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Re: Windows Vista

Reg <lists.reg@...>
 

I've just returned from a weekend rally. It's a radio ham club that
camps, although there were no tents this w/e!

All the blokes are hams, also about half the wives/partners etc are also
hams. Plus a few of the kids.

So quite a lot of computer experience available. As is always the case,
Windows was on the list of topics discussed as about half the field was
on broadband!

The general feeling was that M$ had shot itself in the foot with Vista
on two counts. M$ would also appear to support this.

Firstly: when a new version of Windows is almost available, many folk
say that they wont buy the new version. When it arrives the majority go
out and buy it.

But with Vista this has not happened. Many even 'upgrade' back to XP.
This happens with business and home users.

Secondly: new smaller PCs similar to the Psion netBook, now a decade
old, are appearing. These small 'netbooks' will not run Vista. It's
Linux or at the top end Windows XP.

Even Dell now have a netbook with a single SSD, just like the old Psion
netBook! (But the netBook had slots for a second and third internal
SSD.)

Last night I watched the WWI programmes on Ch 4 live. Normally I record
programmes with adverts to HD or DVD and fast wind through the adverts.

Interestingly, the M$ adverts for Windows did not mention the current
version by name as in the past. So it would suggest that M$ agree with
the expert users.

Reg.


Re: [MH-list] Spam--the last straw

Pet Human <pethuman@...>
 

alan c wrote:
An easy first action of a defensive nature is to use a web browser
other than microsoft Internet explorer (I suggest firefox) and also to
avoid microsoft outlook express (I suggest thunderbird).

With firefox you get a better and independent approach to security,
and it is easily possible to install an advert blocker, quite
impossible with Internet Explorer.
Alan's advice is excellent. Firefox is much more secure than Internet
Explorer, as well as being better to use. Thunderbird is similar to
Outlook Express, but has a brilliant spam-filtering system which is very
effective and easy to use: it has own rules for checking spam, but you
then teach it what you want it to do by correcting its mistakes (marking
mail as "junk" if it was missed, or as "not junk" if it was inaccurately
tagged as spam).

Continuing to use low-security software such as Internet Explorer and
Outlook Express when the free alternatives are better is pure masochism.

Get Thunderbird and Firefox from http://www.mozilla.com


Re: [MH-list] Spam--the last straw

derek_sims@...
 

I don't get any spam in my in box, it's stopped by Tiscali and I log in one
a week and delete it.

Don
Hi Don

We are with Tiscali but they don't filter any spam. Are you using their web-based mail or Outlook Express?

Thanks

Derek


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Re: [MH-list] Spam--the last straw

Peter S
 


Re: Aires/overnights in Spain

king_colin_barlow <colin.barlow@...>
 

We have also found a new site for spain,,this is similar to France
Passion,, http://www.espana-discovery.com/
Colin & Angie,(Gib)


--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.co.uk, Brian Marsden
<brianmarsden@...> wrote:

Hi all
Found a new site(to me) showing locations of Spanish Areas on Google.
May be of interest to some. http://tinyurl.com/6plp33
Regards
BrianM


Re: [MH-list] Spam--the last straw

Peter S
 

That would be my opinion as well, Ernie but then I am not a lawyer (barrack room maybe though!). In a similar case I would have followed the email up with a recorded delivery letter.

But I would still think it negligent to just delete all e-mails in the spam folder without looking. We get some of orders here by e mail and no matter what we do some still end up in the spam box.

Peter S

A seriously flawed judgement, IMHO. The judge is not being realistic in
accepting proof of posting/sending as proof of receipt. The letter post is
notoriously unreliable but its failures are nothing compared to those
associated with emails.

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Re: [MH-list] Spam--the last straw

Don Madge <don.madge@...>
 

Help needed. Come on you computer buffs.
I regularly get spam of all sorts and kind of pretend I don't get
it!! That way I can carry on receiving emails. Well just now I got
the ultimate____a spam email from ME.

Hi Brian,

I don't get any spam in my in box, it's stopped by Tiscali and I log in one
a week and delete it.

