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Re: If America fails to punish its insurrectionists, it could see a wave of domestic terror | Steve Phillips | The Guardian

Anthony Boynton
 

Conservatively, 70 percent of mass shootings in the USA are the work of extreme right wingers according to the NYT. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/17/briefing/right-wing-mass-shootings.html

Here is another take with basically the same conclusion.


Anthony

On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 4:08 PM hari kumar <hari6.kumar@...> wrote:
Hello Anthony: I certainly agree with part one of your sentence.
However - Is there data about the second part, namely:
"many of which are carried out by ultraright wing terrorists".

Of course I recall instances, or anecdotes: Like the young vicious white man, a racist who was 'acquitted' (sorry forget the name). And the father and son who killed the black runner. etc. 
But - I mean what proportion of the total denominator is from"ultraright wing terrorists" ? 
Thanks for considering.
Hari


Eric Draitser: Putin Comes Out of the Imperialist Closet

Charles Keener
 

Eric remains one of the most balanced, best-informed voices regarding Putin's assault on Ukraine.

Charles

(111) Putin Comes Out of the Imperialist Closet - YouTube


Re: some criticism of code pink

David Walters
 

When the Labor Party actually did move to run candidates, a Labor Slate was put together for a proposed Municipal Utility district in San Francisco during the municipalization campaign for a city takeover of PG&E, Pacific Gas & Electric. We formed a "Labor Task Force for Public Power" and ran Robin David, and IBEW Local 1245 Shop Steward at PG&E's Hunters Point Power Plant. I was centrally involved in this campaign. Green Party city board of supervisor Matt Gonzalez (that is the city council in SF) convinced Medea Benjamin to run *in order to weaken the Labor Slate* and the Labor Party for the same position for the Board of Directors of the proposed MUD. This slimy sabotage of the Labor Party is something I will never forget and I never, ever, cast a vote for the anti-Labor Green Party because of it. Benjamin was somewhat naive allowing herself to be used this way by the Green Party which she was a leader of.

David


While Elites Fret About Inflation and Worker Wages, CEOs Are Robbing Us Blind | Branko Marcetic | Jacobin

Kevin Lindemann and Cathy Campo
 


Re: Re : CFR: Russia's War in Ukraine: How Does it End?

hari kumar
 

So I see that perhaps this same item was first placed on the list by Bradley Mayer.
Whosoever bears credit for putting it to the list - perhaps both Michael & Bradley, thanks! 

Hari Kumar


Re: Re : CFR: Russia's War in Ukraine: How Does it End?

hari kumar
 

Hello Michael Pugliese:

Thank you for a very informative post. 

Coincidentally, I was at a very anguished meeting of peace/anti-armaments meeting in Berlin sponsored by the Rosa Luxembourg Foundation tonight. Many people on the podium and some in the audience were quite exercised by the notion that 'negotiations' were necessary - & very likely. The climate in Germany of course only reflects the major policy-shift towards a more overt militarism. 

To be honest, despite my own skepticism of the 'peace movement' - I was quite impressed with how many on podium & audience, held their ground against a somewhat rabid Green Party government spokesperson (Sara Nanni) who was rather fervently arguing for even more weapons for Ukraine.   

Of course the likely to be held negotiations, will be a 'continuation by other means' of the 'Minsk' negotiations:

"This eventually forced the “Minsk Agreement” in February 2015. This was signed by the Ukraine, the Donestsk and Luhansk leaders, and the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE); and was to be mediated by France and Germany. This mediation (called the Normandy formula or the Steinmaier formula) has been repetitively stalled either by Ukraine or by Russia. Meanwhile, President Poroshenko further escalated anti-Ukranian-Russian tensions. Berlin Left; 27 January 2022. "Imperialist Danse Macabre over the Peoples of Ukraine"; 27 January 2022;  Hari Kumar ; at https://www.theleftberlin.com/imperialist-danse-macabre-over-the-peoples-of-ukraine/

But if these negotiations (let us suppose they do take place for now) are indeed, a continuation of policy by other means (paraphrasing Lenin paraphrasing-quoting Clausewitz) - and they effect the partition of Ukraine - they will be (*can only be*) short term solutions. 
For the USA: The USA will have achieved its proxy goals: Enlarge NATO/'test' Russian economy and stability/'Stiffen' Europe as its on-going stooge and limit centrifugal tendencies away from the USA/
For the Opponent Russian: It will have effected a division of Ukraine and created from its vantage point a bit more of a buffer zone.   

