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Re: FRATELLI TUTTI

Ken Hiebert
 

Attachment to the teachings of past centuries does not explain conflict in the church today.  Unless we say that some have rejected those teachings and others continue to hold to them.  Has any side in the conflict explicitly rejected the teachings of the past?  Or implicitly?

Jerry says, "The Church Hierarchy’s betrayal of the poor in Central and South America from 1965 to 1992 has led to a great loss of parishioners to evangelical Protestant groups in the subsequent period.  I think the church hierarchy is well aware of this and this explains their manoeuvring.  However much they may identify with the ruling class, they don’t wish to be seen as indifferent to the struggles of the poor.  

   ken h


Kamran Nayeri's Writings: Critical Theories of the Class Nature of the Soviet Union: A Marxian Survey

Louis Proyect
 

Editorial Note: The following paper was prepared for and presented at the III Conferencia Internacional La Obra de Carlos Marx y Los desafíos del Siglo XXI (The Third Conference on the Work of Karl Marx and the Challenges of the 21st Century) in Havana, Cuba, in May 2006.  The conference was organized by the Instituto de Filosofia de Cuba

https://knayeri.blogspot.com/2020/10/critical-theories-of-class-nature-of.html


Re: Biden stiff-arms the left — which holds its fire

Roger Kulp
 

The Democrat's dirty little secret is they have not been a party of the left for almost fifty years,ever since Nixon trounced Mc Govern,in nearly every state.Jimmy Carter was the first real neoliberal president,although no one had a term for it then.

I really don't believe we do have a lesser evil.I think these two clowns cancel each other out.Pick your poison,do you want an elitist neoliberal administration,that will likely start new wars,and escalate the new cold war,or do you want no new wars abroad,and escalating neofascism at home?Some choice,huh?One could argue,that,in 2016,Trump seemed like the lesser evil.We knew what an elitist war monger Clinton was.But for many,it looked like Trump was somewhat of a populist paleoconservative in the Pat Buchanan vein,who was going to pull us out of,or de-escalate,some of our imperialist wars,and who cared to some degree about the American worker.

I guess you might call me a Russian stooge,I voted for Jill Stein in 2016.

Another one of those dirty little secrets no one will bring up,is that the ACA was appropriated in whole cloth,from Mitt Romney,and the Republicans.The original ACA,and any expansion thereof,would be a huge gift to the insurance company donors of the Democratic Party.


The Relevance of Trotsky’s Ideas Today | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

Louis Proyect
 

Not long after I praised Left Voice and one of its editorial board members Juan Cruz Ferre in an article titled “Marxist alternatives to Jacobin”, Juan asked for my opinions on a video that his comrades in Argentina made titled “The Relevance of Trotsky’s Ideas Today”. What I am going to write in this article might surprise Juan, who acknowledged that “we have strong political differences, in particular with regards to the ‘Leninist’ organization.”

In fact, we don’t have “strong political differences” as far as I know, except for my support for Howie Hawkins’s presidential campaign and opposition to his fellow Left Voice editor Nathaniel Flakin’s belief in the revolutionary potential of looting and arson, which is admittedly widespread on the left. Most everything else that Left Voice publishes is right on the money. For example, I just cross-posted Nathaniel’s “Could Hitler Have Been Stopped by Voting for the ‘Lesser Evil’?” to FB and Marxmail. He draws exactly the same conclusions that I drew in a 2016 article titled “Misusing German history to scare up votes for Hillary Clinton”.

full: https://louisproyect.org/2020/10/06/the-relevance-of-trotskys-ideas-today/


Re: National Guardian - Wikipedia

Patrick Bond
 

On 10/6/2020 6:13 PM, Steven L. Robinson wrote:
...
The Guardian expired, suddenly without explanation.  One would have thought that the publisher would have at least sent notice to subscribers stating the reasons for the ceasing of publication, but they didn't.

Nor their Johannesburg correspondent. Left in the lurch by those mysterious cdes...



Re: Bandiera Rosa - Avanti Popolo

Jerry Monaco
 



When my Southern Italian ancestry Grandfather moved from Upstate New York to the south in 1963 he went to register to vote and was told he had to take a test on the constitution. He was denied the right to vote three times. He was pretty dark-skinned as many Italians from Southern Italy are. 