Don


Re: [MH-list] Spam--the last straw

derek_sims@...
 

Help needed. Come on you computer buffs.
I regularly get spam of all sorts and kind of pretend I don't get
it!! That way I can carry on receiving emails. Well just now I got
the ultimate____a spam email from ME.

Hi Brian

We too have started to suffer the same problem over the last couple of days. We are using the free version of Spamfighter and I was unwilling at first to block our own email addresses. I have since done that but the spams are still coming through. At the moment I'm unwilling to spend the time setting up the arrangements our experts recommend and, to be honest, we haven't had too much trouble in the past using the standard Microsoft packages, just deleting the spam from the Spamfighter folder each day.

Having read Tim's posting, I'm not sure whether Spamfighter operates on the sender's address I can see in the header, or the one on the "envelope". If it's the latter then presumably by blocking those mails I'm blocking the real sender and eventually they should all find their way into the spam folder. I will try that for a day or two and if it's obviously not working I may start the long upward journey.

Best of luck

Derek


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Re: [MH-list] Spam--the last straw

Ernest <ernb@...>
 

On 11/11/08 08:32, "PETER STALLWOOD" <pstallwood@btinternet.com> wrote:

The contract did not stipulate how notice was to be given and the e mail
giving the notice went to the other party's spam box and got deleted. It was
held that notice had been properly given and the recipient of the e mail lost
the case.
A seriously flawed judgement, IMHO. The judge is not being realistic in
accepting proof of posting/sending as proof of receipt. The letter post is
notoriously unreliable but its failures are nothing compared to those
associated with emails.

We recently sent a birthday card to an address 4 miles away. It took 11
days. How long it would have taken with a 2nd class stamp is open to
conjecture. Then, I received a telephone call yesterday to ask why I had not
replied to an email sent to me last Wednesday. It has still not arrived. A
bit of an enigma considering the the avalanche of duplicated posts I
received last Friday.

Surely, recorded delivery should be used for important snail mail and
although I have no idea how to do so, I am sure that emails and SMS can be
flagged or something to ask the recipient to acknowledge receipt.
--
ErnB
Bristol


Re: [MH-list] Spam--the last straw

Peter S
 

You will never be able to filter out all spam but just make it easier to manage. I have a filter run by my ISP which is good and one on my PC which is also pretty effective but some spam gets through and some e mails I want get to the spam box.

Whatever you do you must check your spam box as it could contain important e mails. A couple of years ago there was a court case where the outcome depended on how the notice required on a contract was given. The contract did not stipulate how notice was to be given and the e mail giving the notice went to the other party's spam box and got deleted. It was held that notice had been properly given and the recipient of the e mail lost the case.

Peter S

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Re: [MH-list] Spam--the last straw

Tim Atkinson
 

This is actually extremely common - there is nothing you or anyone else can do regarding the origination of these mails - but relax it's very unlikely your mailbox has been actually hijacked - it's just your email address has been "spoofed" i.e. forged.

Warning- boring technical bit - Technically emails are composed of two parts - an "envelope" and a message "body". It's the envelope that actually controls where the email is delivered to - this envelope is lost when the email arrives at your ISP's mail server and so the message body is all you ever actually see - but the content of the mail headers in the message body doesn't actually have anything to do with delivering the email to you and can have almost completely arbitary content (i.e. faked or forged contents).

The best technique for dealing with spam long term in my opinion is "Whitelisting" - rather than eliminating the junk - concentrate on identifying the good stuff - usually a much easier job (Many have the text MH-List in the subject for example).

All email software has a capabiliity of managing your email into a series of folders rather like the folders or subdirectories you keep your files in on the hard disk and secondly all email software has the capability of "filtering" i.e. setting up a "rule" that moves email from your new mail folder into another one ( or series of folders) based on some text in the email address or subject line.

Whitelisting involves creating a series of rules to move known good email into another folder so while your original inbox gets full of spam - emails from knnown good senders gets moved to another folder for immediate consideration - all you have to do is scan your spam filled inbox occaisionally just in case someone new has sent you a mail - if they have create a new rule (usually by right clicking on it) to move their mails to the "good" folder. This is a bit of effort to set up but after a couple of weeks you will find checking your email is very fast.

