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Re: EU Roaming Charges

Carol Weaver
 

How does that help?

On Mon, 9 May 2022 at 18:41, pj_home via groups.io <paul.f.jackson=virgin.net@groups.io> wrote:
Still got my good ol GPS unit for that very reason!

On 09/05/2022 17:38, Alan Morris wrote:
> On Mon, 9 May 2022 at 07:08, David Scholes via groups.io
> <scholesd=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
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>> In other words, it costs £2 per day in addition to it comes out of your own data allowance and it is charged automatically as soon as you use any data like when you try to navigate to the local supermarket on google maps
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> Maybe an increase in sales of good ol' GPS receivers!
>
> Alan
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Re: EU Roaming Charges

Carol Weaver
 

Mick when did you last go?

I have 100GB ON Vodafone  and Duncan 60GB on Smarty. He uses little. 

Mine will expire end November it was two years and I have been into my local shop and they said do not change your contract. When it’s up come in and chat to us  I have a business account

Carol

On Mon, 9 May 2022 at 19:31, Mick Potter via groups.io <mick.potter=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
I thought that my experience might be of interest in this discussion.

I'm with TescoMobile, which uses the O2 network.

When we're at home, we use very little non-WiFi internet, but we go away for 6-8 weeks at a time to Europe in our 'van, a couple of times a year, and then our usage increases significantly.

When my last contract expired, I waited to see what the different networks did with regard to roaming charges.  I saw that O2 and Tesco were not charging for roaming, so I took out a two year contract, hoping that if things changed I would at least get free roaming until the end of the contract.

As I had occasionally had to buy extra data while travelling (and 'extra' data is always expensive), I went high: 30 GB for me, and 12 GB for my wife, on a 'family discount'.  Also, when I had taken out a previous contract, I was given a free 6 month trial for Tesco Plus - this gives 10% off two shops per month plus a few other discounts, and *double data* on one phone account. 

The Tesco Plus now costs £7.99 per month, but it is not difficult to get two shops to total more than £80 in a month to recoup this, so it is effectively free (unless I'm out of the country for the whole month, which happens occasionally!).

So, for £20.50 per month we get 12GB plus 60GB, with free roaming in the 'Home from Home' countries.  I think this is pretty good value, especially if you use Tesco anyway.

HTH

Mick
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On Monday, 9 May 2022, 17:42:01 BST, pj_home via groups.io <paul.f.jackson=virgin.net@groups.io> wrote:


Still got my good ol GPS unit for that very reason!

On 09/05/2022 17:38, Alan Morris wrote:
> On Mon, 9 May 2022 at 07:08, David Scholes via groups.io
> <scholesd=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
>> In other words, it costs £2 per day in addition to it comes out of your own data allowance and it is charged automatically as soon as you use any data like when you try to navigate to the local supermarket on google maps
>
> Maybe an increase in sales of good ol' GPS receivers!
>
> Alan
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Re: EU Roaming Charges

Mick Potter
 

I thought that my experience might be of interest in this discussion.

I'm with TescoMobile, which uses the O2 network.

When we're at home, we use very little non-WiFi internet, but we go away for 6-8 weeks at a time to Europe in our 'van, a couple of times a year, and then our usage increases significantly.

When my last contract expired, I waited to see what the different networks did with regard to roaming charges.  I saw that O2 and Tesco were not charging for roaming, so I took out a two year contract, hoping that if things changed I would at least get free roaming until the end of the contract.

As I had occasionally had to buy extra data while travelling (and 'extra' data is always expensive), I went high: 30 GB for me, and 12 GB for my wife, on a 'family discount'.  Also, when I had taken out a previous contract, I was given a free 6 month trial for Tesco Plus - this gives 10% off two shops per month plus a few other discounts, and *double data* on one phone account. 

The Tesco Plus now costs £7.99 per month, but it is not difficult to get two shops to total more than £80 in a month to recoup this, so it is effectively free (unless I'm out of the country for the whole month, which happens occasionally!).

So, for £20.50 per month we get 12GB plus 60GB, with free roaming in the 'Home from Home' countries.  I think this is pretty good value, especially if you use Tesco anyway.

HTH

Mick
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mick.potter@....

Any others you may find are likely to be temporary, or to have been discontinued.
I should hate to miss anything you send me.  Thanks.


On Monday, 9 May 2022, 17:42:01 BST, pj_home via groups.io <paul.f.jackson@...> wrote:


Still got my good ol GPS unit for that very reason!