The bad joke was on him; he was as racist as the people who denied him the core. He was a racist in the obvious ways you can see in some Scorcese films. I sometimes wonder if he was so racist because he so much did not want to be "colored." He feared being categorized as colored. 


Re: Biden stiff-arms the left — which holds its fire Second Thoughts

Jerry Monaco
 



"Subhuman" is pretty bad and anybody who used the term needs to be enlightened in the range of good and bad of humans. Especially since non-human primates such as bonobos and chimpanzees are our cousins and should be treated kindly. 

But no joke. The concept "subhuman" has racist connotations no matter who uses it against whom. So please avoid it. 


Re: National Guardian - Wikipedia

Jerry Monaco
 



I was in High School in a small town in South Florida in 1973 (age 14) and considered myself a socialist of some sort. It was mainly a mattered of personal experience and a lot of reading because I had only met a few socialists --members of the Catholic left sent into a kind of exile to Immokalee. 

I read an advertisement for the Guardian and Dissent Mag in the back of the New Republic so I took my busboy money and bought a sub for both. It was both enlightening and strange to me. I recognized it as kind of Maoist without having any sense of where that was "located." I recognized the orientation of Dissent and learned a lot about NYC intellectuals brain-tossing from it but it wasn't my preferred politics. Strangely enough I think I was an unconscious Shachtmanite because circa 1943 because I believed the Soviet Block, Cuba, China, etc. were a bureaucratic ruling-class. But I also wanted an old fashion romantic revolution. I liked Che and the Black Panthers and thrilled to every revolutionary event. 

The Guardian with its kind of Maoist line gave me the notion that there were revolutionaries some place. And it also gave me news from the world I wouldn't have had otherwise. And yet I also thought that the Guardian circa 1973 was a bit crazy in the exact same way Dissent was stodgy and abstract. 

I have to laugh. My favorite teacher (a Franciscan nun) warned me not to join the Weather Underground when she saw me reading the Guardian. On the other hand she approved of Dissent and borrowed it from me. She thought it would turn me into a college professor. 


Biden's wide lead in post-debate polls leaves Republicans panicking | TheHill

Louis Proyect
 


“THE CURVE” will stream free on YouTube pre-election; watch first three mins of the stunning COVID-19 doc now; Oscar®-nom. dir. Adam Benzine

Louis Proyect
 




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“THE CURVE” will stream free on YouTube pre-election

Watch first three mins of the stunning COVID-19 doc now

Directed by Academy Award®-nominated director 
Adam Benzine (Claude Lanzmann: Spectres of the Shoah)

 Original soundtrack by Emmy Award®-winning composer 
Joel Goodman (JFKWalt Disney, Everything is Copy)


TORONTO, CANADA: The filmmakers behind anticipated docu-thriller The Curve will stream the entire movie ad-free free on YouTube for every American to see, for the entire two weeks leading up to the election. 

Thereafter, the filmmakers will pursue commercial exploitation and distribution for the movie via traditional channels and methods, in an unprecedented move that radically upends the traditional global distribution model.

In tandem with the announcement, the filmmakers are today making the opening three minutes of the film available (
https://youtu.be/-tpC4sam_ss) and are launching a crowdfunding campaign to give voters and viewers a chance to be a part of this historic motion picture (bit.ly/TheCurveFilm).
 
Made in secret over the past six months, the documentary traces the crucial three-month period, from mid-January to mid-April, when the choices made by America’s leaders sealed the country’s fate. It is produced and directed by Academy Award®-nominee Adam Benzine (Claude Lanzmann: Spectres of the Shoah), produced by Toronto’s Jet Black Iris, and features an original score by Emmy®-winning composer Joel Goodman (JFK, Walt Disney, Q Ball). 

Producer-Director Adam Benzine said: “We had an incredible reaction when we began showing the movie to buyers during TIFF, but what we found is that most U.S. networks don't have the ability to turnaround broadcast of the film before the election. Many of the offers we received were to play the film later in the year or in 2021.

“This left us with a choice. Do we take the money but lose some of our impact? Or do we try to get the film in front of American voters before election day? 

