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[MH-list] Re: Scan Guage / mpg

chris724114 <chris724114@...>
 

Thanks for the explanation. Bearing in mind the Ducato is one of the
most widel used vans around (not just for motorcaravans) it seems odd
that a compatible version has notbeen produced.

ChrisC

--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.co.uk, "Nigel Owen" <nigel@...>
wrote:


----- Original Message -----
From: "chris724114" <chris724114@...>
To: <motorhome-list@yahoogroups.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:50 AM
Subject: [MH-list] Re: Scan Guage / mpg


I have been advised by the distributor that the ScanGauge is not
compatible with my 2004 Ducato, though no reason was given.

ChrisC
Chris:

The reason is because the connecting block on a 2004 Ducato doesn't
have
enough pins for the ScanGuage to work - I had the same problem with
my 2004
Ducato.

If you search the UK distributors website (from what I recall the
Forums
section) you can pull up a diagram to help identify this.

On a previous ScanGuage thread I posted a direct link to this but
can't find
it at the moment.

Nigel.


Re: [MH-list] Travel Insurance.....did I here this correctly?

Don Madge <don.madge@...>
 

On Fri 17 October 2008 06:59 602 wrote

I managed to get the booklet from my mate's bank (different branch), but
chatting with my mate on his mobile is very restricted. Looking at the
booklet,
he pays the bank several pounds each month, and gets various benefits in
return. These include break-down cover, and travel insurance. The TI is
limited to
several million pounds for medical treatment, reasonable
travel/accomadation
expenses, and £25 a day while in hospital. It does not include payment for

operations that could have waited until return to UK.

As money is actually changing hands, I presume his bank will have problems
avoiding their liabilities?

I understand that Crete is part of the EU, so there will be some NI cover?

But are you suggesting tha FREEBIE travel cover is not worth having?I will
rephrase that.....would you rely on freebie cover when traveling abroad?
----------------------------------------------------------------
John,

Crete (Greece) is in the EU so any treatment your friend needed should have
been available from the local hospital and covered by the EHIC (European
Health Insurance Card).

It sounds like they might have gone to a private clinic where the EHIC will
not cover you..

If your friend is not fit to fly home on her scheduled flight this is when
the insurance comes in unless their tour operator can re schedule their
flight for them.

We personally don't rely on free bee insurance from our bank, it's usually
limited to short stay holidays. We have combined travel/medical cover that
allows us to be away for up to 180 days at a time.

Would be interested in how your friends get on and where they are staying as
we plan to tour Crete next April.

You stated chatting to your mate on his mobile is very restricted is this
because of the poor mobile cover in Crete?

I hope all goes well for them.


Don


Re: [MH-list] Travel Insurance.....did I here this correctly?

Ernest <ernb@...>
 

This what happens when you buy cheap insurance or like your pal it comes as
a free bee from a bank. It is usually very basic cover and you don't find
out until its too late as you have not read the small print.
This is so symptomatic of what is wrong, Don. It is about time that the
sleakit bastards were thoroughly regulated. They are con merchants.

If you opened a can of sausages and beans and found that it contained no
sausages, Trading Standards would be all over the shopkeeper. He would be
hauled off in chains.

Quite honestly, I do not bother. In spite of all the tips and advice on this
list, I was unable to get suitable cover at a reasonable price. Especially
when one can never be sure of the cover provided.

Sod 'em!
--
ErnB
Bristol


Re: [MH-list] Travel Insurance.....did I here this correctly?

W3526602@...
 

In a message dated 17/10/2008 06:42:52 GMT Daylight Time, ernb@supanet.com
writes:

This what happens when you buy cheap insurance or like your pal it comes as
a free bee from a bank. It is usually very basic cover and you don't find
out until its too late as you have not read the small print.
Hi,

I managed to get the booklet from my mate's bank (different branch), but
chatting with my mate on his mobile is very restricted. Looking at the booklet,
he pays the bank several pounds each month, and gets various benefits in
return. These include break-down cover, and travel insurance. The TI is limited to
several million pounds for medical treatment, reasonable travel/accomadation
expenses, and £25 a day while in hospital. It does not include payment for
operations that could have waited until return to UK.

As money is actually changing hands, I presume his bank will have problems
avoiding their liabilities?

I understand that Crete is part of the EU, so there will be some NI cover?

But are you suggesting tha FREEBIE travel cover is not worth having?I will
rephrase that.....would you rely on freebie cover when traveling abroad?

602







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Re: NEC Yesterday

mike.motorhome <mike.motorhome@...>
 

--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.co.uk, Mike Shepherd
<mikeshepherd@...> wrote:

Went to the NEC yesterday.