Hope this makes sense and helps

Cheers

--Tim

Brian Marsden wrote:


Help needed. Come on you computer buffs.
I regularly get spam of all sorts and kind of pretend I don't get
it!! That way I can carry on receiving emails. Well just now I got
the ultimate____a spam email from ME.

Quote below
<<If you are unable to see the message below, click here to view
[links to lbf.mpnuhlp.cn/].
<<[Image ignored] [links to suhiabi.mpnuhlp.cn/]
<<You have received this message because you opted in to receives
Colorgraphic-Com pecial
<<offers via email. Login to your member account to edit your email
subscription [links to <<bxvqx.mpnuhlp.cn/] .
<<Click here to unsubscribe [links to
<<pcp.mpnuhlp.cn/removeme.pl?to_remove=brianmarsden@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:pcp.mpnuhlp.cn%2Fremoveme.pl%3Fto_remove%3Dbrianmarsden%40blueyonder.co.uk>].

<<PLEASE DO NOT REPLY - This is being sent from an unattended mailbox.

<<Copyright ? 2008 Colorgraphic-Com, Inc. All rights reserved.
<<1500 Capital Blvd, Raleigh, NC 27603
End quote

Now I haven't got a clue who these jokers are but enough is enough.
How do I put a stop to it?How do I react?
Is it any good complaining to Yahoo, my ISP or whoever.
I need some advice.
Regards
BrianM (NOT the spam man)


Re: [MH-list] Spam--the last straw

Alan Cocks
 

Although spam is aimed at all operating systems, windows, mac and linux and others, it is worth being aware that the proprietary systems - I know about windows particularly - have a strong interest in getting advertising through to you. their existence obviously depends on making money somehow (anyhow?). You are also visible to the advertisers. Various matters of software security are also relevant. An easy first action of a defensive nature is to use a web browser other than microsoft Internet explorer (I suggest firefox) and also to avoid microsoft outlook express (I suggest thunderbird).

With firefox you get a better and independent approach to security, and it is easily possible to install an advert blocker, quite impossible with Internet Explorer.

Hopefully you will already be using a modem/router and not just a modem, and using a software firewall and anti malware and anti virus software too, all kept up to date.

With good protection you will be less vulnerable. The human scams are coming more into fashion - good or believable things which make you want to (innocently) log onto something or look at particular sites. Software will not easily stop you getting conned, and some scams are good. So being a strong sceptic helps. And good information helps too.

I kept my windows PC well protected, but I did see a clear reduction of spam when I stopped using windows. I do not know the details, or exactly why, I thought I was doing everything, and I was a semi expert, however there it is.

I still do get spam, but I no longer worry much about it because my non windows PC does not get malware nearly so easily as windows does. Some say none at all. I certainly have not had any viruses or malware or anything installed without me knowing.

Remember - the industry *wants* to make money, and adverts, weak software and 'anything if it is easy for the customer' will all tend to make the end user vulnerable.

It is deliberately difficult to give up what the industry wants you to do......
It took me as long to give up windows as it did to give up smoking and it was about as much effort!

alan cocks

Sandy wrote:

Brian,
I too have had these e-mails from "myself" on both of my addresses. I thought someone had hi-jacked my names and I have warned all my contacts not to accept e-mail from me until it gets sorted. No consolation to you but I'm glad it is not only me to get this spam. I delete the mail immediately, without opening, and they are now filtered by my spam filter.
I don't know what the answer is yet, and if you find out how to stop them I would appreciate knowing.
Thanks............Sandy
--- On Mon, 10/11/08, Brian Marsden <brianmarsden@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
From: Brian Marsden <brianmarsden@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: [MH-list] Spam--the last straw
To: motorhome-list@yahoogroups.co.uk
Date: Monday, 10 November, 2008, 7:33 PM
Help needed. Come on you computer buffs.
I regularly get spam of all sorts and kind of pretend I don't get it!! That way I can carry on receiving emails. Well just now I got the ultimate____ a spam email from ME.
Quote below
<<If you are unable to see the message below, click here to view [links to lbf.mpnuhlp. cn/].
<<[Image ignored] [links to suhiabi.mpnuhlp. cn/]
<<You have received this message because you opted in to receives Colorgraphic- Com pecial
<<offers via email. Login to your member account to edit your email subscription [links to <<bxvqx.mpnuhlp. cn/] .
<<Click here to unsubscribe [links to <<pcp.mpnuhlp. cn/removeme. pl?to_remove= brianmarsden@ blueyonder. co.uk].
<<PLEASE DO NOT REPLY - This is being sent from an unattended mailbox.
<<Copyright ? 2008 Colorgraphic- Com, Inc. All rights reserved.
<<1500 Capital Blvd, Raleigh, NC 27603
End quote
Now I haven't got a clue who these jokers are but enough is enough. How do I put a stop to it?How do I react?
Is it any good complaining to Yahoo, my ISP or whoever.
I need some advice.
Regards
BrianM (NOT the spam man)
--
alan cocks
Ubuntu user
Linux user #360648


Re: [MH-list] Spam--the last straw

Carol Weaver
 

Brian, I have had those, but I susbscribed to googlemail and they must have
about the best spam filter going....join them it is definitely worth it, you
can set it up to download to your email programme too if you prefer, and it
only sends good email, and you can check the spam box when you want, I had
over 2,000 in when I got back after two months, rarely do my actual wanted
emails end up in there, perhaps one in six months...

Carol

2008/11/10 Brian Marsden <brianmarsden@blueyonder.co.uk>

Help needed. Come on you computer buffs.
I regularly get spam of all sorts and kind of pretend I don't get
it!! That way I can carry on receiving emails. Well just now I got
the ultimate____a spam email from ME.


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Re: [MH-list] Spam--the last straw

Sandy <sandyketton@...>
 

Brian,
I too have had these e-mails from "myself" on both of my addresses. I thought someone had hi-jacked my names and I have warned all my contacts not to accept e-mail from me until it gets sorted.
No consolation to you but I'm glad it is not only me to get this spam.
I delete the mail immediately, without opening, and they are now filtered by my spam filter.
I don't know what the answer is yet, and if you find out how to stop them I would appreciate knowing.
Thanks............Sandy

--- On Mon, 10/11/08, Brian Marsden <brianmarsden@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

From: Brian Marsden <brianmarsden@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: [MH-list] Spam--the last straw
To: motorhome-list@yahoogroups.co.uk
Date: Monday, 10 November, 2008, 7:33 PM






Help needed. Come on you computer buffs.
I regularly get spam of all sorts and kind of pretend I don't get
it!! That way I can carry on receiving emails. Well just now I got
the ultimate____ a spam email from ME.

Quote below
<<If you are unable to see the message below, click here to view
[links to lbf.mpnuhlp. cn/].
<<[Image ignored] [links to suhiabi.mpnuhlp. cn/]
<<You have received this message because you opted in to receives
Colorgraphic- Com pecial
<<offers via email. Login to your member account to edit your email
subscription [links to <<bxvqx.mpnuhlp. cn/] .
<<Click here to unsubscribe [links to
<<pcp.mpnuhlp. cn/removeme. pl?to_remove= brianmarsden@ blueyonder. co.uk].

<<PLEASE DO NOT REPLY - This is being sent from an unattended mailbox.

<<Copyright ? 2008 Colorgraphic- Com, Inc. All rights reserved.
<<1500 Capital Blvd, Raleigh, NC 27603
End quote

Now I haven't got a clue who these jokers are but enough is enough.
How do I put a stop to it?How do I react?
Is it any good complaining to Yahoo, my ISP or whoever.
I need some advice.
Regards
BrianM (NOT the spam man)


Spam--the last straw

Brian Marsden
 

Help needed. Come on you computer buffs.
I regularly get spam of all sorts and kind of pretend I don't get it!! That way I can carry on receiving emails. Well just now I got the ultimate____a spam email from ME.