“Ultimately, we believe that this movie demands to be seen before November 3. The Curve is a landmark documentary, capturing a pivotal moment in American history, and we believe it will have wide-ranging commercial appeal for a very long time to come.”  

Combining original interviews with creatively treated archival footage, and made under exceptional circumstances, the film boasts interviews with more than two dozen experts, analysts, researchers, journalists and political figures, examining nine key failures made by the American government that allowed an emerging pandemic to become a national catastrophe. 

Among the many experts featured in the film are Dr. Ali Khan, former director of the CDC’s Office of Public Health Preparedness and Response; Dr. Emily Landon, chief infectious-disease epidemiologist at University of Chicago Medicine; Sonia Shah, investigative journalist and author of PandemicIlan Goldenberg, former U.S. State Department Advisor; Dr. Gavin Macgregor-Skinner, director of the Global Biorisk Advisory Council (GBAC); and Ed Yong, The Atlantic’s science writer. 

Mr. Benzine has assembled an all-star team of predominantly female creatives for the documentary, including Canadian Screen Award®-nominee Tiffany Beaudin (Prosecuting Evil, Man vs. Machine) as Editor; Melissa Hood (The Reckoning, On My Way Out) as Associate Producer; Diana Warmé (The Skyjacker’s Tale) as Line Producer; and entertainment lawyer Divya Shahani as Executive Producer. 

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The challenging art of becoming free | Review of *Soviet Influence on Cuban Culture, 1961-1987: When the Soviets Came to Stay*, by Isabel Story | Michal Boncza | The Morning Star

Kevin Lindemann and Cathy Campo
 

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/c/challenging-art-becoming-free

The challenging art of becoming free

MICHAL BONCZA recommends a book exploring the complex relationship between the Soviet Union and Cuba in developing a transformative culture on the island


STAGES IN A REVOLUTION: A Teatro Escambray showcase in 1978  Photo: Jorge Valiente

Soviet Influence on Cuban Culture, 1961-1987
by Isabel Story
(Lexington Books, £65)

ISABEL STORY’S meticulous analysis of the Soviet influence on Cuban culture from 1961 to 1987 in this book vividly brings to life a turbulent period in the history of the island.

She leaves no stone unturned in her dialectical investigation of a complex time, when two contrasting 

socialist developments had become intertwined as much by global politics as by ideological affinity.

In the process, Story surgically debunks many of the intellectually lazy and politically motivated assertions of hostile Western academics.

On the eve of the victory of the revolution in 1959, almost a quarter of Cubans were illiterate and many more functionally so.

In that context, Jose Marti’s postulate that “being culturally educated is the only way to be free,” implies far more than just knowing your alphabet.

The Sierra Maestra revolutionaries understood that premise only too well. Che Guevara’s concept of “el hombre nuevo” (new human being) encapsulated a vision of an educated individual at the service of the revolution who is selfless, a patriot and an internationalist.

The new Cuba and its cultural institutions became a hive of often heated polemics about recovering national cultural identity, its content and how to develop it and put it at the service of the revolution in all its rich manifestations in music, visual arts, cinema and theatre.

Decentralisation of decision-making, the setting up of a nationwide network of Casas de Cultura (cultural centres) and the “aficionado” movement for engaging the population, particularly in creative activities in rural areas, all fed on the historic examples of Bauhaus, Soviet Constructivism or the New Deal, where art and culture were symbiotically linked to the economy and industry.

The omnipresent threat of US military intervention and its economic blockade, along with incessant covert meddling, hung in the air like the sword of Damocles, sharpening and widening political awareness among the people.

Not surprisingly, Soviet novelist Alexander Bek’s WWII classic The Volokolamsk Highway was a must-read among those tasked with defending the revolution’s progress.

Nationalism and internationalism became the bricks and mortar of all socialist constructs and the commitment to anti-colonialism was informed by what Marti termed “Our America,” aimed at tackling crippling underdevelopment at home and elsewhere first and foremost.

Hence the aim was to multiply activism by specifically engaging the population of rural hamlets and small townships and this took many of its cues from the Bolsheviks in the early days of the Russian Revolution, with whom the guerillas felt a deep affinity.

