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Re: [MH-list] Re: Length of mains hookup lead?

Steve Wilson <steve@...>
 

Tony:
We carry a 12.5 and 25 metre leads, 12.5m works for most CC sites.
The other half of the 12.5 is semie permenantly connected up at home
Sorry ... didn't really understand this. You're saying that the lead that is 'semi
permanently' connected is also the one that works best at most sites. Is this correct? If
not, which lead is which?

Buff:
One is the longest and one
the shortest length we could find.
But what are the lengths please?

Alan:
steve, most hook up leads are 2.5mm2 not 1.5mm2, most uk ehu are 15a
so bigger cable safer bet.
The Maplins site has the current capacity of the 1.5mm2 arctic cable as 15A. That's a
wapping current, and some 2A greater than the rated capacity of the UK plug I'll be
using on the front when at home. I reasoned that the 2.5mm2 would be overkill, and
behave like a ship's hawser when being coiled.

most ehu leads come in 25m lengths which
are ok for most sites.
Whoops. And I thought I was overdoing it when I bought 15m :-)

Many thanks to all,
-Steve


Re: [MH-list] Re: Roundabout priority nor Driving instructors

Martin Villar <MARTIN@...>
 

There is a difference between what most motorists would do in normal driving
and what they would have to do to pass a ROSPA test.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike" <mike@appletek.demon.co.uk>
To: <motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:10 AM
Subject: [MH-list] Re: Roundabout priority nor Driving instructors


I wish you luck with your ROSPA test but would advise you to check with
the
highway code as to the purpose of "flashing your headlights" before you
take
the test.
Maybe its not 'highway code', but can you suggest a better way of
attracting attention in this scenario?
Or would you just follow them until they hit something because the
highway code does not allow for flashing lights at other road users?




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Re: Wild camping in France now illegal?

Stuart <gwenstuart2002@...>
 

wild camping illegal in France
--
Alan, I thought wild camping had been illegal in France for years!
Mainly because of the fire risk in summer from cooking outside. It is
rigidly enforced.
This has nothing to do with parking a motorhome (overnight) &
enjoying this beautiful country.


Re: Length of mains hookup lead?

tonyishuk <nonny_mouse@...>
 


* on camping sites, what is the average distance between mains
hookup and pitch, and
* what is the longest such distance you feel you have to cater for?

======================

We carry a 12.5 and 25 metre leads, 12.5m works for most CC sites.
The other half of the 12.5 is semie permenantly connected up at home
so that the batteries of the van can be charged when required.


Re: Roundabout priority nor Driving instructors

Mike <mike@...>
 

I wish you luck with your ROSPA test but would advise you to check with the
highway code as to the purpose of "flashing your headlights" before you take
the test.
Maybe its not 'highway code', but can you suggest a better way of attracting attention in this scenario?
Or would you just follow them until they hit something because the highway code does not allow for flashing lights at other road users?


Re: Wild camping in France now illegal?

chrismartinson1949 <chris.martinson@...>
 

--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com, Alan Cocks <aec@c...> wrote:
I see in C&C magazine May 2003 issue that a recent French law has
made
wild camping illegal in France. Is this taking people by surprise,
or
has it been expected?
--
Alan Cocks Berkshire UK
Alan, I had no problems at all wild camping in France over the Bank
Holiday but we were carefully looked at by the gendames on more than
one occasion. Whether there is a law or not, as in the UK, I would
have thought the police would not bother you if you park sensibly
and not create a nuisance.
Chris


Re: [MH-list] Barbeques...and difficulty posting

Ralph <ralph.burtonshaw@...>
 

One thing to be careful of is your e-mail address. If you have more than one
account set up then make sure you select the one registered with Yahoo when
sending. If not then the mail doesn't bounce, it just disappears.
Having said that, it would affect the other list as well so I suppose it's
not the answer in your case.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ruth" <geoff@glaslyn129.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 1:34 AM
Subject: [MH-list] Barbeques...and difficulty posting


Hi everyone. Thanks for allyour help re BBQ's. Actually I got a shock
to see my message, I've been trying to join in the chat for weeks but
my messages never appear.I tried to reply to Hilary but that didn't
show either.I have sent messages to and fro to Yahoo, and checked I
am doing everything right. The other list I have joined, there's no
problem. At least now I know it's not personal...you really are a


Re: [MH-list] invisable

Neil J.Bartlett <avcomlab@...>
 

Actually, that depends on the design :-)

Back in the mid 70's when I worked in Australia I fitted an home made Bull-bar to our new (secondhand) Ranger Rover and then drove from Ballarat Vic to Derby WA via Sydney and Darwin to start a new job above the 23rd parallel. Roo-Bars were an essential protection in the outback where there is no fencing between the road (read track) and the open range. Unfortunately, we had no money left, you see, the Range Rover was a covetous purchase of the sort made by the very young in conjunction with greedy banks who love HP :-) so I had to make my own RooBar from free bits.