All this short-term prospects to one side.
As the re-division of the world between two giant blocks continues (USA vs China and Russia) - it will set the pace of real world developments over the next era. 
And.... thus far there is no effective working class force that is visible to stop this, i.e. to move it into a war against the war-mongers of capital. I do not think I am missing this. (If I am wrong - yet again - so much more to rejoice!)
Does not mean we should not try... But the critical unity seems lacking at the moment. 

Thanks again for that data. 
Hari Kumar

 


Is This the Labor Upsurge We’ve Been Waiting For? | Barry Eidlin | Jacobin

Kevin Lindemann and Cathy Campo
 


Re: If America fails to punish its insurrectionists, it could see a wave of domestic terror | Steve Phillips | The Guardian

hari kumar
 

Hello Anthony: I certainly agree with part one of your sentence.
However - Is there data about the second part, namely:
"many of which are carried out by ultraright wing terrorists".

Of course I recall instances, or anecdotes: Like the young vicious white man, a racist who was 'acquitted' (sorry forget the name). And the father and son who killed the black runner. etc. 
But - I mean what proportion of the total denominator is from"ultraright wing terrorists" ? 
Thanks for considering.
Hari


Re : CFR: Russia's War in Ukraine: How Does it End?

Michael Pugliese
 

The Putinite sector of the Left, via Bernard at MofA , has been chortling over this , via the excerpt given there , at Moon of Alabama. Lou Proyect , as many here will  recall  was vigilant in monitoring and polemicizing versus it . Now with podcasters like Jimmy Dore's M-L BFF , Jackson Hinkle , with his 113K subscribers, and others who disseminate videos by Eva Bartlett, Patrick Lancaster , supporting Russia, sites like MofA , get signal boosted even more. We might discuss and argue over nuances and positions taken over this imperialist war by Russia, but, when I attend  "anti-war" demos at the Federal Building in Westwood, near UCLA , organized by the CANSWER Coalition, PSL, Code Pink , Struggle la Lucha, of the 75 folx or so , attending , if I asked each one, where their "analysis," comes from , it is from the objectively and subjectively pro-Putin sector of the WWW , not from the sources we use . 

I will not , give them , any boosting myself , by providing a direct url link , for the excerpt Bernard did, only to note , as well that preceding these excerpts he linked to a blog piece by the loon, Larry Johnson , who worked in the national security state for decades. 

"On May 31 the Council of Foreign Relations, with its head Richard Haass, had a public discussion about the state of the war in Ukraine. One of the participants was the former Deputy Commander of the United States European Command Stephen M. Twitty. He knows and makes absolutely clear where the war stands:
TWITTY: I think the war in the Donbas is starting to turn to the Russians’ favor, and when you take a look at—and I’m particularly talking about the eastern part of the Donbas—the Russians have transitioned from trying to pour all their combat power into the Donbas to obliterating every single town. Whether it be Rubizhne, Lyman, they’re working now on Sievierodonetsk and Lysychansk as well, they’re obliterating these particular towns, and that’s how they’re making their headway. They’re not putting a bunch of combat power with infantry forces and tanks in there. They’ve taken all their artillery and they’re treating it like Mariupol and that’s how they’re making their headway. So they’re starting to make some headway in the eastern Donbas and so we have to watch that one closely.

HAASS: ... Why don’t we reverse [our policies]? General Twitty, is there something that the president said? Are things we’re not doing that we should be doing? Is there things that you would recommend at this point?

TWITTY: Well, as I take a look at this, you know, Secretary Austin came out that we’re going to weaken Russia. We have not really defined what weaken means, because if you take a look at the Ukrainians right now, I take a strong belief in Colin Powell’s doctrine—you overwhelm a particular enemy with force. And right now, when you take a look at Ukraine and you take a look at Russia, they’re about one to one. The only difference is Russia has a heck of a lot of combat power than the Ukrainians.

And so there’s no way that the Ukrainians will ever destroy or defeat the Russians, and so we got to really figure out what does weaken mean in the end state here. And I will also tell you, Richard, there’s no way that the Ukrainians will ever have enough combat power to kick the Russians out of Ukraine as well, and so what does that look like in the end game.

There follows some discussion with other participants about potential outcomes the U.S. would like to see, like Ukraine in the state that it was in before 2014.

