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Re: Break-Ins in France - was (unknown)

Jon Barton <jongerry@...>
 

Yes the gas myth is a nice little earner for the makers of so called gas alarms. How do you ever test their efficiency? How many and which narcotic gases are they effective against? One suspects the C2H5OH has been applied by the motorhomer rather than any outside agency.


Re: [MH-list] Rapido A-Class - Spare Wheel Bracket

Carol Weaver
 

The trouble is Ernie, that it is not possible to fit a bracket to the 7090 -
Rapido didn't have the extension on the rear, or if they did, it is hidden
by the waste tank and therefore the one place it should go is a non
starter. I have spoken to Alko and asked if it was possible to fit it
between the wheels, but making any holes would invalidate the warranty.

The basic Fiat chassis does allow for the underslung bracket, and some have
the winding fitment....or perhaps could have had it if it had been ordered
with the chassis by the manufacturers...

We didn't even realise it didn't have a spare, it was either on here or MHF
that alerted us to it, and I emailed the dealers in Germany and asked for
confirmation....and was informed no spare...fit and go kit ....so I emailed
back and said I needed one anyway, so pls provide it. I did get an email
back saying they would do it for a good price, in the end I wasn't charged
for it....

I just wish I could find out if I can fit a spare to the rear of the
motorhome - I do realise that it would need reinforcing internally in the
1/2 garage, and you can buy some nice stainless steel covers for it....but
can it be done? And which bracket would one need, we have 16in wheel's



Carol

2009/1/5 Ernest <ernb@...>

On 5/1/09 22:04, "Carol Weaver" <corconx@...> wrote:

Mind you I reckon you could hole the record on here for them....
Like someone said, they are expensive pieces of kit and sales were falling
long before the world got recession. Surely, it is a buyers' market. Would
they lose a sale for the pissant cost of a spare wheel and a bloody bracket
to hang it on?

Reports have the 2nd hand car market doing well, and I have seen nothing
yet
to suggest that the prices of pre-loved MHs are exactly collapsing. Does
anyone have any ideas on the way things will go?
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Re: [MH-list] Rapido A-Class - Spare Wheel Bracket

Ernest <ernb@...>
 

On 5/1/09 22:04, "Carol Weaver" <corconx@...> wrote:

Mind you I reckon you could hole the record on here for them....
Like someone said, they are expensive pieces of kit and sales were falling
long before the world got recession. Surely, it is a buyers' market. Would
they lose a sale for the pissant cost of a spare wheel and a bloody bracket
to hang it on?

Reports have the 2nd hand car market doing well, and I have seen nothing yet
to suggest that the prices of pre-loved MHs are exactly collapsing. Does
anyone have any ideas on the way things will go?
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Re: [MH-list] Re:France in Mid-March

Carol Weaver
 

Ron thanks for that, we have been to Provence - but the west mainly, and we
did do a tour which took us around the Med but we were not impressed with
that, mh parking not being obvious in most places you wanted to stop.

Another area to explore...

Carol

2009/1/5 Ron Sutton <ronvsutton@...>

We love the Vaucluse (N. Provence) east of Orange. Malaucene, Vaison
la Romaine, Mont Ventoux, Beaumes de Venise, Seguret, Carpentras (for
the market), Les Dentelles de Montmirail, Brantes, Les Barroux,
Entrechaux. Many tiny villages stuck on top of lumps of rock sticking
out of the plain. Ideal for moochers and potterers.

Ron Sutton
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Re: [MH-list] Rapido A-Class - Spare Wheel Bracket

Carol Weaver
 

No blowout is repairable with the stuff the provide, I think it is a 6mm or
8mm pinhole....like you Martin, when we have had a problem, it is ALWAYS a
blowout, hence the reason we asked for a spare.....but as you say Rapido are
NOT the only ones, nearly all manufacturers were doing it, Frankia is
another I know of...

Mind you I reckon you could hole the record on here for them....

