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Re: EHU cable 1.5mm/2.5mm orange or blue?

Sandytrax
 

This what I bought yesterday. Note it says not approved by NCC and not suitable for ‘caravan site use’. 
WTF!

https://www.maypole.ltd.uk/mp3772-230v-25m-extension-lead

Re: EHU cable 1.5mm/2.5mm orange or blue?

Carol Weaver
 


Didn’t know caravan manufacturers even made cables!!  No rule for Motorhome?


On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 at 08:41, Bennett Family <martin@...> wrote:
CMC rules seem to make cables of less than 23m “illegal” even if next to the bollard - so best dump your short cable and ensure that your full sized replacement has been supplied by the “caravan manufacturer” - would be as well to have a receipt. Disconnect in very cold weather as it may not pass the “flexible” test. 

Jobsworth 


On 16 Feb 2020, at 08:25, timsinc Sinclair via Groups.Io <timsinc=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:


Well, the CMC rules say: "The maximum permitted distance between socket outlet and any point on the caravan pitch is 20 metres.
"The hook up lead should be 25 metres (+/- 2 metres) of flexible cable supplied by the caravan manufacturer."
That's where and why, I suppose, joing together of two cables frowned upon. The CCC have a much more relaxed attitude.

No mention of colour or size. Usual stuff about completely unwinding and not leaving plugged into bollard if off for the day - or even doing the empty/filling biz.

"Club site staff have authority to refuse to offer a power supply to a caravan if it is believed that the installation may be unsafe."

Yep, often down to how officious a warden is.

Campervan Tim



On 15 February 2020 5:26:56 pm "Adrian Harman" <adrianharman@...> wrote:

I’m also confused??

Adrian 
On 15 Feb 2020, 17:24 +0000, Richard <edelec@...>, wrote:
I am amazed at what I am reading! What are these caravan rules with
regard to cables?
Richard

On 15/02/2020 16:53, Carol Weaver wrote:

Well our blue one has been used on both CCC and old CC (not in latter
now) without any problems.

Carol

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 16:49, Sandytrax <brianinspain12@...
<mailto:brianinspain12@...>> wrote:

Thanks to all for your thoughts.
My further research indicates that standard ehu cables commonly
available on the market are orange 2.5mm. These meet the standards
of the NCC and the CCC.

Also available but not so common are orange 1.5mm but these are
not approved by the NCC.

I’ve hated using the two 2.5mm orange cables that I’ve owned
because they have quickly become inflexible, tangled  and hard to
wind up.

So I’ve just bought a 25m orange 1.5 cable from Go Outdoors. It
says on the pack that it’s not suitable for caravan sites and
should not be used in wet or damp conditions!!
However, it is marketed as a Motorhome ehu on many websites.
So that’s a bit mysterious.

Go Outdoors Price is £30 but I found it for £22 on another website
and with their price guarantee, they sold it to me for £20. Bargain!

I’m sure it will be fine.
And my heart won’t sink when I need to use a hook up.
Cheers
Brian



On 15 Feb 2020, at 13:17, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...
<mailto:timsinc@...>> wrote:

On 15/02/2020, Andy Clarke <andyclarke1050@...
<mailto:andyclarke1050@...>> wrote:
25m of 1.5mm is approx 1.5kg lighter that 25m of 2.5mm


... and a heck of a lot easier to man/woman-handle. Except for CMC
sites, two even shorter cables connecting if needed (but rarely)
definitely my preferred option.

Campervan Tim
in storm-free, sunny Spain



UKMotorhomes.net

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 12:33, Bennett Family
<martin@... <mailto:martin@...>>
wrote:

Andy, Ern

Thanks.

Any idea of the weight difference for a 25m length of each? I
doubt f it
will be significant in the grand scheme of things.

Martin


On 15 Feb 2020, at 12:21, Andy Clarke via Groups.Io
<andyclarke1050=
gmail.com@groups.io <mailto:gmail.com@groups.io>> wrote:


1.5mm cable is OK for up to 3kW assuming an allowable voltage
drop of 5%
and that the cable is in free air, i.e. not on a reel or
closely coiled.

Andy Clarke
www.ukmotorhomes.net <http://www.ukmotorhomes.net>

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 21:05, Bennett Family
<martin@... <mailto:martin@...>>
wrote:

Is there any advantage in using 2.5mm rather than 1.5mm given
that most
of us are unlikely to use more than 2kw?
Just demonstrating my ignorance.
If no advantage then the lighter weight, blue, cable would
seem to make
sense.

Martin










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Re: EHU cable 1.5mm/2.5mm orange or blue?

Bennett Family
 

CMC rules seem to make cables of less than 23m “illegal” even if next to the bollard - so best dump your short cable and ensure that your full sized replacement has been supplied by the “caravan manufacturer” - would be as well to have a receipt. Disconnect in very cold weather as it may not pass the “flexible” test. 

