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Car insurance renewal

Don Madge
 

Got our renewal quote from LV for our 19 plate Honda Jazz. It's up 38% on last year to £292. It was a lot more than we expected.
I got a quote from Go Compare with the same company (LV) which was only £9 cheaper. 

I also tried Direct Line £408 and NFU who refused to quote. 

Any suggestions will be most welcome.

Don


Re: End of ADAC Plus? - Replacement??

Carol Weaver
 

Same situation with us. Comfort plus breakdown and car still ok until March with ADAC but insurance not due until April. So May keep fingers crossed W that month and do it combined next year. 

On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 at 18:23, Neill King &#92;(MH-List&#92;) <yahoo@...> wrote:

Of note for drivers of pre-2007 vehicles; Green flag will not (no longer?) cover Europe for vehicles 16 years old on extra premium (or 11 years on standard premium).

 

Given the current situation any forward strategic planning about breakdown insurance ought maybe to cover 12 or more years so pretty much rules out the pre-2006/7 chassis.  Although not likely to affect many of the regular posters here - we do still get regular enquires here for bits for 80s-90s-00s vehicles so plainly of concern for some.

 

There’s also a potential catch under the section for motorhome limits where it says “Minibuses and transit size vans are specifically excluded from cover”.  That could mean that if your Ducato-Transit-Sprinter-Movano etc PVC  isn’t  listed as a ‘motorcaravan’ on the ‘V5’ you could run into difficulties. This V5 listing topic has been discussed here in the past.

 

Increasingly looks like we’ll go with a Comfort add-on and separate cover for the car which is likely to be UK only - but since it is mostly driven by Dilys and also with me being rather indisposed at times, it will need to cover almost all eventualities.

 

And ADAC did all this easily, even when sending out  the AA or RAC on their behalf.

 

What fun it is going to be now!

 

 

Best regards

Neill   (Neill is deaf and doesn’t use the phone)
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From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of peter walker via groups.io
Sent: 15 June 2020 14:49
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [motorhome-list] End of ADAC Plus? - Replacement??

 

Hi Neil,

I find that green flag is the cheapest through the c&MC.

Not had to use them in anger though.

Was rac arrival but got very expensive and last time I used them we were left stranded for around 12 hours.

Pete

 

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 13:33, Carol Weaver

<corconx@...> wrote:

Motorhome with Comfort with b/down. Car not and needs sorting 

 

There’s a need for an ADAC like policy inUK

 

CAROL

 

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 13:01, Neill King &#92;(MH-List&#92;) <yahoo@...> wrote:

Hi all you ADAC-ers, is there any consensus yet on the best/better replacements for ADAC Plus - for either just UK or for Europe?

 

Before ADAC we had a 5-person personal with RAC Arrival via CCC but that looks very expensive now especially for just 2 or 3 people. We never qualified for the ex civil service deal elsewhere.

 

I can say I’d like something more motorhome / touring specific that the ‘freebies’ include with bank accounts say. I’m also reluctant to tie breakdown cover to insurance, we’ve often found we wanted to go in different directions on those!

 

Any up to date news welcome!

 

 

Best regards

Neill   (Neill is deaf and doesn’t use the phone)
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neill@... motorcaravanning@...

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Re: End of ADAC Plus? - Replacement??

Neill King \(MH-List\)
 

Of note for drivers of pre-2007 vehicles; Green flag will not (no longer?) cover Europe for vehicles 16 years old on extra premium (or 11 years on standard premium).

 

Given the current situation any forward strategic planning about breakdown insurance ought maybe to cover 12 or more years so pretty much rules out the pre-2006/7 chassis.  Although not likely to affect many of the regular posters here - we do still get regular enquires here for bits for 80s-90s-00s vehicles so plainly of concern for some.

 

There’s also a potential catch under the section for motorhome limits where it says “Minibuses and transit size vans are specifically excluded from cover”.  That could mean that if your Ducato-Transit-Sprinter-Movano etc PVC  isn’t  listed as a ‘motorcaravan’ on the ‘V5’ you could run into difficulties. This V5 listing topic has been discussed here in the past.