As an example Story cites — among many — Teatro Escambray. Based in the provinces, it epitomised the revolutionary approach of addressing local and regional concerns and rejecting the still cosmopolitan theatres of Havana with their repertoire of European plays.

Like the Bolsheviks, Escambray workers perceived theatre not just as sphere of public recreation but rather an engine for social reconstruction.

Soviet technical expertise, particularly in architecture, was especially useful in addressing the dire housing reality of sprawling slums that had to be remedied rapidly, nowhere more spectacularly than in Eastern Havana.

Yet, as Story points out, while the USSR was perceived pragmatically as a source of education and considerable inspiration, it simultaneously was also seen, in a never-ending duality, as a potentially dogmatic, insular and domineering entity.

The degree of separation increased with the time as “Cubanismo” — the Cuban way — defined ever more emphatically not just the internal path to socialism, with its accentuation of the indigenous in cultural practice, but also the deepening ties to Latin America, the Caribbean and Africa.

Ultimately, it was the USSR which succumbed to debilitating internal contradictions. Cuba, on the other hand, drew strength from creatively solving its own. Yet, like some kind of hark back to a previous era and much to the world’s consternation, Russia’s President Vladimir Putin publicly wrote off Cuba’s entire debt of £27 billion while visiting the island in 2017.

Warts and all, Story’s book offers fascinating insights into an unprecedented democratising transformation ushered in by a revolutionary cultural practice conceived, from its inception, for the many not the few.

Its cover price is hefty but it’s definitely one to ask your library to stock.




Re: Why young people who protested for George Floyd question the power of voting | George Floyd | The Guardian

fkalosar101@...
 

"I would suggest that every leftist ,communist,socialist,whatever term you want to use,who is over the age of fifty,join a socialist party,where a majority of the members are under thirty."

High-mindedly speaking here, the theme of generational warfare, one thinks, in and of itself, however attenuated and well-intentioned (if it's ever truly well-intentioned) is a dead end.  One does not owe an apology to "the young" for the crimes of a generation. "Don't trust anyone over thirty" was journalistic drivel in 1966, and, since this is its second coming, is farcical drivel now--if that's what anyone is saying.

Quite apart from the presumptuous insult involved in this casual ageism--which is after all only a passive-aggressive way of picking a fight, and we all like to fight--the dividing of all humankind into the good under-thirties and the bad over-thirties is perhaps, if one may be forgiven for daring, with whatever lofty intent, to say so, a strikingly inadequate theory of social class. This was true when one was under thirty, and is still true

From what one can tell, there is a lot of vulgar Graeberism--and adventurism and ultraleftism--out there among the young "shadowers" of BLM.  If this isn't so, one would love to know what the case is instead of getting a bunch of Bob Dylan you-ain't-hip cr*p about something happening Mr. Jones etc., etc. or the modern equivalent.

Does the new social-justice movement truly have leading voices apart from BLM instead of the usual kibitzers falsely or naively claiming to be in the lead?  Who are they and where does one find them? 

Does the Occupy heritage, now in a second incarnation, still deserve to be in the lead, or has it become another banana peel leading to another pratfall in the long Mack Sennet descent into barbarism?  

How do "the young" feel about a general strike?


Re: Why young people who protested for George Floyd question the power of voting | George Floyd | The Guardian

Mark Lause
 

Yep.  This generational stuff is crap.  It struck me as crap in the 60s when I was iny teens, and it hasn't improved with age.


On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 1:08 PM Susan Redge MD via groups.io <sredge=mac.com@groups.io> wrote:
I’m over 40, and I don’t trust the electoral system


On Oct 6, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Roger Kulp <leucovorinsaves@...> wrote:

I would suggest that every leftist ,communist,socialist,whatever term you want to use,who is over the age of fifty,join a socialist party,where a majority of the members are under thirty.It will certainly change your perspective.It isn't so much disillusionment with voting,but with the electoral system itself.How it is rigged against independent parties and candidates,the rampant vote fraud,the antiquated electoral college,that was designed 230+ years ago,for the slave owning class.Not to mention Citizen's Unitied,and everything else that has led to our corrupt way of campaign financing.Many of these younger people would lose their cynicism about voting,if the whole system was taken out,root and all,and replaced with a more eqitable one.The momentum behind Bernie has proven this.Regardless of what you think about Bernie,and whether you beieve he was a "real" socialist,or not,the reaction of younger voters to the Sanders campaign proved younger voters could get excited about voting,and working for a candidate.Who could say where Bernie would have gotten,in 2016,had he run as an independent in a truly level playing field,without the interference from the DNC revealed by Wikileaks.Those younger voters who stuck with Bernie through 2020,saw the interference of President Obama,to essentially rig the primary process against Bernie.Is it any wonder people under 40 don't trust the electoral system.   