Twitty then explains why those ideas are all unrealistic and that what is needed instead are immediate negotiations:

TWITTY: Yeah. So I got a couple of things for you, Richard. So I want to go back to what you said. Pre-2014—I want you to think about that one, because I’ve had time to think about it hearing others here, and what I will tell you, Richard, you know, I learned from the National War College there’s something called ends, ways, and means.

So if that’s your end state—pre-2014—then I’m interested to hear the ways and the means because, from a military standpoint, if that’s the way then the means would be the Ukrainians lack, again, the ability to pull that off to pre-2014. They just lack that ability. They don’t have the combat power.

And I also want to remind you we hear a lot about Russian casualties and Russian losses. We hear very little about Ukrainian losses, and keep in mind they’re losing soldiers throughout this war as well. They started at approximately two hundred thousand. Who knows where they are today?

And so it’s hard to recruit and maintain that level of professionalism in that military. So that’s my first point. The end, ways, and means, they lack that, to be able to go back to the pre-2014.

The second point that I would make is, you know, as you look at the DIME—diplomatic, informational, military, and economic—we’re woefully lacking on the diplomatic piece of this. If you notice, there’s no diplomacy going on at all to trying to get to some type of negotiations. And I don’t think that we can lead that, given where Putin thinks about us.

But if you sit back and think about those that could possibly be a part of this negotiation team, you know, you have the—two of them are in—that I’m going to list are in NATO. One is President Orbán out of Hungary. Perhaps he can help out in the negotiation effort. The other one is President Erdoğan of Turkey. Longtime friends of President Putin, although some view that relationship as transactional. I don’t know. Let’s put it to the test and see.

Someone objects and makes a case for 'giving the Ukraine more time' by pushing more weapons to them. Twitty dismantles that argument:

TWITTY: —Charlie, I agree 100 percent. But I will tell you, when you look at time, the Ukrainians have to go into negotiations with the upper hand at a position of strength, and so right now they are at a position of strength. The more this war goes on we never know if that’s going to wane, and then they will lack the ability to go to the bargaining table at a position of strength and may lose more than they intended, and so let’s keep that in mind as well.

There it is. The professional military and intelligence people know exactly what is up. The Ukraine is already in a very bad situation and from here on it can only get worse. They expect that the Ukrainian frontline will break down.  I am sure they are urging, like Twitty does above, for immediate negotiations using whatever third party is available." 



Michael Pugliese


Re: If America fails to punish its insurrectionists, it could see a wave of domestic terror | Steve Phillips | The Guardian

Bradley Mayer
 

Watched yesterday on PBS.  Have to say that, performatively speaking, Liz Cheney is probably the BEST female bipartisan regime politician on the scene today.  Way better than Hillary Clinton (who looks to be sprucing up for a possible 2024 run) and especially Kamala Harris.  The Dems should just push Biden aside and nominate Cheney as a "bipartisan unity" candidate for 2024.  Biden was always a stopgap "filler" politician, to be jammed into the hole for lack of any other viable and pre-approved regime candidate.    

What we should be seeing is the near inevitability of a Far Right ascendency in the USA between now and 2025.  This will be conducted by the Trumpian ringleaders and their Republican Party enablers.  They will have the prospect of a nasty recession to propel them on.

In the interest of an anticommunist Cold War, the capitalist regimes of the old imperialist core have been in a political bloc with the Far Right since the end of WW2, on condition that the Far Right remain second fiddle.  The Far Rights in the US and EU are done playing second fiddle, and now try to get governing power into their own hands.  The Left is ill-prepared for this prospect, as it is almost entirely wedded to a "peaceful road to progress" within a Democratic Party unwilling to face up to the fact that the old bipartisan alliance with a subaltern Far Right in now dead.  Therefore they are incapable of taking action against the ringleaders, to permanently exclude these from the political arena.  Quite the contrary, the Dems still think that running against Trumpian Republicans is their best bet, just as they thought in 2016. 

Prepare for Bismarckian Anti-Socialist Law - style rule in the USA.  Prepare for political war for all the marbles.


