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Re: IceCrypt s3500 Satellite Receiver

Carol Weaver
 

The Icecrypt box is no longer available, but Satgear have a replacement FD45SE. You can also get used icecrypt on EBay, but I would prefer to buy from a reputable dealer


Came from thread above. Maybe helpful 

Carol

On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 at 11:10, Ernest Bull <ernb32@...> wrote:


On 19 Apr 2019, at 11:01, Carol Weaver <corconx@...> wrote:

Ernie it went out of business over three years ago ☹️

So I gather. The CEO retired and the sale of IceCrypt fell through. Someone has just taken over/registered the website. I wonder if the business is being resurrected?

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Re: IceCrypt s3500 Satellite Receiver

Carol Weaver
 

Usually because it’s not owned and for sale

Carol

On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 at 11:10, Ernest Bull <ernb32@...> wrote:


On 19 Apr 2019, at 11:01, Carol Weaver <corconx@...> wrote:

Ernie it went out of business over three years ago ☹️

So I gather. The CEO retired and the sale of IceCrypt fell through. Someone has just taken over/registered the website. I wonder if the business is being resurrected?

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ErnB

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Re: IceCrypt s3500 Satellite Receiver

Bennett Family
 


A couple of years ago I was looking for a small Sky box to fit in a Motorhome locker. Guy that installed Sky sold me an old box he’d replaced for someone. Cost me a tenner and is still working. 

May be worth phoning local installers or looking on eBay. 

Martin 

On 19 Apr 2019, at 11:02, Carol Weaver via Groups.Io <corconx@...> wrote:

Ernie it went out of business over three years ago ☹️

Carol

On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 at 09:51, Ernest Bull <ernb32@...> wrote:
My very old Sat box has gone wonky and, big shock, IceCrypt no longer has any webpages, let alone customer support or upgrades.

Problem 1. It is unstable. Appears to go into Stand-By, but does a Re-Boot when woken up.

Problem 2. Although set correctly, the EPG does not auto-update on Stand-By.

Problem 3. Open TV EPG does nothing. Just sits there.

Overall, it still works better on Astra 1 and Atlantic than it does on FreeSat.

Does anyone have any fixes or links to help pages?

TIA

ErnB





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Re: IceCrypt s3500 Satellite Receiver

Ernest Bull
 



On 19 Apr 2019, at 11:01, Carol Weaver <corconx@...> wrote:

Ernie it went out of business over three years ago ☹️

So I gather. The CEO retired and the sale of IceCrypt fell through. Someone has just taken over/registered the website. I wonder if the business is being resurrected?

—————

ErnB

Re: IceCrypt s3500 Satellite Receiver

Carol Weaver
 

Ernie

Not sure if anything useful on this thread. Might be worth a read through


Carol

On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 at 09:51, Ernest Bull <ernb32@...> wrote:
My very old Sat box has gone wonky and, big shock, IceCrypt no longer has any webpages, let alone customer support or upgrades.

Problem 1. It is unstable. Appears to go into Stand-By, but does a Re-Boot when woken up.

Problem 2. Although set correctly, the EPG does not auto-update on Stand-By.

Problem 3. Open TV EPG does nothing. Just sits there.

Overall, it still works better on Astra 1 and Atlantic than it does on FreeSat.

Does anyone have any fixes or links to help pages?

TIA

ErnB





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Re: IceCrypt s3500 Satellite Receiver

Carol Weaver
 

Ernie it went out of business over three years ago ☹️

Carol

On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 at 09:51, Ernest Bull <ernb32@...> wrote:
My very old Sat box has gone wonky and, big shock, IceCrypt no longer has any webpages, let alone customer support or upgrades.

Problem 1. It is unstable. Appears to go into Stand-By, but does a Re-Boot when woken up.

Problem 2. Although set correctly, the EPG does not auto-update on Stand-By.

Problem 3. Open TV EPG does nothing. Just sits there.

Overall, it still works better on Astra 1 and Atlantic than it does on FreeSat.

Does anyone have any fixes or links to help pages?

TIA

ErnB





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IceCrypt s3500 Satellite Receiver

Ernest Bull
 

My very old Sat box has gone wonky and, big shock, IceCrypt no longer has any webpages, let alone customer support or upgrades.

