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Re: [MH-list] Wild camping in France now illegal?

Steve Latham <stephen.latham1@...>
 

Spot on. Just of the coat by La Rochelle now reached by big bridge. As I recall plenty campsites etc.

Steve L

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Wilson
To: motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [MH-list] Wild camping in France now illegal?


> Just come back from Ile de Re and wild camped 7 out of 9 nights, but it was
> difficult!

Don't know where the 'Ile de Re' is exactly, but I'd hazard a guess it's probably a tourist
trap. If so, then it stands to reason that such will be the first (and hopefully) only places
to have such a law rigorously enforced.

-Steve Wilson


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Re. Trim panels

Richard Evans <richard@...>
 

Steve Pyke wrote:
Does anyone know how to get the door trim panels off the driver
and passenger doors?
I've managed to release most of the plastic clips but what about the window
winder ?>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Most window winders I have ever had to deal with either have a screw in the
end hiding under a blanking roundel, or a pin sideways through the winding
shaft which is concealed by part of the base of the winder -- try pushing it
in towards or out away from the door.

Screwfix, Machine Mart and other mail order people have lots of special
tools for dealing with door trims but improvisation is usually possible.
HTH

regards
Richard Evans


Bedford CF advice ; Thankyou

Voxy
 

Thanks for your replies, I shall pass on the info to Trevor. I'm sure
he will be most appreciative.
Voxy


Re: [MH-list] Curly wurly hosepipes

Mike Shepherd <mike.shepherd1@...>
 

I bought one of these hoses as it seemed a good idea. Having previously
bought a cassette hose that needed to completely unwound and used
completely straight to avoid kinks, I thought I couldn't go wrong.
However having tried to fill my tank at the York show with it, after
15mins I gave up with only half a tank. They are very small bore, and
take forever.

The cassette will be going to the next car boot, and the curly will be
consigned to the garden.

They also try to make a straight path from the tap to the tank, and any
bonnet etc that gets in the way gets scuffed.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Rich [mailto:rich@ricksweb.co.uk]
Sent: 02 June 2003 19:47
To: motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MH-list] Curly wurly hosepipes

Steve,

My father in law has one of these, a green curly wurly thing that is
advertised in the Sunday supplements at about £19. Looks fine to me, but
either I or Deb will let you know after watering his plants with it
tomorrow!

Rich
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Wilson
To: motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 01 June 2003 18:24
Subject: [MH-list] Curly wurly hosepipes


I suppose every hosepipe ever manufactured might fall into one of
three categories.

a) there's your everyday garden-variety (arf arf) hose which is cheap
to buy, yet kinks
easily and folds ... erm ... eventually.
b) there's the flat ribbon-like stuff that winds onto a reel (slowly)
but can be stored in
very little space.
c) and then there's the (I think) more modern 'curly-wurly' hoses that
would seem to
combine ease of use with ease of storage.

Trouble is, I don't know anybody who has used such a hose. And it's
perhaps significant
that it's the solely the 'bargain-basement' type shops that stock this
stuff. At least in my
area.

Has anyone here got one? One concern I have is that the hose might be
so tightly
coiled, the user might struggle to use the thing at any useful
extended length. Rather
like some of those coiled bicycle lock cables.

Regards,
-Steve Wilson

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Distantly related to curly wurly hosepipes

mabelbabel2001 <Katebarker@...>
 

Hi everyone,
How important is it to have a special type of hose pipe (rather than
the common-or-garden green variety) for use when filling the
freshwater tank?
Kate (new to the list, and relatively new to motorhoming)


Re: [MH-list] Distantly related to curly wurly hosepipes

Mike Shepherd <mike.shepherd1@...>
 

Depends whether you are going to drink the stuff. We always take
drinking water in bottles, and use the tank water for washing etc.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mabelbabel2001 [mailto:Katebarker@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: 02 June 2003 23:01
To: motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MH-list] Distantly related to curly wurly hosepipes

Hi everyone,
How important is it to have a special type of hose pipe (rather than
the common-or-garden green variety) for use when filling the
freshwater tank?
Kate (new to the list, and relatively new to motorhoming)



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Re: [MH-list] Distantly related to curly wurly hosepipes

mabelbabel2001 <Katebarker@...>
 

We put water treatment tabs in tank, and use it for washing and
anything which involves boiling it first - eg cooking and brewing.
We use bottled water for straight drinking. Are we at risk of
something horrid?


--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Shepherd"
<mike.shepherd1@v...> wrote:
Depends whether you are going to drink the stuff. We always take
drinking water in bottles, and use the tank water for washing etc.