Re : Iran: 1988 Mass Executions Evident Crimes Against Humanity: Senior Officials Implicated Should Be Investigated, Fairly Prosecuted

Michael Pugliese
 

[1] Deputy Supreme Leader Hossein Ali Montazeri wrote in his memoir
that the number of executed prisoners in 1988 was either 2,800 or
3,800. Ervand Abrahamian, a distinguished Iranian-American historian,
references in his book Tortured Confessions: Prisons and Public
Recantations in Modern Iran several estimates of the number of
executed prisoners in the 1988 massacre. One eyewitness account in a
memoir (Plain Truths: Memoirs from Women’s Prisons in the Islamic
Republic), which Abrahamian cites, claims “thousands,” while another
eyewitness (Anonymous, “I Was Witness to the Slaughter of Political
Prisoners in Gohar Dasht,” Cheshmandaz, no. 14 [Winter 1995]: p. 68)
“puts it between 5,000 and 6,000—1,000 from the left and the rest from
the Mojahedin.” Another 1996 study Abrahamian cites, which utilizes
“scattered information from the [Iranian] provinces,” estimates the
figure at 12,000 (N. Mohajer, “The Mass Killings in Iran,” Aresh 57
(August 1996): 7); see also Amnesty International report,
“Blood-Soaked Secrets: Why Iran’s 1988 Prison Massacres Are Ongoing
Crimes Against Humanity,” (2018),
https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde13/9421/2018/en/, p. 19.

Via https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/06/08/irans-1988-mass-executions

"Tortured Confessions: Prisons and Public Recantations in Modern Iran
, " by Ervand Abrahamian , can be downloaded , for free , in an e-book
format via LibGen,
http://library.lol/main/0A0A26E954C35C02DC145052C79EFBCE . The
"confessions," of the Tudeh Party cadre , were televised.

"Radical Islam: The Iranian Mojahedin," also by Ervand Abrahamian , on
the MEK/MKO/PMOI , is also downloadable via LibGen ,
http://library.lol/main/D72267F3C99907E95BC8A0DEEE45B921 .

Contextual details, (which do not , of coarse , excuse the slaughter
by the Iranian regime) , as to the timing , as to the onset of the
mass executions, of thousands of MEK members, the bulk of whom I
assume had been rounded up , years earlier , and , never had any sort
of command and control authority in an org. controlled by the Rajavi's
, and the tight circle around them, see,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Mojahedin_Organization_of_Iran#Operations_Shining_sun,_Forty_Stars,_and_Mersad
. Allegation made there that Sarin gas was deployed by the NLA of the
MEK , and the Iraqi forces themselves , in Operation Forty Stars ,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Forty_Stars , conducted
7/18/1988. MEK claims it was their own operation. Prior to the battle
to seize Mehran , Iraq had deployed chemical weapons , according to
Dilip Hiro and Anthony Cordesman. Iran counter-attacked in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mersad , in what was among the
last major military operations in the Iran-Iraq War. Casualties in
these engagements , in a ghastly war , were substantial.

The mass executions , began on 7/19/1988 ,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_executions_of_Iranian_political_prisoners
.

"People's Mujahedin of Iran

The first prisoners to be interviewed or "tried" were the male members
of the People's Mujahedin of Iran, including those who had repented of
their association with the group. The commission prefaced the
proceedings with the false assurance that this was not a trial but a
process for initiating a general amnesty and separating the Muslims
from the non-Muslims.

It first asked their organisational affiliation; if they replied
"Mojahedin", the questioning ended there. If they replied monafeqin
(hypocrites), the commission continued with such questions as:

"Are you willing to denounce former colleagues?"
"Are you willing to denounce them in front of the cameras?"
"Are you willing to help us hunt them down?"
"Will you name secret sympathizers?"
"Will you identify phony repenters?"
"Will you go to the war front and walk through enemy minefields?"

Almost all the prisoners answered "no" to at least one of the
questions. These were then taken to another room and ordered to write
their last will and testament and to discard any personal belongings
such as rings, watches, and spectacles. They were then blindfolded and
taken to the gallows where they were hanged in batches of six. Since
"hanging" did not mean death by breaking of the neck by drop through a
trap door, but stringing up the victim by the neck to suffocate, some
took fifteen minutes to die.