Jobsworth 


On 16 Feb 2020, at 08:25, timsinc Sinclair via Groups.Io <timsinc@...> wrote:


Well, the CMC rules say: "The maximum permitted distance between socket outlet and any point on the caravan pitch is 20 metres.
"The hook up lead should be 25 metres (+/- 2 metres) of flexible cable supplied by the caravan manufacturer."
That's where and why, I suppose, joing together of two cables frowned upon. The CCC have a much more relaxed attitude.

No mention of colour or size. Usual stuff about completely unwinding and not leaving plugged into bollard if off for the day - or even doing the empty/filling biz.

"Club site staff have authority to refuse to offer a power supply to a caravan if it is believed that the installation may be unsafe."

Yep, often down to how officious a warden is.

Campervan Tim



On 15 February 2020 5:26:56 pm "Adrian Harman" <adrianharman@...> wrote:

I’m also confused??

Adrian 
On 15 Feb 2020, 17:24 +0000, Richard <edelec@...>, wrote:
I am amazed at what I am reading! What are these caravan rules with
regard to cables?
Richard

On 15/02/2020 16:53, Carol Weaver wrote:

Well our blue one has been used on both CCC and old CC (not in latter
now) without any problems.

Carol

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 16:49, Sandytrax <brianinspain12@...
<mailto:brianinspain12@...>> wrote:

Thanks to all for your thoughts.
My further research indicates that standard ehu cables commonly
available on the market are orange 2.5mm. These meet the standards
of the NCC and the CCC.

Also available but not so common are orange 1.5mm but these are
not approved by the NCC.

I’ve hated using the two 2.5mm orange cables that I’ve owned
because they have quickly become inflexible, tangled  and hard to
wind up.

So I’ve just bought a 25m orange 1.5 cable from Go Outdoors. It
says on the pack that it’s not suitable for caravan sites and
should not be used in wet or damp conditions!!
However, it is marketed as a Motorhome ehu on many websites.
So that’s a bit mysterious.

Go Outdoors Price is £30 but I found it for £22 on another website
and with their price guarantee, they sold it to me for £20. Bargain!

I’m sure it will be fine.
And my heart won’t sink when I need to use a hook up.
Cheers
Brian



On 15 Feb 2020, at 13:17, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...
<mailto:timsinc@...>> wrote:

On 15/02/2020, Andy Clarke <andyclarke1050@...
<mailto:andyclarke1050@...>> wrote:
25m of 1.5mm is approx 1.5kg lighter that 25m of 2.5mm


... and a heck of a lot easier to man/woman-handle. Except for CMC
sites, two even shorter cables connecting if needed (but rarely)
definitely my preferred option.

Campervan Tim
in storm-free, sunny Spain



UKMotorhomes.net

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 12:33, Bennett Family
<martin@... <mailto:martin@...>>
wrote:

Andy, Ern

Thanks.

Any idea of the weight difference for a 25m length of each? I
doubt f it
will be significant in the grand scheme of things.

Martin


On 15 Feb 2020, at 12:21, Andy Clarke via Groups.Io
<andyclarke1050=
gmail.com@groups.io <mailto:gmail.com@groups.io>> wrote:


1.5mm cable is OK for up to 3kW assuming an allowable voltage
drop of 5%
and that the cable is in free air, i.e. not on a reel or
closely coiled.

Andy Clarke
www.ukmotorhomes.net <http://www.ukmotorhomes.net>

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 21:05, Bennett Family
<martin@... <mailto:martin@...>>
wrote:

Is there any advantage in using 2.5mm rather than 1.5mm given
that most
of us are unlikely to use more than 2kw?
Just demonstrating my ignorance.
If no advantage then the lighter weight, blue, cable would
seem to make
sense.

Martin










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Re: EHU cable 1.5mm/2.5mm orange or blue?

timsinc Sinclair
 

Well, the CMC rules say: "The maximum permitted distance between socket outlet and any point on the caravan pitch is 20 metres.
"The hook up lead should be 25 metres (+/- 2 metres) of flexible cable supplied by the caravan manufacturer."
That's where and why, I suppose, joing together of two cables frowned upon. The CCC have a much more relaxed attitude.

No mention of colour or size. Usual stuff about completely unwinding and not leaving plugged into bollard if off for the day - or even doing the empty/filling biz.

"Club site staff have authority to refuse to offer a power supply to a caravan if it is believed that the installation may be unsafe."

Yep, often down to how officious a warden is.

Campervan Tim



On 15 February 2020 5:26:56 pm "Adrian Harman" <adrianharman@...> wrote:

I’m also confused??

Adrian 
On 15 Feb 2020, 17:24 +0000, Richard <edelec@...>, wrote:
I am amazed at what I am reading! What are these caravan rules with
regard to cables?
Richard

On 15/02/2020 16:53, Carol Weaver wrote:

Well our blue one has been used on both CCC and old CC (not in latter
now) without any problems.