Very quiet, not many visitors.

Buyers lounge where you get free chanpagne if you buy was empty.

Downturn or recession?

Mike
From Mike to Mike

both

Couldn't resist taking a photo. Will try to publish it somewhere for
those unable to attend the not too-crowded NEC.

Mike


Re: Lunar Lunarcy - gathering storm

mike.motorhome <mike.motorhome@...>
 

--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.co.uk, "rolyjk" <rolyjk@...> wrote:

Presumably the storm never arrived!

Couldn't for the life of me understand why the lack of a warranty
document should require the setting up of a website to attempt to
resolve the issue. However I can understand the frustration in being
unable to resolve it, but there's always two sides to a story and
we've only heard one of them.

Anyway, I passed by the Lunar stand on Tuesday early afternoon
expecting to see fireworks and it was very peaceful. There were
certainly no signs of the promised demonstration.

Just had a quick glance at motorhomemike's website and it seems to
be
closed down. I guess either he's resolved the issue with Freedom or
that Pet Human's excellent post hit home.
Dear Rolyjk

Your sentiments are well u/s and, as with most things these days, the
tip of the iceberg is all you see in the public domain.

Thanks for your interest and advice which is helpful.

After discussion with the company, the site has closed. Its closure
pursues my theme of being reasonable in the hope of a favourable
outcome.

Yours truly

Mike



Perhaps motorhomemike can let us know.

Roly


Re: Lunar Lunarcy - gathering storm

rolyjk <rolyjk@...>
 

Presumably the storm never arrived!

Couldn't for the life of me understand why the lack of a warranty
document should require the setting up of a website to attempt to
resolve the issue. However I can understand the frustration in being
unable to resolve it, but there's always two sides to a story and
we've only heard one of them.

Anyway, I passed by the Lunar stand on Tuesday early afternoon
expecting to see fireworks and it was very peaceful. There were
certainly no signs of the promised demonstration.

Just had a quick glance at motorhomemike's website and it seems to be
closed down. I guess either he's resolved the issue with Freedom or
that Pet Human's excellent post hit home.

Perhaps motorhomemike can let us know.

Roly


Re: [MH-list] Travel Insurance.....did I here this correctly?

Don Madge <don.madge@...>
 

On Thurs 16 October 2008 16:09 602 wrote

Not campervan related.....until it happens to you.

I had a phone call from my mate this lunchtime, he is on Crete. He should
have been home a few days ago, but his wife is in hospital with a heart
problem. It seems the hospital do not consider her fit enough to fly. "Are
you
insured?" I ask him. "Yes, but.......!"

As I understand it, his insurers would do NOTHING until they has spoken to
her GP in UK. They have now spoken, and accept that they are going to pay.

Next problem is that (as he understands it) he has to pay up front, and
claim it back when he returns to UK.

What if he hasn't got any money? Tough!

What if he can't afford to stay in a hotel? Tough!

Is this really the way that travel insurance works? His insurers are a
major
UK bank (or maybe their agents)and the travel insurance is part of a
package
that he pays for each month.

Can anybody offer any comment?
-------------------------------------------------
Hi 602,

This what happens when you buy cheap insurance or like your pal it comes as
a free bee from a bank. It is usually very basic cover and you don't find
out until its too late as you have not read the small print.

Don


Re: [MH-list] NEC Yesterday

Ernest <ernb@...>
 

On 16/10/08 13:45, "Roy Coldrick" <roy@coldrick.net> wrote:

Back on topic I agree with Mike that there did seem to be less business
going on at the NEC and that isn't surprising.
Not wishing to rub it in, but look at Message #90830 from Dec 2007.

I even got the falling oil price right.

Like the hurricane said to the coconut tree, "Hold on to your nuts, this is
no ordinary blow through!"

The people who really got everything right, of course, are those real
scientists who contributed to the Club of Rome Report in 1972. And check out
the graph on this website. (The written bit will chill anyone's bones.)

http://www.dieoff.org/page25.htm

For those who find it hard going, one of the paragraphs near the end reads:
-

In the first place, we would reiterate our original message; in the words of
Jay Forrester: "Over the last hundred years, life on earth was dominated by
growth. Growth of population, of production, of income and capital
formation, of exhaustion and pollution. This growth is going to stop and
must stop, and the only question is by what means? Voluntarily, by
government and free will, or through natural processes, which means collapse
and disaster?"

Despite all of the warnings, the money men have pressed on through ever
bigger crises. Is this another warning, or is this the big one?

