Why the British SWP and Socialist Appeal could be in serious crisis over the Ukraine war; and the Socialist Party of England and Wales could be in its worse crisis due to its half way house on how to confront pro-Monarchist moods among the masses!


Anthony Brain
 

https://atrotskiststudieshistorytoexplainpresentandfuture.wordpress.com/2022/09/24/why-the-british-socialist-workers-party-socialist-party-of-england-and-wales-and-socialist-appeal-could-be-going-through-profound-crisis-by-anthony-brain/


Mark Baugher
 

On Sep 23, 2022, at 6:13 PM, Anthony Brain <brainanthony3904@...> wrote:

https://atrotskiststudieshistorytoexplainpresentandfuture.wordpress.com/2022/09/24/why-the-british-socialist-workers-party-socialist-party-of-england-and-wales-and-socialist-appeal-could-be-going-through-profound-crisis-by-anthony-brain/
What does "The Workers Revolutionary Party (WRP) on their Newsline website have explained two to three days ago the class stakes to stop capitalist restoration in Ukraine and the neo-Nazi forces" mean? How can there be a "capitalist restoration in Ukraine" when Ukraine is already capitalist?

Mark


Alex Dillard
 

Good article, I do ask what the AWL is going through right now.

Thanks


David Walters
 

The author believes that Russia/USSR never went through a counter-revolution and that both Ukraine and Russia are "workers states". Seriously.


Michael Pugliese
 

The Newsline article , with that title : "Putin Calls For
Referendums In The Donbass And For Workers To Decide To Join Russia!,"
is a bit fantastical with its claim of a Ukrainian ,"fierce and
revolutionary working class, determined to defend the gains of the
Russian Revolution," which , at least to my knowledge , at least when
it comes to mass, militant class struggle of a recognizably socialist
character has not been seen since 2014 ,
http://www.marxist.com/ukraine-lugansk-strike.htm ,
https://www.rs21.org.uk/2014/04/16/ukraine-russia-and-the-miners-of-the-donbass/
, though there have been limited strike actions , recently,
https://internationalviewpoint.org/spip.php?article7825 ,
https://internationalviewpoint.org/spip.php?article7815 , see these 2
articles from this month . By what I see here,
http://www.warscapes.com/opinion/donbass-miners-and-peoples-republics
, there is some tenuous opinion among the miners for the DPR
separatists.

The article in Newsline of the WRP,
https://wrp.org.uk/editorials/putin-calls-for-referendums-in-the-donbass-and-for-workers-to-decide-to-join-russia/
, also implies that Victoria Newland's boast of $5 billion in aid,
delivered in this speech ,
https://geneva.usmission.gov/2013/12/17/assistant-secretary-nuland-speaks-at-u-s-ukraine-foundation-conference/
, from 1991-2013 , was specifically funnelled only to Right Sector .
The $5 billion in aid, has since 2014 , acquired the status of one of
those factoids, rarely unpacked, except by fact checking sites,
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/mar/19/facebook-posts/united-states-spent-5-billion-ukraine-anti-governm/
, never checked by the credulous conspiracy theory crowd , though I
did find this unpacking from a website I did not expect to find it in
, https://southfront.org/how-i-spent-nulands-5-billion/ . Russian
Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has alleged that Nuland had meetings
with the Ukrainian neofascist group Right Sector in Washington DC ,
specifically with Right Sector coordinator (Andrei) Artyomenko ,
https://shadowproof.com/2014/05/19/victoria-nuland-accused-of-meeting-with-neofascists-in-washington/
. By this article ,
https://realwarinukraine.wordpress.com/2014/05/10/the-u-s-state-department-offered-funding-right-sector/
. which to me has a whiff of Dezinformatsia,
https://www.amazon.com/Active-Measures-History-Disinformation-Political/dp/B086B8Y7CV/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2KJKFU6U3G79L&keywords=disinformation&qid=1664033701&sprefix=disinformation+%2Caps%2C172&sr=8-3
, Nuland offered $5-10 million of financing , I assume via the NED to
Pravy Sektor for party building.