Re: Why young people who protested for George Floyd question the power of voting | George Floyd | The Guardian

Susan Redge MD
 

I’m over 40, and I don’t trust the electoral system


On Oct 6, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Roger Kulp <leucovorinsaves@...> wrote:

I would suggest that every leftist ,communist,socialist,whatever term you want to use,who is over the age of fifty,join a socialist party,where a majority of the members are under thirty.It will certainly change your perspective.It isn't so much disillusionment with voting,but with the electoral system itself.How it is rigged against independent parties and candidates,the rampant vote fraud,the antiquated electoral college,that was designed 230+ years ago,for the slave owning class.Not to mention Citizen's Unitied,and everything else that has led to our corrupt way of campaign financing.Many of these younger people would lose their cynicism about voting,if the whole system was taken out,root and all,and replaced with a more eqitable one.The momentum behind Bernie has proven this.Regardless of what you think about Bernie,and whether you beieve he was a "real" socialist,or not,the reaction of younger voters to the Sanders campaign proved younger voters could get excited about voting,and working for a candidate.Who could say where Bernie would have gotten,in 2016,had he run as an independent in a truly level playing field,without the interference from the DNC revealed by Wikileaks.Those younger voters who stuck with Bernie through 2020,saw the interference of President Obama,to essentially rig the primary process against Bernie.Is it any wonder people under 40 don't trust the electoral system.   


Re: National Guardian - Wikipedia

Louis Proyect
 

On 10/6/20 12:13 PM, Steven L. Robinson wrote:

The Guardian expired, suddenly without explanation.  One would have thought that the publisher would have at least sent notice to subscribers stating the reasons for the ceasing of publication, but they didn't.

I was very close to these developments but never wrote about it. I got to know the editor Bill Ryan and some of the writers in the 1980s when I was still in touch with Peter Camejo. They were dealing with a declining readership and financial problems that all print publications were dealing with. Peter had developed close ties to Guardian reporter John Trinkl who was sympathetic to the North Star Network. Later on, he connected with some of the ex-Guardian people who had joined Line of March, an ill-fated semi-Maoist group that Max Elbaum belonged to. After they came to the conclusion that Leninism was a dead-end, they started a magazine called CrossRoads that was a bid to coalesce around a non-sectarian approach, an approach that the Guardian was for as well. After CrossRoads folded, I wrote about the ramifications: http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/mydocs/organization/crossroads.htm



Bandiera Rosa - Avanti Popolo

John Obrien
 

Jeffrey Masko may I suggest you become more familiar with the history of discrimination against 
Southern and East European immigrant laborers, that was especially rampant in the USA.  Those 
of Italian ancestry were viewed as "lessers" (non-white) in the U. S. by the WASPS. 

Australia banned immigration of Chinese and Italian laborers up to recent times.

My parents were both Irish ancestry, but my Catholic godfather was a good Italian laborer
Tony Metro, who as my parents had voted for another Italian, by the name Vito Marcantonio,
a U. S. Congressman elected, as the American Labor Party candidate.    

Italian ancestry radicals and oppressed laborers in many of the most historic U. S. labor struggles. 
Joe Ettor & Arturo Giovanitti in the historic Lawrence MA and Patterson NJ textile strikes and the 
martyrs Anna LoPizzo  in Lawrence shot by the police, and Sacco & Vanzetti who were murdered 
by the state government - because of their being in part: Italian.    
  



 
On 10/6/20 10:59 AM, Jeffrey Masko wrote:
Ok, I got it.......... but.