Carol

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 16:49, Sandytrax <brianinspain12@...
<mailto:brianinspain12@...>> wrote:

Thanks to all for your thoughts.
My further research indicates that standard ehu cables commonly
available on the market are orange 2.5mm. These meet the standards
of the NCC and the CCC.

Also available but not so common are orange 1.5mm but these are
not approved by the NCC.

I’ve hated using the two 2.5mm orange cables that I’ve owned
because they have quickly become inflexible, tangled  and hard to
wind up.

So I’ve just bought a 25m orange 1.5 cable from Go Outdoors. It
says on the pack that it’s not suitable for caravan sites and
should not be used in wet or damp conditions!!
However, it is marketed as a Motorhome ehu on many websites.
So that’s a bit mysterious.

Go Outdoors Price is £30 but I found it for £22 on another website
and with their price guarantee, they sold it to me for £20. Bargain!

I’m sure it will be fine.
And my heart won’t sink when I need to use a hook up.
Cheers
Brian



On 15 Feb 2020, at 13:17, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...
<mailto:timsinc@...>> wrote:

On 15/02/2020, Andy Clarke <andyclarke1050@...
<mailto:andyclarke1050@...>> wrote:
25m of 1.5mm is approx 1.5kg lighter that 25m of 2.5mm


... and a heck of a lot easier to man/woman-handle. Except for CMC
sites, two even shorter cables connecting if needed (but rarely)
definitely my preferred option.

Campervan Tim
in storm-free, sunny Spain



UKMotorhomes.net

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 12:33, Bennett Family
<martin@... <mailto:martin@...>>
wrote:

Andy, Ern

Thanks.

Any idea of the weight difference for a 25m length of each? I
doubt f it
will be significant in the grand scheme of things.

Martin


On 15 Feb 2020, at 12:21, Andy Clarke via Groups.Io
<andyclarke1050=
gmail.com@groups.io <mailto:gmail.com@groups.io>> wrote:


1.5mm cable is OK for up to 3kW assuming an allowable voltage
drop of 5%
and that the cable is in free air, i.e. not on a reel or
closely coiled.

Andy Clarke
www.ukmotorhomes.net <http://www.ukmotorhomes.net>

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 21:05, Bennett Family
<martin@... <mailto:martin@...>>
wrote:

Is there any advantage in using 2.5mm rather than 1.5mm given
that most
of us are unlikely to use more than 2kw?
Just demonstrating my ignorance.
If no advantage then the lighter weight, blue, cable would
seem to make
sense.

Martin










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Re: EHU cable 1.5mm/2.5mm orange or blue?

Adrian Harman
 

I’m also confused??

Adrian 

On 15 Feb 2020, 17:24 +0000, Richard <edelec@...>, wrote:
I am amazed at what I am reading! What are these caravan rules with
regard to cables?
Richard

On 15/02/2020 16:53, Carol Weaver wrote:

Well our blue one has been used on both CCC and old CC (not in latter
now) without any problems.

Carol

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 16:49, Sandytrax <brianinspain12@...
<mailto:brianinspain12@...>> wrote:

Thanks to all for your thoughts.
My further research indicates that standard ehu cables commonly
available on the market are orange 2.5mm. These meet the standards
of the NCC and the CCC.

Also available but not so common are orange 1.5mm but these are
not approved by the NCC.

I’ve hated using the two 2.5mm orange cables that I’ve owned
because they have quickly become inflexible, tangled  and hard to
wind up.

So I’ve just bought a 25m orange 1.5 cable from Go Outdoors. It
says on the pack that it’s not suitable for caravan sites and
should not be used in wet or damp conditions!!
However, it is marketed as a Motorhome ehu on many websites.
So that’s a bit mysterious.

Go Outdoors Price is £30 but I found it for £22 on another website
and with their price guarantee, they sold it to me for £20. Bargain!

I’m sure it will be fine.
And my heart won’t sink when I need to use a hook up.
Cheers
Brian



On 15 Feb 2020, at 13:17, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...
<mailto:timsinc@...>> wrote:

On 15/02/2020, Andy Clarke <andyclarke1050@...
<mailto:andyclarke1050@...>> wrote:
25m of 1.5mm is approx 1.5kg lighter that 25m of 2.5mm


... and a heck of a lot easier to man/woman-handle. Except for CMC
sites, two even shorter cables connecting if needed (but rarely)
definitely my preferred option.

Campervan Tim
in storm-free, sunny Spain



UKMotorhomes.net

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 12:33, Bennett Family
<martin@... <mailto:martin@...>>
wrote:

Andy, Ern

Thanks.

Any idea of the weight difference for a 25m length of each? I
doubt f it
will be significant in the grand scheme of things.

Martin


On 15 Feb 2020, at 12:21, Andy Clarke via Groups.Io
<andyclarke1050=
gmail.com@groups.io <mailto:gmail.com@groups.io>> wrote:


1.5mm cable is OK for up to 3kW assuming an allowable voltage
drop of 5%
and that the cable is in free air, i.e. not on a reel or
closely coiled.

