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Re: [MH-list] cruise control, is it worth it?

Ernest <ernb@...>
 

On 28/10/08 22:12, "Don Madge" <don.madge@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

I also understand that the authorities can tell by checking the tacho to see
if the cruise control is/was in use.
Probably by a smooth speed trace produced by ball hair throttle adjustments.

No tacho so home and dry. :-))


Re: [MH-list] cruise control, is it worth it?

Don Madge <don.madge@...>
 

On Tues 28 October 2008 18:55 Ernie wrote

I take it that the cops ask, "Was cruise control engaged?" And the honest
driver responds, "It's a fair cop, guv. Where do I pay the money?"

Heck as like! :-)) How else would they know?
================================================================

Hi Ernie,

I understand the ban was put in place a few years ago to try and stop some
of the multiple truck pile ups . It appears some drivers were falling asleep
at the wheel and running off the motorways at full throttle.

I also understand that the authorities can tell by checking the tacho to see
if the cruise control is/was in use.

Maybe Keith can tell us whether VOSA can tell by checking the tacho if a
vehicle is using a cruise control or not.

Don


Re: [MH-list] Greece

Ernest <ernb@...>
 

On 28/10/08 21:04, "kaitheted" <kaitheted@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

We're thinking about Greece for Xmas, around Thessloniki and that
area - has anyone been around there in winter?
See here for average weather conditions: -

http://tinyurl.com/56atdu

HTH
--
ErnB
Bristol


Greece

kaitheted <kaitheted@...>
 

Hi everyone,

We're thinking about Greece for Xmas, around Thessloniki and that
area - has anyone been around there in winter?

Kaithe


Re: generators

kaitheted <kaitheted@...>
 

Hi Ernie,

Thanks for your suggestions. I will ruminate on all this for a bit,
and meanwhile set my husband onto following the links to these magin
Efoy cell thingies.

Kaithe



--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.co.uk, Ernest <ernb@...> wrote:

On 24/10/08 21:09, "kaitheted" <kaitheted@...> wrote:

We're in Bulgaria now and finding it difficult to get hook ups.
Has anyone got
any knowledge, opinions, or informayion about the viability of a
650 watt
generator for battery top-up?
Any port in a storm, as they say. The perennial problems with
generators
are, without doubt, noise and security. Even if you have no
neighbours to
complain, the noise is disturbing for yourselves. If it's a
temporary need,
then you will put up with it. if you are full-timing then I would
suggest
three solutions.

Fit a bulk gas tank and get one of the relatively quiet gennies
converted to
run on propane and build it into the gas locker. Secure and ready
to use.

Install an Efoy fuel cell. See: - http://tinyurl.com/383ejo

Or fit a Self Energy EG-20 12V Generator. See: - http://
tinyurl.com/6ew2up

HTH
--
ErnB
Bristol


Re: [MH-list] Re Hymer Headlight

John Young
 

Kieth, with regards toheadlights, european / UK.
I am given to understand that there are two types, Asymetrical (UK) and Symetrical (EU).
From this I would suggest that the UK ones are set to the left on dip whilst the EU ones look straight ahead.
Do you know anything about this or am I just guessing.
Johnny from Donny

John Young

--- On Tue, 28/10/08, tasman2405@aol.com <tasman2405@aol.com> wrote:

From: tasman2405@aol.com <tasman2405@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [MH-list] Re Hymer Headlight
To: motorhome-list@yahoogroups.co.uk
Date: Tuesday, 28 October, 2008, 6:04 PM







In a message dated 28/10/2008 09:29:15 GMT Standard Time, len.vee@virgin. net
writes:

Is this the easiest method of chaning over to lights dipping to the left for
a left hand drive Hymer?

'Easiest way is to remove the road wheel on that side (make sure you use an
axle stand for safety), take out the inner wing liner (lots of screws), you
can then get straight at the headlamp / bulb holders.'

Regards

Lenvee

++++++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++
Yes it is, you can get at the screws which secure the headlamp in either LH
or RH dip position - if you look from the rear (under the wing) you'll see
two screws and three holes - one of which is elongated. Remove the
non-elongated screw, loosen off the one in the elongated slot - twist the headlamp to the
other end of the slot, insert the screw you removed earlier into the third
screw hole. It should line up with the same hole in the surround from which it
was originally removed.