Quote below
<<If you are unable to see the message below, click here to view [links to lbf.mpnuhlp.cn/].
<<[Image ignored] [links to suhiabi.mpnuhlp.cn/]
<<You have received this message because you opted in to receives Colorgraphic-Com pecial
<<offers via email. Login to your member account to edit your email subscription [links to <<bxvqx.mpnuhlp.cn/] .
<<Click here to unsubscribe [links to <<pcp.mpnuhlp.cn/removeme.pl?to_remove=brianmarsden@blueyonder.co.uk].

<<PLEASE DO NOT REPLY - This is being sent from an unattended mailbox.

<<Copyright ? 2008 Colorgraphic-Com, Inc. All rights reserved.
<<1500 Capital Blvd, Raleigh, NC 27603
End quote

Now I haven't got a clue who these jokers are but enough is enough. How do I put a stop to it?How do I react?
Is it any good complaining to Yahoo, my ISP or whoever.
I need some advice.
Regards
BrianM (NOT the spam man)


Re: [MH-list] Mud and slush tyres?

B WEBB <woodlake21rry@...>
 

The main reported problem with ABS appears to be the driver rather
than the system.
This is quite a good article on the topic: http://www.autoweb.co.uk/articles/feature.asp?feat=536
Cheers

Barry

On 10 Nov 2008, at 15:14, John Goodman wrote:

Braking distances in snow are shorter in cars without ABS,
why some manufacturers (Audi) have an ABS off switch!


Re: [MH-list] Mud and slush tyres?

John Goodman
 

Peter Stallwood wrote:
Is this still the case? As far as I am aware it would now be illegal to be able to
switch it off. All new cars have to have ABS by law.

Peter S
No idea what the current situation is. My brother had an Audi (early 90's) and
it was in the handbook under winter driving.

I would imagine it had a speed safety override feature, whereas the ABS was
still active but at a higher threshold. Above say 10mph.

--
John Goodman


Re: [MH-list] Mud and slush tyres?

Peter S
 

Is this still the case? As far as I am aware it would now be illegal to be able to switch it off. All new cars have to have ABS by law.

Peter S



Braking distances in snow are shorter in cars without ABS,
why some manufacturers (Audi) have an ABS off switch!


--


Re: [SPAM?][MH-list] Mud and slush tyres?

John Goodman
 

Neill King (MH-List) wrote:
There are many fans of Conti Vanco tyres for motorhomes and the M+S version
are called Vanco Winter.
Conti also do excellent 4x4 all terrain tyres suitable for M/H's too. Called the Conti
Cross Contact. Good wet braking and a 80/20% balance on/off road. Probably
need the ones with the LT prefix (e.g. LT 245 X 70 X 16") which are 10 ply for heavy
M/H's or possibly the ones with the "C" suffix for most others.

The Conti website is much improved and now easy to compare their tyres different
abilities.
--
John Goodman


Re: [MH-list] Mud and slush tyres?

John Goodman
 

Dazcaz wrote:
'm thinking about fitting mud and slush tyres to the front.
Do you have any recommendations on which brand to fit etc.
Are they any real use?
What are they like on tarmac.
How do they wear?
etc etc etc....
Go for them! Much better grip on our mud covered Welsh country lanes.

You may want to try lowering the front tyre pressures before entering the farm,
guessing around 24 p.s.i or until they look noticeably flat without bottoming out.

It is a popular mis conception that lowering the tyre pressure just makes the tyre
sidewall bulge out and maybe gives the tyre a slightly wider footprint and hence a
minuscule amount off extra traction. In effect the low pressure deforms the tyre so
that it is very flat on the bottom and it is the LENGTH of the footprint increased by
quite a significant amount that creates the extra 'grip' Try it!

Good snow tyres (cars) are designed to clog up. Snow to snow has better friction
than rubber to snow. Braking distances in snow are shorter in cars without ABS,
why some manufacturers (Audi) have an ABS off switch!


--
John Goodman

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