Andy Clarke
www.ukmotorhomes.net <http://www.ukmotorhomes.net>

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 21:05, Bennett Family
<martin@... <mailto:martin@...>>
wrote:

Is there any advantage in using 2.5mm rather than 1.5mm given
that most
of us are unlikely to use more than 2kw?
Just demonstrating my ignorance.
If no advantage then the lighter weight, blue, cable would
seem to make
sense.

Martin










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Re: EHU cable 1.5mm/2.5mm orange or blue?

Richard
 

Apologies should read

I am amazed at what I am reading! What are these caravan site actual
rules with regard to cables?
Richard

On 15/02/2020 17:24, Edelec wrote:
I am amazed at what I am reading! What are these caravan rules with
regard to cables?
Richard

On 15/02/2020 16:53, Carol Weaver wrote:

Well our blue one has been used on both CCC and old CC (not in latter
now) without any problems.

Carol

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 16:49, Sandytrax <brianinspain12@...
<mailto:brianinspain12@...>> wrote:

    Thanks to all for your thoughts.
    My further research indicates that standard ehu cables commonly
    available on the market are orange 2.5mm. These meet the standards
    of the NCC and the CCC.

    Also available but not so common are orange 1.5mm but these are
    not approved by the NCC.

    I’ve hated using the two 2.5mm orange cables that I’ve owned
    because they have quickly become inflexible, tangled  and hard to
    wind up.

    So I’ve just bought a 25m orange 1.5 cable from Go Outdoors. It
    says on the pack that it’s not suitable for caravan sites and
    should not be used in wet or damp conditions!!
    However, it is marketed as a Motorhome ehu on many websites.
    So that’s a bit mysterious.

    Go Outdoors Price is £30 but I found it for £22 on another website
    and with their price guarantee, they sold it to me for £20. Bargain!

    I’m sure it will be fine.
    And my heart won’t sink when I need to use a hook up.
    Cheers
    Brian



    > On 15 Feb 2020, at 13:17, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...
    <mailto:timsinc@...>> wrote:
    >
    > On 15/02/2020, Andy Clarke <andyclarke1050@...
    <mailto:andyclarke1050@...>> wrote:
    >> 25m of 1.5mm is approx 1.5kg lighter that 25m of 2.5mm
    >>
    >
    > ... and a heck of a lot easier to man/woman-handle. Except for CMC
    > sites, two even shorter cables connecting if needed (but rarely)
    > definitely my preferred option.
    >
    > Campervan Tim
    > in storm-free, sunny Spain
    >
    >
    >
    >> UKMotorhomes.net
    >>
    >>> On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 12:33, Bennett Family
    <martin@... <mailto:martin@...>>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Andy, Ern
    >>>
    >>> Thanks.
    >>>
    >>> Any idea of the weight difference for a 25m length of each? I
    doubt f it
    >>> will be significant in the grand scheme of things.
    >>>
    >>> Martin
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 15 Feb 2020, at 12:21, Andy Clarke via Groups.Io
    <andyclarke1050=
    >>> gmail.com@groups.io <mailto:gmail.com@groups.io>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> 
    >>> 1.5mm cable is OK for up to 3kW assuming an allowable voltage
    drop of 5%
    >>> and that the cable is in free air, i.e. not on a reel or
    closely coiled.
    >>>
    >>> Andy Clarke
    >>> www.ukmotorhomes.net <http://www.ukmotorhomes.net>
    >>>
    >>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 21:05, Bennett Family
    <martin@... <mailto:martin@...>>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Is there any advantage in using 2.5mm rather than 1.5mm given
    that most
    >>>> of us are unlikely to use more than 2kw?
    >>>> Just demonstrating my ignorance.
    >>>> If no advantage then the lighter weight, blue, cable would
    seem to make
    >>>> sense.
    >>>>
    >>>> Martin
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
    > --
    >
    > *It'll all be OK in the end. If it's not OK, it's not the end*
    >
    >
    >



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Re: EHU cable 1.5mm/2.5mm orange or blue?

Richard
 

I am amazed at what I am reading! What are these caravan rules with
regard to cables?
Richard

On 15/02/2020 16:53, Carol Weaver wrote:

Well our blue one has been used on both CCC and old CC (not in latter
now) without any problems.

Carol

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 16:49, Sandytrax <brianinspain12@...
<mailto:brianinspain12@...>> wrote:

Thanks to all for your thoughts.
My further research indicates that standard ehu cables commonly
available on the market are orange 2.5mm. These meet the standards
of the NCC and the CCC.

Also available but not so common are orange 1.5mm but these are
not approved by the NCC.

I’ve hated using the two 2.5mm orange cables that I’ve owned
because they have quickly become inflexible, tangled  and hard to
wind up.

So I’ve just bought a 25m orange 1.5 cable from Go Outdoors. It
says on the pack that it’s not suitable for caravan sites and
should not be used in wet or damp conditions!!
However, it is marketed as a Motorhome ehu on many websites.
So that’s a bit mysterious.

