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Re: Travel Insurance - Staysure unhelpful

Sandytrax
 

It must surely be morally wrong for an insurance company to refuse a reduction in cover for travel when you are unable to travel due to U.K. government rules?
Pandemic exploitation?
Cheers
Brian


Re: Travel Insurance - Staysure unhelpful

Carol Weaver
 

Ours was due 9/4 so I haven’t done it

Hope you get some help

C

On Fri, 8 May 2020 at 13:28, Sandytrax <brianinspain12@...> wrote:
Hi folks
I renewed my Staysure travel insurance for an annual multi trip policy on 18 March. 
I've asked for an extension or cancellation in the current circumstances.
They have refused.
I could cancel but will lose the full premium I paid.
Anyone had the same unhelpful response?
Cheers
Brian

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Travel Insurance - Staysure unhelpful

Sandytrax
 

Hi folks
I renewed my Staysure travel insurance for an annual multi trip policy on 18 March. 
I've asked for an extension or cancellation in the current circumstances.
They have refused.
I could cancel but will lose the full premium I paid.
Anyone had the same unhelpful response?
Cheers
Brian


DUSSELDORF EXHIBITION

Carol Weaver
 

Translation from the Caravan Show Düsseldorf 

Hello, Carol Weaver!
 

Due to the effects of the Coronavirus Covid-19 and the joint decision of the Federal Government and the Federal States to prohibit major events in principle until 31 August 2020, the CARAVAN SALON will be postponed by one week and will now take place from 5 to 13 September 2020 (Specialist Visitors and Media Day on 4 September).

At the same time, we as a trade fair company must ensure that the already existing, high safety and hygiene standards at the Düsseldorf trade fair grounds are continuously adapted to the latest findings. A corresponding concept is currently being planned in cooperation with authorities, associations and partners for all upcoming events. 

We will inform you about these measures in a timely manner. The health of our customers, guests and employees is always our top priority. 

The decision is made on the basis of current knowledge and can be adapted due to the dynamics and unpredictability of the Corona pandemic and the measures taken by the federal and state governments to combat it.

We look forward to welcoming you to our exhibition grounds in Düsseldorf for the new appointment.

Thank you for your trust!

Your CARAVAN SALON CLUB Team

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Info re Netherlands

Carol Weaver
 


Re: Lock down in Funchal, Madeira

Derek Sims
 

Brilliant, Ernie. You must have had about three lifetimes compared with ours!

Hardly need to say this to you but ...

Stay Sane

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On 07/05/2020, 12:05 Ernest Bull <ernb32@...> wrote:
On 3 May 2020, at 17:07, timsinc Sinclair < timsinc@...> wrote:

Today we reached Madeira,

I have landed at Madeira twice, and once each at Las Palmas, Ascension, and St Helena, on Union Castle ships between Southampton and Capetown. Also did an emergency stop to take on ballast into Dakar, Senegal.  Once out, twice back. (Flew out to Rhodesiain ’52 with RAF, came back on Athlone Castle in ‘53. Emigrated to S Africa in ’66 on Capetown Castle and returned in ’75 on the Edinburgh Castle.

Madeira never struck me as anything special. The traffic and driving were atrocious. An endless cacophony of squealing brakes, blasting of motor horns, crumpling bodywork and streams of very loud Portuguese invective. I do not think that I ever saw a car there that hadn’t been bashed from all angles.

Ascension was occupied by the US Navy and its Space Agency. My strongest memory was of the ship sailing for over a day through massive islands of floating rubbish that had been dumped in the Atlantic by strings of floating skips loaded with garbage.

St Helena was fantastic. Like one big film set for pirate films. Its most outstanding feature, at the top of an almighty list, including where Napoleon lived and died, is Jacob’s Ladder.
Climbing its 699 steps is one thing, but coming down again is extremely weird and one has to experience it to even start to understand what it is like. The steps were very worn and irregular and we had to look where we were stepping. Looking at our feet all the time, we all got the feeling that we were drunk and leaning backwards at about 45 degrees. We had to keep stopping and turning round to look upwards in order to regain our balance. I see now that the H&SE have since “made improvements”. 