 

Increasingly looks like we’ll go with a Comfort add-on and separate cover for the car which is likely to be UK only - but since it is mostly driven by Dilys and also with me being rather indisposed at times, it will need to cover almost all eventualities.

 

And ADAC did all this easily, even when sending out  the AA or RAC on their behalf.

 

What fun it is going to be now!

 

 

Best regards

Neill   (Neill is deaf and doesn’t use the phone)
--------------------------------------------------------------
www.motorcaravanning.co.uk 01789-778825 551345165

neill@... motorcaravanning@...

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
On-line motorhome parts & accessory shop with added information

 

 

 

 

From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of peter walker via groups.io
Sent: 15 June 2020 14:49
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [motorhome-list] End of ADAC Plus? - Replacement??

 

Hi Neil,

I find that green flag is the cheapest through the c&MC.

Not had to use them in anger though.

Was rac arrival but got very expensive and last time I used them we were left stranded for around 12 hours.

Pete

 

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 13:33, Carol Weaver

<corconx@...> wrote:

Motorhome with Comfort with b/down. Car not and needs sorting 

 

There’s a need for an ADAC like policy inUK

 

CAROL

 

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 13:01, Neill King &#92;(MH-List&#92;) <yahoo@...> wrote:

Hi all you ADAC-ers, is there any consensus yet on the best/better replacements for ADAC Plus - for either just UK or for Europe?

 

Before ADAC we had a 5-person personal with RAC Arrival via CCC but that looks very expensive now especially for just 2 or 3 people. We never qualified for the ex civil service deal elsewhere.

 

I can say I’d like something more motorhome / touring specific that the ‘freebies’ include with bank accounts say. I’m also reluctant to tie breakdown cover to insurance, we’ve often found we wanted to go in different directions on those!

 

Any up to date news welcome!

 

 

Best regards

Neill   (Neill is deaf and doesn’t use the phone)
--------------------------------------------------------------
www.motorcaravanning.co.uk 01789-778825 551345165

neill@... motorcaravanning@...

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Re: End of ADAC Plus? - Replacement??

Neill King \(MH-List\)
 

It might be possible to recover damaged-by-flattening-batteries using a smart charger that has a 'recovery' function / mode - often some kind of pulse action.

Best regards

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-----Original Message-----
From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Morris
Sent: 16 June 2020 17:17
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [motorhome-list] End of ADAC Plus? - Replacement??

On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 at 08:59, Steve Pyke via groups.io
<esspyke=lineone.net@groups.io> wrote:

(I've since bought one of those compact jump starter lithium battery packs. Not needed it yet but may do as neither vehicle has moved for three months!)
Steve it's possibly too late now but both vehicles starter batteries
are probably now useless, due to being discharged for too long.

You could attempt to recover them by charging them ASAP. Expect to
replace both batteries. I'm not sure how your compact jump start
system works, but I understand that they require a flat battery to be
in a reasonable condition. The jump device probably gives the starter
battery a fast boost so that it can provide some current to help in
starting.

Alan.


Re: End of ADAC Plus? - Replacement??

Alan Morris
 

On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 at 08:59, Steve Pyke via groups.io
<esspyke=lineone.net@groups.io> wrote:

(I've since bought one of those compact jump starter lithium battery packs. Not needed it yet but may do as neither vehicle has moved for three months!)
Steve it's possibly too late now but both vehicles starter batteries
are probably now useless, due to being discharged for too long.

You could attempt to recover them by charging them ASAP. Expect to
replace both batteries. I'm not sure how your compact jump start
system works, but I understand that they require a flat battery to be
in a reasonable condition. The jump device probably gives the starter
battery a fast boost so that it can provide some current to help in
starting.

Alan.


Re: End of ADAC Plus? - Replacement??

Steve Pyke
 

Hi,

We have Comfort insurance including breakdown cover which is now run by DAS so who would come out if needed is anybody's guess. We haven't needed it so far.

For the car, once the maker's (Hyundai) five year cover ran out we used Start Rescue for about £40 a year, and cheaper through a cashback site, for UK only. They do short term EU cover. Only used them once for a flat battery - door not shut properly when car left for two days at a station. A local garage came out in half an hour so reasonable service we thought.
It's an insurance based scheme but we didn't have to pay and claim back like some.