The same advice regarding cutting a square out of the liner applies - you
can then cthe bulb or re-align the dip as and when required. (Secure the flap
of plastic with a hinge and cover the cut edges with gaffer tape to prevent
water/muck ingress - do make sure you clean all the dirt off the plastic
otherwise the gaffer tape will not stick properly)

HTH

Keith

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Re: [MH-list] cruise control, is it worth it?

John Young
 

Hi Bertie,
Had Cruise Control fitted earlier this year. Have found it to be very useful but does take a little getting used to sometimes. As most people have commented, Ideal for longer runs, not much use in traffic.
I had the ZT35M fitted by Dave Newell. It has 2 pre-set settings but I haven't tried using these yet. As Ernie says they could well be useful. Will get round to learning how to set them one day. Dave did set them as part of the installation but I can't remember what he set them at and so have not tried them.
I think that if it is worth it or not depends on what you intend to do. If long runs, go for it. If only tootling about, spend the money on beer or some such.LOL.
Hope to see you about soon.
P.S. Dave did a good job so would recommend. Others may have different opinions.

Johnny from Donny
John Young

--- On Tue, 28/10/08, theberties <theberties@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: theberties <theberties@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [MH-list] cruise control, is it worth it?
To: motorhome-list@yahoogroups.co.uk
Date: Tuesday, 28 October, 2008, 3:35 PM






I am considering having cruise control fitted, £350ish, is it money
well spent or purely a luxury I can do without

bertie


















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Re: [MH-list] cruise control, is it worth it?

Ernest <ernb@...>
 

On 28/10/08 18:15, "Peter S" <pstallwood@btinternet.com> wrote:

The quickest way to switch cruise off is to touch the brake pedal but this
has the disadvantage of illuminating the brake lights that may give the
wrong impression to a driver behind.
When my wife follows in the car, that tiny flash of the brake lights lets
her know we are approaching a hazard of some sort. She knows what it means,
of course, and finds it comforting.
--
ErnB
Bristol


Re: [MH-list] cruise control, is it worth it?

Ernest <ernb@...>
 

On 28/10/08 18:04, "Peter S" <pstallwood@btinternet.com> wrote:

If caught, drivers face a 50 [euro] on-the-spot fine.
I take it that the cops ask, "Was cruise control engaged?" And the honest
driver responds, "It's a fair cop, guv. Where do I pay the money?"

Heck as like! :-)) How else would they know?

I remember driving in the endless contra-flows on the A4 to and from
Luxembourg on cruise. No problems. Everyone keeping a nice steady pace. I
bet they were all on cruise as well. Much better than the MkI boot.
--
ErnB
Bristol


Re: [MH-list] cruise control, is it worth it?

derek_sims@...
 

----- Original Message -----

I am considering having cruise control fitted, 350ish, is it money
well spent or purely a luxury I can do without

bertie



Hi Bertie

I'll add my weight to the "Yes" vote. Had it on the car for ten years and motorhome for four. Useful not just for hassle-free cruising on motorways and rural main roads but for keeping at the speed limit in those long stretches of 40 and 50mph limits which so many of our suburban roads seem to have now. Wouldn't be without it.

Derek


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Re: cruise control, is it worth it?

Mervyn Pickard
 

Hi Bertie
I have had cruise fitted to several cars over the years and it would
be be right near the top of my prefered options if I was ever in the
lucky position to be buying a new car.

I found I used it all the time. In recent times I have found it
invaluable in 30 limits to keep the speed down and so avoid the speed
cameras.

They take a bit of getting used to, but once mastered, they can
safely be used in most situations.

If you do have one fitted make sure it's one that sets to your speed
and not just a throttle setting. (these are only the cheaper option.

On the other hand I know people who have cruise fitted to their cars
and never use it.

Over to you. You decide!!

Best regards,

Mervyn


Re: cruise control, is it worth it?

jtwebb1
 

I first had a cruise control in a Maxi in the 70's and have used them
ever since. The trigger to getting one was rheumatoid arthritis which
is now not too bad. Many cars come with them as standard of course but
I had one on the previous motorvan and have one on the present
Carthago. I used them when towing a caravan and it sometimes stays
untouched for some hours. Simply would not be without one. They do not
work much below 30mph to avoid problems with pressing the button in an
automatic at idle etc. I do use the up and down buttons to keep
distance on motoways etc.