Go Outdoors Price is £30 but I found it for £22 on another website
and with their price guarantee, they sold it to me for £20. Bargain!

I’m sure it will be fine.
And my heart won’t sink when I need to use a hook up.
Cheers
Brian



> On 15 Feb 2020, at 13:17, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...
<mailto:timsinc@...>> wrote:
>
> On 15/02/2020, Andy Clarke <andyclarke1050@...
<mailto:andyclarke1050@...>> wrote:
>> 25m of 1.5mm is approx 1.5kg lighter that 25m of 2.5mm
>>
>
> ... and a heck of a lot easier to man/woman-handle. Except for CMC
> sites, two even shorter cables connecting if needed (but rarely)
> definitely my preferred option.
>
> Campervan Tim
> in storm-free, sunny Spain
>
>
>
>> UKMotorhomes.net
>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 12:33, Bennett Family
<martin@... <mailto:martin@...>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Andy, Ern
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Any idea of the weight difference for a 25m length of each? I
doubt f it
>>> will be significant in the grand scheme of things.
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15 Feb 2020, at 12:21, Andy Clarke via Groups.Io
<andyclarke1050=
>>> gmail.com@groups.io <mailto:gmail.com@groups.io>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> 1.5mm cable is OK for up to 3kW assuming an allowable voltage
drop of 5%
>>> and that the cable is in free air, i.e. not on a reel or
closely coiled.
>>>
>>> Andy Clarke
>>> www.ukmotorhomes.net <http://www.ukmotorhomes.net>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 21:05, Bennett Family
<martin@... <mailto:martin@...>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there any advantage in using 2.5mm rather than 1.5mm given
that most
>>>> of us are unlikely to use more than 2kw?
>>>> Just demonstrating my ignorance.
>>>> If no advantage then the lighter weight, blue, cable would
seem to make
>>>> sense.
>>>>
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> *It'll all be OK in the end. If it's not OK, it's not the end*
>
>
>



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Re: EHU cable 1.5mm/2.5mm orange or blue?

Carol Weaver
 


Well our blue one has been used on both CCC and old CC (not in latter now) without any problems. 

Carol


On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 16:49, Sandytrax <brianinspain12@...> wrote:
Thanks to all for your thoughts.
My further research indicates that standard ehu cables commonly available on the market are orange 2.5mm. These meet the standards of the NCC and the CCC.

Also available but not so common are orange 1.5mm but these are not approved by the NCC.

I’ve hated using the two 2.5mm orange cables that I’ve owned because they have quickly become inflexible, tangled  and hard to wind up.

So I’ve just bought a 25m orange 1.5 cable from Go Outdoors. It says on the pack that it’s not suitable for caravan sites and should not be used in wet or damp conditions!!
However, it is marketed as a Motorhome ehu on many websites.
So that’s a bit mysterious.

Go Outdoors Price is £30 but I found it for £22 on another website and with their price guarantee, they sold it to me for £20. Bargain!

I’m sure it will be fine.
And my heart won’t sink when I need to use a hook up.
Cheers
Brian



> On 15 Feb 2020, at 13:17, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...> wrote:
>
> On 15/02/2020, Andy Clarke <andyclarke1050@...> wrote:
>> 25m of 1.5mm is approx 1.5kg lighter that 25m of 2.5mm
>>
>
> ... and a heck of a lot easier to man/woman-handle. Except for CMC
> sites, two even shorter cables connecting if needed (but rarely)
> definitely my preferred option.
>
> Campervan Tim
> in storm-free, sunny Spain
>
>
>
>> UKMotorhomes.net
>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 12:33, Bennett Family <martin@...>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Andy, Ern
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Any idea of the weight difference for a 25m length of each? I doubt f it
>>> will be significant in the grand scheme of things.
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15 Feb 2020, at 12:21, Andy Clarke via Groups.Io <andyclarke1050=
>>> gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> 1.5mm cable is OK for up to 3kW assuming an allowable voltage drop of 5%
>>> and that the cable is in free air, i.e. not on a reel or closely coiled.
>>>
>>> Andy Clarke
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>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 21:05, Bennett Family <martin@...>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> Is there any advantage in using 2.5mm rather than 1.5mm given that most
>>>> of us are unlikely to use more than 2kw?
>>>> Just demonstrating my ignorance.
>>>> If no advantage then the lighter weight, blue, cable would seem to make
>>>> sense.
>>>>
>>>> Martin
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Re: EHU cable 1.5mm/2.5mm orange or blue?

Sandytrax
 

Thanks to all for your thoughts.
My further research indicates that standard ehu cables commonly available on the market are orange 2.5mm. These meet the standards of the NCC and the CCC.

Also available but not so common are orange 1.5mm but these are not approved by the NCC.

I’ve hated using the two 2.5mm orange cables that I’ve owned because they have quickly become inflexible, tangled and hard to wind up.

