they are responsible.  I see there has been  surge in  'wild camping' (more with tents) recently due to  recent events and the police are clamping down due to litter, open fires, etc.  This won't do  the hopes of introducing Aires etc any favours.

Several areas (mainly near the coast) near me (I'm in North Kent) have had restrictions imposed due to people in motorhomes emptying waste etc into road drains or onto the road. This has caused even us problems as I would like to use the motorhome as a 'base' while fishing in the evening and the restrictions apply from 6 or 7 pm. 

We always use sites- we like our 'comforts' but I would like to see Aires in the UK so we could, at least, have the option of over nighting on longer trips etc. 

Brian


Re: BBC Four on FreeSat

pj_home
 

Ernie

Lyngsat says its only on 10773 for SD see here https://www.lyngsat.com/Astra-2E-2F-2G.html all the tuning info is there

Paul

On 25/07/2020 08:54, Ernest Bull wrote:
I cannot get BBBC Four on Astra 2 @ 28E.
10773 H - 22000 finds several new channels, but not BBC Four.
My now unsupported IceCrypt 3500 does not have an option to tune 11023 H.
If you are receiving it OK, could you please post the tuning data.
TIA
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Re: Old style Truma Dump valve

Bennett Family
 

Thanks.

Martin

On 25 Jul 2020, at 13:55, David Scholes <scholesd@...> wrote:

Suggest you try google translate. Take a photo of each page of the instructions with your phone then just go into the camera part of google translate and pick a picture at a time. I did it with the ADAC stuff and it works good.

David
On 25 Jul 2020, at 12:19, Bennett Family via groups.io <martin.bennett47=me.com@groups.io> wrote:


When you turn on a tap in my son’s 1996 Hymer B544, a very small trickle comes from the tap an water seems to be running out via the dump valve (I think). It had an on/off switch and a yellow press button. Any idea what position they should be in. The English Instruction brochure shows the more modern pull up unit, whereas the German one shows the correct one but I don’t read German.

If the unit fails does it default to emptying?

Any clues would be appreciated.
Photos attached.

Martin





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Re: Old style Truma Dump valve

David Scholes
 

Suggest you try google translate. Take a photo of each page of the instructions with your phone then just go into the camera part of google translate and pick a picture at a time. I did it with the ADAC stuff and it works good.

David

On 25 Jul 2020, at 12:19, Bennett Family via groups.io <martin.bennett47=me.com@groups.io> wrote:


When you turn on a tap in my son’s 1996 Hymer B544, a very small trickle comes from the tap an water seems to be running out via the dump valve (I think). It had an on/off switch and a yellow press button. Any idea what position they should be in. The English Instruction brochure shows the more modern pull up unit, whereas the German one shows the correct one but I don’t read German.

If the unit fails does it default to emptying?

Any clues would be appreciated.
Photos attached.

Martin





Martin Bennett

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Re: Old style Truma Dump valve

Bennett Family
 

Worked it out.
Switch on & depress.
Works ok so leak is elsewhere.

Martin Bennett

On 25 Jul 2020, at 12:19, Bennett Family via groups.io <martin.bennett47=me.com@groups.io> wrote:


When you turn on a tap in my son’s 1996 Hymer B544, a very small trickle comes from the tap an water seems to be running out via the dump valve (I think). It had an on/off switch and a yellow press button. Any idea what position they should be in. The English Instruction brochure shows the more modern pull up unit, whereas the German one shows the correct one but I don’t read German.

If the unit fails does it default to emptying?

Any clues would be appreciated.
Photos attached.

Martin





Martin Bennett

Attachments:
image0.jpeg: https://groups.io/g/motorhome-list/attachment/101634/0
image1.jpeg: https://groups.io/g/motorhome-list/attachment/101634/1
image2.jpeg: https://groups.io/g/motorhome-list/attachment/101634/2



Old style Truma Dump valve

Bennett Family
 

When you turn on a tap in my son’s 1996 Hymer B544, a very small trickle comes from the tap an water seems to be running out via the dump valve (I think). It had an on/off switch and a yellow press button. Any idea what position they should be in. The English Instruction brochure shows the more modern pull up unit, whereas the German one shows the correct one but I don’t read German.

If the unit fails does it default to emptying?

Any clues would be appreciated.
Photos attached.

Martin





Martin Bennett


Re: BBC Four on FreeSat

Carol Weaver
 

Ernie on our satellite it changed from 110 to 173 but not sure how to find out more for you

Carol

On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 08:54, Ernest Bull <ernb32@...> wrote:
I cannot get BBBC Four on Astra 2 @ 28E.

10773 H - 22000 finds several new channels, but not BBC Four.

My now unsupported IceCrypt 3500 does not have an option to tune 11023 H.

If you are receiving it OK, could you please post the tuning data.

TIA
_______

ErnB



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BBC Four on FreeSat

Ernest Bull
 

I cannot get BBBC Four on Astra 2 @ 28E.

10773 H - 22000 finds several new channels, but not BBC Four.

My now unsupported IceCrypt 3500 does not have an option to tune 11023 H.

If you are receiving it OK, could you please post the tuning data.