One for your bucket lists although MH hostile, I should imagine. There are only 138Km of single lane highways with a speed limit of 30mph. And steep! Uphill traffic has right of way.
________

ErnB


Re: Lock down in Funchal, Madeira

Ernest Bull
 

On 3 May 2020, at 17:07, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...> wrote:

Today we reached Madeira,

I have landed at Madeira twice, and once each at Las Palmas, Ascension, and St Helena, on Union Castle ships between Southampton and Capetown. Also did an emergency stop to take on ballast into Dakar, Senegal.  Once out, twice back. (Flew out to Rhodesiain ’52 with RAF, came back on Athlone Castle in ‘53. Emigrated to S Africa in ’66 on Capetown Castle and returned in ’75 on the Edinburgh Castle.

Madeira never struck me as anything special. The traffic and driving were atrocious. An endless cacophony of squealing brakes, blasting of motor horns, crumpling bodywork and streams of very loud Portuguese invective. I do not think that I ever saw a car there that hadn’t been bashed from all angles.

Ascension was occupied by the US Navy and its Space Agency. My strongest memory was of the ship sailing for over a day through massive islands of floating rubbish that had been dumped in the Atlantic by strings of floating skips loaded with garbage.

St Helena was fantastic. Like one big film set for pirate films. Its most outstanding feature, at the top of an almighty list, including where Napoleon lived and died, is Jacob’s Ladder.
Climbing its 699 steps is one thing, but coming down again is extremely weird and one has to experience it to even start to understand what it is like. The steps were very worn and irregular and we had to look where we were stepping. Looking at our feet all the time, we all got the feeling that we were drunk and leaning backwards at about 45 degrees. We had to keep stopping and turning round to look upwards in order to regain our balance. I see now that the H&SE have since “made improvements”. 

One for your bucket lists although MH hostile, I should imagine. There are only 138Km of single lane highways with a speed limit of 30mph. And steep! Uphill traffic has right of way.
________

ErnB


Re: Ferries to Crete anyone?

Derek Sims
 

Hello Cissy

Thanks for the very useful information, which I will save in case we're ever able to visit Greece again. Our niece is married to a Kephalonian so it's always a possibility, but at the moment they're living in Wales.

We had a lovely winter in Greece in our motorhome and enjoyed everywhere.

Keep Sane

Derek

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On 30/04/2020, 16:24 "Cissy Christodoulaki via groups.io" <christodoulakicissy@...> wrote:

 

Hi all, 

This is Cissy from Athens and I am trying to answer your questions about ferries to Crete. 

Ferries to and from Crete are not expected to be available to tourists   (Greeks and foreigners alike) before the end of May, convid19 situation permitting. So far only permanent residents are allowed to travel to and from all Greek islands.  

Ferries to Crete do NOT have open-deck section for camping- on-board.  The day- ferry is cheaper than the night-ferry and personally I find it more pleasant and convenient.

Ferries from Greece to Italy and from Italy to Greece do not always have an open deck section. Open-deck option is seasonal.  

ANEK-SuperFast ferries do have an open-deck section for camping-on-board, but you have to book well in advance, as the open-deck space is rather limited.

Minoan-Grimaldi ferries do NOT offer the open-deck option, but if you book well in advance, you get a free-of-charge cabin. Again the number of free cabins is limited and advance booking is required.


I am at your disposal for any questions.

Best wishes for a nice summer 

Cissy 



Re: Magbaz travels

David
 

Just a quickie. They have recently updated their website with a quite detailed report of recent events etc


Re: Magbaz travels

Don Madge
 

Thanks Brian, I think I had a senior moment and  used the wrong address.
Don


Re: Magbaz travels

Sandytrax
 

Yes, I’ve recently been in touch with them via their website to thank them for helpful info.