Carol

2009/1/5 Martin Bennett <martin@...>

In message <d5e.3fca7afa.3693b3d7@...>, Itineris2000@... writes
No Spare Wheel ???? that's pathetic...a puncture on a motorhome
gernerally
means the tyre will be shredded....do Rapido really have to cut
corners to that
They're not alone - Hymer did not supply a spare with their new S class
models - claim to be to increase payload - so just send a foam kit.

I fitted a spare as I've had 33 punctures/blow outs that I can remember.
None have been at a convenient time and most would not have been
repairable with the foam.

Martin
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Re: France in Mid-March

Ron Sutton <ronvsutton@...>
 

We love the Vaucluse (N. Provence) east of Orange. Malaucene, Vaison
la Romaine, Mont Ventoux, Beaumes de Venise, Seguret, Carpentras (for
the market), Les Dentelles de Montmirail, Brantes, Les Barroux,
Entrechaux. Many tiny villages stuck on top of lumps of rock sticking
out of the plain. Ideal for moochers and potterers.

Ron Sutton
ronvsutton@...


Re: [MH-list] Rapido A-Class - Spare Wheel Bracket

Ernest <ernb@...>
 

On 5/1/09 19:30, "Martin Bennett" <martin@...> wrote:

They're not alone - Hymer did not supply a spare with their new S class
models - claim to be to increase payload - so just send a foam kit.
I remember when cars and lorries came complete with a starter handle. And a
proper wooden handled screwdriver. That was later replaced with a piece if
soft grey metal wire. Oh! And don't forget the collapsing bent tin jack.

I do not carry anything more than the spare wheel, jack and wheel wrench.
The rest is payload and costs diesel to transport. I have good breakdown
cover.


Re: [MH-list] Rapido A-Class - Spare Wheel Bracket

Bennett Family
 

In message <d5e.3fca7afa.3693b3d7@...>, Itineris2000@... writes
No Spare Wheel ???? that's pathetic...a puncture on a motorhome
gernerally
means the tyre will be shredded....do Rapido really have to cut
corners to that
They're not alone - Hymer did not supply a spare with their new S class models - claim to be to increase payload - so just send a foam kit.

I fitted a spare as I've had 33 punctures/blow outs that I can remember. None have been at a convenient time and most would not have been repairable with the foam.

Martin
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Re: France in Mid-March

james mayo <contact_jhmayo@...>
 

Calais to Dunkirk £16.00 in June with Mh. Cheap as Chips.
Katie and friends





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POI's

Carol Weaver
 

Archie's website has updated his POI's for Europe, or if you prefer,
Northern EU, France, Spain and several other choices, including ASCI and
Camping Cheques POI's all downloadable for free, and also in various
different formats

http://archiescampings.eu/downloadpage/


Carol

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Re: [MH-list] Rapido A-Class - Spare Wheel Bracket

Peter S
 

A lot of vans on the new Fiat chassis are being supplied without a spare wheel. They give you a foam repair kit instead. I think that this is totally inadequate as ods law says that a puncture will lways happen at the most inconvenient time and the tyre will almost certainly be shredded and a foam repair will not work.

Peter S






If I was paying the sort of money these things cost I would expect a spare.


Re: [MH-list] Rapido A-Class - Spare Wheel Bracket

Mike Shepherd <mikeshepherd@...>
 

My Rapido A Class 986M 2005 has a spare, I've just been out to look. its in a frame under the merc chassis.

If I was paying the sort of money these things cost I would expect a spare.

Are you sure it's not been nicked. Things disappeared off mine when it was with "a main distributer" for work.

Mike

pslautocruising wrote:

I have just bought a new Rapido 9097 and like many other A-Class they do not supply a spare wheel.


Re: [MH-list] Rapido A-Class - Spare Wheel Bracket

Itineris2000@...
 

No Spare Wheel ???? that's pathetic...a puncture on a motorhome gernerally
means the tyre will be shredded....do Rapido really have to cut corners to that
degree and at the high prices they charge.... id be back to the dealer
demanding a free wheel and tyre, (and a carrier) if there isnt anywhere to store
one inside... and not a tube of foam which will probably be totally useless.
Sales of Goods Act covers fitness for use.. well worth reading before you
tackle them.


