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Re: Fiat park brake problem

Brian Reay
 

Thank you Ron, a neat trick to remember ;-)

Regards
Brian


Re: Fiat park brake problem

Ronald V Sutton
 

Yes, Making it longer, but pressing against the ‘nose’ (the narrower end)  of the rivet so that the head isn’t pressing hard against the rib.


Re: Fiat park brake problem

Brian Reay
 

Ron, if I’ve followed your trick / technique correctly, I assume the theory is to force a bit of the head into the shank of the rivet, making it longer. 

Regards
Brian


Re: Fiat park brake problem

Ronald V Sutton
 

My park brake also failed on one wheel on my Talbot Express/Peugeot J5/Citroen Relay. Not sure if the Fiat is the same, but the problem turned out to be the operating lever inside the drum and behind the rearmost brake shoe.
When I removed the drum, disconnected the park brake cable from the operating lever and removed the shoes, I found the lever was binding against the shoe rib. Working it back and forth plus cleaning off dirt helped a bit but the real problem was that the river securing it to the shoe was pressed too tightly. So I pressed the rivet end in a vice against a suitable sized spanner socket around the rivet head on the other side of the shoe rib, which freed it up nicely.
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Re: Filling Gaslow System

Neill King \(MH-List\)
 

Do talk to Gaslow!  www.gaslowdirect.com  sales@...  
I would expect them to help you trace the fault yourself and/or possibly to suggest a dealer local to you.

 

The system, including cylinders, fillhead & autochange, has non-return valves and problems there can restrict flow – in fact autochange is not used in systems for farriers because the flow is never high enough (although perfectly good for motorhomes when working correctly).

 

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From: motorhome-list@groups.io [mailto:motorhome-list@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mick Potter
Sent: 23 July 2019 13:40
To: motorhome-list@groups.io
Subject: [motorhome-list] Filling Gaslow System

 

I have a two cylinder Gaslow system with an automatic changeover valve.  The last few times I have filled it, the filling rate seemed very slow.  Today (in the UK), it started off OK (but I'm not sure of the exact fill rate), and then quickly slowed down to about 1litre per 40 seconds.  The system was not full, as filling slowed down at about £5, and continued until £19, when I gave up through boredom.

A couple of years back, I had a problem with LPG bought in Greece (I had to clean the fridge burner every few days!), and so I now use a sintered filter when filling.  Today the attendant came out to see what was wrong, and gave an opinion that the filter was causing the slow filling.  However, when I stopped filling, I checked the filter, and I could blow through it very easily, so I find it hard to believe that it was restricting the flow.

Is this normal?  What fill rate should I expect?  Or has something broken and I need to have the system looked at by a service engineer?

Any help gratefully received.

Mick


Re: Filling Gaslow System

Christopher Collins
 

Quick suggestion for you not knowing the system, but the filter isn’t in back to front is it?

Is it possible to put it in back to front?

Usually makes a difference with filling things.

Christopher

On 24 Jul 2019, at 1:55 am, Mick Potter <mickpotter@...> wrote:

Hi Clive, 

Thanks for this. Leicester is a bit of a step, I'm in Hampshire, so I should think I'll look for someone more local.

Not quite sure what you mean by 'split' - I'm pretty sure there is no leak, I'd have noticed that amount of gas pouring out! 

The system was close to empty, the switchover had moved from 'main' to 'reserve', and the gauge on the 'reserve' cylinder was about halfway down the green section, although I *think* this means it's less than half full.

Thanks again. 

Bests 

Mick

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Re: Fiat park brake problem

Brian Reay
 

I'd not noticed how 'old' the post was!

The Y in the system is another option, depending on how it works. Some, as you say, have a bits which can bind etc, others are simpler.  I don't recall which the Ducato has. 

The brakes on our trailer (we tow a Smart Car on it) then to bind if I forget and leave them on while it is parked up between trips over the winter. Usually a 'tap' with a mallet frees them. 

Regards
Brian


Re: Filling Gaslow System

Alan Morris
 

On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 16:12, pj_home via Groups.Io
<paul.f.jackson=virgin.net@groups.io> wrote:

Could also be the filling station. We had one near us that took twice as
long to fill as anywhere else.
Like Paul, I've experienced this.

I don't have a filter on the input nor output hoses.

Alan.


Re: Filling Gaslow System

pj_home
 

Could also be the filling station. We had one near us that took twice as long to fill as anywhere else.