They replied by email as follows:

Dear Brian

Many thanks for your message and your kind words about our website. You will see from the email copied below, and the attached report which we recently circulated with it, that we are locked-down in, of all places, a flat somewhere between Fleetwood and Blackpool, having returned to the UK from Greece just as the virus was starting in China. Like you, we hadn’t a single clue that it would get so bad and the UK government prove so useless.

Your message reminds us of a time so recent, and yet seemingly lost beyond recall – the freedom of the open road. When will we see its like again? Thank goodness that we did make such a detailed record of our travels and provided a space for others to share their experiences, well before blogs and the social media became so dominant. It is rewarding to learn that it has been of use to you going back 13 years!

We do hope you will be reunited with your motorhome, to continue exploring our favourite country in Europe. Maybe we will meet there – who knows? 

Bons Voyages (when you can)

Barry and Margaret

This is the email we circulated recently along with the above attachment

Dear friends

Attached and in no more than 600 words we give some idea of where we were and what we were doing when lockdown struck. It wouldn’t be us unless we also commented on Brexit which, in conjunction with the pandemic, the climate crisis and the coming financial crash, makes one wonder if capitalism was such a good idea after all.

The name we give the file ‘On the Last of the Land’ is from the Runrig ballad ‘This Beautiful Pain’ in their 1991 album ‘The Big Wheel’. All three of these phrases fit well into our present situation, as do the later lines: ‘Now all that I have is rushing right through my hands’ and ‘Down that tide where fresh and salt combine’. Sometimes music captures a particular experience and mood and then stays with it in the memory.

We hope that after being lifted off the ground and turned upside down by your own Big Wheel, it eventually drops you off dazed but upright and not too far from where it picked you up a few short weeks ago.

Barry and Margaret



Fleetwood: where ‘Fresh’ (the River Wyre) and ‘Salt’ (the Irish Sea) combine


Blackpool: Opera House, Winter Gardens and Tower, enjoyed by a lone man 
and a lone seagull
 


 


Re: Magbaz travels

Carol Weaver
 

Can’t say I have. I was never in touch with them. Only knew of them through you.  Maybe some of your ex colleagues may know at MMM Don. 

Carol

On Tue, 5 May 2020 at 12:13, <don.madge@...> wrote:
I've not heard from Margaret & Barry for some time. There site does not appear to be updated since last summer.
Has anybody been in touch with them lately? I've had no reply to e mails I've sent them.
Don

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Magbaz travels

Don Madge
 

I've not heard from Margaret & Barry for some time. There site does not appear to be updated since last summer.
Has anybody been in touch with them lately? I've had no reply to e mails I've sent them.
Don


Re: future on the road?

Carol Weaver
 

We use them from June to mid August every year.  Great we enjoy them

Carol

On Mon, 4 May 2020 at 14:52, Wirralgirl <spk40@...> wrote:

Hi All,

 

C&CC do rallies for members only, mostly during spring to autumn – very cheap and usually no facilities other than water and toilet dump.

They can be sociable or not depending on the group and the situation.

We use these for most of our UK trips, with occasional pub stops and unofficial stopovers.

Price varies – from £7 to £12  a night for the unit, up to 2 adults and 2 kids.

I think the C&MC also do something similar.

 

Hoping that this year won’t be a total washout but I wouldn’t be surprised if all rallies are cancelled at least until autumn.

Looking forward to next year !

Best to all.

Sharon

 

 

From: motorhome-list@groups.io <motorhome-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of John Clemence
Sent: 03 May 2020 19:11
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [motorhome-list] future on the road?

 

I totally agree with you Brian, its a shame that the 5 van sites are not openly available to anyone. I think it is due to some planning restrictions but these days that is an archaic counter intuitive regulation which needs to be re-visited. But of course, the vested interests will block any attempts in this direction.