ErnB
Bristol


Re: [MH-list] Winnebago skylights

tasman2405@...
 

In a message dated 16/10/2008 12:56:31 GMT Daylight Time,
geflechef@yahoo.co.uk writes:

Hello All. I have 2 skylights,(fanlights??,i.e. window vents in the
roof,forgive my ignorance!), that weep quite badly in rain,(bucket job),obviously a
DIY job. Need pro help to seal or replace in Cumbria.
Dealers here are tourist hungry for rich pickings!!. Any suggestions for a
good deal?
Geoff


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Geoff

From a fellow Cumbrian, there's no-one I'd trust in this neck of the woods -
any work that needs doing on my MH (admittedly a Hymer), I take it to Peter
Hambilton at Penwortham, Preston, not cheap, but does a fantastic job.

Originally Peter only carried out repairs on Hymer vehicles, but I noticed
the last time I was there he had a couple of other makes in the workshop.

Have a look at the site address I've given - I've no connection, just a
happy, satisfied customer.


_http://www.friendlyhippo.co.uk/hymerdirect/service.html_
(http://www.friendlyhippo.co.uk/hymerdirect/service.html)

Keith


Re: [MH-list] NEC Yesterday

Roy Coldrick
 

Ernie

That reminded me of a joke I heard which I believe was told by Margaret
Thatcher.

Three people were arguing whether theirs was the 'Oldest Profession'.
First , and most obviously, the Prostitute stepped forward and claimed
what everyone knew, that Street Walkers were the Oldest Profession.
Then the Town Planner stepped up and said that , in his view the oldest
profession had to be the Town Planner because before them there would
have been total chaos
At which point the Economist stood up and cheekily asked - 'But who do
you imagine created the chaos'?
--

Back on topic I agree with Mike that there did seem to be less business
going on at the NEC and that isn't surprising.

Roy

---------------


Mind you, the economists and analysts are forecasting a
slump. Being as they are fourth only to astrologers, dice
rollers and oui-ja board operators in the accuracy of their
forecasts, we could be in for another boom.


Re: [MH-list] NEC Yesterday

Andy Clarke <andy@...>
 

On 16/10/2008 13:00, Mike Shepherd wrote:
Went to the NEC yesterday.
Very quiet, not many visitors.
Buyers lounge where you get free chanpagne if you buy was empty.
Downturn or recession?
We were there Tuesday & Wednesday, Tuesday seemed busier but still quiet.

Mind you, the new location for the show does give a lot more room for visitors to spread out.

Andy Clarke
--
www.ukmotorhomes.net - The UK Motorhome Website
www.motorhomemarket.co.uk - The Motorhome Classifieds


Re: [MH-list] NEC Yesterday

Roy Coldrick
 

We also went and we were disappointed.

The parking was disorganised in my view and then the bus into the halls
stopped at the end we didn't want to be, so it meant a long walk through
to the M'van halls and without the Show Guide I am not sure we would
have found our way out! Having said that the stands seemed to be bigger
in the new halls so I suspect the exhibitors are being given more space
for the same money. The accessory stands were more difficult to find and
the ones we went to were grumbling about the layout and the lack of
customers.

The worst part was the paying. We hadn't booked in advance because we
weren't sure until the day that Wendy would be up to it so we paid at
the door - with the £2 discount from the C&CC club - and claimed the
'Senior' discount as well. We took our bus passes as proof of age - not
knowing if it was for over 60's or 65's. When we arrived to pay I
presented the girl with the 'proof of age' and she dismissed them
implying that she didn't need to look at that to see we were old!! I
hits you when it happens doesn't it.

Didn't get to see everything by a long way but I did like the Carthago
C-liner. I was also impressed with the inside of the 5th wheeler from
Celtic Rambler although I can't say I saw it as a practical option but I
may be wrong. I did like the Timberland van which we spent some time
looking at and found the chap on the stand to be very helpful and
knowledgeable. Brownhills staff were as Brownhills staff usually are -
read into that what you will!

Roy

-----Original Message-----
From: motorhome-list@yahoogroups.co.uk
[mailto:motorhome-list@yahoogroups.co.uk] On Behalf Of Mike Shepherd
Sent: 16 October 2008 13:00
To: motorhome-list@yahoogroups.co.uk
Subject: [MH-list] NEC Yesterday


Went to the NEC yesterday.

Very quiet, not many visitors.

Buyers lounge where you get free chanpagne if you buy was empty.

Downturn or recession?

Mike



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Re: [MH-list] NEC Yesterday

Ernest <ernb@...>
 

On 16/10/08 13:00, "Mike Shepherd" <mikeshepherd@gofast.co.uk> wrote:

Buyers lounge where you get free chanpagne if you buy was empty.