TIA
_______

ErnB


Re: Sat Nav TomTom

timsinc Sinclair
 

You're the expert, Alan, but I do question..........
Buying an old device has drawbacks. Maps don't show new roads and are
slow to display, thus missing a turn.
Even the last year's models advertised at a discount do have automatic
map updates.

Cheaper ones have a poor receiver compared to newer ones, so less
accurate and loss of fixes in towns and under trees.
That's why I use my phone with the relevant nav app rather than a
standalone GPS device - far more powerful and with constant (sometimes
annoying) app updates. Not only that, its gps receiver must be better
- it gets signal indoors, so long as somewhere near a window. Trees
and city buildings never been a problem.

Tim



On 22/07/2020, Alan Morris <alan.g4ens@...> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 11:33, Brent <brentiow.c@...> wrote:

I've also received this email 2 or 3 times but when I go to the "offer"
it's only on one model - not across the whole range and their "trade-in"
decreases on other models

Also haven't seen where you can apply it to a camper version of TomTom!!
After so many months of folk not buying a new SatNav/GPSr, they are
all keen to clear out their old stock. So discounts on old designs
and not their current top-of-the-range or new releases not yet
available - Garmin Camper 890, 8-inch camper navigator with Live
Traffic. Available 3rd Quarter 2020. Potentially the best buy for
the average motorhomer!

Buying an old device has drawbacks. Maps don't show new roads and are
slow to display, thus missing a turn. Also very old devices might not
continue to work. The GPS system works on a week number base system,
much like a car's speedo mileage display. When it reaches full house,
it starts again at zero, then old ones stop working.and/or display the
wrong date.

Cheaper ones have a poor receiver compared to newer ones, so less
accurate and loss of fixes in towns and under trees.

Alan.

My interpretations:-
SatNav: a device to get from where you are to point B, by any route.
GPSr: a device to get from anywhere (point A) to anywhere (point
B), by your selected route type and full control of waypoints/POIs,
with route planning on some.




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Re: Sat Nav TomTom

Alan Morris
 

On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 11:33, Brent <brentiow.c@...> wrote:

I've also received this email 2 or 3 times but when I go to the "offer" it's only on one model - not across the whole range and their "trade-in" decreases on other models

Also haven't seen where you can apply it to a camper version of TomTom!!
After so many months of folk not buying a new SatNav/GPSr, they are
all keen to clear out their old stock. So discounts on old designs
and not their current top-of-the-range or new releases not yet
available - Garmin Camper 890, 8-inch camper navigator with Live
Traffic. Available 3rd Quarter 2020. Potentially the best buy for
the average motorhomer!

Buying an old device has drawbacks. Maps don't show new roads and are
slow to display, thus missing a turn. Also very old devices might not
continue to work. The GPS system works on a week number base system,
much like a car's speedo mileage display. When it reaches full house,
it starts again at zero, then old ones stop working.and/or display the
wrong date.

Cheaper ones have a poor receiver compared to newer ones, so less
accurate and loss of fixes in towns and under trees.

Alan.

My interpretations:-
SatNav: a device to get from where you are to point B, by any route.
GPSr: a device to get from anywhere (point A) to anywhere (point
B), by your selected route type and full control of waypoints/POIs,
with route planning on some.


Re: Sat Nav TomTom

Brent
 

Thought I'd replied to this earlier!!?

Frank wrote:

Further to the Garmin, I’ve just received this from TomTom:

 

Your TomTom XXXX XXX is worth £110

Lockdowns are easing up, bringing the possibility closer to get away somewhere.

It's perhaps the perfect time to prepare for a new road trip. We'd like to offer you, as TomTom customer, a discount of up to £110 on our latest models with LIVE traffic, easy updates via Wi-Fi®, map updates, all included!

 

Cheers, Frank

I've also received this email 2 or 3 times but when I go to the "offer" it's only on one model - not across the whole range and their "trade-in" decreases on other models

Also haven't seen where you can apply it to a camper version of TomTom!! 

Take care


Re: Waste disposal

Nick
 

I would have thought that whoever it was that actually witnessed the culprit committing the dastardly deed would have had a word (or two) in their ear.

Nick.


Re: Sat Navs

Roy Coldrick
 

Hi - yes Carol is right. I bought one of the Truck SatNav’s off eBay for very little money and , yes, it worked well. I gave it away when we sold our last big van.

The hardware of that unit was old and the software was even older but the IGO software was , in my view, better than most and is available separately, I think , to run on an IPad say. The only problem was that , despite the hood that came with it, the screen was almost unreadable when the sun was out. Obviously this was never a problem for us in Herefordshire but when we went further it was a problem.

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On 22 Jul 2020, at 08:10, Carol Weaver <corconx@...> wrote:


Roy Coldrick bought one years ago perhaps he will be able to commment

Carol

On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 07:58, Brent <brentiow.c@...> wrote:
It seems such a nightmare out there with all the different types TomTom, Garmin etc. So just to chuck another spanner into the mix has anybody purchased one of these (Igo is it?) Trucker sat navs advertised on that famous auction web site please?
They start from as little as about £35, at the end of the day we just need to get from a to b with no frills, bells or whistles attached!!!! At that sort of money you could buy 10 for the price of a TomTom or Garmin but do they really work please? Opinions greatly received thanks

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