Just down to wild camping if one is restricted to touring in the UK then.

Vive la France!

John.

 

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From: "Sandytrax" <brianinspain12@...>

Sent: 5/3/2020 5:49:27 PM

Subject: Re: [motorhome-list] future on the road?

 

>>Some folk are pessimists and others optimists. Optimists generally
approach life with a positive outlook, while pessimists tend to expect
the worst.<<

I'm definitely an optimist! Things general just work out ok if I just let go rather than trying to control the world!

I totally dislike CMC and CCC campsites. They are obviously fine for those who like a lot of order in their lives.
I prefer a bit of disorder!

I think it is a real shame that the CMC and CCC seem to control most of the 5 van sites.
Why could there not be a free website/app to locate them?

I believe anything more than £10 to park overnight on a bit of grass or gravel is extortionate.
Some prices are about the same as B&B now!
Ok if you want swimming pools and saunas and stay for a week or two.
This is an old model based upon caravans. 
It is not a model for those who just want to stay a night or two. Motorhomes that move rather than static caravans.
I don't understand why folks spend £50k upwards for a van with a toilet and shower, but want to share one with many others.

Each to their own, I guess.

That's my 5p worth.

Cheers
Brian


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Re: future on the road?

Wirralgirl
 

Hi All,

 

C&CC do rallies for members only, mostly during spring to autumn – very cheap and usually no facilities other than water and toilet dump.

They can be sociable or not depending on the group and the situation.

We use these for most of our UK trips, with occasional pub stops and unofficial stopovers.

Price varies – from £7 to £12  a night for the unit, up to 2 adults and 2 kids.

I think the C&MC also do something similar.

 

Hoping that this year won’t be a total washout but I wouldn’t be surprised if all rallies are cancelled at least until autumn.

Looking forward to next year !

Best to all.

Sharon

 

 

From: motorhome-list@groups.io <motorhome-list@groups.io> On Behalf Of John Clemence
Sent: 03 May 2020 19:11
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [motorhome-list] future on the road?

 

I totally agree with you Brian, its a shame that the 5 van sites are not openly available to anyone. I think it is due to some planning restrictions but these days that is an archaic counter intuitive regulation which needs to be re-visited. But of course, the vested interests will block any attempts in this direction.

Just down to wild camping if one is restricted to touring in the UK then.

Vive la France!

John.

 

------ Original Message ------

From: "Sandytrax" <brianinspain12@...>

Sent: 5/3/2020 5:49:27 PM

Subject: Re: [motorhome-list] future on the road?

 

>>Some folk are pessimists and others optimists. Optimists generally
approach life with a positive outlook, while pessimists tend to expect
the worst.<<

I'm definitely an optimist! Things general just work out ok if I just let go rather than trying to control the world!

I totally dislike CMC and CCC campsites. They are obviously fine for those who like a lot of order in their lives.
I prefer a bit of disorder!

I think it is a real shame that the CMC and CCC seem to control most of the 5 van sites.
Why could there not be a free website/app to locate them?

I believe anything more than £10 to park overnight on a bit of grass or gravel is extortionate.
Some prices are about the same as B&B now!
Ok if you want swimming pools and saunas and stay for a week or two.
This is an old model based upon caravans. 
It is not a model for those who just want to stay a night or two. Motorhomes that move rather than static caravans.
I don't understand why folks spend £50k upwards for a van with a toilet and shower, but want to share one with many others.

Each to their own, I guess.

That's my 5p worth.

Cheers
Brian


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Re: future on the road?

David Scholes
 

The site was called Breedon Priory

David


On 4 May 2020, at 13:37, David Scholes <scholesd@...> wrote:

Thank you Andy. I did not know that bit about the MCC but I now understand why I was allowed to stay for several days on a site just south of East Midlands Airport without joining anything. It was a nice cheap site too, £6 just park and dump and water next to a golf course and with a walk up the hill to a fascinating old church.