So I’ve just bought a 25m orange 1.5 cable from Go Outdoors. It says on the pack that it’s not suitable for caravan sites and should not be used in wet or damp conditions!!
However, it is marketed as a Motorhome ehu on many websites.
So that’s a bit mysterious.

Go Outdoors Price is £30 but I found it for £22 on another website and with their price guarantee, they sold it to me for £20. Bargain!

I’m sure it will be fine.
And my heart won’t sink when I need to use a hook up.
Cheers
Brian

On 15 Feb 2020, at 13:17, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...> wrote:

On 15/02/2020, Andy Clarke <andyclarke1050@...> wrote:
25m of 1.5mm is approx 1.5kg lighter that 25m of 2.5mm
... and a heck of a lot easier to man/woman-handle. Except for CMC
sites, two even shorter cables connecting if needed (but rarely)
definitely my preferred option.

Campervan Tim
in storm-free, sunny Spain



UKMotorhomes.net

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 12:33, Bennett Family <martin@...>
wrote:

Andy, Ern

Thanks.

Any idea of the weight difference for a 25m length of each? I doubt f it
will be significant in the grand scheme of things.

Martin


On 15 Feb 2020, at 12:21, Andy Clarke via Groups.Io <andyclarke1050=
gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:


1.5mm cable is OK for up to 3kW assuming an allowable voltage drop of 5%
and that the cable is in free air, i.e. not on a reel or closely coiled.

Andy Clarke
www.ukmotorhomes.net

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 21:05, Bennett Family <martin@...>
wrote:

Is there any advantage in using 2.5mm rather than 1.5mm given that most
of us are unlikely to use more than 2kw?
Just demonstrating my ignorance.
If no advantage then the lighter weight, blue, cable would seem to make
sense.

Martin




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Re: EHU cable 1.5mm/2.5mm orange or blue?

timsinc Sinclair
 

On 15/02/2020, Andy Clarke <andyclarke1050@...> wrote:
25m of 1.5mm is approx 1.5kg lighter that 25m of 2.5mm
... and a heck of a lot easier to man/woman-handle. Except for CMC
sites, two even shorter cables connecting if needed (but rarely)
definitely my preferred option.

Campervan Tim
in storm-free, sunny Spain



UKMotorhomes.net

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 12:33, Bennett Family <martin@...>
wrote:

Andy, Ern

Thanks.

Any idea of the weight difference for a 25m length of each? I doubt f it
will be significant in the grand scheme of things.

Martin


On 15 Feb 2020, at 12:21, Andy Clarke via Groups.Io <andyclarke1050=
gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:


1.5mm cable is OK for up to 3kW assuming an allowable voltage drop of 5%
and that the cable is in free air, i.e. not on a reel or closely coiled.

Andy Clarke
www.ukmotorhomes.net

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 21:05, Bennett Family <martin@...>
wrote:

Is there any advantage in using 2.5mm rather than 1.5mm given that most
of us are unlikely to use more than 2kw?
Just demonstrating my ignorance.
If no advantage then the lighter weight, blue, cable would seem to make
sense.

Martin




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*It'll all be OK in the end. If it's not OK, it's not the end*

Re: EHU cable 1.5mm/2.5mm orange or blue?

Bennett Family
 

Thanks - every little helps when limited to 3,500kg, but I think I should start by shedding quite a few kilos myself!

Martin


On 15 Feb 2020, at 12:58, Andy Clarke via Groups.Io <andyclarke1050@...> wrote:


25m of 1.5mm is approx 1.5kg lighter that 25m of 2.5mm

Andy Clarke
UKMotorhomes.net

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 12:33, Bennett Family <martin@...> wrote:
Andy, Ern

Thanks.

Any idea of the weight difference for a 25m length of each? I doubt f it will be significant in the grand scheme of things.

Martin


On 15 Feb 2020, at 12:21, Andy Clarke via Groups.Io <andyclarke1050=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:


1.5mm cable is OK for up to 3kW assuming an allowable voltage drop of 5% and that the cable is in free air, i.e. not on a reel or closely coiled.

Andy Clarke

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 21:05, Bennett Family <martin@...> wrote:
Is there any advantage in using 2.5mm rather than 1.5mm given that most of us are unlikely to use more than 2kw?
Just demonstrating my ignorance. 
If no advantage then the lighter weight, blue, cable would seem to make sense. 

Martin

Re: EHU cable 1.5mm/2.5mm orange or blue?

Andy Clarke
 

25m of 1.5mm is approx 1.5kg lighter that 25m of 2.5mm

Andy Clarke
UKMotorhomes.net

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 12:33, Bennett Family <martin@...> wrote:
Andy, Ern

Thanks.

Any idea of the weight difference for a 25m length of each? I doubt f it will be significant in the grand scheme of things.

Martin


On 15 Feb 2020, at 12:21, Andy Clarke via Groups.Io <andyclarke1050=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:


1.5mm cable is OK for up to 3kW assuming an allowable voltage drop of 5% and that the cable is in free air, i.e. not on a reel or closely coiled.