On 09/05/2022 17:38, Alan Morris wrote:
> On Mon, 9 May 2022 at 07:08, David Scholes via groups.io
> <scholesd=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
>> In other words, it costs £2 per day in addition to it comes out of your own data allowance and it is charged automatically as soon as you use any data like when you try to navigate to the local supermarket on google maps
>
> Maybe an increase in sales of good ol' GPS receivers!
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
>

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Regards

Paul






Re: EU Roaming Charges

pj_home <paul.f.jackson@...>
 

Still got my good ol GPS unit for that very reason!

On 09/05/2022 17:38, Alan Morris wrote:
On Mon, 9 May 2022 at 07:08, David Scholes via groups.io
<scholesd@...> wrote:

In other words, it costs £2 per day in addition to it comes out of your own data allowance and it is charged automatically as soon as you use any data like when you try to navigate to the local supermarket on google maps
Maybe an increase in sales of good ol' GPS receivers!
Alan
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Re: EU Roaming Charges

Alan Morris
 

On Mon, 9 May 2022 at 07:08, David Scholes via groups.io
<scholesd@...> wrote:

In other words, it costs £2 per day in addition to it comes out of your own data allowance and it is charged automatically as soon as you use any data like when you try to navigate to the local supermarket on google maps
Maybe an increase in sales of good ol' GPS receivers!

Alan


Re: EU Roaming Charges

Phil
 

Also OK with Plusnet Mobile - they are also no EU roaming charges.

Plus monthly charges are a lot lower and all on 30 day contracts - top get the good rates on O2 you need to sign for 24 months

I have unlimited calls and text plus 30Gb for £10 per month

Phil


Re: EU Roaming Charges

yorkcov
 

I am in Portugal at the moment and Smarty do have a 12gb fair use limit


On 8 May 2022 14:53:38 WEST, "Steve via groups.io" <vancamping@...> wrote:
02 are advertising that they will not be reintroducing roaming charges.

A friend who has a house in Portugal but is not resident has been getting hassle from Vodafone for excessive use while abroad. He has just bought a Smarty sim with unlimited calls & texts and 60 GB data for £10/month and no limits to use abroad. Smarty is part of Hutchison/Three. 
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Re: EU Roaming Charges

David Scholes
 

This is the current deal from 3. I suspect that it will be the same with Smarty and virtually the same with all the others.

For a fixed daily charge, set out below, our Advanced Plans allow you to use your UK allowance in any of our Go Roam destinations to contact a UK number (starting 01, 02, 03 or a standard UK mobile). You can also use your UK allowance in a Go Roam in Europe destination to make calls to standard landline or mobile numbers in other Go Roam in Europe destinations. Fair use policies apply - see page 21.
The daily charge to unlock your UK allowance:
Go Roam in Europe destinations - £2. Go Roam Around the World destinations - £5.
The daily charge will automatically be applied to your bill as soon as you make a chargeable event (such as your device accessing data services, or you make an outbound call or send a text). If we are unable to process your daily charge (such as you reaching your credit limit, or your account not being in good standing) you will be unable to unlock your UK allowance in the Go Roam destination.
It’s free to receive calls, texts, photo messages and video messages when in a Go Roam destination on our Advanced Plans.

In other words, it costs £2 per day in addition to it comes out of your own data allowance and it is charged automatically as soon as you use any data like when you try to navigate to the local supermarket on google maps

David


On 8 May 2022, at 20:41, Steve via groups.io <vancamping@...> wrote:

I should have been clearer, by abroad I meant the EU, referring to my friend in Portugal.

From Smarty:

"EU Roaming

Use your SMARTY plan anywhere in the EU

  • If your plan includes calls and texts, they work just like home. They’re unlimited with no extra fees.
  • Subject to our fair use limit, you can use up to 12GB of data each month. Data comes out your monthly allowance or data add-ons.
  • No hidden charges. No extra costs."
As I said, Smarty is part of Hutchison/Three.


Re: EU Roaming Charges

Steve
 

I should have been clearer, by abroad I meant the EU, referring to my friend in Portugal.

From Smarty:

"EU Roaming

Use your SMARTY plan anywhere in the EU

  • If your plan includes calls and texts, they work just like home. They’re unlimited with no extra fees.
  • Subject to our fair use limit, you can use up to 12GB of data each month. Data comes out your monthly allowance or data add-ons.
  • No hidden charges. No extra costs."
As I said, Smarty is part of Hutchison/Three.


Re: EU Roaming Charges

David Scholes
 

I would be surprised if some enterprising person like carphone warehouse but from the south of Ireland wasn’t selling such sims to the English already.