Mike



-----Original Message-----
From: mabelbabel2001 [mailto:Katebarker@b...]
Sent: 02 June 2003 23:01
To: motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MH-list] Distantly related to curly wurly hosepipes

Hi everyone,
How important is it to have a special type of hose pipe (rather
than
the common-or-garden green variety) for use when filling the
freshwater tank?
Kate (new to the list, and relatively new to motorhoming)



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Wind deflecters.

danmclouis
 

Does anyone know where to get wind deflecters from for a new shape
fiat ducato, cab windows?


Re: [MH-list] Distantly related to curly wurly hosepipes

Hilary
 

No, shouldn't think so, provided you are specific in the number of
tabs or spoonfuls of powder you put in for the amount of water you
are carrying in the tank. Bottled water is ok as far as it goes, but
in the UK we have the highest drinking water standards in Europe, so
provided you can cope with the taste of your domestic water supply,
just buy the first large quantity of bottled water in the 5 litre
plastic things you can get, and keep refilling it from a domestic or
camp water supply - in this country. Bottled water has been standing
on the shelf for a while, and it's possible you will never see the
words 'drinking water' on it; funnily enough I don't think they are
allowed to put that on it - or at least, that was the case a couple
of years ago.

Hilary

--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com, "mabelbabel2001"
<Katebarker@b...> wrote:
We put water treatment tabs in tank, and use it for washing and
anything which involves boiling it first - eg cooking and brewing.
We use bottled water for straight drinking. Are we at risk of
something horrid?


--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Shepherd"
<mike.shepherd1@v...> wrote:
Depends whether you are going to drink the stuff. We always take
drinking water in bottles, and use the tank water for washing
etc.

Mike


Re: [MH-list] Wild camping in France now illegal?

Steve Wilson <steve@...>
 

Spot on. Just of the coat by La Rochelle now reached by big bridge. As I recall plenty campsites etc.
Just had a look at the map. Yup ...thar she blows. Just to the south of Ile de Noirmoutier.

I remember making for there one summer's cycle tour, thinking I fancied a spot of beach
bumming. What a mistake! Even setting the crass timing aside (we chose the public
holiday when the whole of Paris drives there for a spot of baise-moi-vite), it has to be
said that the place itself is unremarkable.

Except for seasonal overcrowding, that is. We couldn't get a pitch on a camp site, so we
wild camped on the beach amidst all the rubbish and in full earshot of sundry adolescent
mating rituals. The following morning we arose early and made 120 miles to get as far
away from the place as possible.

-Steve


Re: [MH-list] Curly wurly hosepipes

Steve Wilson <steve@...>
 

Thanks for all your comments people. On balance, I don't think I'll bother.

Mile:
The cassette will be going to the next car boot, and the curly will be
consigned to the garden.
IOW you'll be using a conventional hosepipe for your motorhome from now on ???

-Steve


Re: Distantly related to curly wurly hosepipes

Voxy
 

--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com, "mabelbabel2001"
<Katebarker@b...> wrote:

How important is it to have a special type of hose pipe (rather
than the common-or-garden green variety) for use when filling the
freshwater tank?
---------------

Hi Kate,
We fill our m/home tank with the good old green garden hose, but
always let it run on the garden for a minute to ensure fresh water is
going into the tank, not water left in the hose from previous use.
We don't use water tablets or bottled water.
How many people worry about climbing into the attic and cleaning out
their water tank at home?
So whats the difference with the motorhome tank?
Voxy.


Re: [MH-list] Wild camping in France now illegal?

Buff Eagle <buff@...>
 

If you don't want to camp on a site, then you need to get away from where
the campsites are, get into the countryside and usually away from the sea if
it is a popular area. Go inland a little bit and you could be in a
different country! I have a feeling there is a rule about not wild camping
within a certain distance of a campsite.

Buff :0)


Re: Rear View Cameras

Voxy
 

--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com, Andy T <andy@w...> wrote:
On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 23:32:41 +0100 (BST), you wrote:

Due to difficulty with the wiring on our existing trailer, made me
think that there must be a way to have a reliable radio frequency
camera system on the trailer for safety purposes

-------------------

Having driven 38 tonne trucks for 27 years without a reversing
camera, nor being involved in a reversing accident I personally think
them a waste of time - I'd rather spend the money on a holiday in the
bus. But that's just my thoughts.
If there is a reversing camera system available that could also be
radio controlled to scan 360 degrees as a cctv security camera my
concerns would be that camera itself would be open to
vandalism/attack.
Voxy.


