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Re: Fiat Ducato Instrument Cluster - a Warning

Alan Morris
 

On Mon, 18 May 2020 at 16:41, Mick Potter <mickpotter@zepler.org> wrote:

My ~10yo 'van is based on a Fiat Ducato, like many others. For obvious reasons, it hasn't been used much lately
I recently took it out after not using it for 4-5 weeks, just so that it got a run. None of the instruments (speedo, rev counter, temp and fuel level) worked. They were all stuck hard on zero.
The motors inside seize up.
I don't understand what you mean by 'motors'.

I'm not familiar with Ducato dash instruments (I have a 2017
Ducato/Hymer). In pre-digital days the speedo was a magnetically
attracted dial, but guess that with digital displays, a number is
converted into a voltage to energise a meter. Fuel displays were a
variable resistor or better known as a potentiometer, that varied the
current to a meter.

Are stepping motors now used?

Neill then wrote:-

I can add to that – if you have airbags make sure they have the minimum pressure in them before going for that run! We’ve heard of expensive mistakes recently!
Are you referring to air bag suspension or crash protection?

Alan.


Re: End of ADAC Plus Membership

Carol Weaver
 

Mine only cancelled at renewal on ⅓/21. You sure yours is cancelled immediately. I’d ask for refund

Carol

On Mon, 18 May 2020 at 19:43, simon via groups.io <easygoing=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:
Had my letter cancelling my plus membership,only renewed 10 days ago

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-------- Original message --------
From: Mick Potter <mickpotter@...>
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020, 17:49
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: [motorhome-list] End of ADAC Plus Membership
I received today the letter cancelling my ADAC Plus membership after the next renewal date, 1 Aug.  As we all know this is a great shame, as it was very good value.  As we don't go to Germany very often, it probably won't be worth our while renewing.

Has anyone come up with an alternative?  We have two cars, plus the 'van that we take to Europe once or twice a year for a couple of months, so a person-based rather than vehicle-based scheme would probably be better for us.

Any suggestions?

Bests,

Mick

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Re: Electric scooters

Carol Weaver
 

Do you not get updates Tim?

Carol 

On Mon, 18 May 2020 at 18:47, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...> wrote:
Interesting, Don. Couple of years back I (foolishly?) invested in this
start-up biz in Singapore to make wide-tyre (good for pot holes)
electric scooters with suspension. So far, nothing come of it. The
easy-store in my small camper 2-wheel transport must have crashed into
oblivion.

I may yet be surprised that the (up to 35mph) scooter will arrive on
the doorstep. I'm resigned, however, to write off the outlay as a bad
investment.

Tim

On 18/05/2020, don.madge@... <don.madge@...> wrote:
> I've noticed in the last few weeks that there are many more electric
> scooters about. We walk along the promenade at Littlehampton most days and
> scooters are being ridden by all age groups.
>
> I spoke to one middle aged owner who claimed his scooter could do 25MPH, he
> was aware that they were illegal but  was not all that bothered.
>
> It appears that they may be legal this year   See
> https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/buying-advice/gadget/electric-scooter-law-uk-3668712/
>
> I can see they might be useful for the motorhomer but charging the battery
> might be a problem.. The owner I spoke to claimed his battery took 5 hours
> to become fully charged.
> I might buy my great grandson one so I can have a go.
> Stay safe
> Don
>
>
>
>


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Re: End of ADAC Plus Membership

simon
 

Had my letter cancelling my plus membership,only renewed 10 days ago

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-------- Original message --------
From: Mick Potter <mickpotter@...>
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020, 17:49
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: [motorhome-list] End of ADAC Plus Membership
I received today the letter cancelling my ADAC Plus membership after the next renewal date, 1 Aug.  As we all know this is a great shame, as it was very good value.  As we don't go to Germany very often, it probably won't be worth our while renewing.

Has anyone come up with an alternative?  We have two cars, plus the 'van that we take to Europe once or twice a year for a couple of months, so a person-based rather than vehicle-based scheme would probably be better for us.

Any suggestions?

Bests,

Mick


Re: Electric scooters

timsinc Sinclair
 

Interesting, Don. Couple of years back I (foolishly?) invested in this
start-up biz in Singapore to make wide-tyre (good for pot holes)
electric scooters with suspension. So far, nothing come of it. The
easy-store in my small camper 2-wheel transport must have crashed into
oblivion.