Downturn or recession?
Did anyone catch the BBC piece from some giant shopping mall in the States?
There was one car in a car park big enough to land a Jumbo in, and only 5 of
the 160 odd shops was open. If that is the shape of things to come, then we
are in for a very lean time indeed.

Mind you, the economists and analysts are forecasting a slump. Being as they
are fourth only to astrologers, dice rollers and oui-ja board operators in
the accuracy of their forecasts, we could be in for another boom.

Let's hope so.

And the GBP is still creeping up against the Euro. Every little helps.
--
ErnB
Bristol


Re: [MH-list] NEC Yesterday

G Dawson <sucodude@...>
 

We are hoping to go on Sunday so you never know might be some bargains to be
had...fingers crossed....geoff

On 16/10/2008, Mike Shepherd <mikeshepherd@gofast.co.uk> wrote:

Went to the NEC yesterday.

Very quiet, not many visitors.

Buyers lounge where you get free chanpagne if you buy was empty.

Downturn or recession?

Mike



NEC Yesterday

Mike Shepherd <mikeshepherd@...>
 

Went to the NEC yesterday.

Very quiet, not many visitors.

Buyers lounge where you get free chanpagne if you buy was empty.

Downturn or recession?

Mike


Re: [MH-list] Travel Insurance.....did I here this correctly?

W3526602@...
 

In a message dated 16/10/2008 16:36:15 GMT Daylight Time,
don.madge@tiscali.co.uk writes:

This what happens when you buy cheap insurance or like your pal it comes as
a free bee from a bank. It is usually very basic cover and you don't find
out until its too late as you have not read the small print.



Hi Don,

Only it wasn't a freebie.

602


Travel Insurance.....did I here this correctly?

W3526602@...
 

Hi,

Not campervan related.....until it happens to you.

I had a phone call from my mate this lunchtime, he is on Crete. He should
have been home a few days ago, but his wife is in hospital with a heart
problem. It seems the hospital do not consider her fit enough to fly. "Are you
insured?" I ask him. "Yes, but.......!"

As I understand it, his insurers would do NOTHING until they has spoken to
her GP in UK. They have now spoken, and accept that they are going to pay.

Next problem is that (as he understands it) he has to pay up front, and
claim it back when he returns to UK.

What if he hasn't got any money? Tough!

What if he can't afford to stay in a hotel? Tough!

Is this really the way that travel insurance works? His insurers are a major
UK bank (or maybe their agents)and the travel insurance is part of a package
that he pays for each month.

Can anybody offer any comment?

602


Re: [MH-list] Re: Scan Guage / mpg

Nigel Owen
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris724114" <chris724114@grouply.com>
To: <motorhome-list@yahoogroups.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:50 AM
Subject: [MH-list] Re: Scan Guage / mpg


I have been advised by the distributor that the ScanGauge is not
compatible with my 2004 Ducato, though no reason was given.

ChrisC
Chris:

The reason is because the connecting block on a 2004 Ducato doesn't have
enough pins for the ScanGuage to work - I had the same problem with my 2004
Ducato.

If you search the UK distributors website (from what I recall the Forums
section) you can pull up a diagram to help identify this.

On a previous ScanGuage thread I posted a direct link to this but can't find
it at the moment.

Nigel.


[MH-list] Re: Scan Guage / mpg

chris724114 <chris724114@...>
 

I have been advised by the distributor that the ScanGauge is not
compatible with my 2004 Ducato, though no reason was given.

ChrisC



--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.co.uk, "Neill King &#92;(MH-List&#92;)"
<yahoo@...> wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: motorhome-list@yahoogroups.co.uk
[mailto:motorhome-list@yahoogroups.co.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Ramwell

"I don't have a scan gauge, but my Fiat Ducato has a MPG logger.
- I can get about 23 MPG on side roads but hammering it at 70 MPG
on the
Motorway I still get 21! - highest MPG seems to be around 25MPG
pottering
around at around 30MPG even in town!"

My (older) 2.8 didn't really settle down to a 'fully run in'
condition until
nearly 30,000 miles (yes 30K)! In fact I wouldn't say it
was 'loose' until
40K. Fuel consumption is now between 20 and nearly 30mpg. The lower
on the
motorway and the highest only when taking it very easy indeed. Like
you I
find town driving fairly economical maybe around 26mpg which is
about my
overall average.

This is in complete contrast to my car where town driving is
thirsty and
70mph cruising is very economical indeed.


Best regards

Neill
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