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Re: bottom posting? on but off topic

Voxy
 

Whether we post our bottoms, or slap it on the top, have a quick
snip, or a short back and sides, what would be really nice, is for
posters that change the subject of the original post to change the
title as well.
When following a topic/thread it is irritating to open the next post
and read about a totally different subject.... I loose my thread then!
Voxy.


Re: The way you say it

gbkaven <george@...>
 

--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com, "Colin Roberts"
<Colinrobertsnlcs@b...> wrote:
Hi to all.
When we ask for help or advice we should listen to the reply, also
listen to the experiences of others, as the best way to learn is by
other peoples mistakes, one can save many £££ this way, but always
remember when you are listening to a persons advice, it is HIS or
HERS own opinion, if you asked a 100 people the same question you may
get the same end result, but told a 100 different ways, me being a
Welshman I have a very dry sense of humour, and I often have to
remind myself not to be so sharp, as others may not have the same
sense of humour and see the funny side of things the way I do,
generally on this list I have gained invaluable information that you
will not learn from any books, also the humour has me laughing aloud,
especially from a lady who shall remain nameless, ( can anyone tell
me is the name Hilary short for Hilarious !?!?) There again some
people can tell you to get lost in such a way you can only laugh, so
let us all get the grey matter working before hitting the key board,
Air Con,
She who must be obeyed, who sits in the other seat, bought a silly,
stupid, ridiculous, useless, 12 volt fan that contained a small
bottle of water to wet the filter in 1999, at a cost of £9.99 I
think, to keep the peace we took it on holiday to the south of France
in 99, 00, 01, 02, this small fan has been the best buy EVER with
regards to hot weather, running in the car, in the camper, freeze the
water container, and cold air for 4-5 hours, on one holiday driving
through Switzerland with temps of 42c the fan ran for 3 weeks non
stop, As I said above, My grey matter was not working when I looked
at that silly fan and thought what a waste of money, it was 3 months
after she bought the fan that we used it, I was wrong, AND I HAVE
NEVER BEEN ALLOWED TO FORGET IT.
--
Colin R.......

Hello Colin


I have a much larger version of something like this but it is mains
only. I would be interested in the make & where you got this 12
volt version of product.


Thanks in advance.



Elizabeth

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Re: [MH-list] Those who "believe" as opposed to know

gbkaven <george@...>
 

--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com, John Goodman <john@g...> wrote:

Think he's finally taken the hint.
Well, you would be wrong then. Mike.

He is away in his M/H and would be a bit pissed to have to download
twaddle like this on
a mobile link

I actually miss Ian's posting, it made for lively discussion. I
see he did
post once a few days ago. In actual fact much of what he printed
was
correct, it was just the way it was said.
No, It was what others said "they" called him an idiot, Iain did
not sink to this level. Read
the archives!

I think by and large we do 'play nicely'!
Discussing someone behind their backs is not playing nice

Good manners cost nothing................ manners maketh the man
( or women)

Manners my arse! Not on this list. Iain is owed an apology in my
mind, that would be
good manners.


--
John Goodman

Hi


Personally I dont think we should critiscise other members or their
postings. Surely this would best be done privately & with care using
email.


Elizabeth


Re: [MH-list] The way you say it

Adrian Harman <adrian.harman@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin Roberts" <Colinrobertsnlcs@btopenworld.com>
To: <motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 3:59 PM
Subject: [MH-list] The way you say it

Colin wrote
Air Con,
She who must be obeyed, who sits in the other seat, bought a silly, stupid,
ridiculous, useless, 12 volt fan that contained a small bottle of water to
wet the filter in 1999, at a cost of 9.99 I think, to keep the peace we
took it on holiday to the south of France in 99, 00, 01, 02, this small fan
has been the best buy EVER with regards to hot weather, running in the car,
in the camper, freeze the water container, and cold air for 4-5 hours, on
one holiday driving through Switzerland with temps of 42c the fan ran for 3
weeks non stop,


These fans sound good do you know if they are still available

Cheers for now
Adrian



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Re: [MH-list] Digest Number 2504 why bottom posting ? the definitive answer