Problem 1. It is unstable. Appears to go into Stand-By, but does a Re-Boot when woken up.

Problem 2. Although set correctly, the EPG does not auto-update on Stand-By.

Problem 3. Open TV EPG does nothing. Just sits there.

Overall, it still works better on Astra 1 and Atlantic than it does on FreeSat.

Does anyone have any fixes or links to help pages?

TIA

ErnB

Re: New Site Opens today

Bennett Family
 

It’s expensive and will need a few years to mature.

It’s next to where Gulliver’s Valley will open next year.

About 30 cans here today.

Martin Bennett

On 13 Apr 2019, at 16:52, timsinc Sinclair via Groups.Io <timsinc=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Useful info, Martin. Posibly good for location but looks barren and
boring just now.

Tim

On 12/04/2019, Bennett Family <martin@...> wrote:
The new site close to J31 of M1 opened today. Waleswood Caravan & Camping
Park. Open all year with access to Rother Valley Country Park. It’s about 10
miles into the centre of SHEFFIELD.


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Re: New Site Opens today

timsinc Sinclair
 

Useful info, Martin. Posibly good for location but looks barren and
boring just now.

Tim

On 12/04/2019, Bennett Family <martin@...> wrote:
The new site close to J31 of M1 opened today. Waleswood Caravan & Camping
Park. Open all year with access to Rother Valley Country Park. It’s about 10
miles into the centre of SHEFFIELD.


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Martin Bennett

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New Site Opens today

Bennett Family
 

The new site close to J31 of M1 opened today. Waleswood Caravan & Camping Park. Open all year with access to Rother Valley Country Park. It’s about 10 miles into the centre of SHEFFIELD.


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Re: Petition: Review Motorhome Driving Licence for Parkinson’s sufferers and over 70s

Alan Morris
 

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 17:58, Bennett Family <martin@...> wrote:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241254
Thanks Martin.

My wife and I have both signed, but I already know what the response will be.

Like all the other parliament petitions, it is a complete waste of time.

Alan.

Re: Petition: Review Motorhome Driving Licence for Parkinson’s sufferers and over 70s

Ian Emery
 

Signed 👍

Sent from the iPad of Ian Emery.

Re: Petition: Review Motorhome Driving Licence for Parkinson’s sufferers and over 70s

Carol Weaver
 

Done

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 18:58, Bennett Family <martin@...> wrote:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241254


Martin Bennett MBE
The Beeches, 4 Manor Road,
Wales, Sheffield S26 5PD



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Petition: Review Motorhome Driving Licence for Parkinson’s sufferers and over 70s

Bennett Family
 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241254


Martin Bennett MBE
The Beeches, 4 Manor Road,
Wales, Sheffield S26 5PD

Re: Over Seventy Driving Licence Renewal

Brent
 

On 25 Mar 2019, at 07:23, John Clemence <clemence.john@...> wrote:

Am I allowed to drive my 3.5 ton Autosleepers Broadway on a normal car licence?

Hi John Just make sure your Broadway IS 3.5T as the one we purchased was upgraded to 3.75T and the dealer never told us!!!!!

We actually struggled to keep under that weight anyway, full safari/awning, liquids (fuel, water etc), food, clothes and with myself, wife and dog was touch and go at times!!! 

Just as well I checked my paperwork, but I've got the +70 everything licence anyway

Best wishes
Brent
Sunny Isle of Wight

Re: Over Seventy Driving Licence Renewal

John Clemence
 

Wow Andy,
What a helpful and informative post, so many practical hints.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience this will certainly help to guide me through the process.
Thanks again, I will let the group know how I get on once I get the application under way.
Regards,
John.

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From: "andyowl2004 via Groups.Io" <andyowler@...>
Sent: 26/03/2019 09:55:28
Subject: Re: [motorhome-list] Over Seventy Driving Licence Renewal

Driving vehicles over 3.5t and up to 7.5t +750kg trailer (C1 or C1+E "Grandfather" rights)
 
Because we (76 and 74 years old) drive a m/h over 3.5tonne we have to have medicals. Our GP charged us over £200 each for the "medicals" - 10 minutes form-filling and no actual tests at all!
 