I was short of bits (and very short of time) so I liberated (with permission) a set of hardened spring steel undercarriage legs from the quarantine store that had been removed from a two seat trainer aircraft made in NZ and Australia called a Victa Airtourer. The legs had been replaced because one of the pair had developed a hairline crack and, although still serviceable were now surplus. I managed to bolt the wheel end of the legs to each of the chassis members of the rangee at the bumper mounts so the leg sloped up and forward and then welded two pipes across the legs to make a Roo-Bar. I had to do it this way as the legs could not be drilled or otherwise modified due the hardening treatment. We then set off as only had a few days to drive the few thousand miles to Derby.

On our way across the desert at speed (140K) one dark night. We were running late you see, almost totally :-) late....
We met a herd of black cattle bests sleeping on the eight foot wide seal, we were still doing about fifty five mph when we connected with the side of one of these poor dumb animals. When it landed about two car lengths up the road its legs collapsed under it and it sat on its belly for a second before jumping up and running off into the night. At this point we collapsed into hysterical laughter as we realised the headlights were all still working, we were still running in a straight line down the seal, how-be-it all the wheels were locked up solid; and even the steer had run off. At that point I just planted the gas pedal and kept going.

The moral - fix a trampoline to the front of the MH and everybody is safe :-)

- Neil


On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 10:47 Pacific/Auckland, Steve Latham wrote:

So do Pedestrians,Cyclists and motorcyclists.
Bull bars should be illegal

Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: dave harrison
To: motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:50 PM
Subject: [MH-list] invisable


Hi All,
If you remember last year I asked if anyone had any Bull-Bars for
Express/Ducato 1989, well I am still looking for some! <snipped>

-----------------------------------------
Some days you're the bug,
Some days you're the windshield.


Re: EURO VALUE

Hilary
 

--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com, "Buff Eagle" <buff@b...> wrote:

I'm planning to purchase M/H in September. Cash to spare?
£12/14000.

I know . . . . Hilary can raise the price of her camper van and
then you
can buy hers! :0))))))))

Buff :0)


Tut,tut,tut.....after all this time, Buff, don't you know the
difference between a campervan and a motorhome???????!!!!!!!!

;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

I'd gladly raise the price if I thought that would get my beloved MrC
sold, but unfortunately things seem to work the other way round....

Hilary


Re: Barbeques...and difficulty posting

Hilary
 

--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com, "Ruth" <geoff@g...> wrote:
Hi everyone. Thanks for allyour help re BBQ's. Actually I got a
shock
to see my message, I've been trying to join in the chat for weeks
but
my messages never appear.I tried to reply to Hilary but that didn't
show either.I have sent messages to and fro to Yahoo, and checked I
am doing everything right. The other list I have joined, there's no
problem. At least now I know it's not personal...you really are a
friendly crowd!! Anyone know why this is happening...is it a common
problem?
Ruth, it's a problem I've had once or twice before when Yahoo decided
it didn't like me very much, and the way I got round it was to
unsubscribe from the group and then to re-join. That seemed to cure
it. However, as your posting has now appeared, perhaps your problems
are over!

Hilary


Barbeques...and difficulty posting

Ruth <geoff@...>
 

Hi everyone. Thanks for allyour help re BBQ's. Actually I got a shock
to see my message, I've been trying to join in the chat for weeks but
my messages never appear.I tried to reply to Hilary but that didn't
show either.I have sent messages to and fro to Yahoo, and checked I
am doing everything right. The other list I have joined, there's no
problem. At least now I know it's not personal...you really are a
friendly crowd!! Anyone know why this is happening...is it a common
problem?


Re: [MH-list] invisable

Allan Quirk <allanquirk@...>
 

Better warn the bulls!!!
Allan

----- Original Message -----
From: dave harrison
To: motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:50 PM
Subject: [MH-list] invisable


Hi All,
If you remember last year I asked if anyone had any Bull-Bars for
Express/Ducato 1989, well I am still looking for some! But the main reason
for wanting them is being carved up! it is almost continuos when out with
the M/H,they seem hell bent on beating me to a junction/roundabout I try to
keep near the speed limit but it makes no difference. The damage that could
be done to the front would be expensive and being a pensioner.with a limited
income I don't it. I know it started a controversy last year, but a guy
needs something to protect him when on the road!
Regards,
Dave C.