Paul

On 23/07/2019 17:03, Bennett Family wrote:
I’m sure you’ve checked for kinks in the feeder hoses. If your filter is a screw on external one similar to the one I have, then ai would try filling up without it and see if that makes a difference.
Martin
On 23 Jul 2019, at 16:56, Mick Potter via Groups.Io <mickpotter=zepler.org@groups.io <mailto:mickpotter=zepler.org@groups.io>> wrote:

Hi Clive,

Thanks for this. Leicester is a bit of a step, I'm in Hampshire, so I should think I'll look for someone more local.

Not quite sure what you mean by 'split' - I'm pretty sure there is no leak, I'd have noticed that amount of gas pouring out!

The system was close to empty, the switchover had moved from 'main' to 'reserve', and the gauge on the 'reserve' cylinder was about halfway down the green section, although I *think* this means it's less than half full.

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Re: Filling Gaslow System

Bennett Family
 

I’m sure you’ve checked for kinks in the feeder hoses. If your filter is a screw on external one similar to the one I have, then ai would try filling up without it and see if that makes a difference. 

Martin 

On 23 Jul 2019, at 16:56, Mick Potter via Groups.Io <mickpotter@...> wrote:

Hi Clive, 

Thanks for this. Leicester is a bit of a step, I'm in Hampshire, so I should think I'll look for someone more local.

Not quite sure what you mean by 'split' - I'm pretty sure there is no leak, I'd have noticed that amount of gas pouring out! 

The system was close to empty, the switchover had moved from 'main' to 'reserve', and the gauge on the 'reserve' cylinder was about halfway down the green section, although I *think* this means it's less than half full.

Thanks again. 

Bests 

Mick

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Re: Filling Gaslow System

Mick Potter
 

Hi Clive, 

Thanks for this. Leicester is a bit of a step, I'm in Hampshire, so I should think I'll look for someone more local.

Not quite sure what you mean by 'split' - I'm pretty sure there is no leak, I'd have noticed that amount of gas pouring out! 

The system was close to empty, the switchover had moved from 'main' to 'reserve', and the gauge on the 'reserve' cylinder was about halfway down the green section, although I *think* this means it's less than half full.

Thanks again. 

Bests 

Mick

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Re: Filling Gaslow System

Clive Bailey
 

Sounds to me as though you  have a split fitting in the supply part of the system. Needs to be checked ASAP.
The chaps at Gaslow Leicester are very good. If you can get there.
At £5 that's half of one cylinder, but at £19 you were nearly empty, which was it?
Regards
Clive

On 23/07/2019 13:39, Mick Potter wrote:
I have a two cylinder Gaslow system with an automatic changeover valve.  The last few times I have filled it, the filling rate seemed very slow.  Today (in the UK), it started off OK (but I'm not sure of the exact fill rate), and then quickly slowed down to about 1litre per 40 seconds.  The system was not full, as filling slowed down at about £5, and continued until £19, when I gave up through boredom.

A couple of years back, I had a problem with LPG bought in Greece (I had to clean the fridge burner every few days!), and so I now use a sintered filter when filling.  Today the attendant came out to see what was wrong, and gave an opinion that the filter was causing the slow filling.  However, when I stopped filling, I checked the filter, and I could blow through it very easily, so I find it hard to believe that it was restricting the flow.

Is this normal?  What fill rate should I expect?  Or has something broken and I need to have the system looked at by a service engineer?

Any help gratefully received.

Mick


Re: Fiat park brake problem

Alan Morris
 

On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 12:54, Brian Reay via Groups.Io
<g8osn=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Having watched how they test cars (and having a MOT tester who is happy to explain things to a curious customer), the handbrake test is done with rollers normally, and they monitor a couple of indicators which show how effective the handbrake is on each side. Is suspect, in your case, while both sides are reaching the required efficiency, the nearside one is a bit slow getting there.

My guess would be that something is binding, perhaps in the drum. I assume like most motorhomes, yours spends a lot of its life parked.
I have the same problem which I posed on 24th June:-

"Our Hymer Exsis T578 Auto had it's first MOT today. It passed, but an
advisory is that the "nearside park brake slower in operation".

What is a slow brake?"

There was no response. I did not know how the test was done. As the
park brake is only used when stopped and driver probably still has a
foot on the foot brakes, I can't see any problem in it being slow!

I would guess that the pull from the hand brake handle would go
through a "Y" swivelling coupling to each wheel. Possibly this needs
lubrication. There would probably be one or more pulley-wheels that a
cable or rod would pass.

With only 2550 miles, I guess it's lack of use.

Alan.


Re: Fiat park brake problem

Brian Reay
 

Having watched how they test cars (and having a MOT tester who is happy to explain things to a curious customer), the handbrake test is done with rollers normally, and they monitor a couple of indicators which show how effective the handbrake is on each side.  Is suspect, in your case, while both sides are reaching the required efficiency, the nearside one is a bit slow getting there. 