(I've since bought one of those compact jump starter lithium battery packs. Not needed it yet but may do as neither vehicle has moved for three months!)

I believe CMC's Mayday service which used to be Green Flag only covered UK as they expect you to buy their Red Pennant package when going abroad.

Who owns what these days?

We aren't planning to go abroad this year.

Take care

Steve


Re: End of ADAC Plus? - Replacement??

Alan Morris
 

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 12:33, Carol Weaver <corconx@...> wrote:

Motorhome with Comfort with b/down. Car not and needs sorting

There’s a need for an ADAC like policy inUK
Our motorhome is also insured with Comfort, but with the end of ADAC,
as SORN has no breakdown cover. The new car, with about 2 1/2 miles
since new on March 19th, has it's maker's cover.

As for a UK ADAC, the AA and RAC in their original form no longer
exist: only as names for different companies. Both having a poor
record for slow attendance when requested.

Alan.


Re: End of ADAC Plus? - Replacement??

peter walker
 

Hi Neil,
I find that green flag is the cheapest through the c&MC.
Not had to use them in anger though.
Was rac arrival but got very expensive and last time I used them we were left stranded for around 12 hours.
Pete


On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 13:33, Carol Weaver
<corconx@...> wrote:
Motorhome with Comfort with b/down. Car not and needs sorting 

There’s a need for an ADAC like policy inUK

CAROL

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 13:01, Neill King &#92;(MH-List&#92;) <yahoo@...> wrote:

Hi all you ADAC-ers, is there any consensus yet on the best/better replacements for ADAC Plus - for either just UK or for Europe?

 

Before ADAC we had a 5-person personal with RAC Arrival via CCC but that looks very expensive now especially for just 2 or 3 people. We never qualified for the ex civil service deal elsewhere.

 

I can say I’d like something more motorhome / touring specific that the ‘freebies’ include with bank accounts say. I’m also reluctant to tie breakdown cover to insurance, we’ve often found we wanted to go in different directions on those!

 

Any up to date news welcome!

 

 

Best regards

Neill   (Neill is deaf and doesn’t use the phone)
--------------------------------------------------------------
www.motorcaravanning.co.uk 01789-778825 551345165

neill@... motorcaravanning@...

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
On-line motorhome parts & accessory shop with added information

 

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Re: End of ADAC Plus? - Replacement??

Carol Weaver
 

Motorhome with Comfort with b/down. Car not and needs sorting 

There’s a need for an ADAC like policy inUK

CAROL

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 13:01, Neill King &#92;(MH-List&#92;) <yahoo@...> wrote:

Hi all you ADAC-ers, is there any consensus yet on the best/better replacements for ADAC Plus - for either just UK or for Europe?

 

Before ADAC we had a 5-person personal with RAC Arrival via CCC but that looks very expensive now especially for just 2 or 3 people. We never qualified for the ex civil service deal elsewhere.

 

I can say I’d like something more motorhome / touring specific that the ‘freebies’ include with bank accounts say. I’m also reluctant to tie breakdown cover to insurance, we’ve often found we wanted to go in different directions on those!

 

Any up to date news welcome!

 

 

Best regards

Neill   (Neill is deaf and doesn’t use the phone)
--------------------------------------------------------------
www.motorcaravanning.co.uk 01789-778825 551345165

neill@... motorcaravanning@...

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End of ADAC Plus? - Replacement??

Neill King \(MH-List\)
 

Hi all you ADAC-ers, is there any consensus yet on the best/better replacements for ADAC Plus - for either just UK or for Europe?

 

Before ADAC we had a 5-person personal with RAC Arrival via CCC but that looks very expensive now especially for just 2 or 3 people. We never qualified for the ex civil service deal elsewhere.

 

I can say I’d like something more motorhome / touring specific that the ‘freebies’ include with bank accounts say. I’m also reluctant to tie breakdown cover to insurance, we’ve often found we wanted to go in different directions on those!

 

Any up to date news welcome!