David


On 8 May 2022, at 19:10, Tim Sagar via groups.io <t.sagar761@...> wrote:


Even Smarty have 12gb fair use limit. I understand there is a payg sim you can buy from le clerc, that doesn't require you to be domicile in france.

On 8 May 2022 14:53, "Steve via groups.io" <vancamping@...> wrote:
02 are advertising that they will not be reintroducing roaming charges.

A friend who has a house in Portugal but is not resident has been getting hassle from Vodafone for excessive use while abroad. He has just bought a Smarty sim with unlimited calls & texts and 60 GB data for £10/month and no limits to use abroad. Smarty is part of Hutchison/Three. 


Re: EU Roaming Charges

Tim Sagar
 

Even Smarty have 12gb fair use limit. I understand there is a payg sim you can buy from le clerc, that doesn't require you to be domicile in france.

On 8 May 2022 14:53, "Steve via groups.io" <vancamping@...> wrote:
02 are advertising that they will not be reintroducing roaming charges.

A friend who has a house in Portugal but is not resident has been getting hassle from Vodafone for excessive use while abroad. He has just bought a Smarty sim with unlimited calls & texts and 60 GB data for £10/month and no limits to use abroad. Smarty is part of Hutchison/Three. 


Re: EU Roaming Charges

David Scholes
 

Hi
The last information i had from 3 said that everything remained normal until about July when free roaming in the EU would end completely
And be replaced by ‘a simple daily charge for roaming’.
As far as i understood the others of the big 4 were doing the same but a little earlier.
All of this they claimed was because of brexit. As we are outside of the EU they no longer HAVE to do it so they aren’t.

David

On 8 May 2022, at 16:49, Alan Morris <alan.g4ens@...> wrote:

On Sun, 8 May 2022 at 13:07, Brian Reay via groups.io
<g8osn@...> wrote:

We have three Three contracts, 2 mobile phones and an internet one which predate the deadline. I'm counting on the old rules applying- I took the internet contract out specifically for the motorhome. I have a 4G router in the motorhome, plus a switch, a NAS, and a media server etc to use with a Firestick.
I did have two PAYG phones with Three and both are still active,
however mainly used only for receiving phone calls. One is our SMS
number registered with everyone that needs to text us. Mainly
delivery companies but also our GP.

The Three phone on a £5 a month contract was cancelled when it's cost
was increased (see previous posting in this thread) and is now on iD
(piggybacked on Three) at £6 a month, which is not unreasonable. But
the 4GB data with Three was lost at the end of the month. Now with
iD, it's still 4GB a month but overflows to the following month. So
effectively 8GB a month.

For all of our BB, I have a B535 4G Mi-Fi at home running on mains
with a 12 volt PSU. Could be used in the motorhome, but I also have
two battery (3G and 4G) Mi-Fis.

Don't count on the old rules applying as the T&Cs have been changed
with Three. It will now cost MORE !

Alan.





Re: EU Roaming Charges

Alan Morris
 

On Sun, 8 May 2022 at 13:07, Brian Reay via groups.io
<g8osn@...> wrote:

We have three Three contracts, 2 mobile phones and an internet one which predate the deadline. I'm counting on the old rules applying- I took the internet contract out specifically for the motorhome. I have a 4G router in the motorhome, plus a switch, a NAS, and a media server etc to use with a Firestick.
I did have two PAYG phones with Three and both are still active,
however mainly used only for receiving phone calls. One is our SMS
number registered with everyone that needs to text us. Mainly
delivery companies but also our GP.

The Three phone on a £5 a month contract was cancelled when it's cost
was increased (see previous posting in this thread) and is now on iD
(piggybacked on Three) at £6 a month, which is not unreasonable. But
the 4GB data with Three was lost at the end of the month. Now with
iD, it's still 4GB a month but overflows to the following month. So
effectively 8GB a month.

For all of our BB, I have a B535 4G Mi-Fi at home running on mains
with a 12 volt PSU. Could be used in the motorhome, but I also have
two battery (3G and 4G) Mi-Fis.

Don't count on the old rules applying as the T&Cs have been changed
with Three. It will now cost MORE !

Alan.


Re: EU Roaming Charges

Carol Weaver
 

There is a limit abroad.  They use 3

Carol

On Sun, 8 May 2022 at 15:53, Steve via groups.io <vancamping=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
02 are advertising that they will not be reintroducing roaming charges.

A friend who has a house in Portugal but is not resident has been getting hassle from Vodafone for excessive use while abroad. He has just bought a Smarty sim with unlimited calls & texts and 60 GB data for £10/month and no limits to use abroad. Smarty is part of Hutchison/Three. 