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Re: [MH-list] invisable

Steve Latham <stephen.latham1@...>
 

So do Pedestrians,Cyclists and motorcyclists.
Bull bars should be illegal

Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: dave harrison
To: motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:50 PM
Subject: [MH-list] invisable


Hi All,
If you remember last year I asked if anyone had any Bull-Bars for
Express/Ducato 1989, well I am still looking for some! But the main reason
for wanting them is being carved up! it is almost continuos when out with
the M/H,they seem hell bent on beating me to a junction/roundabout I try to
keep near the speed limit but it makes no difference. The damage that could
be done to the front would be expensive and being a pensioner.with a limited
income I don't it. I know it started a controversy last year, but a guy
needs something to protect him when on the road!
Regards,
Dave C.




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Re: [MH-list] Re: Length of mains hookup lead?

Buff Eagle <buff@...>
 

Steve . . . we have two electric cables. . . both bought already made up
from camper van/caravan accessory type shops. One is the longest and one
the shortest length we could find. The shortest one is used at home if I
want to cool the fridge etc before we leave home, or if the weather is
really cold I hook up the night before we go and leave a greenhouse type
fire in the van to keep the van warm/windows clear. We take this length
with us for occassional use but usually it is a tiny bit too short and we
have to get out the long one!! (You need enough length for the cable to lie
flat on the ground) The extra long one has always been long enough. I don't
think that creating an even longer one by joining two lengths together is a
very good idea as I would think people could easily trip/stumble on the
rather bulky joint. We store these leads in stuff bags which allow them to
coil round but lie flat, and they shove into a very small area without any
bother. It is bound to be raining when you dismantle the cables, so a stuff
bag keeps everything else dry. We keep the various adaptors in the bag too
. . . always carry the one that connects to house mains electricity with
you as there is nothing more annoying than realising it is in the garage at
home when you need it!

Have fun

Buff :0)


EURO VALUE

Buff Eagle <buff@...>
 

I'm planning to purchase M/H in September. Cash to spare? 12/14000.
I know . . . . Hilary can raise the price of her camper van and then you
can buy hers! :0))))))))

Buff :0)


Re: Length of mains hookup lead?

alan <alanjbassett@...>
 

--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Wilson" <steve@s...>
wrote:
Just been out and bought myself some CEE plugs and 15m of 1.5
12amp 'arctic' cable.
My original thought was to simply make one l-o-n-g lead, thinking
that would cover me
for 99% of all cases. However, after coiling this cable for the
first time (no very easy
task), the thought struck me that it may be better to have two
shorter leads. Mostly I
would use one; this would be just long enough to reach the hookup
points on most
campsites. The other lead would only emerge when I needed it, and
would serve as an
extension - the plugs fitting together.

SO

lacking experience in such matters, I ask:-

* on camping sites, what is the average distance between mains
hookup and pitch, and
* what is the longest such distance you feel you have to cater for?

Also (two bonus questions :-)
* what is the commonest type of socket found on UK sites, and
* ditto European sites?

Regards,
-Steve Wilson
steve, most hook up leads are 2.5mm2 not 1.5mm2, most uk ehu are 15a
so bigger cable safer bet. most ehu leads come in 25m lengths which
are ok for most sites. most uk sites use universal blue 3 pin
connectors as do a lot of french sites
hope this helps
bertie


Length of mains hookup lead?

Steve Wilson <steve@...>
 

Just been out and bought myself some CEE plugs and 15m of 1.5 12amp 'arctic' cable.
My original thought was to simply make one l-o-n-g lead, thinking that would cover me
for 99% of all cases. However, after coiling this cable for the first time (no very easy
task), the thought struck me that it may be better to have two shorter leads. Mostly I
would use one; this would be just long enough to reach the hookup points on most
campsites. The other lead would only emerge when I needed it, and would serve as an
extension - the plugs fitting together.

SO

lacking experience in such matters, I ask:-

* on camping sites, what is the average distance between mains hookup and pitch, and
* what is the longest such distance you feel you have to cater for?

Also (two bonus questions :-)
* what is the commonest type of socket found on UK sites, and
* ditto European sites?