After the first few days, the overworked executioners requested firing
squads. These requests were rejected on the claim that the Shari'a
mandated hanging for apostates and enemies of Allah, though it is
thought that the real reason may have been that hanging was quieter
than gunfire and would thus better preserve the secrecy of the
operations.[28]

At first this secrecy was effective. One survivor thought the purpose
of his interview was to be released in time for the forthcoming peace
celebrations.[29]

Dealing with leftists

After 27 August, the commission turned its attention to the leftist
prisoners, such as members of the Tudeh, Majority Fedayi, Minority
Fedayi, other Fedayi, Kumaleh, Rah-e Kargar, Peykar. These were also
assured they were in no danger and asked:[citation needed]

"Are you a Muslim?"
"Do you believe in Allah?"
"Is the Holy Qur'an the Word of Allah?"
"Do you believe in Heaven and Hell?"
"Do you accept the Holy Muhammad to be the Seal of the Prophets?"
"Will you publicly recant historical materialism?"
"Will you denounce your former beliefs before the cameras?"
"Do you fast during Ramadan?"
"Do you pray and read the Holy Qur'an?"
"Would you rather share a cell with a Muslim or a non-Muslim?"
"Will you sign an affidavit that you believe in Allah, the Prophet,
the Holy Qur'an, and the Resurrection?"
"When you were growing up, did your father pray, fast, and read the
Holy Qur'an?"

Prisoners were told that authorities were asking them these questions
because they planned to separate practicing Muslims from
non-practicing ones. However, the real reason was to determine whether
the prisoners qualified as apostates from Islam, in which case they
would join the moharebs in the gallows.

Some prisoners saved from execution by answering the questions
properly returned to their cells and passed along what the commission
was asking. A leftist prisoner who had once attended a seminary
realised the theological significance of the questions, and sent morse
code messages to other cells, warning of the dangers, by knocking on
the prison walls. The questioners wanted to know if prisoners' fathers
prayed, fasted, and read the Qur'an because the sons of devout men
could be called apostates. If they had not been raised in proper
Muslim homes first and "exposed to true Islam," they could not be
apostates. Another wrong answer was refusing to reply on the grounds
of 'privacy', a response which was often taken as an admission of
apostasy.[30]

All this was a surprise to the prisoners, with one commenting: "In
previous years, they wanted us to confess to spying. In 1988, they
wanted us to convert to Islam."[31] It also meant there was no
correlation between the length of sentence being served and the
likelihood of death. The first leftist to go before the commission
were those with short sentences, some even completed. These had no
warning of what was in store and many died."







Michael Pugliese


CFR: Russia's War in Ukraine: How Does it End?

Bradley Mayer
 

A Must See! Excellent insight on the different tendencies within the camp of the thought leaders of US/NATO imperialism, and where they might go with the Ukraine War.   Of course, these are no mere Chomsky thought leaders, but some are former Executive branch functionaries for the Democrats. The "hawks" are Polyakova and Hadley, the "doves" are Kupchan and Twitty, with Hass insisting upon "consensus" within both the US and Euro NATO camps before committing to a strategic reorientation.

Format is both video and transcript. First half are the presenters, second is Q&A, and note that CFR members will hardly comprise a YouTube sidebar peanut gallery commentariat, but will reflect informed opinions from this section of the US bourgeoisie.

Long and short of it is, they know that Ukraine must cut a deal with Russia sooner than later, when their military situation will have deteriorated further.  This is especially Twitty's point, and he is the military "expert" on this panel.  Continuation of the war at this level is a loser for Ukraine in the longer run.  NATO warmongers have no viable "proxy war" strategy to counter this prospect.  The panel is aware that the likely prospect of a Far Right ascendency in the USA puts the kibosh to the formulation of any coherent strategy, anyway.  The CFR panel was especially concerned with an end that left in place a (not so) "frozen conflict" simmering away, and were particularly concerned about the prospect of a Ukrainian resistance insurgency arising against the Russian occupation. 
  
That last is precisely the prospect that Ukraine Socialist Solidarity is well positioned to support unconditionally.  It is the result of principled vs. opportunistic approaches.  It is the only just position.

So the 100% "antiwar/peace" section of the Left that also refuses to support Ukraine because that is "warmongering", can rejoice at the prospect that Ukraine loses more, the more the war drags on, and will be forced to their "peace" table.  And of course it falsifies the notion that the "cause" of the Russo-Ukraine War is "NATO proxy warmongering", for again, as you will see, they know they have no such strategic path.  Hence also falsifies the scaremongering that "NATO proxy warmongering" tends toward escalations, pushing poor old Putin's back to the wall and raising the danger that "he might have to go nuclear". Besides ignoring that Ukrainians themselves have an interest in not escalating Russia's military effort, no such dynamic is in play: 