Re: [MH-list] Rapido A-Class - Spare Wheel Bracket

Carol Weaver
 

Hi we have the 7090F - and ours has a half garage in the rear. We have a
3ltr so hence 16in wheel.... this has been stood upright against the back
little plinth (too flipping tall to stand on it!) and we have bought one of
those rachet straps and have firmly put it in the centre. We did wonder
about the weight on rear wheels, but had it weighed after and still had well
over 200kgs weight left available there with everything on board we carry
normally...so we were well pleased, but we did uprate the chassis to a 4.25
one when we ordered. Realising that the 3ltr and automatic and all those
bits weighed a lot, and we wanted to be safe....

Best of luck....

Carol



2009/1/5 pslautocruising <pslautocruising@...>

I have just bought a new Rapido 9097 and like many other A-Class they
do not supply a spare wheel. I have bought one and now wish to secure
it in the garage section. This has to be done in such away not to
damage the wood interior. Has anyone had this problem and if so how
was it resolved and by what means?


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Re: [MH-list] Re: Break-Ins in France - was (unknown)

Ernest <ernb@...>
 

On 5/1/09 12:04, "rosemary wollaston" <rosemarywollaston@...> wrote:

We have a transit van, professionally converted.  It was bitter cold. 
Obviously sadly lacking on insulation. Probably difficult to correct.

We managed to get a hook up one night so had our heater on, but two other
people turned up and shared a hook up and blew the electricity altogether. 
Luckily a maintenance man arrived in the morning and at least managed to
de-frost the water for us.
A perennial problem with some aires and some camping-carists, unfortunately.

The whole trip was a massive search for water and somewhere to stop, as a lot
of the aires were closed for winter.
A good aires book is essential, but water can be a big problem. Lidl or Aldi
sell very cheap water if all else fails. One pretty reliable source can be
the aires on the autoroutes.

And if things get really desperate, you can always book onto a campsite for
a couple of nights.
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Bristol


Re: [MH-list] Re: Break-Ins in France - was (unknown)

Carol Weaver
 

Rosemary we go to France in May or then again in Sept/Oct to sometimes mid
November - it is a fantastic place to visit - friendly and lovely
countryside, towns and villages to explore. We have camped alone on top of
mountains as well without problems, but also seem to find if you stop for
the night, you will inevitably be joined by other campers, and we have often
been asked if we are stopping the night, as they obviously prefer not to be
alone. My only annoyance with them, is they do invade your space, like
sometimes it can be difficult to open a window as they park to close for
safety I always think....especially when there is plenty of room.

Summer will be VERY busy as France goes on holiday itself then and the aires
will no doubt be harder to get in. We arrive around 4-5pm to get a place.

a Transit professionally converted, could mean anything, so are CI's and
lots of other makes, but if they do not have sufficient insulation in walls,
floors and the roof, you will be cold....

You also really need on board tanks and a heater in your waste tank.

Carol

2009/1/5 rosemary wollaston <rosemarywollaston@...>

We have a transit van, professionally converted. It was bitter cold. We
managed to get a hook up one night so had our heater on, but two other
people turned up and shared a hook up and blew the electricity altogether.
Luckily a maintenance man arrived in the morning and at least managed to
de-frost the water for us.

The whole trip was a massive search for water and somewhere to stop, as a
lot of the aires were closed for winter.

Shan't do it again in a hurry, certainly not in the cold months. Perhaps
mid summer would be more pleasant!

Rosemary



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Re: [MH-list] France in Mid-March

Ernest <ernb@...>
 

On 5/1/09 11:18, "derek_sims@..." <derek_sims@...> wrote:

I'd go along with Martin's recommendation and I would include the 3 A's -
Arles, Avignon and Aix-en-Provence.
Donzère is about 45 north of Avignon and well worth a couple of days. It
must be almost as old as Trier. It was a principality. Fascinating area.
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Re: [MH-list] Re: Break-Ins in France - was (unknown)

rosemary wollaston <rosemarywollaston@...>
 

We have a transit van, professionally converted.  It was bitter cold.  We managed to get a hook up one night so had our heater on, but two other people turned up and shared a hook up and blew the electricity altogether.  Luckily a maintenance man arrived in the morning and at least managed to de-frost the water for us.

