Apparently, "Max Power" is using multiple sock puppets to post to the list. In the last one with the heading "The Deeply Pessimistic Intellectual Roots of Black Lives Matter, the '1619 Project' and Much Else in Woke America" comes from an openly rightwing website connected to RealClearPolitics that The Daily Beast describes:

"The company behind the non-partisan news site RealClearPolitics has been secretly running a Facebook page filled with far-right memes and Islamophobic smears, The Daily Beast has learned."

I now see that I was giving this troll the benefit of the doubt by assuming he was some kind of contrarian leftist. His willful attempt to post inflammatory material on Marxmail suggests something more sinister.

This may be a downside of the .io hosting. The list is probably much higher profile,  which is mostly a good thing but brings that exposure also.

Comradely,

John

This is not where "Max Power" came from. He trolled my blog for a couple of years until I put him in a trash filter. For Les and I, there's a bit of a learning curve in weeding out his messages on this platform but with our combined DP experience of about 60 years, we'll succeed.

You got your information about RealClearPolitics from Wikipedia. That's sad.

The author of this shitty article that "Max Powers" sent to this mailing list and you defend was written by John Murawski, a long-time right-wing journalist. Here's another item from his Real Clear Investigations oeuvre:

A growing body of scientific evidence – discussed at length in political scientist Charles Murray’s new book, “Human Diversity: The Biology of Gender, Race, and Class” – suggests that the gender imbalance is at least partially explained by innate differences between the sexes. And if that’s the case, trying to correct the gender disparity may be akin to tinkering with human nature, or largely futile.

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2020/05/06/title_ix_sidebar_123498.html

Carol, before you waste bandwidth here again, you might want to do a little research beforehand.

In Web hosting service, the term bandwidth is often incorrectly used to describe the amount of data transferred to or from the website or server within a prescribed period of time, for example bandwidth consumption accumulated over a month measured in gigabytes per month.[citation needed] The more accurate phrase used for this meaning of a maximum amount of data transfer each month or given period is monthly data transfer.

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On 9/16/20 5:42 PM, Carol Stokes wrote:

You're good at dismissing people and ideas but not so good at addressing them. If you didn't like this article, fine. I found it to be very interesting, about the hopelessness of the mindset of racialist politics.

Racialist politics? What kind of tripe is that? The dictionary defines racialism as "a theory that race determines human traits and capacities". Is that what Project 1619 is about? Have you read Project 1619? Or is your reading limited to the back of cereal boxes?

This article from 2014 documents a troll campaign against Common Dreams.  The perpetrator was eventually exposed.
     ken hhttps://www.commondreams.org/hambaconeggs

The World Socialist Web characterizes BLM and the 1619 Project as "racialist"  so the term has at least been through the bowels of the Socialist Equality Party and is a matter of policy with them in this context.

I don't see how anyone could view it otherwise. "Racism is in the DNA of the country." Is this a Marxist idea?

Jacob

Having studied the topic thoroughly for a decade, the undeniable reality is that the accumulative processes necessary for the constitution of the American capitalist system were dependent upon the racialized slavery system.

Noel Ignatiev's scholarly review of Foner's book on Reconstruction traces out the entirety of a debate within the Sojourner Truth Organization and people like Roediger and Glaberman over the matter <https://libcom.org/library/american-blindspot-reconstruction-according-eric-foner-web-du-bois-noel-ignatiev#footnote2_0zxgoiz> and <https://www.marxists.org/history/usa/pubs/sojournertruth/slaverysymp.pdf>

There is more than one argument being made. Yes, racism existed (exists) and yes slavery helped develop capitalism in England (primarily), but whether you see the motivation for this slavery being racism or financial determines whether you fall on the racialist or Marxist side of the discussion. As CLR James, said, "to think of imperialism in terms of race is disastrous."

Jacob