David


On 4 May 2020, at 11:32, Andy Clarke <andyclarke1050@...> wrote:


 It's not a planning restriction. 5 van sites are administered by 'Exempted Organisations',   such small sites can be set up without the usual planning and licence requirements. It is up to the Exempted Organisations to state whether the sites are restricted to their members only. CCC & CMC both impose this restriction, Motor Caravanners Club doesn't.

Andy Clarke
www.ukmotorhomes.net

On Sun, 3 May 2020 19:11 John Clemence, <clemence.john@...> wrote:
I totally agree with you Brian, its a shame that the 5 van sites are not openly available to anyone. I think it is due to some planning restrictions but these days that is an archaic counter intuitive regulation which needs to be re-visited. But of course, the vested interests will block any attempts in this direction.
Just down to wild camping if one is restricted to touring in the UK then.
Vive la France!
John.


Re: future on the road?

David Scholes
 

Thank you Andy. I did not know that bit about the MCC but I now understand why I was allowed to stay for several days on a site just south of East Midlands Airport without joining anything. It was a nice cheap site too, £6 just park and dump and water next to a golf course and with a walk up the hill to a fascinating old church.

David


On 4 May 2020, at 11:32, Andy Clarke <andyclarke1050@...> wrote:


 It's not a planning restriction. 5 van sites are administered by 'Exempted Organisations',   such small sites can be set up without the usual planning and licence requirements. It is up to the Exempted Organisations to state whether the sites are restricted to their members only. CCC & CMC both impose this restriction, Motor Caravanners Club doesn't.

Andy Clarke
www.ukmotorhomes.net

On Sun, 3 May 2020 19:11 John Clemence, <clemence.john@...> wrote:
I totally agree with you Brian, its a shame that the 5 van sites are not openly available to anyone. I think it is due to some planning restrictions but these days that is an archaic counter intuitive regulation which needs to be re-visited. But of course, the vested interests will block any attempts in this direction.
Just down to wild camping if one is restricted to touring in the UK then.
Vive la France!
John.


Re: future on the road?

Andy Clarke
 

 It's not a planning restriction. 5 van sites are administered by 'Exempted Organisations',   such small sites can be set up without the usual planning and licence requirements. It is up to the Exempted Organisations to state whether the sites are restricted to their members only. CCC & CMC both impose this restriction, Motor Caravanners Club doesn't.

Andy Clarke


On Sun, 3 May 2020 19:11 John Clemence, <clemence.john@...> wrote:
I totally agree with you Brian, its a shame that the 5 van sites are not openly available to anyone. I think it is due to some planning restrictions but these days that is an archaic counter intuitive regulation which needs to be re-visited. But of course, the vested interests will block any attempts in this direction.
Just down to wild camping if one is restricted to touring in the UK then.
Vive la France!
John.


Re: future on the road?

Derek Sims
 

I totally agree with you Brian, which is why most of touring is on the Continent, not necessarily wild camping but using aires, France Passion, permitted parking or the equivalent in whichever country we visit. 

In the UK we use Britstops but, as we don’t drink a lot or want pub meals every night, we find it difficult to plan a complete trip around them. We used to use the CLs a lot, but now they and the CSs have generally become as expensive as commercial sites as they respond to Club pressure to put in more provision for large, all-electric caravans, (We met one simple-style CL owner who told  us that at the Annual Inspection he was told that this is what he had to do. He refused, but most don’t. This, of course, then makes the Club site prices look reasonable). I don’t know if the Motor Caravan Club CLs are any better, but I suspect not and I believe there are very few of them.

Of course, in the winter we’d like a hard standing, having been bogged-down too many times to want to repeat the experience, but we don’t need all the other add-ons.