My guess would be that something is binding, perhaps in the drum. I assume like most motorhomes, yours spends a lot of its life parked. 

Regards
Brian


Filling Gaslow System

Mick Potter
 

I have a two cylinder Gaslow system with an automatic changeover valve.  The last few times I have filled it, the filling rate seemed very slow.  Today (in the UK), it started off OK (but I'm not sure of the exact fill rate), and then quickly slowed down to about 1litre per 40 seconds.  The system was not full, as filling slowed down at about £5, and continued until £19, when I gave up through boredom.

A couple of years back, I had a problem with LPG bought in Greece (I had to clean the fridge burner every few days!), and so I now use a sintered filter when filling.  Today the attendant came out to see what was wrong, and gave an opinion that the filter was causing the slow filling.  However, when I stopped filling, I checked the filter, and I could blow through it very easily, so I find it hard to believe that it was restricting the flow.

Is this normal?  What fill rate should I expect?  Or has something broken and I need to have the system looked at by a service engineer?

Any help gratefully received.

Mick


Re: Dusseldorf MH Show

calypso155
 

We bought a Frankia there in 2005 and we still have it!

If you are serious about motorhoming then it is THE SHOW to go to! 

You need two days at least to get round the show and probably three if you intend to buy at the show. 

It's a really great show but the campsite is almost better and more educational; if you have a cycle with you then you might just be able to cycle around it in a couple of evenings! 

I would definitely recommend going but don't underestimate the time that you may need to see it all.

Cheers,
 
Steve V
 


Re: Dusseldorf MH Show

Carol Weaver
 

Yes been three times. If really looking to buy we needed four days (five nights). 17 halls!!!  One just for Hymer

Fantastic show highly recommended 

If you do decide to go join the club and you can now book tickets and mh parking online at a discount if you’ve joined

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Carol

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 at 20:02, Phil <g4udu-1@...> wrote:
We are thinking of going to the big show at Dusseldorf at the beginning of September

https://www.caravan-salon.com/en/For_Visitors/Services_for_Visitors/At_a_glance

Has anyone been to see it before ?

Was it a 1 day or 2 days to get around the show ?  Online tickets are 2 days admission so that would indicate this could be a preferred option.

What did you think of it ?

I see they have the facility to stop onsite - there is an online booking system for this and the show tickets.

Any opinions would be very welcome.

Many thanks

Phil

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Phil
 

We are thinking of going to the big show at Dusseldorf at the beginning of September

https://www.caravan-salon.com/en/For_Visitors/Services_for_Visitors/At_a_glance

Has anyone been to see it before ?

Was it a 1 day or 2 days to get around the show ?  Online tickets are 2 days admission so that would indicate this could be a preferred option.

What did you think of it ?

I see they have the facility to stop onsite - there is an online booking system for this and the show tickets.

Any opinions would be very welcome.

Many thanks

Phil


Re: Comfort Insurance M/C Assist Breakdown

Sandytrax
 

Hi Tim

I bought my van in 2017.
It came with a 1 year breakdown warranty, not a lot!
So in my second year I paid £45 to the AA for breakdown cover.
Apart from the total faff of having to find a breakdown company in a frustrating moment (twice) and being covered for any other breakdown event, I think it was a good decision, for me.

But I get your point.

I think I could have a tendency to insure against too much!
Every year I have to renew my van, car, home, travel, breakdown insurances. What level of cover do I really need? How much excess? What if this or that happens?

Happy travels
Brian

On 19 Jul 2019, at 19:18, timsinc Sinclair <timsinc@gmail.com> wrote:

On 19/07/2019, Sandytrax <brianinspain12@gmail.com> wrote:

In my recent experience I think the £45 I paid for AA breakdown cover has
been well worth it.
How many years (£45 of it) have you paid, Brian?

I keep my van in a storage compound ....... and the battery has gone flat on
two occasions.
Both times the AA came within an hour to fix it. The second time the AA recommended a new battery.
I'd suspect that a new battery would come under two years worth of AA
cover (£90). And no problem: you've, it's assumed got a car, to
acquire such.

TimS



Re: Comfort Insurance M/C Assist Breakdown

timsinc Sinclair
 

On 19/07/2019, Sandytrax <brianinspain12@gmail.com> wrote:

In my recent experience I think the £45 I paid for AA breakdown cover has
been well worth it.
How many years (£45 of it) have you paid, Brian?

I keep my van in a storage compound ....... and the battery has gone flat on
two occasions.
Both times the AA came within an hour to fix it. The second time the AA recommended a new battery.
I'd suspect that a new battery would come under two years worth of AA
cover (£90). And no problem: you've, it's assumed got a car, to
acquire such.

TimS

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