https://www.cfr.org/event/russias-war-ukraine-how-does-it-end 


Re: Socialist Internationalism and the Ukraine War

Michael Pugliese
 

Re :  "Has Putin's ideology been embraced down to youth organizations such as scouts and neighborhood associations that spy on their neighbors? ," a question folded into the post by Mark Baugher. Nashi (RussianМолодёжное демократическое aнтифашистское движение «Наши»Molodezhnoye demokraticheskoye antifashistskoye dvizhenye "Nashi" Youth Democratic Anti-Fascist Movement "Ours!") was a political youth movement in Russia,[1] , aligned with the Putin regime, , which reported to ," "Surkov's people" in the Kremlin," https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashi_(youth_movement)#Allegations_of_spying_on_opposition_groups , on opposition groups. 

"And then there is Nashi, the thousands-strong Kremlin youth movement that professes to fight against fascism yet attacks liberal dissidents and puts on mass parades of youths marching in uniform Putin T-shirts and doing calisthenics, in scenes reminiscent of the 1930s. A few years ago, the muckraking newspaper Novaya Gazeta published an investigative report detailing links between skinheads, Moscow police and Nashi’s previous incarnation, a pro-Kremlin youth organization called Walking Together." 

(I will dig deeper to see if there is some successor org. to Nashi. What is more interesting to me , at the moment , is what is below about Borotba. M.P)

Surkov is former  Putin aide Vladislav Surkov , who was   ,"former Deputy PM, the ex-deputy head of the presidential administration," who according to EuromaidanPress and , what appears to be their allied site , Reft and Light, launched under their auspices , monitors "authoritarian left-right alliances and the Ukrainian far right," allegedly bankrolled Borotba . (In case , those embedded hyperlinks, I created do not transmit , just click , http://reftlight.euromaidanpress.com/2016/11/22/borotba-ukrainian-communists-working-surkov/ , which also has information of note on figures in Die Linke.) The ideological orientation(s) of Borotba , have always been a bit obscure to me. Some have asserted , on Leftist Trainspotters, that it has a mish mash of Trotskyists, Stalinists and Maoists , others assert it is totally Stalinized. 

"
Borotba was created in 2011 as a split-off of the Organisation of Marxists (OM). OM was an attempt to unite people from different political traditions of Bolshevism, the “Stalinist” and the “Trotskyist”. The ideology was jokingly called Shapinism, after the name of Viktor Shapinov, the author of the thesis: “There is no Stalinism and Trotskyism anymore, there is only revolutionary Marxism and reformism”. OM’s central idea was to overcome the “historical” contradictions between the Marxist schools and unite them around a common political practice today. Predictably, in a few years the organisation split into those same “Stalinists” and “Trotskyists” whom it wanted to reconcile. On the other hand, today both spare little attention on their ideological roots and, being faithful to Shapinov’s dictum, focus primarily on the current moment. Both Borotba and Left Opposition (now known as Social Movement) trod different paths towards the same aim: creation of a left party which would become a full-fledged subject of parliamentary politics.

The two projects counted on different audiences, though. Left Opposition and its successors appealed to left liberals, on the one hand, and independent union activists, on the other. Borotba chose a wider target audience, the disenchanted Communist party voters. It was actively poaching party activists: former communist MP Vasyl Tereschuk played important role in both OM and Borotba, former leader of Kyiv’s komsomol Yevgeniy Golyshkin was prominent in Borotba’s youth branch. Alexei Albu (who was honoured with the title of “high-profile” in Surkov’s emails) was especially valuable asset: he was not just any CPU activist but a regional council deputy, who helped to create Borotba’s second most influential regional cell.

While in Kyiv Borotba tried to maintain contacts with the “new left”, wasted resources to gain influence over anarchists and left liberals (with little success), in other regions the main bet was on conservative and pro-Russian cadres of CPU and even PSPU, who saw Borotba as the more consistent advocates of their own political views. While in Kyiv homophobia or sexism were frowned upon, elsewhere they were considered a norm. Already in 2012 Borotba activist Yevgenii Vallenberg (who later joined Mozgovoi’s “Prizrak” detachment) together with the red-brown “anti-imperialists” in Donetsk attacked the art gallery Isolation, which was, according to them, an agent of American imperialism. A couple years later, Isolation will be occupied by armed men and converted into the militants’ base, while the artwork will be destroyed." 