 

 

Best regards

Neill   (Neill is deaf and doesn’t use the phone)
--------------------------------------------------------------
www.motorcaravanning.co.uk 01789-778825 551345165

neill@... motorcaravanning@...

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
On-line motorhome parts & accessory shop with added information

 


Re: Travel to Europe in Motorhome

Andy Clarke
 

Travel insurance may not be valid as I think the FO still advises against all but essential travel outside the UK.

Andy Clarke

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 12:52, Mick Potter <mickpotter@...> wrote:
From BBC News today, Monday:

"Germany, Belgium, Croatia and Switzerland are fully reopening borders with EU countries on Monday.

Travellers from the UK will be able to visit these four countries without quarantine or restrictions upon arrival, though they still face quarantine on return to the UK."

So, if you can get a ferry to Ostend, you can have a travelling holiday around three countries, with the disadvantage of having to quarantine at home for a fortnight afterwards.  If the trip is long enough, the rules about quarantine may have changed by the time you get back.

Mick


Travel to Europe in Motorhome

Mick Potter
 

From BBC News today, Monday:

"Germany, Belgium, Croatia and Switzerland are fully reopening borders with EU countries on Monday.

Travellers from the UK will be able to visit these four countries without quarantine or restrictions upon arrival, though they still face quarantine on return to the UK."

So, if you can get a ferry to Ostend, you can have a travelling holiday around three countries, with the disadvantage of having to quarantine at home for a fortnight afterwards.  If the trip is long enough, the rules about quarantine may have changed by the time you get back.

Mick


Daily update from GOV.UK

Carol Weaver
 

Further update re France

Looks like 14 days quarantine IS still currently needed

Carol

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Re: Greece

Neill King \(MH-List\)
 

Greece is fine but they don’t see us in the UK as being the same.

 

29th May Guardian online

“Britain left off 'safe list' of countries free to holiday in Greece. UK fails to fit epidemiological profile demanded by Athens, which has kept Covid-19 in check”.

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2020/may/29/britain-left-off-safe-list-of-countries-free-to-holiday-in-greece

 

All may change in the coming days and weeks of course.

 

 

 

Best regards

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From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Nick
Sent: 04 June 2020 11:37
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [motorhome-list] Greece

 

After reading all that it seems to me that Greece has it fairly well sorted. The only problem that I see is being able to get there in the motorhome in the first place until other countries in between relax travel restrictions.

Nick.


Re: Greece

Nick
 

After reading all that it seems to me that Greece has it fairly well sorted. The only problem that I see is being able to get there in the motorhome in the first place until other countries in between relax travel restrictions.

Nick.


Re: Greece

Brent
 

I thought I heard/read somewhere that Greece wasn't letting anyone from UK enter?
Best wishes, stay safe, Brent overcast & cooler IoW


Greece

Carol Weaver
 

Below is a copy from FB as I recall someone has to collect their Motorhome from there 
Where they had to leave it in a hurry a few months ago

Hope it’s useful

Posted on Facebook by Maggie Bevis

some info that's been given to camp site owners in Greece;

The Greek Tourism Ministry has released the health protocols that are to be applied in organized tourist campsites across the country for their safe reopening and operation in the aftermath of the COVID-19 pandemic.

According to the ministry’s  the ‘Restart Tourism’ plan, campsites are scheduled to open on June 1

According to these protocols, every campsite is obliged to draw up an operational plan for the management of suspected Covid-19 cases that must include:

A description of the coronavirus symptoms.

The 1135 emergency number.

Instructions for the temporary isolation of the incident in a camper trailer or in a room with natural ventilation.

Information about the use of a surgical mask, protective glasses, footwear, a waterproof apron with long sleeves and gloves by everyone entering the temporary isolation area.

The contact details of Greece’s National Center for Emergency Care – EKAV, the health facility that will accept the incident and the health service responsible for the campsite.

Furthermore, a report of all the patient’s contacts must be provided to health authorities.

The incidents as well as the measures applied must be documented in the COVID-19 Incident Book of the campsite, which will be kept by a health coordinator to be appointed by the campsite’s management.

📷

PROTECTION & INFORMATION

– The campsite must provide its staff with personal protective equipment.

– The campsite must inform its customers about their obligation to follow protective measures against COVID-19.

