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Re: Move from Yahoo to Groups.io

calypso155
 

Thanks Peter, much appreciated. 

Steve V

Re: Move from Yahoo to Groups.io

timsinc Sinclair
 

On 21/10/2019, Alan Morris <alan.g4ens@...> wrote:

What's wrong with normal e-mailing? Much easier!
Indeed. On my full-time camper travels I have a group of about 60
(family, friends some m-homers, including Carol !) who get my
'Travelogs' (when something to report/photo) by old-fashioned email.

With Whatsapp, my communication is more likely to be personal or
person-specfific. If a message, I get alert on my phone. On my Android
tablet I have 'Tablet Messenger' app that also accesses Whatsapp,
which is my usual way to use it.

TimS

PS, if any fascinated enough, happy to add your email address to my
round-robin Travelog email group.

Re: Move from Yahoo to Groups.io

Carol Weaver
 

We use WhatsApp too. You can set it up to make a sound or /and have an icon showing you there is a message. 

Mine prefer to use it 

Carol

On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 18:17, Alan Morris <alan.g4ens@...> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 16:46, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...> wrote:

> Whatsapp (photos and text) is, when campervanning far and wide, how I
> and off-spring (plus few friends and odd m-homer) communicate.

What's wrong with normal e-mailing?  Much easier!

When I want to e-mail selected friends/family, I've setup small
selections of e-mail addresses.  To send in Gmail, I click on the To:
field and my contacts appear.  In the drop down menu, I select the
named group of people I want to send to and they all appear in the To:
field.

So at Christmas time, I select my 'Xmas Letter' group and they all get
the letter.

Another caravan & camping group suggested using Whasapp.

It's major problem is that to receive a message one has to logon to
see it there are any messages.  E-mails just arrive, with no extra
effort.


Alan.



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Re: Move from Yahoo to Groups.io

Alan Morris
 

On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 16:46, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...> wrote:

Whatsapp (photos and text) is, when campervanning far and wide, how I
and off-spring (plus few friends and odd m-homer) communicate.
What's wrong with normal e-mailing? Much easier!

When I want to e-mail selected friends/family, I've setup small
selections of e-mail addresses. To send in Gmail, I click on the To:
field and my contacts appear. In the drop down menu, I select the
named group of people I want to send to and they all appear in the To:
field.

So at Christmas time, I select my 'Xmas Letter' group and they all get
the letter.

Another caravan & camping group suggested using Whasapp.

It's major problem is that to receive a message one has to logon to
see it there are any messages. E-mails just arrive, with no extra
effort.


Alan.

Re: Move from Yahoo to Groups.io

timsinc Sinclair
 

Whatsapp (photos and text) is, when campervanning far and wide, how I
and off-spring (plus few friends and odd m-homer) communicate.

TimS

On 21/10/2019, Carol Weaver <corconx@...> wrote:
I know my grandchildren joined but left too. I gave up working out where
they went. I hear from them when they want something!!

Carol

On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 17:30, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...> wrote:

On 21/10/2019, Ernest Bull <ernb32@...> wrote:
On 21 Oct 2019, at 09:50, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...> wrote:

Facebook has its attractions - like easy to post and see photos ….
I’m glad that you think so, Tim. I find it totally baffling, and
absolutely
counter-intuitive. Almost as unfathomable as Twitter.
_______
Like Carol, I'm certainly no fan. But it has its uses - be they of the
instant-then-lose-it kind of messages. Maybe, Ern, you need a grandkid
to show you the how - although I gather it's now spurned by youngsters
as 'just for oldies'. !!

TimS



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Re: Move from Yahoo to Groups.io

Carol Weaver
 

I know my grandchildren joined but left too. I gave up working out where they went. I hear from them when they want something!!

Carol

On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 17:30, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...> wrote:
On 21/10/2019, Ernest Bull <ernb32@...> wrote:
> On 21 Oct 2019, at 09:50, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...> wrote:
>
>> Facebook has its attractions - like easy to post and see photos ….
>
> I’m glad that you think so, Tim. I find it totally baffling, and absolutely
> counter-intuitive. Almost as unfathomable as Twitter.
> _______

Like Carol, I'm certainly no fan. But it has its uses - be they of the
instant-then-lose-it kind of messages. Maybe, Ern, you need a grandkid
to show you the how - although I gather it's now spurned by youngsters
as 'just for oldies'. !!

TimS



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Re: Move from Yahoo to Groups.io

timsinc Sinclair
 

On 21/10/2019, Ernest Bull <ernb32@...> wrote:
On 21 Oct 2019, at 09:50, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...> wrote:

Facebook has its attractions - like easy to post and see photos ….
I’m glad that you think so, Tim. I find it totally baffling, and absolutely
counter-intuitive. Almost as unfathomable as Twitter.
_______
Like Carol, I'm certainly no fan. But it has its uses - be they of the
instant-then-lose-it kind of messages. Maybe, Ern, you need a grandkid
to show you the how - although I gather it's now spurned by youngsters
as 'just for oldies'. !!

