Newsweek: Trump's Secret Service Detail 'Cheered on the Insurrection'—Carol Leonnig


Bradley Mayer
 

More evidence of where the American Siloviki stand politically:  Far Right!  Biden Democrats want to build them back into better Far Rightists after the reversals they suffered in the Floyd uprising:

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-secret-service-insurrection-carol-leonnig-january-6-capitol-1720235

Carol Leonnig addresses the issue of Hutchinson's' hearsay.


John Reimann
 

Cassidy Hutchinson testified that Trump wrestled with ss member Engel and former ss member and then member of Trump's administration Ornato, trying to force them to drive him to the Capitol. It is likely that they will testify under oath that this is untrue. This means that their probable denial is not necessarily credible. That, in itself, may lead to another scandal - the general publicizing of the political views of the secret service (and by implication of the FBI also) - views that favor the overturning of the Constitution and the "peaceful transfer of power".

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Mark Baugher
 

Washington Post columnist, Jennifer Rubin, wrote today that Engel already testified: "Certainly the House Jan. 6 Select Committee should hear from all relevant witnesses under oath. But Bobby Engel, the head of the president’s protective detail who was in the car at the time, had already spoken at length to the committee. He confirmed the gravamen of her account — that Trump was irate about not be able to going to the Capitol."

She further claimed that the report came from unnamed sources, and encouraged the infotainment industry to stop recycling Trump's counter-programming with unnamed sources.

Mark

On Jun 30, 2022, at 6:37 AM, John Reimann <1999wildcat@...> wrote:

Cassidy Hutchinson testified that Trump wrestled with ss member Engel and former ss member and then member of Trump's administration Ornato, trying to force them to drive him to the Capitol. It is likely that they will testify under oath that this is untrue. This means that their probable denial is not necessarily credible. That, in itself, may lead to another scandal - the general publicizing of the political views of the secret service (and by implication of the FBI also) - views that favor the overturning of the Constitution and the "peaceful transfer of power".

John Reimann
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Bradley Mayer
 

Can't verify Rubin's comment since WAPO is paywalled for me, but if correct, one could reasonably speculate then that the knee-jerk speed at which Engel and other SSers moved to contradict Hutchinson's testimony already potentially exposes their right wing pro-Trump politics.  

From the National Association of Police Organizations https://www.cbsnews.com/news/national-association-of-police-organizations-endorses-president-trump/ to the DHS and SS, the American Siloviki form the intersection of Trumpism's general mass base, and its institutional base.  Most opaque is the US military officer corps, though last I looked years ago, they were supposed to be ~90% registered Republicans.  But are they Never Trumpers?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silovik

"In the Russian political lexicon, a silovik (Russian: силови́к, IPA: [sʲɪlɐˈvʲik]; plural: siloviki, Russian: силовики́, IPA: [sʲɪləvʲɪˈkʲi]) is a person who works in police, army, drug control, prosecutor's office, ministry of justice, FSB political police, former KGB, GRU, Foreign Intelligence Service (Russia) (SVR), Federal Protective Service (Russia) (FSO) and any other state organisation that has a right to use force against people. Also this word is used for a politician who came into politics from these organisations. A similar term is "securocrat" (law enforcement and intelligence officer)."

Thanks to this nifty terminological capacity of the deeply inflected Russian language, nomenklatura and apparatchik also find ready application to the USA with little analytical trouble. The USA/Canada and Russia do have a lot in common!

As I always remind people, to drive the point home, Adolf Hitler's dad was a customs border cop for the Austro-Hungarian Empire.  


Bradley Mayer
 

More from Newsweek.  Far Right revolving door?  

"Former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson testified before the committee on Tuesday that Tony Ornato, who is currently assistant director of the Secret Service Office of Training, told her that Trump became irate while in his vehicle on January 6 after he was told he could not go to the Capitol.
 
"Hutchinson said that Ornato had told her Trump had tried to grab the steering wheel and that Ornato had made those comments in a room with Robert Engel, the Secret Service agent in charge of Trump's detail on the day.