I may yet be surprised that the (up to 35mph) scooter will arrive on
the doorstep. I'm resigned, however, to write off the outlay as a bad
investment.

Tim

On 18/05/2020, don.madge@gmail.com <don.madge@gmail.com> wrote:
I've noticed in the last few weeks that there are many more electric
scooters about. We walk along the promenade at Littlehampton most days and
scooters are being ridden by all age groups.

I spoke to one middle aged owner who claimed his scooter could do 25MPH, he
was aware that they were illegal but was not all that bothered.

It appears that they may be legal this year See
https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/buying-advice/gadget/electric-scooter-law-uk-3668712/

I can see they might be useful for the motorhomer but charging the battery
might be a problem.. The owner I spoke to claimed his battery took 5 hours
to become fully charged.
I might buy my great grandson one so I can have a go.
Stay safe
Don



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Re: End of ADAC Plus Membership

Carol Weaver
 


Mick it isn’t worth it without a German address as I understood it as cover just isn’t of use to us - no cover in UK for example. 

So upon renewal of mh insurance which is 2 days time I’ve added breakdown cover to our comfort policy. 

Have to decide what to do about car side at end of our year 

Carol


On Mon, 18 May 2020 at 17:49, Mick Potter <mickpotter@...> wrote:
I received today the letter cancelling my ADAC Plus membership after the next renewal date, 1 Aug.  As we all know this is a great shame, as it was very good value.  As we don't go to Germany very often, it probably won't be worth our while renewing.

Has anyone come up with an alternative?  We have two cars, plus the 'van that we take to Europe once or twice a year for a couple of months, so a person-based rather than vehicle-based scheme would probably be better for us.

Any suggestions?

Bests,

Mick

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Re: Fiat Ducato Instrument Cluster - a Warning

Carol Weaver
 

Sad. Ours is regularly left from mid October to End April when we do away. Happily had no problems 

Mick is this on an older Fiat?

Forewarned is forearmed

Carol 

On Mon, 18 May 2020 at 17:41, Mick Potter <mickpotter@...> wrote:
My ~10yo 'van is based on a Fiat Ducato, like many others.  For obvious reasons, it hasn't been used much lately

I recently took it out after not using it for 4-5 weeks, just so that it got a run.  None of the instruments (speedo, rev counter, temp and fuel level) worked.  They were all stuck hard on zero.

Long story short, I took it out (fairly easy, videos on YouTube) and got it fixed locally (£125 - a replacement is about £600 on Ebay).  The guy who served me told me it was a common problem with Fiat Ducatos, especially motorhomes, that get laid up for a while.  The motors inside seize up.

So, be warned, at least start up your Fiat Ducato occasionally, and preferably take it for a run.

HTH

Bests,

Mick

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Re: End of ADAC Plus Membership

David Scholes
 

Mine also arrived today. Must be the season for such things. They claim that the reason is because of the insurance part of the plus membership but I don’t even want that but just the breakdown bit which they are still offering but only for Germany.
Will try the CCC who do my insurance at the moment and see what they can offer.

David 


On 18 May 2020, at 17:49, Mick Potter <mickpotter@...> wrote:

I received today the letter cancelling my ADAC Plus membership after the next renewal date, 1 Aug.  As we all know this is a great shame, as it was very good value.  As we don't go to Germany very often, it probably won't be worth our while renewing.

Has anyone come up with an alternative?  We have two cars, plus the 'van that we take to Europe once or twice a year for a couple of months, so a person-based rather than vehicle-based scheme would probably be better for us.

Any suggestions?

Bests,

Mick


Re: End of ADAC Plus Membership

Nigel Owen
 

We're in the same situation.

For our motorhome we've got recovery/breakdown as an add-on with the insurance (Saga).

For our cars (UK only) the cheapest I found with a person-based policy was with Green Flag though ring them up as you'll get a better price than what is shown on their website.

Nigel.

On 18/05/2020 17:49, Mick Potter wrote:
I received today the letter cancelling my ADAC Plus membership after the next renewal date, 1 Aug.  As we all know this is a great shame, as it was very good value.  As we don't go to Germany very often, it probably won't be worth our while renewing.