"The ideological foundation maintaining a pro-Russian position among the left was the legacy of the USSR and its victory in World War II. Since Russia clams that the government in Kyiv was seized by Nazis and the junta, the opponents of the Maidan described themselves as fighters against fascism and the Kyiv junta. This branding induced sympathy among the authoritarian left—for example, in Ukraine, including the “Borotba” organization. During the most significant events of 2014, they first took a loyalist position and then later a pro-Russian position. In Odessa, on May 2, 2014, several of their activists were killed during street riots. Some people from this group also participated in the fighting in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, and some of them died there.

“Borotba” described their motivation as wishing to fight against fascism. They urged the European left to stand in solidarity with the “Donetsk People’s Republic” and “Luhansk People’s Republic.” After the e-mail of Vladislav Surkov (Putin’s political strategist) was hacked, it was revealed that members of Borotba had received funding and were supervised by Surkov’s people." Via Crimethinc , https://crimethinc.com/2022/02/15/war-and-anarchists-anti-authoritarian-perspectives-in-ukraine . The embedded hyperlinked , at the end of that quote, translated

Michael Pugliese 


Re: First day of House January 6 Committee hearings

Dennis Brasky
 

and here I have been attacking the late Milhous for decades when Johnson should be blamed for opening the door!

Thanks comrade

On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 1:43 PM Michael Pugliese <michael.098762001@...> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 10:25 AM Dennis Brasky <dmozart1756@...> wrote: "Nixon's 18 months of a secret bombing of a neutral nation in 1968 - 69 (Cambodia)

Actually that started in 1965 , under LBJ. 

"Bombs Over Cambodia New information reveals that Cambodia was bombed far more heavily  during the Vietnam War than previously believed — and that the bombing began not under Richard Nixon, but under Lyndon Johnson. Story by Taylor Owen and Ben Kiernan mapping by Taylor Owen ." 

Sites bombed  by the USAF in Cambodia, 1965–1973 < 113,716 sites < 230,516 sorties < 2,756,941 tons of ordnance. 

https://gsp.yale.edu/sites/default/files/walrus_cambodiabombing_oct06.pdf

"Between 1965 and 1969, the U.S. bombed 83 sites in Cambodia. The pace of bombing increased in 1969..." https://sites.tufts.edu/atrocityendings/2015/08/07/cambodia-u-s-bombing-civil-war-khmer-rouge/

Michael Pugliese 


First day of House January 6 Committee hearings

Michael Pugliese
 

On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 10:25 AM Dennis Brasky <dmozart1756@...> wrote: "Nixon's 18 months of a secret bombing of a neutral nation in 1968 - 69 (Cambodia)

Actually that started in 1965 , under LBJ. 

"Bombs Over Cambodia New information reveals that Cambodia was bombed far more heavily  during the Vietnam War than previously believed — and that the bombing began not under Richard Nixon, but under Lyndon Johnson. Story by Taylor Owen and Ben Kiernan mapping by Taylor Owen ." 

Sites bombed  by the USAF in Cambodia, 1965–1973 < 113,716 sites < 230,516 sorties < 2,756,941 tons of ordnance. 

https://gsp.yale.edu/sites/default/files/walrus_cambodiabombing_oct06.pdf

"Between 1965 and 1969, the U.S. bombed 83 sites in Cambodia. The pace of bombing increased in 1969..." https://sites.tufts.edu/atrocityendings/2015/08/07/cambodia-u-s-bombing-civil-war-khmer-rouge/

Michael Pugliese 


Re: First day of House January 6 Committee hearings

Dennis Brasky
 

... and given that the Democrats have never dared to seriously challenge the illegality of Republicans - 

The darling of US liberals, Hubert Humphrey, not only refused to stand up to McCarthy's witch hunt but actually joined with the far right Senator McCarran to co-sponsor a bill in 1950 that among other things, granted the President emergency powers to intern “potential subversives” in concentration camps;
Nixon's 18 months of a secret bombing of a neutral nation in 1968 - 69 (Cambodia);
Reagan/Bush Sr's Iran-Contra doubly impeachable scandal in 1986; and 
W Bush/Cheney's illegal war against Iraq based upon the lies of WMDs, alleged and never proven Iraqi sponsorship of al-Qaeda, and 200,000 dead civilians - 

what makes anyone even remotely serious about expecting a strong Democratic response to Trump's treason - especially after it has taken the not-too-courageous Biden administration including its wimpy Attorney General Garland 15 months to even start a case? Can any observer of US politics honestly doubt that if the protesters on January 6 were leftists or Black Lives Matter activists, at least half would have been shot on the spot and the other half would have been imprisoned where they would still be rotting today???

