Re: [MH-list] What choice of well-equipped 4WD campervan?

B WEBB <woodlake21rry@...>

You don't mention your budget but it might be worth making a phone
call, or visiting, Youngs of Milton Keynes.
They will look for a clean second hand base vehicle of your choice and
do the conversion to suit you, couldn't
fault the workmanship of the two I've seen. There are other firms that
advertise but I've not seen examples of
their work. Probably more expensive than a secondhand one that isn't
exactly to your spec. where you would
have to put up with the inconveniences, but, if it is exactly to your
spec you'll use it and enjoy it more.

Alternatively I have seen quite a good conversion done by the owner of
a secondhand field ambulance based
on a landrover, probably the longwheel based version from memory.



On 2 Nov 2008, at 01:07, Pet Human wrote:

I have been looking for a while at getting a campervan or small
motorhome. Not just a summer weekend vehicle, but something capable of
being used away from campsites and in wet weather, whilst still being
reasonably manoeuvrable.

I don't need a huge white box: there's only me and my dog, and one
woman+hound doesn't need acres of space. I do want a well-insulated
vehicle with a decent heater, and preferably with double-glazed side
windows to reduce condensation, enough water storage to last a few
with careful use, and a bit of storage. I need a double bed where my
small dog can stretch out beside his human hot water bottle, and
while I
don't mind a fold-out bed, I do want something where I can use the loo
at night without having to dismantle the bed. I'd like a shower, but
that may not be achievable in a compact vehicle, so I could make do
a sink with a hot water tap.

The problem I find is that this sort of spec sits in between two
well-defined genres: the weekend campervan (usually with very little
tankage and a fold-out double bed which takes most of the floorspace)
and the coachbuilt motorhome, which is usually a much larger vehicle.
Crucially, nearly all coachbuilts are significantly wider than than
vans on which they are based, making them a bit of a handful in tight

The compromise genre which I thought would provide the answer was the
panel van conversion. There's wide choice of sizes, from the
compact Romahome Dimension up to long wheelbase hightops like the
Timberland models. They are usefully narrower than the coachbuilts,
be disguised as an ordinary van, and

However, nearly all of these panel van conversions share a problem
common to the coachbuilts, in that they are front-wheel drive. Great
the road, great for providing a low floor inside, but pretty useless
slippery conditions. I have tried one, and it struggled on wet
grass; a
friend camping in France in October watched several of them getting
stuck when they tried to move off flat grass pitches ... and since I
don't intend to make much use of campsites, that's no good for me.

I think that rear-wheel drive might do better in marginal conditions,
since a camper tends to carry a lot of weight at the back, often
overhanging the rear axle, but 4-wheel-drive would be better. However,
I can find no 4WD panel van conversions currently in production, and
only RWD van I have found is the Mercedes Sprinter-based La Strada
Regent (very nice, but very expensive, even secondhand). Ford does
an AWD Transit van in various sizes, but I can't find anyone
building a
campervan on it.

So far, all the 4WD options seem to be secondhand and Japanese. In
ways, that's good, because I like the reliability of Japanese
but the choice is limited. At the lower end of the scale we have the
Mazda Bongo and Toyota Granvia, which are great vans but a bit small.
Stepping up a notch, all that seems to be available is the Toyota
Thoroughly reliable, but most of those available seem to have rather
poor interior designs: even those that are big enough to hold a shower
etc still seem to be converted minibuses with single-glazed windows,
the cab-forward design means no walkthrough from the front seats.

My needs may be unusual, but I'm sure that they are not unique. Are
really no other alternatives, or have I missed something? At the
moment, I think that a hi-roof Toyota Hiace will be my best bet, but
welcome any other suggestions.

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