Has anyone come up with an alternative?  We have two cars, plus the 'van that we take to Europe once or twice a year for a couple of months, so a person-based rather than vehicle-based scheme would probably be better for us.

Any suggestions?

Bests,

Mick


Re: Fiat Ducato Instrument Cluster - a Warning

Neill King \(MH-List\)
 

Good advice.

 

I can add to that – if you have airbags make sure they have the minimum pressure in them before going for that run!  We’ve heard of expensive mistakes recently!

 

Best regards

Neill   (Neill is deaf and doesn’t use the phone)
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From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mick Potter
Sent: 18 May 2020 17:42
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: [motorhome-list] Fiat Ducato Instrument Cluster - a Warning

 

My ~10yo 'van is based on a Fiat Ducato, like many others.  For obvious reasons, it hasn't been used much lately

I recently took it out after not using it for 4-5 weeks, just so that it got a run.  None of the instruments (speedo, rev counter, temp and fuel level) worked.  They were all stuck hard on zero.

Long story short, I took it out (fairly easy, videos on YouTube) and got it fixed locally (£125 - a replacement is about £600 on Ebay).  The guy who served me told me it was a common problem with Fiat Ducatos, especially motorhomes, that get laid up for a while.  The motors inside seize up.

So, be warned, at least start up your Fiat Ducato occasionally, and preferably take it for a run.

HTH

Bests,

Mick


End of ADAC Plus Membership

Mick Potter
 

I received today the letter cancelling my ADAC Plus membership after the next renewal date, 1 Aug.  As we all know this is a great shame, as it was very good value.  As we don't go to Germany very often, it probably won't be worth our while renewing.

Has anyone come up with an alternative?  We have two cars, plus the 'van that we take to Europe once or twice a year for a couple of months, so a person-based rather than vehicle-based scheme would probably be better for us.

Any suggestions?

Bests,

Mick


Fiat Ducato Instrument Cluster - a Warning

Mick Potter
 

My ~10yo 'van is based on a Fiat Ducato, like many others.  For obvious reasons, it hasn't been used much lately

I recently took it out after not using it for 4-5 weeks, just so that it got a run.  None of the instruments (speedo, rev counter, temp and fuel level) worked.  They were all stuck hard on zero.

Long story short, I took it out (fairly easy, videos on YouTube) and got it fixed locally (£125 - a replacement is about £600 on Ebay).  The guy who served me told me it was a common problem with Fiat Ducatos, especially motorhomes, that get laid up for a while.  The motors inside seize up.

So, be warned, at least start up your Fiat Ducato occasionally, and preferably take it for a run.

HTH

Bests,

Mick


Electric scooters

Don Madge
 

I've noticed in the last few weeks that there are many more electric scooters about. We walk along the promenade at Littlehampton most days and scooters are being ridden by all age groups.  

I spoke to one middle aged owner who claimed his scooter could do 25MPH, he was aware that they were illegal but  was not all that bothered.

It appears that they may be legal this year   See https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/buying-advice/gadget/electric-scooter-law-uk-3668712/

I can see they might be useful for the motorhomer but charging the battery might be a problem.. The owner I spoke to claimed his battery took 5 hours to become fully charged.
I might buy my great grandson one so I can have a go.
Stay safe 
Don 


Re: Problem With Seitz Window

timsinc Sinclair
 

Indeed, Max. Seem to remember your advice from before and what I've done since.

Tim

On 11/05/2020, M Stevenson <atcop.co@gmail.com> wrote:
The problem with the sliding door as folks point out is the sudden stop when
closing normally. Usually, it takes a good heave to make it slew round the
track to latch properly.
I find that sliding the door to the start of the curve, then pushing in the
BACK end will close it with very little force.
Perhaps there is a market for a stick on pad to prevent scratches.

Same inside, needs a handle at the rear end. I find I can close it with just
two fingers in the blind frame. That's how little it needs to shut.

Try it once the window has been fixed to limit further damage.
Added bonus is, you don't disturb the neighbours with the usual whoosh-bang
either.

Cheers
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Re: Problem With Seitz Window

Neill King \(MH-List\)
 

One tip given to me was to create a rubber bumper around the screws to minimise chipping & cracking – a but of rubber tube round the screw e.g.