The next time I went to www.D4Drivers.uk (NOT .co.uk!) who charged £50 for the same "medical"! I chose one of their locations not far from home and it was all very smooth. They specialise in medicals for HGV and other similar professional drivers. They operate all over the UK. I went to a local Holiday Inn for my appointment!
 
Call 0808 178 0725 to make a booking or ask questions. Nice people!
 
Note: I have no connection with this company other than as a satisfied customer. There are other companies doing similar things including car race licence and taxi medicals.
 
I had to get my optician to give me a prescription for the specs I wear (and they are entitled to charge you although, if you are already due for a regular NHS eye test, the prescription may be free).
 
You will have to get the eye prescription even if you go to your GP. They give you a list of things to take to the medical including a Urine Sample and a list of any medication you may be taking.
 
If you have had a cataract or Glaucoma DVLA may require a "Visual Fields" test. 
 
If they send you to SpecSavers for this test, make sure that SpecSavers use the CORRECT DVLA test procedure. My wife had 3 Specsavers tests (all performed incorrectly) and several NHS specialist tests (all satisfactory but not acceptable to DVLA!) before DVLA agreed she could go to Moorfields Eye Hospital and have the test done by them. She passed!
 
* The scope to get it wrong includes one eye at a time or both eyes together? With specs or without specs? Noisy or cold room and interruptions. Do your own homework on the DVLA website and find out what DVLA actually require! Don't trust the operative, they may be a trainee (she was in two cases). SpecSavers will also NOT TELL YOU whether you have passed or not! You have to waste 3-4 weeks for DVLA to get back to you with a refusal to issue your new licence! If DVLA get it wrong APPEAL. It works. Don't give in or be browbeaten into accepting your licence being taken away. You cannot get it back with taking a new driving test.
 
Beware SPECSAVERS! They have a monopoly on doing eye tests for DVLA to the exclusion of almost all others including the optician you have been using for years. This may change in the future but we have bad experience of SpecSavers doing DVLA eye tests. In a subsequent year she went to Worcester Park, Surrey, SpecSavers who did the job correctly unlike another local SpecSavers.
 
Filling in the DVLA forms (especially D2 - Application) correctly is essential and since they change the rules without warning, and the "Help notes" DVLA provide are useless, it is worth phoning DVLA and asking their help to fill in the form. Get the person's name who helps you!  Try saying "Thank you. You have been very helpful. May I have your name please?" Photocopy the D2 form before you send it back.
 
The Medical Form "D4" is supplied by D4Drivers and they fill it in for you. Get one tick wrong (as my GP did once) and DVLA will send it back! Photocopy the D4 form before you send it back.
 
The first time I renewed my C1 licence I ticked the wrong box on the D2 and DVLA assumed the D4 medical was unnecessary (at £200!) and sent in error! They shredded the D4 and sent me the standard "up to 3.5t" licence. When I protested that I DID want the over 3.5t C1 licence they said I must have a new medical. When I appealed and said I could provide a photocopy of the D4 they gave in and allowed it to be used.
 
Always take a photocopy of BOTH SIDES of your licence before sending it back in case they lose it! Better still, if you have "mislaid it" when you send in the form, tell them so and therefore do not send it!
 
Always, always, always, send the forms etc. to DVLA using "SIGNED FOR" 1st class post. They have denied receiving forms and letters several times until I was able to tell them when my letter was received and who signed for it! Magic!
 
AndyMac

Re: Copyright [was Re: [motorhome-list] Over Seventy Driving Licence Renewal]

Bennett Family
 

Andy >Er, did you miss this Martin :  © UKMotorhomes.net Copying is permitted for personal use only.
Andy Clarke

Clearly I did! Apologies. 

I googled Driving Licences for Motorhomes or something similar as I remembered reading something a while I go which I now assume was a post from yourself. 

The link that opened was


I didn’t spot anything on there that said for personal use only. I’ve looked again and see that at the very end in smaller type and grey is the message. 

I’m on an CMC site and the internet connection is poor. I tried just direct those interested to your site via the link above but I couldn’t get it to copy this afternoon. 

Martin 

On 26 Mar 2019, at 17:16, Andy Clarke via Groups.Io <andyclarke1050@...> wrote:

Er, did you miss this Martin :  © UKMotorhomes.net Copying is permitted for personal use only.