Andy Clarke

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 21:05, Bennett Family <martin@...> wrote:
Is there any advantage in using 2.5mm rather than 1.5mm given that most of us are unlikely to use more than 2kw?
Just demonstrating my ignorance. 
If no advantage then the lighter weight, blue, cable would seem to make sense. 

Martin

Re: EHU cable 1.5mm/2.5mm orange or blue?

Bennett Family
 

Andy, Ern

Thanks.

Any idea of the weight difference for a 25m length of each? I doubt f it will be significant in the grand scheme of things.

Martin


On 15 Feb 2020, at 12:21, Andy Clarke via Groups.Io <andyclarke1050@...> wrote:


1.5mm cable is OK for up to 3kW assuming an allowable voltage drop of 5% and that the cable is in free air, i.e. not on a reel or closely coiled.

Andy Clarke

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 21:05, Bennett Family <martin@...> wrote:
Is there any advantage in using 2.5mm rather than 1.5mm given that most of us are unlikely to use more than 2kw?
Just demonstrating my ignorance. 
If no advantage then the lighter weight, blue, cable would seem to make sense. 

Martin

Re: EHU cable 1.5mm/2.5mm orange or blue?

Andy Clarke
 

1.5mm cable is OK for up to 3kW assuming an allowable voltage drop of 5% and that the cable is in free air, i.e. not on a reel or closely coiled.

Andy Clarke


On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 21:05, Bennett Family <martin@...> wrote:
Is there any advantage in using 2.5mm rather than 1.5mm given that most of us are unlikely to use more than 2kw?
Just demonstrating my ignorance. 
If no advantage then the lighter weight, blue, cable would seem to make sense. 

Martin

Re: EHU cable 1.5mm/2.5mm orange or blue?

Ernest Bull
 

On 14 Feb 2020, at 21:05, Bennett Family <martin@...> wrote:

Is there any advantage in using 2.5mm rather than 1.5mm given that most of us are unlikely to use more than 2kw?

None whatsoever, Martin. The bigger cable will only add to your payload.
_________

ErnB

Re: EHU cable 1.5mm/2.5mm orange or blue?

Bennett Family
 

Is there any advantage in using 2.5mm rather than 1.5mm given that most of us are unlikely to use more than 2kw?
Just demonstrating my ignorance. 
If no advantage then the lighter weight, blue, cable would seem to make sense. 

Martin


On 14 Feb 2020, at 12:46, Steve Pyke via Groups.Io <esspyke@...> wrote:


Hi,

I have a 10 metre blue arctic cable bought from Screwfix that gets used most of the time. I have used it at CMC sites without any problems. 

I also have a 25 metre orange thicker cable that gets used very occasionally and have joined them together a couple of times. I don't use a winder but loop them by hand using the natural "lay" of the cable - some loops forward and some back so you don't force any twists. As stated earlier there are several YouTube videos. The 25 metre one becomes a bit of a handful for the last few turns.

I use a wide velcro strap with a built in snap hook to hold them together and if wet pull them through one of those microfibre polishing gloves as I wind it up.

The continentals seem to use very long thin black cables on a drum and never unwind them as far as I have seen.

Who knew we could have such a long thread on a practical motorhome related topic??!!

Steve

Re: EHU cable 1.5mm/2.5mm orange or blue?

Steve Pyke
 

Hi,

I have a 10 metre blue arctic cable bought from Screwfix that gets used most of the time. I have used it at CMC sites without any problems. 

I also have a 25 metre orange thicker cable that gets used very occasionally and have joined them together a couple of times. I don't use a winder but loop them by hand using the natural "lay" of the cable - some loops forward and some back so you don't force any twists. As stated earlier there are several YouTube videos. The 25 metre one becomes a bit of a handful for the last few turns.

I use a wide velcro strap with a built in snap hook to hold them together and if wet pull them through one of those microfibre polishing gloves as I wind it up.

The continentals seem to use very long thin black cables on a drum and never unwind them as far as I have seen.

Who knew we could have such a long thread on a practical motorhome related topic??!!

Steve

Re: EHU cable 1.5mm/2.5mm orange or blue?

Peter S
 

My orange one has lasted 15 years and more. I had it when we had ca..vans and we bought our first motorhome about 17 years ago.

 

Peter S

 

From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bennett Family
Sent: 13 February 2020 11:53
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: Re: [motorhome-list] EHU cable 1.5mm/2.5mm orange or blue?

 

The best device for winding I had was a grey hard plastic Australian made winder. It was brilliant. Light, compact and easy to use - far better than the orange ones. It lasted about 15 years until one night in the dark I managed somehow to jam the cable and broke the device. 

I bought it from CCC SHEFFIELD (now Go Outdoor) I can’t remember the maker’s name but would buy another if I saw one. 