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Re: EU Roaming Charges

Steve
 

02 are advertising that they will not be reintroducing roaming charges.

A friend who has a house in Portugal but is not resident has been getting hassle from Vodafone for excessive use while abroad. He has just bought a Smarty sim with unlimited calls & texts and 60 GB data for £10/month and no limits to use abroad. Smarty is part of Hutchison/Three. 


Re: EU Roaming Charges

Brian Reay
 

As I understand it, the same applies (may be with different dates) to Three. 

We have three Three contracts, 2 mobile phones and an internet one which predate the deadline.  I'm counting on the old rules applying- I took the internet contract out specifically for the motorhome. I have a 4G router in the motorhome, plus a switch, a NAS, and a media server etc to use with a Firestick. 



Brian


Re: Awful!

Mike
 

Reminded me of a friend’s Oh so perfect & extremely highly educated & pampered daughter who lost her 10day old car to the tides at Pendine 3 days after passing her driving test – still struggle to stifle a grin

 

Mike Kemp

 

From: motorhome-list@groups.io <motorhome-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of Brent
Sent: 29 April 2022 07:57
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [motorhome-list] Awful!

 

Hi David/All
Not very nice for those concerned but surely only an idiot would drive a 3T+ vehicle that far out on soft sand!!?


Re: Awful!

timsinc Sinclair
 

When I saw this, I thought that's an old news story. Then seeing the
paper's date realised I must have been remembering a very similar
report and photo from a few years back.

Like seeing photos of motorhome roofs taken off under a low bridge...
"idiots" is an understandable instant judgment.

But I've been stuck in sand. Luckily on a Spanish campsite where a
fellow camper helped to dig me out. I've taken a rooflight off when I
missed seeing a low barrier at a supermarket entrance. Thirty years
ago on my second outing in my unuse-to-handling first van, I slipped
down a country ditch and part demolished a farmer's wall.

TimS

On 29/04/2022, Alan Morris <alan.g4ens@...> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 at 06:57, Brent <brentiow.c@...> wrote:

Not very nice for those concerned but surely only an idiot would drive a
3T+ vehicle that far out on soft sand!!?
That was my initial thought Brent, but decided not to comment in fear
of getting told-off. Even the cameraman could not stand upright!

It possesses the question: is the driver fit to hold a driving licence?

My previous motorhome was a 4x4 with central difflock and off-road
tyres. It also had a winch with a 'ground anchor' that could have
been used to pull my vehicle out of difficult situations. With my
extensive off-road skills I would never have gone onto soft sand.

Note: A 'ground anchor' is a device that digs into the sand and goes
deeper if the ground is soft. So something for the winch to pull
against.

Alan.





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Re: Awful!

kenny.macdougall
 

Hi All
Wee all do silly things, i put the front of my MH over the embankment i put my foot on the throttle instead of the break what a plonher, it was a mile from my home the locals thought it was very funny so they put it on face book for all to see. I have a HGV and psv me all do strange things in life.
Kenny
Skye

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From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Morris
Sent: 29 April 2022 16:11 Subject: Re: [motorhome-list] Awful!

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 at 06:57, Brent <brentiow.c@...> wrote:

Not very nice for those concerned but surely only an idiot would drive a 3T+ vehicle that far out on soft sand!!?
That was my initial thought Brent, but decided not to comment in fear
of getting told-off. Even the cameraman could not stand upright!

It possesses the question: is the driver fit to hold a driving licence?

My previous motorhome was a 4x4 with central difflock and off-road
tyres. It also had a winch with a 'ground anchor' that could have
been used to pull my vehicle out of difficult situations. With my
extensive off-road skills I would never have gone onto soft sand.

Note: A 'ground anchor' is a device that digs into the sand and goes
deeper if the ground is soft. So something for the winch to pull
against.

Alan.


Re: Awful!

Alan Morris
 

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 at 06:57, Brent <brentiow.c@...> wrote:

Not very nice for those concerned but surely only an idiot would drive a 3T+ vehicle that far out on soft sand!!?
That was my initial thought Brent, but decided not to comment in fear
of getting told-off. Even the cameraman could not stand upright!

It possesses the question: is the driver fit to hold a driving licence?

My previous motorhome was a 4x4 with central difflock and off-road
tyres. It also had a winch with a 'ground anchor' that could have
been used to pull my vehicle out of difficult situations. With my
extensive off-road skills I would never have gone onto soft sand.

Note: A 'ground anchor' is a device that digs into the sand and goes
deeper if the ground is soft. So something for the winch to pull
against.

Alan.

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