The whole trip was a massive search for water and somewhere to stop, as a lot of the aires were closed for winter.

Shan't do it again in a hurry, certainly not in the cold months.  Perhaps mid summer would be more pleasant!

Rosemary




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To: "motorhome-list@..." <motorhome-list@...>
Sent: Monday, 5 January, 2009 11:48:18
Subject: Re: [MH-list] Re: Break-Ins in France - was (unknown)


On 5/1/09 11:02, "rosemary wollaston" <rosemarywollaston@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:

We were concerned about being 'done', especially as we spoke to only 1 other
motorhomer during our visit, and he had been done... said they put the gas in,
Now known to be a total myth. It was a convenient excuse for those who drove
too far, drank to much and passed out with the doors and windows left open.
That said, people have been befriended and drugged by other campers, but I
do not think that it is commonplace. Just something to be guarded against.

Now back in the UK and shattered.  It's put us off a bit, I must say,
especially as we had planned to go back in the summer.
I have lost count of the numbers of times I have had my van broken into in
the UK. Although the Strike-Back alarm saw them off before they had a chance
to get much, it has cost a fortune in replacement windows.

I have spent months on end solo camping in Europe with only one incident.
Someone nicked my HD hook-up cable in Clères last year.

Do not be put off camping in France. Do not overnight on motorway aires -
especially towards the south, and simply be aware. Do not camp alone in
remote parts. Use campsites, aires or, if stuck, park up in the Place de
L'eglise (Church Sq.) or La Grand Place - practically every town has one.

We froze in the winter, and don't want to boil in the summer!
What van do you have? Seems it's a "3 seasons" job. You really do need a
well insulated van to survive a continental winter.

HTH
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Re: [MH-list] Re: Break-Ins in France - was (unknown)

Ernest <ernb@...>
 

On 5/1/09 11:02, "rosemary wollaston" <rosemarywollaston@...> wrote:

We were concerned about being 'done', especially as we spoke to only 1 other
motorhomer during our visit, and he had been done... said they put the gas in,
Now known to be a total myth. It was a convenient excuse for those who drove
too far, drank to much and passed out with the doors and windows left open.
That said, people have been befriended and drugged by other campers, but I
do not think that it is commonplace. Just something to be guarded against.

Now back in the UK and shattered.  It's put us off a bit, I must say,
especially as we had planned to go back in the summer.
I have lost count of the numbers of times I have had my van broken into in
the UK. Although the Strike-Back alarm saw them off before they had a chance
to get much, it has cost a fortune in replacement windows.

I have spent months on end solo camping in Europe with only one incident.
Someone nicked my HD hook-up cable in Clères last year.

Do not be put off camping in France. Do not overnight on motorway aires -
especially towards the south, and simply be aware. Do not camp alone in
remote parts. Use campsites, aires or, if stuck, park up in the Place de
L'eglise (Church Sq.) or La Grand Place - practically every town has one.

We froze in the winter, and don't want to boil in the summer!
What van do you have? Seems it's a "3 seasons" job. You really do need a
well insulated van to survive a continental winter.

HTH
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ErnB
Bristol


Re: [MH-list] France in Mid-March

derek_sims@...
 

Thank you - it is tempting to go to the Med coast.


I'd go along with Martin's recommendation and I would include the 3 A's - Arles, Avignon and Aix-en-Provence. Arles has motorhome parking on the banks of the Rhone within walking distance of the centre, Roman remains and an excellent museum on the riverside. Nimes also has a very old part, but you seem to have to drive through a fairly scruffy part to get there. Only did it in the dark.

The Dordogne offers loads of attractive scenery and beautiful towns, but we've had sleet in that area in early April.

There is so much lovely stuff to see in France and it is so motorhome-friendly. Just go and enjoy it!

HTH

Derek


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