I've had copy protection on the site for a few years, following a serious copyright breach. I'm experimenting with removing the protection and including a copyright notice automatically with any copied content.

Clearly it's not a deterrent so looks like I'll have to go back to full copy protection :(

Andy Clarke

Re: Over Seventy Driving Licence Renewal

Carol Weaver
 

I recall Andy writing this and him trying to get the trailer weight added to the 3.5t to get 4250. Sadly it didn’t happen

Would have been great had it worked for all concerned 

Carol

On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 16:14, Bennett Family <martin@...> wrote:
From UKMotorhomes.uk

Perhaps we should be forced to accept all EU directives!!

“C1 Driving Licence Test for Non-Commercial Drivers

A draft amendment to the EC 3rd Directive on Driving Licences could have meant that it would be easier for drivers of privately used vehicles to obtain a C1 licence (required for driving vehicles of between 3500kg and 7500kg GVW). Drivers who passed a normal car test after 31/12/1996 do not have the C1 category on their licence and currently must pass a C1 goods vehicle test in order to drive any vehicle of between 3500kg and 7500kg GVW

The proposal was that where driving is not the principal activity of the driver, i.e. it is solely for personal or leisure purposes, there should be no requirement to demonstrate knowledge of the rules and equipment applicable to the professional transport sector.

A separate C1 test was proposed, and the C1 licence category would have been be issued with a new restriction code (97) indicating that only private use is permitted.UK Driving Licence

This easing of the testing requirement might have reduced the need for motorhome manufacturers to build vehicles with a GVW of 3500kg or less.

Member states must incorporate the amendment into national legislation before 31/12/2013, in the UK the Driving Standards Agency consulted on the changes 2013.

In the responses to the consultation, for those that thought that a further test for non-professional drivers should be introduced, comments made were generally that a non-professional test would benefit those drivers who own motorhomes. The benefit being that motorhome owners would be able to take their driving test in their own vehicles without having to have a tachograph fitted.

DSA accepts that this is true. However, the EU legislation requires that apart from the content about the tachograph, all of the other content of the current category C1 test must remain and be tested. DSA is unable to just remove the tachograph content from the current test, for non-professional drivers turning up for test. A new theory test that did not include tachograph questions in the multiple-choice database would need to be introduced and IT systems would need to be changed to enable drivers to book this separate test. All of this would involve costs that would need to be recovered from those using the service – we could not have any certainty of the number of people who would use this service.

DSA does not propose to introduce another theory test or change the booking system at this time. The agency has however, considered whether it would be possible to just allow persons to attend for the test using their own vehicle and without having a tachograph fitted, even if the theory test is not changed. This would save money for the individual on the cost of the tachograph, but, they would still be required to have a restriction code put onto their driving licence by DVLA. The issue for DSA is how we tell DVLA to put the code onto the driving licence without having to spend money making major changes to IT systems, because driving test results are sent electronically via a special IT system to DVLA. DSA is currently investigating whether this could be done without it being too costly and introducing it with other future IT changes to mitigate the cost. This is assuming that stakeholders would wish to do this. The DSA stated that further comments on this point would be welcome.”


Martin 

On 26 Mar 2019, at 15:31, Alan Morris via Groups.Io <alan.g4ens@...> wrote:

On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 09:55, andyowl2004 via Groups.Io
<andyowler@...> wrote:

Driving vehicles over 3.5t and up to 7.5t +750kg trailer (C1 or C1+E "Grandfather" rights)

Andy's long posting is why I decided to relinquish my Cat C and Cat D
licence when reaching 70.

Ern mentioned towing trailers.  The DVLA Cat BE trailer weight max
depends on the date you passed your test.  Grandfather rights have no
upper limit.  Recent passes limit is 3,500kg.  Both however will be
reduced by the plated total outfit weight.  No extra restrictions for
age over 70.

The real problem is that motorhome manufacturers are now plating down
to 3,500kg which reduces the payload.  My 2016 Hymer manual recommends
driving with empty water tanks.  In the previous MH, I always filled
water to full, when ever the opportunity arose.

So I have a massive 'garage' that can't be used fully.