Alec Braithwaite
 

Message: 18
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 11:09:21 -0000
From: "bty248448" <action.replay@btopenworld.com>
Subject: Why bottom posting?
Hi Alec,
<<<I totally agree with your sentiment about snipping posts but why
bottom post? In the early days it made some sense (BTW I started in
the industry in 1973) but does it still make any difference today?>>>
------------(alec reply)----------------
Because by bottom posting you have first to climb down over all the
dross coagulating on the screen below you in order to get to the
starting point of your message .... it then becomes very apparent to
you, or to a newbie, (or should), that something wants doing about the
eye-aching mess you have just traversed ... so if you have any feelings
for others you get shut of all but the sentence(s) which you are about
to reply to.
---
Many top posters just open a message, plonk their 2 lines ripost on top
of all the shambles below and press send - and more often than not the
message they are replying to is just another top posters top few lines
..... which means that none of these culprits are aware of the mess
stretching way way down below ... which many of us have to waste good
money on during mobile downloading.
---
There you are then "bty248448" ... it is that fact, the ever increasing
'tail of dross' stretching out below, which is very often never 'taken
on board' as they say (meaning to say deleted), which is the main reason
for bottom posting .
--
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BOTTOM POST AND SNIP - YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE
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Re: [MH-list] Why bottom posting?

Adrian Harman <adrian.harman@...>
 

My wife says she'll post her bottom to anyone who'll have it as long as she
gets a smaller one in return. What's more she told me to send this,
otherwise I wouldn't have risked it
Seriously I prefer to top post as you know what it's about from the subject
and if you've been following the thread you just want to see the latest
additional info.
Cheers for now
Adrian

----- Original Message -----
From: "David McMillan" <davidmcmillan@utvinternet.com>
To: <motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [MH-list] Why bottom posting?


I second that!
----- Original Message -----
From: bty248448
To: motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 03 April 2004 12:09
Subject: [MH-list] Why bottom posting?


Hi Alec,

SNIP

I put the motion to this house that bottom posting is an anachronism
and should be put out to pasture.

Regards

Doug

>SNIP
>
> Keep happy -
> Alec alecalgo@m...
> BOTTOM POST AND SNIP - YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE
> help those who are actually out there downloading by mobile !!!




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Re: [MH-list] Digest Number 2497

Andy T <andy@...>
 

On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 14:03:20 -0000, you wrote:


Does anyone have experience of rear wheel drive motorhomes? Do
they have
better traction (like the Ford double wheel chassis used byRimor)?

Hi there

Our laika 2.1tw is on the Ford Iveco base with rear wheel drive (the
tw stands for twin rear wheels) We have never got stuck even on
muddy pitches, snow, the traction is excellent. The payload is very
large too. I can't imagine having a vehicle this size with bunks,
teenagers, 4 bikes, all the outdoor gear,windsurfer, etc, etc. on a
lesser vehicle, it has been described as a"a bit agricultural" to
drive but it seems to us suited for it's purpose!

If you want to get stuck them buy a Pilote.

never had a vehicle that gets stuck without needing any help.

Flat grass with only a sprinkling of rain and of we go again.....can I
have a push please :)

or is it Talbot express problems??
Regards Andy T



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Re: [MH-list] Why bottom posting?

Marty <camping.car@...>
 

I thought bottom posting was a sadistic practice that died out in the middle
ages......;-)
Marty.

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be taken as reflecting those of The Camper House