"Ornato was White House deputy chief of staff for operations at the time. He had been permitted to leave his Secret Service role temporarily in order to serve as deputy chief of staff in an unusual move for the service.

"Following Hutchinson's testimony, Secret Service sources told various media outlets that agents were ready to testify and refute the claim. Those agents reportedly include Engel and Ornato as well as the driver of the car."

Sloppy investigation or bait?  Reel them in and let's find out!

https://www.newsweek.com/secret-service-ties-donald-trump-ring-alarm-bells-jan-6-revelations-1720584


John Reimann
 

Bradley Mayer writes: "Most opaque is the US military officer corps, though last I looked years ago, they were supposed to be ~90% registered Republicans.  But are they Never Trumpers?" I think the main bulk of the top military officers oppose Trump for a number of reasons. In this I think they reflect the views of the great majority of the US capitalist class. This is seen by the officers who went into the Trump administration and then all left. I think the comment of the former head of the joint chiefs of staff Mark Mullen really said it all. When Trump was looking to send troops into the streets, Mullen commented that the military command will obey all "lawful" orders of the president. The implication was that they would disobey any "unlawful" orders of Trump.

But there has always been the Dr. Strangelove wing of the officers corps. During the Cold War this wing advocated a first strike against the Soviet Union. Nowadays, this wing is best represented by Michael Flynn. My suspicion is that there are more of them at the lower levels. The Oathkeepers, for example, is composed of cops, soldiers and former soldiers.

John Reimann

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Farans Kalosar
 

On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 01:40 PM, Bradley Mayer wrote:
Can't verify Rubin's comment since WAPO is paywalled for me, but if correct, one could reasonably speculate then that the knee-jerk speed at which Engel and other SSers moved to contradict Hutchinson's testimony already potentially exposes their right wing pro-Trump politics.  

From the National Association of Police Organizations https://www.cbsnews.com/news/national-association-of-police-organizations-endorses-president-trump/ to the DHS and SS, the American Siloviki form the intersection of Trumpism's general mass base, and its institutional base.  Most opaque is the US military officer corps, though last I looked years ago, they were supposed to be ~90% registered Republicans.  But are they Never Trumpers?

Doesn't the seizure of political power, especially where there are multiple potential centers of state power, have to be completed by the consolidation of that power--a second and by no means automatic phase? This crucial phase in the instantiation of "classic" fascism is entirely overlooked by many, who seem to presume that the gleichschaltung follows automatically from the machtergreifung  

How feasible--and how nearly in hand, at least potentially --is such a consolidation in the US between the likely Republican seizure of the national legislature (and the balance of power in most states) in November and the hypothetical election of a fuehrer or duce (or Louis Napoleon) in 2024?

The question of what the siloviki may do is entirely opaque at the moment.

The one thing certain IMO is that none of this has been, to use the cant phrase, "always already" firmly decided by the ruling class Court of Owls. The objective character of the bad situation into which we appear to be tumbling is perhaps not yet clear. 
Among the possibilities is a sort of constitutional loyalist coup of military. 

Indisputably reactionary figures of eg the Mattis type might have made a counter-coup after a successful Jan. 6 seizure of power "to preserve the constitution" last year under some circumstances if Trump's shambolic attempt had succeeded.  

Would the "legal" election of a dictator resolve such scruples? Would an Abbot or a DeSantis be able to preserve a sufficient appearance of constitutional normality to consolidate an actual fully functioning fascist or Bonapartist regime? Would "the Colonels" so to speak be in a position to overthrow relative moderates like Mark Milley even if those were still inclined to overthrow the new alleged government?  Would a draconian program of reactionary legislation--abolition of Social Security, revocation of universal civil rights, etc. etc. be accepted by the nominally "liberal" coastal population and power centers? Would New York and California just give in and bend over in that case?  Indeed, would even presumed fascist safe seats like Ohio really accept the yoke silently?