Why don't these groups stop running for President? It's irrelevant and stupid, IMHO. If you are going to actually build an alternative you need to make elections campaigns *serious*. Running for Prez it not at all serious. In fact it's a huge deflection on what has to be done on a local level...which is, as part of the election tactic, to run a very serious campaign as if one is going to actually win. I think in some ways Socialist Resurgence, a group I have no affiliation with whatsoever, gets this, when they ran one of their members for State representative. Makes sense. Socialist Alternative also gets it though i detest their support for Democrats, they do choose seats the can actually win. Work from the bottom up, not the top down.

David Walters