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jun/10/what-happens-when-you-dont-punish-insurrectionists


On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 12:59 PM John Reimann <1999wildcat@...> wrote:
The first day of public hearings of the House committee on January 6 released some new information, went over some old but still shocking other information, and seems intent to cover up still more information. All in all, its intent in part is to remind the general public of the extreme danger of what really happened and why. But will it accomplish its goals?



First day of House January 6 Committee hearings

John Reimann
 

The first day of public hearings of the House committee on January 6 released some new information, went over some old but still shocking other information, and seems intent to cover up still more information. All in all, its intent in part is to remind the general public of the extreme danger of what really happened and why. But will it accomplish its goals?


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Re: If America fails to punish its insurrectionists, it could see a wave of domestic terror | Steve Phillips | The Guardian

Anthony Boynton
 

It is already experiencing a wave of domestic terror in the form of mass shootings, many of which are carried out by ultraright wing terrorists. 

Anthony


Re: Socialist Internationalism and the Ukraine War

Mark Baugher
 


My question is, if the goal is international solidarity and dictatorship of the workers, how does military support of the existing Western supported government in Ukraine advance this goal? How does creating a sovereign nation state ruled by oligarchs, and “weakening” another, advance any socialist goals?
Why did the fledgling Soviet Union readily agree to spin off parts of the Russian empire into small, capitalist states? I think https://www.historicalmaterialism.org/blog/socialist-internationalism-and-ukraine-war explained that question well in the debate between Lenin and Luxemburg regarding Article 9 of the RSDLP program. And years later, why did Trotsky support a Nazi-armed Ethiopia against a fascist Italy? When I read about that a half-century ago, I assumed it was consistent with the long-established principle of the right of nations to self determination.

But it now seems that this topic is open to debate among the left. It's incumbent on us, particularly the US citizens among us, to oppose the 'forever wars' and Washington's military expansion east through Europe. We've failed at that task since Vietnam. But that does not abrogate the right of the Ukrainian people to be free of colonization from a foreign power.

Mark

On Jun 9, 2022, at 10:28 PM, Mark Baugher <mark@...> wrote:



On Jun 9, 2022, at 5:27 AM, Dayne Goodwin <daynegoodwin@...> wrote:

https://www.historicalmaterialism.org/blog/socialist-internationalism-and-ukraine-war

Socialist Internationalism and the Ukraine War
by Rohini Hensman, Historical Materialism, June 2

Very good. A few quotes:
" ... Paradoxical though it may seem, national independence is therefore a necessary step on the road to socialist internationalism."
It is a useful and important historical summary.


"What this means is that the situation in 2022 is not a throwback to the Cold War as so many commentators have assumed, but more resembles World War II. Perhaps we should recognise it as World War III, a war between ethnic supremacist authoritarianism and democracy, which has engulfed every country in the world, not least the US, the UK and countries of the EU. Ukrainians, who started out fighting for national independence as a democratic republic, have had the misfortune to be thrust to the front lines of a war against genocidal fascism for the second time in living memory. It is true there are Ukrainian fascists, but they are tiny minority compared to the population as a whole waging a people’s war, whereas fascists dominate the Russian side.
I got lost in the parts contrasting "fascism" with "democracy" from an historical materialist perspective: The author wrote "If we identify the core characteristics of fascism as ethnic supremacism, extreme authoritarianism (rejection of democracy), hostility to socialism and communism, social conservatism (hostility to feminism and LGBT+ rights), the cult of the leader and constant propagation of lies, Putin ticks all the boxes." Is it all about ideas?

Many of these ideas originated in the USA and apply to a variety of types of regimes including military dictatorships, Bonapartist, religious, ethnic and other authoritarian structures that don't have the underlying social organization of fascism, which is a mass movement based on particular strata of a society that inhabit a precarious position between prosperity and financial uncertainty. These are small proprietors, professionals, petty bourgeoisie in their millions who mobilize to punch down against workers and oppressed minorities. Is there such a mass movement in Russia today? Has Putin's ideology been embraced down to youth organizations such as scouts and neighborhood associations that spy on their neighbors?

Mark







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