 

Best regards

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From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mick Potter
Sent: 11 May 2020 13:39
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [motorhome-list] Problem With Seitz Window

 

Thanks all for the comments.

 

Carol, as Neill said, the Stopsy controls the door, not the sliding of the window along the door, but thanks for looking.

 

Tim, I think that Dometic and Seitz are the same company, so it sounds like we have problems caused by the same 'design fault'.

 

Neill, I think the idea of end stops might work, and I take your point about their needing to be substantial.  The door needs quite a slam to close, and the window is quite large, and so has a lot of momentum.  I'm thinking of shortening the part on the pane, and putting one or two self tapping screws at each end of the part on the van, going through into the van.  I might give it a go when the cold winds subside.

 

Thanks again.

 

Bests,

 

Mick


Re: Problem With Seitz Window

M Stevenson
 

The problem with the sliding door as folks point out is the sudden stop when closing normally. Usually, it takes a good heave to make it slew round the track to latch properly.
I find that sliding the door to the start of the curve, then pushing in the BACK end will close it with very little force.
Perhaps there is a market for a stick on pad to prevent scratches.

Same inside, needs a handle at the rear end. I find I can close it with just two fingers in the blind frame. That's how little it needs to shut.

Try it once the window has been fixed to limit further damage.
Added bonus is, you don't disturb the neighbours with the usual whoosh-bang either.

Cheers
Max


Re: Problem With Seitz Window

Mick Potter
 

Thanks all for the comments.

Carol, as Neill said, the Stopsy controls the door, not the sliding of the window along the door, but thanks for looking.

Tim, I think that Dometic and Seitz are the same company, so it sounds like we have problems caused by the same 'design fault'.

Neill, I think the idea of end stops might work, and I take your point about their needing to be substantial.  The door needs quite a slam to close, and the window is quite large, and so has a lot of momentum.  I'm thinking of shortening the part on the pane, and putting one or two self tapping screws at each end of the part on the van, going through into the van.  I might give it a go when the cold winds subside.

Thanks again.

Bests,

Mick


Re: Fraudsters use Covid lockdown to scam motorhome buyers

timsinc Sinclair
 

Sad isn't it how there's always a few taking advantage of crisis or
emergency to scam and/or fool people.

Also, as I suspected, when campsites do reopen they're likely to be
booked solid. Not only will all us established regulars be in the
queue but there'll be these new van owners (if they haven't been
scammed!)

As that Guardian article said, camper vans have become attractive to
families who are looking for ways to safely take a summer break.
Understandably, the former package holiday crowds will want to get out
of the homes where they've been grounded for months - as well as us.

Guess good news for the past-years ailing UK holiday towns, but that
in turn could mean that with booming business there's less incentive
to cater for motorhomers.

On other hand, could lead to some savvy land owners taking advantage
of the camper boom to make money by providing pitches and some
amenities.

Campervan Tim

On 11/05/2020, Carol Weaver <corconx@gmail.com> wrote:
Martin I’ve been a friend of Jacks for about 5 years and have spoken with
him at various times on how best he could try to get his voice heard.

About 3/4 years ago Jack changed from just alerting people to scams and was
looking for a better way to help people get their money back.

This he has always done for free. How he kept going - working at night as
that was when most scams were put up. He needed to get some money in. He
did get some back and it was from that where the scambusters started to
help. Many themselves scammed. They have been brilliant to be honest. Jack
found a better way to get money back but the hours of work is horrendous
really spent on each one. He came across another guy doing something
similar but working more I think on the commercial side of things. They
have managed to hel each other. They have got stuff into papers and on
Money Box and other TV Programmes. Jack started to ask for a percentage IF
he got their money back. All agree to it but sadly a few who having got
their money back don’t pay!!!

I have a lot of time for Jack and his unpaid team. But the level of scams
is just absolutely absurd atm.