Re: Distantly related to curly wurly hosepipes

Hilary
 

--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com, "Voxy" <voxol51@y...> wrote:
--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com, "mabelbabel2001"
<Katebarker@b...> wrote:

How important is it to have a special type of hose pipe (rather
than the common-or-garden green variety) for use when filling the
freshwater tank?
---------------

Hi Kate,
We fill our m/home tank with the good old green garden hose, but
always let it run on the garden for a minute to ensure fresh water
is
going into the tank, not water left in the hose from previous use.
We don't use water tablets or bottled water.
How many people worry about climbing into the attic and cleaning
out
their water tank at home?
So whats the difference with the motorhome tank?
The throughput in your domestic water tank means that the water in
there is refreshed practically every day; 9 litres every time you
flush the loo, 130 litres for the washing machine, 108 for the
dishwasher, 30 for a shower, 90 for a bath, over 200 per hour for a
garden hose left on, etc,etc.... Think about it. Just putting the
washing machine on for one cycle would deplete the capacity of most
motorhome tanks I think.

Not only this, but the water from your mains has already been
chlorinated or treated in a way which should minimize the risk from
any 'bugs'...

When you fill your MH tank, the water in there is carefully conserved
and used far more reservedly than it is at home, I think?
Consequently, ~I~ think there is a need to treat the stuff with a
healthy respect when it comes to actually using it for anything other
than washing.

Hilary


Re: [MH-list] Wild camping in France now illegal?

Voxy
 

I agree with Buff. I too have heard this rule about no wild camping
within ? miles/kilometers of a campsite.
Again I think it boils down to common sense, courtesy, and good
manners.
We wild camped, along with others at the Eastern end of the sea front
in Llandudno, where there are only fields facing the sea front.
Whilst taking an evening stroll we saw one motorhome wild camping on
the sea front, parked directly outside the panaramic window of a
hotel dinning room. What a lovely view the residents must have had at
breakfast!
Voxy.


Re: [MH-list] Re: Distantly related to curly wurly hosepipes

nhrluk
 

You don't normally drink the water from your home tank. You would drink the
water from the mains supply; well, you should anyway..

Nigel


In a message dated 03/06/03 00:26:01 GMT Daylight Time, voxol51@yahoo.co.uk
writes:


How many people worry about climbing into the attic and cleaning out
their water tank at home?
So whats the difference with the motorhome tank?
Voxy.




Re: [MH-list] Re: Distantly related to curly wurly hosepipes

Duncan Withall <duncan@...>
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Voxy [mailto:voxol51@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 03 June 2003 00:25
To: motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MH-list] Re: Distantly related to curly wurly hosepipes

--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com, "Voxy" <voxol51@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

We don't use water tablets or bottled water.
How many people worry about climbing into the attic and cleaning out
their water tank at home?
So whats the difference with the motorhome tank?

Well said, Voxy.

In 50 years of motor caravanning, I have never had a problem with UK water
in my tank, or foreign water after a few days.

The human body is a wonderful thing and quickly acclimatises to its normal
environment. That is, UK residents are unlikely to suffer from regularly
drinking UK water (unless it is actually green or is contaminated by a
central heating system).

Some people, less than one per cent, react to certain chemicals used in the
purification process. So, unless you are one of the few reactors, the only
reason for re-treating water is the taste.

Generally speaking, mains water in this country is safe to drink and MH
tanks are closed, impermeable and lightproof. The tanks are therefore
better storage than a clear plastic bottle which is neither impermeable of
lightproof. Most bottled water claims to be "spring" or "organic"; i.e., it
contains all the bugs it came out of the ground with.

Duncan


Motor cycle hydraulic rear tail lift

pilotepete@...
 

I have seen on the back of RVs substantial tail lifts but wondered if anyone had any experience of them and whose to recommend? I need to carry my heavy motorcycle that weighs about 350 kilos.



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Bikes towed in trailer.
Birmingham UK


RESIGNING AND FULL TIMING

pilotepete@...
 

I rather like the fact that your wife is supporting you in this, (I hope she is now I’ve said that J) because I do believe that you can do anything you want. Personally, I would approach this by both of you starting on the language first while you have the time to do it. Get the basics formed and practice when you get there too. There are classes there too.
Personally, I like France. It’s all a big adventure anyway and while we have this immigration policy and Tony Blair is doing what he does best, talk and think later, then we have don’t have too many positive things to look forward to.

I’ve met a young family like yours that have pulled up the roots and gone to live in Ibiza and they loved it even though it was part time work. A challenge that your children will savour in years to come, besides yourselves. Although I’ve never full timed, I have often thought that it would be nice to do. It’s all a matter of who is left behind! I understand the first five years are the worst until you make it with your group of friends.

It looks as if a left hooker is the way to go as they are a little cheaper here. I’m not sure how you are importing them to France but I know that in Spain you can only keep the UK vehicle for six months so something you need to check on.

Whatever, take a camera record all that you can and then write either a book or short articles for either MMM or ITV4 for their relocating program.



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Bikes towed in trailer.
Birmingham UK

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