TimS

Re: Move from Yahoo to Groups.io

Ernest Bull
 

On 21 Oct 2019, at 09:50, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...> wrote:

Facebook has its attractions - like easy to post and see photos ….

I’m glad that you think so, Tim. I find it totally baffling, and absolutely counter-intuitive. Almost as unfathomable as Twitter.
_______

ErnB

Re: Move from Yahoo to Groups.io

Alan Morris
 

On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 07:50, Mervyn Pickard <mervyn@...> wrote:

> Have you thought of moving / setting up the group on Facebook?  

If the group moves to FB, then I will not be moving.

A few years ago, I became the chairman of a group of people, who met in person on a regular basis for events.  I inherited control of the group's FB account that I'd never used.  I then began to receive requests to join from folk who had no connection with the group or it's interest, so they were rejected.  After a while I discovered that the majority of FB members, where not even connected with the group!

Alan.

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Re: Move from Yahoo to Groups.io

Carol Weaver
 


Use Facebook but hate it. Difficult to find things you saw a few minutes ago. As Tim says these groups are far better every time

Carol


On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 09:50, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...> wrote:
On 21/10/2019, Mervyn Pickard <mervyn@...> wrote:
> Have you thought of moving / setting up the group on Facebook?
>
Facebook has its attractions - like easy to post and see photos - and
a possible wider audience. But I sense that folk here - and on the OT
list - prefer the more intimate feel of our groups, where it's almost
like we all know one another.

Plus, writing a post at any length (long can be required for certain
topics) is not handled so well by FB. Or so readable.

Just my take, while being also a member of some m-home FB groups, such
as the SearchForSites one.

TimS



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Re: Move from Yahoo to Groups.io

timsinc Sinclair
 

On 21/10/2019, Mervyn Pickard <mervyn@...> wrote:
Have you thought of moving / setting up the group on Facebook?
Facebook has its attractions - like easy to post and see photos - and
a possible wider audience. But I sense that folk here - and on the OT
list - prefer the more intimate feel of our groups, where it's almost
like we all know one another.

Plus, writing a post at any length (long can be required for certain
topics) is not handled so well by FB. Or so readable.

Just my take, while being also a member of some m-home FB groups, such
as the SearchForSites one.

TimS

Re: Move from Yahoo to Groups.io

Mervyn Pickard
 

Have you thought of moving / setting up the group on Facebook?  

 

 

Re: Move from Yahoo to Groups.io

timsinc Sinclair
 

Well it didn't cost a penny when I followed and transferred the OT
list from Yahoo to groupsio - but then maybe it was to attract custom
in the early days. I'm afraid I wasn't as diligent as you, Peter, and
ignored all the old posts on Yahoo. Not really as so important because
mainly opinions rather than facts for future reference.

Ern did try to find some old postings at one stage. Maybe he'll chip in.

TimS

On 20/10/2019, Peter S <peter@...> wrote:
Have a look here:-

https://groups.io/yahootransfer

When we transferred the old posts were left on Yahoo so we didn't have to
pay anything if we wanted them we would have had to pay. It looks like they
may have changed the system and will charge for the first year but you can
then downgrade to free if the free version is adequate for your needs. You
really need to go through all the info at Groups.io to see what the exact
situation is.

I think I transferred the files and photos myself by downloading from Yahoo
and then uploading to Groups.io but can't remember exactly now.

I will have a look to see if we can get the old posts transferred but they
are really only of historical interest now I think. Has anybody logged onto
Yahoo Groups since we moved?

Peter S
Group Owner

On 20/10/2019 13:38:51, calypso155 <steve-varden@...> wrote:
Can anyone tell me if there was/is a cost involved in moving the
motorhome-list Move Yahoo to Groups.io?

Yahoo groups is being shutdown at the end of this month and a few of my
other Y-group moderators are saying that it will cost $120 per year to host
on Groups.io!


Cheers,

Steve V


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Re: Move from Yahoo to Groups.io

Peter S
 

Have a look here:-

https://groups.io/yahootransfer

When we transferred the old posts were left on Yahoo so we didn't have to pay anything if we wanted them we would have had to pay. It looks like they may have changed the system and will charge  for the first year but you can then downgrade to free if the free version is adequate for your needs. You really need to go through all the info at Groups.io to see what the exact situation is.

I think I transferred the files and photos myself by downloading from Yahoo and then uploading to Groups.io but can't remember exactly now. 

I will have a look to see if we can get the old posts transferred but they are really only of historical interest now I think.  Has anybody logged onto Yahoo Groups since we moved?

Peter S
Group Owner

On 20/10/2019 13:38:51, calypso155 <steve-varden@...> wrote:

Can anyone tell me if there was/is a cost involved in moving the motorhome-list Move Yahoo to Groups.io?

Yahoo groups is being shutdown at the end of this month and a few of my other Y-group moderators are saying that it will cost $120 per year to host on Groups.io!

Cheers,
 
Steve V

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Move from Yahoo to Groups.io

calypso155
 

Can anyone tell me if there was/is a cost involved in moving the motorhome-list Move Yahoo to Groups.io?