None of this is acceptable. As I've said repeatedly, this is not social media. We need to aspire to a higher standard. As a rule of thumb, posts should be dispassionate and high-minded even when I fail to meet those standards myself.


Re: National Guardian - Wikipedia

Steven L. Robinson
 

I agree. During the 1980s and early 1990s the Guardian was quite valuable especially for those of us outside the main Metropolitan areas, given that those were the days before the internet.  

It was New York centered.  That proved useful in some respects - its coverage of the split of the anti-Gulf War movement on a national level was good but it gave scant coverage to the state of that movement on the West Coast which - especially in Los Angeles - involved different dynamics.  This was disappointing as the Guardian had many readers out here. But it had limited resources, so the limitations can be explained in that respect.

The Guardian expired, suddenly without explanation.  One would have thought that the publisher would have at least sent notice to subscribers stating the reasons for the ceasing of publication, but they didn't.

Yeah, toward the end the Guardian tried to be non sectarian but there was always an undercurrent of soft Maoism if you will.  Many of their writers - John Trinkel for one - seemed to have a visceral hatred for Trots, ex Trots and semi Trots.

  SR

On 10/06/2020 8:23 AM Erik Toren <ectoren@...> wrote:


I really miss it. I was a freshman at my regional university in 1987 where I discovered it at my university's library. I kept reading it up until it folded. Aside from the Left news pov, it is how I came into contact with the Socialist Party USA, Solidarity, DSA, etc. Great rag! We need it more than ever.  

Erik  



Could Hitler Have Been Stopped by Voting for the “Lesser Evil”? | Left Voice

Louis Proyect
 


Re: National Guardian - Wikipedia

Erik Toren
 

I really miss it. I was a freshman at my regional university in 1987 where I discovered it at my university's library. I kept reading it up until it folded. Aside from the Left news pov, it is how I came into contact with the Socialist Party USA, Solidarity, DSA, etc. Great rag! We need it more than ever.  

Erik  


On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 10:08 AM Louis Proyect <lnp3@...> wrote:


During the early 1980s the publication's ideological line shifted once again, this time towards an independent non-communist radicalism. The Guardian was terminated in 1992 owing to declining circulation and financial difficulties.

_._,_._,_


Re: FRATELLI TUTTI

Jerry Monaco
 

Ken, 

Look into Church history and you will see that institutional attachment to feudal forms and medieval thinking is present and straightforward. In fact even the Office of the Pontifex Maximus of Rome maintains its ancient political rights rooted in ancient history and was partially affirmed by Mussolini. 

Of course, for most of Church History the Church Hierarchs were on the side of the landlords of the world. 

That in itself is not the end of the discussion. Pope John XXIII dragged the Catholic Church kicking and screaming into the 19th century. If he had lived longer he may have dragged it into the 20th. 

But after the death of Pope John a civil war occurred in the Church which left hundreds of thousands of dead, mostly poor people and intellectuals, in Central and South America. Penny Lernoux, before her untimely death in 1989, chronicled this civil war and U.S. involvement in this slaughter of innocents if you are interested in reading about it.

Our current Pope was at best wish-washy during this period. At worse he made those priests, nuns, and lay people who committed themselves to the preferential option to serve the poor, more vulnerable by attacking them in print. 

I believe Pope Francis is doing penance for not speaking out in his time. He has said that he should have been open in his opposition to the Argentine Generals during the Dirty War and Operation Condor. But their is also another political calculation in this stance. The Church Hierarchy’s betrayal of the poor in Central and South America from 1965 to 1992 has led to a great loss of parishioners to evangelical Protestant groups in the subsequent period. 

Jerry Monaco 

On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 2:03 PM Ken Hiebert <knhiebert@...> wrote:
Jerry Monaco said, "The Papacy, the Last Bastion of Anti-Capitalist Feudal Socialism. And yet our current Pontifex Maximus is as much a rationalist as Gaius Julius Caesar when he occupied the office in the bygone Res Publica. That is saying something given the times. “

Whatever attachment the Catholic Church may have to political views from past centuries, I am inclined to think that they arrive at their political stance today based on contemporary political considerations.  Their constituency is in the hundreds of millions and includes many poor people and many in countries dominated by imperialist powers.

       ken h