– Permanent customers, tour operators, relevant associations and customers that have made or plan to make a reservation via e-mail, must be informed about the health operation protocol. Instructions must also be posted on the campsite’s official website or social media.

– The health protocols and relevant instructions must also be available in public areas (entrance, reception area etc.) or on printed material.

– It is recommended that campsites update their websites with a dedicated COVID-19 section, which will include information on the applied health protocols, instructions, measures, policy etc., with links leading to the Greek government’s official dedicated webpages.

– Customers must state that they have been informed, and accept to follow the COVID- 19 instructions and measures. In case they do not accept or defying behaviors are observed, the campsite has the right not to accept the customers and request their departure.

PREVENTION MEASURES

– Use of personal protective equipment: It is recommended that staff, customers and any other person entering the indoor areas of the campsite use a fabric mask.

– Personal hygiene: Hand hygiene must be maintained using soap and water. Antiseptic stations must be available at the entrance of indoor public areas. Proper respiratory hygiene must be followed, ie covering the mouth and nose with a tissue in case of cough and then throwing the tissue in a plastic bag.

📷

– Social distancing: A distance of 1.5 meters must be maintained in all indoor and outdoor areas between people that do not belong to the same family or company or do not stay in the same campsite.

– Report a violation: Any violation of the instructions and regulations should be reported to the person in charge of the campsite.

– Information and training: Staff, customers and businesses that cooperate or provide services to the campsite will receive information and training.

– Avoid live transactions/communication: Online transactions are recommended as well as telephone communications whenever possible, especially in the case of ordering or purchasing services and goods, equipment, etc.

– Entrance to the facilities is not allowed for persons that do not reside in the campsite.

– The campsite’s management must keep an updated record of all guests – name, nationality, date of arrival and departure, contact details (address, telephone, e-mail).

– Every campsite must appoint a person responsible for maintaining COVID-19 regulations.

– All recent state regulations regarding the operation of beaches must be applied on the campsite’s beach.

DISINFECTION OF EQUIPMENT AND SURFACES

The following public spots/equipment should be cleaned and disinfected according to a daily schedule or after each use with chlorine solution (0.1%):
• Supply of drinking water – taps, caps, hoses and other equipment used to supply water,
• WC chemical discharge points,
• Safe boxes for personal belongings and keys,
• Handles and keys of common refrigerators,
• Frequently-touched surfaces near power supply stations,
• Lifeguard equipment,
• Waste bins,
• Other frequently-touched surfaces (ATMs, handrails etc).

📷

Photo Source: Visit Greece

PLACEMENT OF CAMPING EQUIPMENT

– A distance of five meters should be maintained from the entrance, and three meters from the side of each camper (caravan, motorhome, tent, etc.). Alternatively, the number of customers, including permanent customers, should be reduced by 20 percent from the campsite’s approved capacity, provided that the aforementioned distances of five and three meters are maintained.

– A distance of 1.5 meters must be maintained between people that do not stay in the same camp or house.

– In case tents are rented or provided, they should be cleaned and disinfected after their use by different customers, according to the manufacturers’ instructions.

– Other equipment leased or provided (such as mattresses, pumps, tables, etc.) should be cleaned and disinfected between its use by different customers.

– Sanitary facilities (toilets, showers, hand washing machines, changing rooms, sinks for washing dishes) must be maintained clean and in good condition in accordance with the sanitary provisions.

– The management must place waste bins in various indoor and outdoor areas.

📷

For recreational water installations, campsites must apply the “Instructions for swimming pools of tourism accommodation facilities during the COVID-19 pandemic”.

In case chairs, sunbeds and umbrellas are rented, campsites must follow the “Instructions for prevention and treatment of COVID-19 cases in beaches”.

Restaurants, shops and other facilities will operate in accordance with Greek regulations


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Re: A man & a van

Bennett Family
 

Tim,

The link was really interesting.

On balance I think you made a wise move in returning when you did.

Martin

On 31 May 2020, at 20:46, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...> wrote:

I might be the only full-timer on this list but know that I am part of
a sizeable community of people who travel and live in vehicles for
months or years at a time - sometimes permanently. Sometimes called
"overlanders" or "vanlifers".