Yahoo groups is being shutdown at the end of this month and a few of my other Y-group moderators are saying that it will cost $120 per year to host on Groups.io!

Cheers,
 
Steve V

Re: VWCampersales & NEC

Trevor Mace
 

On 18-10-2019 18:03, Bennett Family wrote:
I spoke to a lady from VWCampersales on the Westfalia stand (I think)
at the NEC yesterday. She was very pleasant demonstrated the vehicle
well and seemed to know her stuff.
Bought our Westfalia from Rob at Campersales last year. Rob is a top guy to deal with - gave us an amazing trade in price for our Bilbos Celex
Trevor

Re: VWCampersales & NEC

timsinc Sinclair
 

On 18/10/2019, Bennett Family <martin@...> wrote:
I spoke to a lady from VWCampersales on the Westfalia stand (I think) at the
NEC yesterday. She was very pleasant demonstrated the vehicle well and
seemed to know her stuff.
They're small outfit. Rob's the boss, Graham the 'fixer' and there's a
secretary/assistant whom you may have spoken to. Or maybe his wife?

TimS

Re: VWCampersales & NEC

Bennett Family
 

I spoke to a lady from VWCampersales on the Westfalia stand (I think) at the NEC yesterday. She was very pleasant demonstrated the vehicle well and seemed to know her stuff.

Prices were high everywhere I looked - so high that the new excise duty made little difference!

And no we are not buying one - but who knows perhaps one day when we downsize further.

It seemed quite busy - the car parks were full but this year they seemed to have increased the size of the walkways and even had some seating. They had also improved the atrium area and toilets since my last visit. We really enjoyed the day.

The CMC told me last week that their temporary site was full and would not put me on a waiting list. In reality it was about a third empty and someone who stayed there confirmed it - so I don’t know what that was about. We stayed at their Chapel Lane site. I did ask three car park attendants about staying overnight in the car park. Their spokesman said that the official line is that it’s not allowed, but he assured me that if I decided to stay I would not be alone! As we had booked the CMC site we went there, but we would have probably gone into the show again today if we had stayed at.the NEC.

Martin

On 18 Oct 2019, at 10:03, timsinc Sinclair via Groups.Io <timsinc=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

On 18/10/2019, Derek Sims <derek.sims@...> wrote:

Sorry for the ramble....
Don't be. I found it interesting, even though I'm not (well yet)
looking to buy a new van.


It’s early days, but so far I would unreservedly recommend Travelworld.
They’re not cheap and only sell products from the Hymer Group, but in the
end it’s value for money and peace of mind that count for us.
Reflects my experience, though not with Travelworld. Bought my T5
Westfalia campervan from Lowdhams because at the time (5 years ago)
they were the only stockist of the new Club Joker. And it was a demo
model with many extras to impress would-be buyers.

For the first year or so I made the long treks to Nottingham (from the
Reading area) for its annual check to keep with warranty terms and
sort out other niggles - which is done by being driven off to some
anonymous service place while you deal with one of an admin team of
folk at desks with computers - but no particular knowledge of your
model - at the showroom

Fed up with that, I found a small campervan dealer much nearer down
Brighton way, now a Westfalia 'agent'/dealer. You actually talk to the
boss/owner - got to know him well after various jobs involving
maintenance (that all homes require!) have been undertaken. Not only
the boss, but his Mr Fix-it guy is on hand to chat with/get advice and
see him at work - with the usual H&S advice not to be in the workshop
space. All very relaxed though.

But he's not cheap - nearing £60 work-time hour. And the price of new
ones - he specialises in the smaller, European van conversions,
including Hymer - look to me horrendous. But as you say, Derek, in the
end value for money is as much about service as qualty of the product.
And I blame the likes of Remis and Dometic for some of my problems.

TimS

PS, details for any others thinking of downsizing: VWCampersales, Unit
K, Sheddingdean Business Centre, Marchants Way, Burgess Hill, West
Sussex, RH15 8QY. Tel: 00441444243888.


Re: Rollerteam Pegaso

Alan Morris
 

On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 01:07, Derek Sims <derek.sims@...> wrote:

You also need to look at the quality of dealer support .... Certainly the dealer is almost as important as the make. We bought a Hymercar from Lowdhams Huddersfield dealership and it was an absolutely awful experience
Derek everything your wrote about that dealer I fully support have
experienced the same.

Re: Rollerteam Pegaso

Alan Morris
 

On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 09:03, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@...> wrote:

> For the first year or so I made the long treks to Nottingham (from the
> Reading area) for its annual check to keep with warranty terms and
> sort out other niggles - which is done by being driven off to some
> anonymous service place while you deal with one of an admin team of
> folk at desks with computers - but no particular knowledge of your
> model - at the showroom

The folk at that "anonymous service place" [see red dots] are like the folk at desks (including the service manager).  They know very little about what they work on.

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> PS, details for any others thinking of downsizing: VWCampersales, Unit
> K, Sheddingdean Business Centre, Marchants Way, Burgess Hill, West
> Sussex, RH15 8QY. Tel: 00441444243888.

I've had a quick look on their website and they look promising.

Alan