I see posts on various mh Facebook pages people asking about various mhs -
always too cheap and worried it’s a scam. It is a scam - do you know
anyone selling their own Motorhome at half price or less? Of course not -
unless there is something wrong with it and they are honest. So what is
making it worse Is they have always used an escrow (false) account saying
if you don’t like it when you see it you will get your money back. Only of
course you cannot view now unless you happen to live close. So it is a bit
more plausible now

The thing Jack has always said DON’T SPEND ANY MONEY UNTIL YOU CAN TOUCH IT
AND SEE IT AT PLACE WHERE IT IS REGISTERED

Carol



On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 07:39, Bennett Family <martin@hymer.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

Fraudsters use Covid lockdown to scam motorhome buyers

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2020/may/04/fraudsters-use-covid-lockdown-to-scam-motorhome-buyers?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other



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Re: Fraudsters use Covid lockdown to scam motorhome buyers

Bennett Family
 

Carol  >” DON’T SPEND ANY MONEY UNTIL YOU CAN TOUCH IT AND SEE IT AT PLACE WHERE IT IS REGISTERED”

Good advice. Along with “If it looks too good to be true then it generally is.”

Martin 

On 11 May 2020, at 09:00, Carol Weaver via groups.io <corconx@...> wrote:


Martin I’ve been a friend of Jacks for about 5 years and have spoken with him at various times on how best he could try to get his voice heard. 

About 3/4 years ago Jack changed from just alerting people to scams and was looking for a better way to help people get their money back. 

This he has always done for free. How he kept going - working at night as that was when most scams were put up.   He needed to get some money in. He did get some back and it was from that where the scambusters started to help. Many themselves scammed.  They have been brilliant to be honest. Jack found a better way to get money back but the hours of work is horrendous really spent on each one. He came across another guy doing something similar but working more I think on the commercial side of things. They have managed to hel each other. They have got stuff into papers and on Money Box and other TV Programmes.  Jack started to ask for a percentage IF he got their money back. All agree to it but sadly  a few who having got their money back don’t pay!!!

I have a lot of time for Jack and his unpaid team. But the level of scams is just absolutely absurd atm.  

I see posts on various mh Facebook pages people asking about various mhs - always too cheap and worried it’s a scam.  It is a scam - do you know anyone selling their own Motorhome at half price or less?  Of course not - unless there is something wrong with it and they are honest.  So what is making it worse Is they have always used an escrow (false) account saying if you don’t like it when you see it you will get your money back. Only of course you cannot view now unless you happen to live close.  So it is a bit more plausible now

The thing Jack has always said DON’T SPEND ANY MONEY UNTIL YOU CAN TOUCH IT AND SEE IT AT PLACE WHERE IT IS REGISTERED

Carol



On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 07:39, Bennett Family <martin@...> wrote:
Fraudsters use Covid lockdown to scam motorhome buyers
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2020/may/04/fraudsters-use-covid-lockdown-to-scam-motorhome-buyers?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other



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Re: Fraudsters use Covid lockdown to scam motorhome buyers

Carol Weaver
 

Martin I’ve been a friend of Jacks for about 5 years and have spoken with him at various times on how best he could try to get his voice heard. 

About 3/4 years ago Jack changed from just alerting people to scams and was looking for a better way to help people get their money back. 

This he has always done for free. How he kept going - working at night as that was when most scams were put up.   He needed to get some money in. He did get some back and it was from that where the scambusters started to help. Many themselves scammed.  They have been brilliant to be honest. Jack found a better way to get money back but the hours of work is horrendous really spent on each one. He came across another guy doing something similar but working more I think on the commercial side of things. They have managed to hel each other. They have got stuff into papers and on Money Box and other TV Programmes.  Jack started to ask for a percentage IF he got their money back. All agree to it but sadly  a few who having got their money back don’t pay!!!

I have a lot of time for Jack and his unpaid team. But the level of scams is just absolutely absurd atm.  

I see posts on various mh Facebook pages people asking about various mhs - always too cheap and worried it’s a scam.  It is a scam - do you know anyone selling their own Motorhome at half price or less?  Of course not - unless there is something wrong with it and they are honest.  So what is making it worse Is they have always used an escrow (false) account saying if you don’t like it when you see it you will get your money back. Only of course you cannot view now unless you happen to live close.  So it is a bit more plausible now

The thing Jack has always said DON’T SPEND ANY MONEY UNTIL YOU CAN TOUCH IT AND SEE IT AT PLACE WHERE IT IS REGISTERED

Carol



On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 07:39, Bennett Family <martin@...> wrote:
Fraudsters use Covid lockdown to scam motorhome buyers
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2020/may/04/fraudsters-use-covid-lockdown-to-scam-motorhome-buyers?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other



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