J T webb


--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.co.uk, "theberties" <theberties@...>
wrote:

I am considering having cruise control fitted, £350ish, is it money
well spent or purely a luxury I can do without

bertie


Re: [MH-list] cruise control, is it worth it?

Ernest <ernb@...>
 

On 28/10/08 17:52, "B WEBB" <woodlake21rry@btinternet.com> wrote:

How does the acceleration work from say traffic lights if you set the
control to 28-30? How about if the traffic is crawling do you set it to
lower speeds?
I do not know how your planned device works. Cruise cannot be engaged on my
Sprinter below 20mph. Getting away is still a "manual" procedure aided by
SprintShift in my case. When I hit 20, I lift the paddle stick and cruise
gets it all back to the previously speed setting, or if moving into a new
limit, I accelerate to the new speed and simply engage cruise at the current
speed. When it settles down I adjust as required.

What I would really like is a means of pre-programming cruise with 3 or 4
speed settings and then selecting the one I want at any time.

HTH
--
ErnB
Bristol


Re: [MH-list] cruise control, is it worth it?

Tom Salmon
 

Here in the States cruise is almost a standard feature. Have it on my
Mercedes based motorhome and have had it on my other cars for over 25
years. Wouldn't leave without.

Superb for long distance motorways.

Useless in cities and heavy traffic. On heavy traffic roads I set it
at the speed limit and let everyone else pass on. Usually I have a
clear lane ahead of me and do not have to break often.

Dangerous on slick and or rainy roads.

Paid $150 for an aftermarket one installed. It was a couple of MPH
off. Factory installed seem to be more accurate speed wise.

Tom in Vero Beach


Re: [MH-list] cruise control, is it worth it?

Peter S
 

The switch should have a resume button which will take you up to your
previously set speed. However the cruise on my Fiat switches off (but
maintains the speed setting) when the clutch is depressed so accelerating
and changing gear would just switch it off. Also the cruise can only be set
over a certain speed - I can't remember what it is though. I feel that
cruise only comes into its own when there is a likelihood of being able to
keep to a set speed for a reasonable distance and not in traffic where speed
is constantly changing - others differ as below.

The quickest way to switch cruise off is to touch the brake pedal but this
has the disadvantage of illuminating the brake lights that may give the
wrong impression to a driver behind.

Peter S


Due to a serious fall I'm becoming very arthritic in the spine, hips
and knees so have been considering cruise control but was unsure about
urban driving which is where the disadvantage is at its worst. How
does the acceleration work from say traffic lights if you set the
control to 28-30? How about if the traffic is crawling do you set it
to lower speeds? I can see how knocking it out would work quite
quickly. Or do you accelerate to the desired speed whatever that may
be and then set it.

On 28/10/08 16:33, "Don Madge" <don.madge@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

With a bit of observation, anticipation and forward planning it
can be done.

I use cruise all the time, and that includes town driving. I can see
where
some would think that one is not properly in control, although how,
exactly,
is harder to pin down. I set cruise to 28 to 30 mph, and just go.
Touching
the brake or flicking the paddle stick down knocks it off
immediately, and
adjusting the speed to suit traffic flow takes no more thought or
effort
than using one's foot. It is simply another way to drive.

I realise some folk get their kicks out of pedalling their way about
town
like organists with St Vitus dance, but I am past all that. Like I
said, the
little black box works like a dream.
--
ErnB
Bristol






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Re: [MH-list] cruise control, is it worth it?

Peter S
 


-----------------------------------------------------
and had to adjust the speed a couple of times using the
plus/minus buttons. I was travelling about 62/63 MPH.
-----------------------------------------------------

I have cruise control on a car and most of my friends, colleagues and even
family are astonished when I mention +/- control!!
I find that I can regulate speed with foot in heavier traffic better than
using the +/- so tend to use it only on less congested roads. I would have
thought that a slight lifting of the right foot was quicker and finer than
using the switch but obviously you find different. I agree re ABS as I have
been taught cadence breaking but it is nowhere as near as effective as the
electronic version. However, I used cruise for many many miles without
having to adjust anything across Belgium and Germany on our recent trip.