The answer for us would be a network of aires but it doesn’t seem as if the money-grabbing attitude of most local authorities will ever be changed and Canterbury will remain the one shining example. Here in Woolacombe someone asked the Parish Council to consider making a number of (paid) overnight parking spaces available for motorhomes on Marine Drive, (Which, incidentally belongs to the National Trust, but is leased to the Parish Council, so even Trust Members have to pay to park). One of the families that owns a local hotel, caravan and chalet park apparently has over 20,000 beds available on any night in the season. Imagine the influence they weild locally. The parking suggestion hasn’t got off the ground and probably never will, so people just break the law and park overnight on the esplanade, giving motorhome owners a bad press locally.

We use the excellent arrangements for overnight parking in Torridge District and Powys Long Stay car parks, but they are only car parks, with no official water and dump facilities, and even that provision is scarce.

When do the ferries start to run again??!!

The optimist says his cup is half-full. The pessimist says is half-empty. The engineer says the cup’s the wrong size. I were an in ingneer.

Stay Sane

Derek

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From: Sandytrax <brianinspain12@...>
Date: 3 May 2020
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
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Subject: Re: [motorhome-list] future on the road?
>>Some folk are pessimists and others optimists. Optimists generally
approach life with a positive outlook, while pessimists tend to expect
the worst.<<

I'm definitely an optimist! Things general just work out ok if I just let go rather than trying to control the world!

I totally dislike CMC and CCC campsites. They are obviously fine for those who like a lot of order in their lives.
I prefer a bit of disorder!

I think it is a real shame that the CMC and CCC seem to control most of the 5 van sites.
Why could there not be a free website/app to locate them?

I believe anything more than £10 to park overnight on a bit of grass or gravel is extortionate.
Some prices are about the same as B&B now!
Ok if you want swimming pools and saunas and stay for a week or two.
This is an old model based upon caravans. 
It is not a model for those who just want to stay a night or two. Motorhomes that move rather than static caravans.
I don't understand why folks spend £50k upwards for a van with a toilet and shower, but want to share one with many others.

Each to their own, I guess.

That's my 5p worth.

Cheers
Brian


Re: Lock down in Funchal, Madeira

Derek Sims
 

What a talented writer your great-grandfather was! I felt I was there. It must be marvellous to have that correspondence - the equivalent of a modern motorhomer’s blog.

They still uses sledges in Clovelly to take goods down from the car park at the top. Incidentally, if anyone saw the film of The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society at the weekend, that was Clovelly being used as St. Peter Port - not very appropriate really. They also used Bideford as Weymouth and the Hartland point area as the Guernsey coast. Why, I wonder? Economics, I suppose.

Stay Sane

Derek

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On 03/05/2020 at 17:07, timsinc Sinclair wrote:

On 03/05/2020, don.madge@gmail.com <don.madge@gmail.com> wrote:
I know its OT but this is the live web cam at the Ritz Cafe in Funchal. I
can highly recommend the place, the prices are very reasonable
.. http://www.theritzmadeira.com/livewebcam.html
Don
Continuing off topic ........

Today we reached Madeira, and it was a great pleasure to have a meal
with the ship at rest. Since we left Dartmouth the fiddles have been
on the table each day. From the sea Madeira looks an island of abrupt
jagged hills - rising 4000 feet, scarred with ravines down which in
the rainy seasons the water rushes and roars - the hillsides are
dotted with houses white and yellow - and the ground is cultivated in
terraces - sugar canes and vines being the principal growths.

We landed for 4 hours. All the streets are paved with boulders set on
end - and these boulders are polished like agates with the bullock
sledges which are the carriages of the island - the steel shod sledges
slip smoothly over the stones and away you go as swiftly as a bullock
cart pulls you.

Beggars are like locusts. Deformed beggars - maimed beggars - bleary
eyed beggars and strong lusty beggars dog one's steps like shadows. If
a child turns a corner and catches sight of an Englishman, down drops
his basket and his hand is held out.

In a letter written by my great grandfather in 1876. Never been there
but brother says the sledges still in operation - but not the beggars!

Tim



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