Regards,
-Steve Wilson


Re. Site Wardens

Richard Evans <richard@...>
 

Paul Phipps wrote:
With hindsight, I know now that I should have tried putting in a word
but I was a little late in picking up on what was happening - the warden
gleefully explained all to me when she'd finished sending her victim
packing!
Over the piece bad experiences are the exception and not the rule for
us.>>>>>>>>>

Though perhaps not too late to write a letter of complaint to the C&CC,
along the lines you have outlined. This behaviour places UK in a very bad
light.

regards
Richard Evans


Re: [MH-list] Barbeques

DABurleigh <daburleigh@...>
 

Advice please! For many years we used a small gas barbeque ....
We have looked at Beauclaire, Cadac etc but it seems to me that these are
not
really BBQ's at all, as they do not have coals.
We are lucky enough to have excellent conventional facilities in our van
and it is a
BBQ we need, at home we have a gas BBQ which cooks superbly. Can anyone
recommend a small one which is really good? Or any thoughts on
Beauclaire etc.?
Ruth,

Your query goes to the heart of a definition of a BBQ; it is a subject where
many have strong views (that's a euphemism, by the way).

You believe a "proper" BBQ must have coals or lava rock of some sort. On the
other hand, many would argue a gas BBQ (which you are after) is not a
"proper" BBQ at all! The same claim that only with charcoal/ briquettes can
you obtain the "real" BBQ taste.

At this point I must nail my colours to the mast and say that not only am I
a fan of gas BBQs both at home and away, I consider coals of any kind to be
entirely optional in achieving a BBQ taste, on the assumption, that is, by
BBQ taste one does not mean food tasting of carbon by virtue of either being
in intimate contact with the briquettes or courtesy of out-of-control
flames!

Indeed http://www.gasbarbecues.co.uk generally shows that, as one increases
in quality and price of gas BBQs, one moves from lava rock to ceramic
briquettes (last longer and easier to clean) to a carefully designed metal
bed devoid of any "coals". In all these methods, all that is needed is some
way of burning fat coming off the food so that it can be flooded by the
smoke generated.

Hopefully the BBQ design also allows scope for controlling flare-ups where
an excess of fat, or temperature, (usually both) causes flames to lick
extensively at the food, again converting it to pure carbon!

I have had a Cadac for over 13 years now, used heavily each year. I would
happily buy another. Before doing so, I would consider the Beauclaire, if
only to check out its crepe-making ability when compared with a cheap ring
burner I have plus heavy mild steel disc! A fellow camper has a Beauclaire,
but resented its cost and still uses a separate burner for crepes - last
summer on a site in the south of France he virtually had a little cottage
industry going selling crepes to the French. Talk about coals to Newcastle!
(pardon pun).

And if anyone is considering a gas BBQ for home, I can vouch for the design,
quality and value-for-money of the Sterling range available from the
web-site mentioned above. I've had mine, with not a coal in sight, for 2
years. I was in the shop again last Sunday - the couple whose business it is
are extremely helpful and patient on the phone to ensure you get the right
BBQ for you.

Dave


Re: [MH-list] Re: 14" wheels

Vin Rigby <vin-rigby@...>
 

This has come up before on this list, speedo has got to be well out plus
oddometer will be registering less miles - maybe good in one sense but maybe
costly if checked by authorities.

Vin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Villar" <MARTIN@drivingcentre.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MH-list] Re: 14" wheels


Hi
one question, if fitting 16 inch wheels in place of 14 inch has the speedo
been recalibrated as if would be circa 13% out
Martin
----- Original Message -----
From: "dave harrison" <chippard@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MH-list] Re: 14" wheels


Hi,
The 16" and 14" wheels are the same pcd, but if you have the 16"
wheels
on your van as standard then the 14" wheels won't fit because of the
larger
dia discs (290 mm). I hope this helps.
Regards,
Dave C.

-------Original Message-------

From: motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com
Date: 25 May 2003 22:29:18
To: motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MH-list] Re: 14" wheels

Hi,

I was wondering, to fit the 16" wheels which seem to be on a larger
pcd fixing. Did you look for 16" wheels with the smaller pcd before
going to the expense of new discs etc. or am I mistaken?

The reason I ask is that to fit snow chains on the 16" (as already
fitted to my vehicle) is not possible, so I would have to use smaller
wheels and tyres but haven't seen any with the larger pcd. Or where
do you suggest I look?

Thanks.


--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com, "dave harrison"
<chippard@t...> wrote:
Hi All,
I have recently had the front discs and calipers replaced
for the
larger sized 16" wheels, so there is a full set of 14" wheels with
reasonably good tyres, calipers and very good discs all these are
for the
Fiat Ducato, Express, C25 circa 1985/92. They are all in good order
and
anyone requiring these please enquire off list.
chippard@t...
Regards,
Dave C.



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