 

Martin



On 13 Feb 2020, at 11:20, Peter S via Groups.Io <peter@...> wrote:



I used an orange cable I got with a ca..van many many years ago without any problem with stiffening in cold weather. When I got the present van nearly 3 years ago I thought, in honour of the occasion, I would use the new orange cable that came with the van. I carry a spare cable to act as an extension but that is rarely used.

 

The cable that gets regularly used gets wound on one of those orange/red Cable Tidies - under a tenner on Amazon - and this is then put into a waterproof bag. I have never wiped the cable when rewinding. Using the tidy means you can keep your hands clean and there are no tangles to untangle.

 

Peter S

On 13/02/2020 08:33:21, Sandytrax <brianinspain12@...> wrote:

Do you have a great EHU cable that doesn't go inflexible after a short time?
I've had two 25m orange 2.5mm cables and both have been useless after a while.
I loathe using the cable I have and plan to change it for something better.
Other folks don't seem to have the same problem and many appear to be thinner and much more flexible.
And, of course, our EU friends tend to use thin, black, flexible cables on a reel.

I've done a lot of google research and discovered that 1.5mm orange cables are widely available and that may be a solution for me.
I've also discovered blue arctic grade cable but that's not so widely available.
I've seen various comments about British Standards and electrical loads etc.

I'm planning to buy this one from Towsure today:
https://www.towsure.com/caravan-extension-mains-lead-25-metre?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0-Lam__N5wIViZntCh3YTQMpEAQYASABEgL9lPD_BwE

Any thoughts would be gratefully welcome.
Cheers
Brian

Re: EHU cable 1.5mm/2.5mm orange or blue?

Bennett Family
 

The best device for winding I had was a grey hard plastic Australian made winder. It was brilliant. Light, compact and easy to use - far better than the orange ones. It lasted about 15 years until one night in the dark I managed somehow to jam the cable and broke the device. 
I bought it from CCC SHEFFIELD (now Go Outdoor) I can’t remember the maker’s name but would buy another if I saw one. 

Martin

On 13 Feb 2020, at 11:20, Peter S via Groups.Io <peter@...> wrote:


I used an orange cable I got with a ca..van many many years ago without any problem with stiffening in cold weather. When I got the present van nearly 3 years ago I thought, in honour of the occasion, I would use the new orange cable that came with the van. I carry a spare cable to act as an extension but that is rarely used.

The cable that gets regularly used gets wound on one of those orange/red Cable Tidies - under a tenner on Amazon - and this is then put into a waterproof bag. I have never wiped the cable when rewinding. Using the tidy means you can keep your hands clean and there are no tangles to untangle.

Peter S

On 13/02/2020 08:33:21, Sandytrax <brianinspain12@...> wrote:

Do you have a great EHU cable that doesn't go inflexible after a short time?
I've had two 25m orange 2.5mm cables and both have been useless after a while.
I loathe using the cable I have and plan to change it for something better.
Other folks don't seem to have the same problem and many appear to be thinner and much more flexible.
And, of course, our EU friends tend to use thin, black, flexible cables on a reel.

I've done a lot of google research and discovered that 1.5mm orange cables are widely available and that may be a solution for me.
I've also discovered blue arctic grade cable but that's not so widely available.
I've seen various comments about British Standards and electrical loads etc.

I'm planning to buy this one from Towsure today:
https://www.towsure.com/caravan-extension-mains-lead-25-metre?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0-Lam__N5wIViZntCh3YTQMpEAQYASABEgL9lPD_BwE

Any thoughts would be gratefully welcome.
Cheers
Brian

Re: EHU cable 1.5mm/2.5mm orange or blue?

Peter S
 

I used an orange cable I got with a ca..van many many years ago without any problem with stiffening in cold weather. When I got the present van nearly 3 years ago I thought, in honour of the occasion, I would use the new orange cable that came with the van. I carry a spare cable to act as an extension but that is rarely used.

The cable that gets regularly used gets wound on one of those orange/red Cable Tidies - under a tenner on Amazon - and this is then put into a waterproof bag. I have never wiped the cable when rewinding. Using the tidy means you can keep your hands clean and there are no tangles to untangle.

Peter S

On 13/02/2020 08:33:21, Sandytrax <brianinspain12@...> wrote:

Do you have a great EHU cable that doesn't go inflexible after a short time?
I've had two 25m orange 2.5mm cables and both have been useless after a while.
I loathe using the cable I have and plan to change it for something better.
Other folks don't seem to have the same problem and many appear to be thinner and much more flexible.
And, of course, our EU friends tend to use thin, black, flexible cables on a reel.

I've done a lot of google research and discovered that 1.5mm orange cables are widely available and that may be a solution for me.
I've also discovered blue arctic grade cable but that's not so widely available.
I've seen various comments about British Standards and electrical loads etc.

I'm planning to buy this one from Towsure today:
https://www.towsure.com/caravan-extension-mains-lead-25-metre?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0-Lam__N5wIViZntCh3YTQMpEAQYASABEgL9lPD_BwE

Any thoughts would be gratefully welcome.
Cheers
Brian