Alan



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Copyright [was Re: [motorhome-list] Over Seventy Driving Licence Renewal]

Andy Clarke
 

Er, did you miss this Martin :  © UKMotorhomes.net Copying is permitted for personal use only.

I've had copy protection on the site for a few years, following a serious copyright breach. I'm experimenting with removing the protection and including a copyright notice automatically with any copied content.

Clearly it's not a deterrent so looks like I'll have to go back to full copy protection :(

Andy Clarke


On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 16:14, Bennett Family <martin@...> wrote:
From UKMotorhomes.uk

Perhaps we should be forced to accept all EU directives!!

Re: Over Seventy Driving Licence Renewal

Bennett Family
 

From UKMotorhomes.uk

Perhaps we should be forced to accept all EU directives!!

“C1 Driving Licence Test for Non-Commercial Drivers

A draft amendment to the EC 3rd Directive on Driving Licences could have meant that it would be easier for drivers of privately used vehicles to obtain a C1 licence (required for driving vehicles of between 3500kg and 7500kg GVW). Drivers who passed a normal car test after 31/12/1996 do not have the C1 category on their licence and currently must pass a C1 goods vehicle test in order to drive any vehicle of between 3500kg and 7500kg GVW

The proposal was that where driving is not the principal activity of the driver, i.e. it is solely for personal or leisure purposes, there should be no requirement to demonstrate knowledge of the rules and equipment applicable to the professional transport sector.

A separate C1 test was proposed, and the C1 licence category would have been be issued with a new restriction code (97) indicating that only private use is permitted.UK Driving Licence

This easing of the testing requirement might have reduced the need for motorhome manufacturers to build vehicles with a GVW of 3500kg or less.

Member states must incorporate the amendment into national legislation before 31/12/2013, in the UK the Driving Standards Agency consulted on the changes 2013.

In the responses to the consultation, for those that thought that a further test for non-professional drivers should be introduced, comments made were generally that a non-professional test would benefit those drivers who own motorhomes. The benefit being that motorhome owners would be able to take their driving test in their own vehicles without having to have a tachograph fitted.

DSA accepts that this is true. However, the EU legislation requires that apart from the content about the tachograph, all of the other content of the current category C1 test must remain and be tested. DSA is unable to just remove the tachograph content from the current test, for non-professional drivers turning up for test. A new theory test that did not include tachograph questions in the multiple-choice database would need to be introduced and IT systems would need to be changed to enable drivers to book this separate test. All of this would involve costs that would need to be recovered from those using the service – we could not have any certainty of the number of people who would use this service.

DSA does not propose to introduce another theory test or change the booking system at this time. The agency has however, considered whether it would be possible to just allow persons to attend for the test using their own vehicle and without having a tachograph fitted, even if the theory test is not changed. This would save money for the individual on the cost of the tachograph, but, they would still be required to have a restriction code put onto their driving licence by DVLA. The issue for DSA is how we tell DVLA to put the code onto the driving licence without having to spend money making major changes to IT systems, because driving test results are sent electronically via a special IT system to DVLA. DSA is currently investigating whether this could be done without it being too costly and introducing it with other future IT changes to mitigate the cost. This is assuming that stakeholders would wish to do this. The DSA stated that further comments on this point would be welcome.”


Martin 

On 26 Mar 2019, at 15:31, Alan Morris via Groups.Io <alan.g4ens@...> wrote:

On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 09:55, andyowl2004 via Groups.Io
<andyowler@...> wrote:

Driving vehicles over 3.5t and up to 7.5t +750kg trailer (C1 or C1+E "Grandfather" rights)

Andy's long posting is why I decided to relinquish my Cat C and Cat D
licence when reaching 70.

Ern mentioned towing trailers.  The DVLA Cat BE trailer weight max
depends on the date you passed your test.  Grandfather rights have no
upper limit.  Recent passes limit is 3,500kg.  Both however will be
reduced by the plated total outfit weight.  No extra restrictions for
age over 70.

The real problem is that motorhome manufacturers are now plating down
to 3,500kg which reduces the payload.  My 2016 Hymer manual recommends
driving with empty water tanks.  In the previous MH, I always filled
water to full, when ever the opportunity arose.

So I have a massive 'garage' that can't be used fully.

Alan