The way you say it

Colin Roberts
 

Hi to all.
When we ask for help or advice we should listen to the reply, also listen to the experiences of others, as the best way to learn is by other peoples mistakes, one can save many £££ this way, but always remember when you are listening to a persons advice, it is HIS or HERS own opinion, if you asked a 100 people the same question you may get the same end result, but told a 100 different ways, me being a Welshman I have a very dry sense of humour, and I often have to remind myself not to be so sharp, as others may not have the same sense of humour and see the funny side of things the way I do, generally on this list I have gained invaluable information that you will not learn from any books, also the humour has me laughing aloud, especially from a lady who shall remain nameless, ( can anyone tell me is the name Hilary short for Hilarious !?!?) There again some people can tell you to get lost in such a way you can only laugh, so let us all get the grey matter working before hitting the key board,
Air Con,
She who must be obeyed, who sits in the other seat, bought a silly, stupid, ridiculous, useless, 12 volt fan that contained a small bottle of water to wet the filter in 1999, at a cost of £9.99 I think, to keep the peace we took it on holiday to the south of France in 99, 00, 01, 02, this small fan has been the best buy EVER with regards to hot weather, running in the car, in the camper, freeze the water container, and cold air for 4-5 hours, on one holiday driving through Switzerland with temps of 42c the fan ran for 3 weeks non stop, As I said above, My grey matter was not working when I looked at that silly fan and thought what a waste of money, it was 3 months after she bought the fan that we used it, I was wrong, AND I HAVE NEVER BEEN ALLOWED TO FORGET IT.
--
Colin R.......

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Re: [MH-list] Gas attack

Brian Marsden
 

Pete D wrote
You could also ask has anyone
been mugged at all on the continent ? Given the huge numbers of owners the
percentage which are members of this list is very very small. Crime against
owners is not huge, so the chances of finding any one on the list who has
experienced any form of crime on holiday is also very small.
++++++++++++++++++++++++=
Hi Pete
A couple of years ago I had my pocket picked while waiting in a bus queue in Valencia. The bloke almost got run over making his getaway--as I felt it happening and had a go at him. He must have been well peed off with his reward---he got my empty glasses case from my back pocket--but it could just as well have been my wallet. BUT it was a lesson learned about casually carrying things about the person. I am much more aware of the dangers now that I've had a wake up call.
Regards
Brian M


Re: [MH-list] Digest Number 2497

Ruth <geoff@...>
 

Does anyone have experience of rear wheel drive motorhomes? Do
they have
better traction (like the Ford double wheel chassis used byRimor)?

Hi there

Our laika 2.1tw is on the Ford Iveco base with rear wheel drive (the
tw stands for twin rear wheels) We have never got stuck even on
muddy pitches, snow, the traction is excellent. The payload is very
large too. I can't imagine having a vehicle this size with bunks,
teenagers, 4 bikes, all the outdoor gear,windsurfer, etc, etc. on a
lesser vehicle, it has been described as a"a bit agricultural" to
drive but it seems to us suited for it's purpose!

good luck

Ruth


Re: Half-term holiday

Hilary
 

--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com, "gbkaven" <george@k...> wrote:
Nice and
sunny
(for one day at least) but had to put up with grass cutting and
strimming
for about two hours and the site has only been open a week!! What
is it with
wardens (sorry - site managers) and ride on mowers?

regards
Steve

Hi
Unfortunately grass groes & it has to be cut regularly.

Elizabeth.


I know Clumber Park - it's one of my favourite sites, but I'm jolly
glad I don't have to mow the grass there....talk about the 'Forth
Bridge' aspect! The other thing is that by keeping a visibly high
profile on I suppose a low-profile vehicle (!) is one way of
maintaining security on the site - and being seen to do so.

Hilary


Re: Half-term holiday

gbkaven <george@...>
 

--- In motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Pyke" <esspyke@l...>
wrote:
Andy wrote:
As it's the half term break for my wife next week, we think we may
go off somewhere for a few days. Does anyone know of any meets or
motorhome based activities that will be taking place over the coming
week?<<<

Don't know of any motorhome meets but it will be a busy weekend
for getting
a pitch. We tried to book a C & CC site and they are fully booked
for
service pitches over Easter. Managed to get a basic non electric
pitch
eventually. Hope the weather gets drier or we will be putting our
trackmats
and blocks to the test ;-)

We didn't even try any CC sites as they are usually booked months in
advance.

We stayed one night at Clumber Park C & CC site this week. Nice and
sunny
(for one day at least) but had to put up with grass cutting and
strimming
for about two hours and the site has only been open a week!! What
is it with
wardens (sorry - site managers) and ride on mowers?

regards
Steve
==========================
Sheila & Steve Pyke
visit our website for travel tips and hints
www.motorhomeandaway.co.uk
=========================
Hi


Unfortunately grass groes & it has to be cut regularly.