In fact there is a ban in Belgium at certain times:-

"The AA Motoring Trust has issued a warning to business drivers that
Belgian road authorities have introduced a new road sign banning the use of
cruise control on congested motorways. The easily identifiable signs have
appeared on motorways leading to Antwerp and the Ghent-Brussels highway
during roadworks. If caught, drivers face a 50 [euro] on-the-spot fine."

I was aware of this as I had seen signs on previous trips but saw none this
time. Mind you near Brussels on Saturday morning they hadn't finished the
overnight roadworks so cruise was no use in the hour long jam. An automatic
would have been preferable.

Peter S


Also the idea that "I can do that" is fallacious - as with ABS brakes,
solar
panel tracking, etc., the constant, fine and sometimes ultra quick
adjustments made by the machine are extraordinary when compared with
~actual~ human behaviour.


Best regards


Re: [MH-list] cruise control, is it worth it?

B WEBB <woodlake21rry@...>
 

Due to a serious fall I'm becoming very arthritic in the spine, hips
and knees so have been considering cruise control but was unsure about
urban driving which is where the disadvantage is at its worst. How
does the acceleration work from say traffic lights if you set the
control to 28-30? How about if the traffic is crawling do you set it
to lower speeds? I can see how knocking it out would work quite
quickly. Or do you accelerate to the desired speed whatever that may
be and then set it.

Cheers

Barry Webb

On 28 Oct 2008, at 17:33, Ernest wrote:

On 28/10/08 16:33, "Don Madge" <don.madge@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

With a bit of observation, anticipation and forward planning it
can be done.

I use cruise all the time, and that includes town driving. I can see
where
some would think that one is not properly in control, although how,
exactly,
is harder to pin down. I set cruise to 28 to 30 mph, and just go.
Touching
the brake or flicking the paddle stick down knocks it off
immediately, and
adjusting the speed to suit traffic flow takes no more thought or
effort
than using one's foot. It is simply another way to drive.

I realise some folk get their kicks out of pedalling their way about
town
like organists with St Vitus dance, but I am past all that. Like I
said, the
little black box works like a dream.
--
ErnB
Bristol


Re: [MH-list] cruise control, is it worth it?

Neill King \(MH-List\)
 

-----Original Message-----
From: motorhome-list@yahoogroups.co.uk
[mailto:motorhome-list@yahoogroups.co.uk] On Behalf Of Don Madge


-----------------------------------------------------
and had to adjust the speed a couple of times using the
plus/minus buttons. I was travelling about 62/63 MPH.
-----------------------------------------------------

I have cruise control on a car and most of my friends, colleagues and even
family are astonished when I mention +/- control!!

Also the idea that "I can do that" is fallacious - as with ABS brakes, solar
panel tracking, etc., the constant, fine and sometimes ultra quick
adjustments made by the machine are extraordinary when compared with
~actual~ human behaviour.


Best regards

Neill
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Re: [MH-list] cruise control, is it worth it?

Ernest <ernb@...>
 

On 28/10/08 16:33, "Don Madge" <don.madge@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

With a bit of observation, anticipation and forward planning it can be done.
I use cruise all the time, and that includes town driving. I can see where
some would think that one is not properly in control, although how, exactly,
is harder to pin down. I set cruise to 28 to 30 mph, and just go. Touching
the brake or flicking the paddle stick down knocks it off immediately, and
adjusting the speed to suit traffic flow takes no more thought or effort
than using one's foot. It is simply another way to drive.

I realise some folk get their kicks out of pedalling their way about town
like organists with St Vitus dance, but I am past all that. Like I said, the
little black box works like a dream.
--
ErnB
Bristol


Re: [MH-list] O/T Anti-virus

B WEBB <woodlake21rry@...>
 

At the time I changed the daily update wasn't available and as at that
time I was very busy on the internet (about 150-200 emails a day as
well as sending & receiving lots of attachments so I felt safer but it
came with a firewall and cost £31 for a three year licence so even
paid for not too bad.

On 28 Oct 2008, at 16:37, Don Madge wrote:

On Tues 28 October 2008 16:15 Barry wrote

I used AVG for years before upgrading to paid version daily updates
---------------------------------------------------
Hi Barry,

I have the latest free version of AVG and it automatically updates
every
morning. I also run the free version of Zone Alarm.

Don


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