You might think equipped to live off-grid, we would be fine during a
lockdown. In reality, our lifestyle choice depends on the ability to
move around, camp, and access services like water, power, gas and
toilets from time to time.

Then regional and national borders close, campsites shut and wild
camping banned, "outsiders" discouraged. Told to #stayathome and,
well, it's complicated. Where's that?

I was in Spain when lockdown declared. Luckily I was at a remote
vinery where pitches and services were free. (Wine sales the obvious
return). For days and sleepless nights I self-debated. Eventually
after urging of FO, family and friends I made a fairly unimpeded dash
for "home" country.

Remembering at Calais I had a brother-in-law in south-east with good
size garden, there I headed. Been there using his utilities (inc
outside loo) now for two months. But still as a 'vanlifer' in my own
capsule. Meanwhile, Brit couple whose only home was their motorhome
and with whom had made good friends are still at the vinery, west of
Barcelona. Finding it strange that now other Spanish motorhomes are
turning up.

However, I'm nowhere as adventurous and have not suffered like the
couple who were in Argentina, the lead main example among other
vanlifers in this BBC long read:
BBC News - 'I left my campervan in Argentina'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-52790108

Tim



Re: A man & a van

timsinc Sinclair
 

I might be the only full-timer on this list but know that I am part of
a sizeable community of people who travel and live in vehicles for
months or years at a time - sometimes permanently. Sometimes called
"overlanders" or "vanlifers".

You might think equipped to live off-grid, we would be fine during a
lockdown. In reality, our lifestyle choice depends on the ability to
move around, camp, and access services like water, power, gas and
toilets from time to time.

Then regional and national borders close, campsites shut and wild
camping banned, "outsiders" discouraged. Told to #stayathome and,
well, it's complicated. Where's that?

I was in Spain when lockdown declared. Luckily I was at a remote
vinery where pitches and services were free. (Wine sales the obvious
return). For days and sleepless nights I self-debated. Eventually
after urging of FO, family and friends I made a fairly unimpeded dash
for "home" country.

Remembering at Calais I had a brother-in-law in south-east with good
size garden, there I headed. Been there using his utilities (inc
outside loo) now for two months. But still as a 'vanlifer' in my own
capsule. Meanwhile, Brit couple whose only home was their motorhome
and with whom had made good friends are still at the vinery, west of
Barcelona. Finding it strange that now other Spanish motorhomes are
turning up.

However, I'm nowhere as adventurous and have not suffered like the
couple who were in Argentina, the lead main example among other
vanlifers in this BBC long read:
BBC News - 'I left my campervan in Argentina'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-52790108

Tim


Re: A man & a van

Peter S
 

I take it that some have not heard Ed Reardon before. The programme is a regular on the BBC and IMHO is one of the funnier programmes they put out. It is not a serious programme about motorhomes so don't take it at face value.

See Wikipedia:-

"Ed Reardon's Week is a sitcom on BBC Radio 4 recorded semi-naturalistically in the style of a radio drama. It concerns the story of a curmudgeonly 50-something writer described in the show's publicity material as an "author, pipesmoker, consummate fare-dodger and master of the abusive email".

Peter S

-----Original Message-----
From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bennett Family via groups.io
Sent: 29 May 2020 07:58
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [motorhome-list] A man & a van

You have to start 18 minutes into the programme for the Motorhome bit.

Martin
On 28 May 2020, at 22:39, Bennett Family via groups.io <martin.bennett47=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

Sorry I only caught the last bit where a policeman seemed to have woken him up for wild camping. I thought the first bit might be good. I’ll try listening to the rubbish bit tomorrow.

Martin
On 28 May 2020, at 22:31, David Scholes <scholesd@...> wrote:

Sorry Martin. I listened to the first quarter and couldn’t stand any more.
No mention of vans of any sort up to then.

David
On 28 May 2020, at 21:13, Bennett Family via groups.io <martin.bennett47=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
I caught the last bit of this on R4Extra about a man doing a van review for “Your Motorhome Magazine”. Not had chance to listen to the rest yet

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b099yh8d

Martin









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