Elizabeth.


Re: [MH-list] Digest Number 2502 re message 12 ... I support Iain ....not the 'idiot' brandisher !

John Clemence
 

"if he should go back over these postings, he will have the common
sense to let sleeping dogs lie. There is no advantage gained for
anyone in starting arguments, so it might be a good idea to finish
this one now without raking over the cold ashes.
Hilary"

Here here Hilary I second that motion.
John.


Re: [MH-list] Why bottom posting?

Andy Clarke <andy@...>
 

On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 11:09:21 -0000, bty248448 wrote:

Hi Alec,

I totally agree with your sentiment about snipping posts but why
bottom post? In the early days it made some sense (BTW I started in
the industry in 1973) but does it still make any difference today?

I use the thread option when browsing this list and in my offline
reader. All that bottom posting means is scrolling all the way to the
bottom of a mailing to find a 2 or 3 word reply. Bottom posting means
you have to go to the bottom, scroll up to find what they are talking
about, then read forwards again ad nauseum.
<snip>

More important than top or bottom posting is to trim the original message
so that only relevant parts are included. I agree that it is very
irritating to have to scroll down a lot of irrelevant text to see a short
reply.

The problem with top posting is that it is illogical to read a reply
before a question. It also makes people lazy about trimming the original
text, it's too easy just to make a reply and leave all the original in
place.

Having said all that, I don't mind which way up people post as long as
they have something relevant to say!

I don't want to get into a long winded discussion of the merits of top or
bottom posting, my personal preference is to bottom post, or interleave a
reply within the original text, but as far as the Motorhome List is
concerned, I don't propose to enforce any rules about it.

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Re: [MH-list] Why bottom posting?

Buff Eagle <buff@...>
 

BOTTOM POST AND SNIP - YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE
help those who are actually out there downloading by mobile !!!
This has been debated thoroughly before and I believe Andy asked us to snip
down to the bare bones and then post our reply underneath. You only need
leave a very small relevant part of what you are replying to (just to jog
our memories), and then post your response. We shouldn't have to scroll
down to see the reply.

Buff :0)


Re: [MH-list] Why bottom posting?

Mike Shepherd <mike.shepherd1@...>
 

Me too

Mike

-----Original Message-----


Re: [MH-list] Why bottom posting?

David McMillan
 

I second that!

----- Original Message -----
From: bty248448
To: motorhome-list@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 03 April 2004 12:09
Subject: [MH-list] Why bottom posting?


Hi Alec,

SNIP

I put the motion to this house that bottom posting is an anachronism
and should be put out to pasture.

Regards

Doug

>SNIP
>
> Keep happy -
> Alec alecalgo@m...
> BOTTOM POST AND SNIP - YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE
> help those who are actually out there downloading by mobile !!!




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Back from Spain [was: Gas attack]

Andy Clarke <andy@...>
 

On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 21:10:58 -0000, corconx wrote:


Back from Spain - and don't ask.... disasters all the way....but
another time when I have time from sorting out everything.
Welcome back Carol :-)

Oh and a belated Happy New Year to all, and I look forward to
heaving how everyone else is getting on.
And a Happy New Year to you and Duncan too!

When you've recovered a bit from your trip I'm sure others would be
interested in your 'experiences' in getting repairs done (or not) in
Spain & France...

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Re: [MH-list] Why bottom posting?

Keith & Tamar <keith@...>
 

Doug,

I could pull rank on you, as I started in the software business in the
sixties.

In the course a normal work day, I handle more 100 emails. In 90% of the
cases there is no need (or time) to read all the history, so I cast my vote
in favor of the resolution!

Keith & Tamar in Israel


<snip>

In the early days it made some sense (BTW I started in
the industry in 1973) but does it still make any difference today?

I put the motion to this house that bottom posting is an anachronism
and should be put out to pasture.

Regards

Doug

SNIP

Keep happy -
Alec alecalgo@m...
BOTTOM POST AND SNIP - YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE
help those who are actually out there downloading by mobile !!!

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