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moderated Re: Ubuntu 18.04

Marty Hartwell, KD8BJ
 

Hi Robin

Another thing I do which I learned way back in the good old days of
Unix admin, was to allow twice as much swap space as the amount of
memory in the system, so with 1GB of memory on my system I allow
2GB of swap space. I know the Ubuntu instruction say same size,
I just don't see why not a little extra.
All of my PC's have over 300 gig of disk drive so allowing for
at least 2 times 20GB for two root partitions isn't a good thing to have.

I also like to have a bootable DVD for each of the two OS versions
I have to allow for a reload if needed.

Back in the day we had two rules:
One - back up your system regularly.
Two - Don't break rue one.
And those were the days of tape real to real system backups. Time
consuming yes, but in the long run a real time sayings if a reload
of the OS was done from scratch.


Marty kd8bj

On 08/20/2018 08:37 AM, G8DQX wrote:
Also having two (or more) partitions for the OS allows one easily to revert if the newer OS has problems, as noted by Marty, KD8BJ. It does require partitioning the HDD, and a large enough HDD, of course.
Good luck,
Robin, G8DQX
On 19/08/18 14:32, John Corby wrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions. I reverted to 16.04 and everything is running well again. I think the best idea I read here is to try new versions on a thumb drive before committing to them!


moderated Re: Ubuntu 18.04

G8DQX <g8dqx@...>
 

Also having two (or more) partitions for the OS allows one easily to revert if the newer OS has problems, as noted by Marty, KD8BJ. It does require partitioning the HDD, and a large enough HDD, of course.

Good luck,

Robin, G8DQX

On 19/08/18 14:32, John Corby wrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions. I reverted to 16.04 and everything is running well again. I think the best idea I read here is to try new versions on a thumb drive before committing to them!


moderated Re: fldigi and rigCAT on Raspberry Pi

Marty Hartwell, KD8BJ
 

Good Morning Raul

I will respond as you and David have been and include these
comments within the text below. Good day to you too David.


On 08/19/2018 12:13 PM, Raul M0ZZM wrote:
On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 11:30 PM, Marty Hartwell wrote:
Ok I am going to jump in briefly. If you are using fldigi then the
rig.xml file is to be put in the hidden folder .fldigi/rigs.
Correct. I have done this and it works well.
On the Raspberry PI you maybe should create a user and put that id
in the dialout group. The pi user will work but it has root control
I believe.
I do have another user available and would be happy to transfer the use of fldigi/flrig to that user. Does this mean that if I add the other user to the dialout group I'll then find the fldigi configuration in the new user profile?
Yes, when that new user has logged in under that environment the build
will be done under that file structure with that users ID and permissions. With this new user ID and following the build instructions
for the PI from the wiki on the web site:

http://www.w1hkj.com/doku/doku.php?id=howto:main

under the "Building from source header, the first one for
"Building on Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, and Pi3"
I have used these instructions for many builds, they are very complete.
They work for all of the Fl-suite of applications.

I believe David as said that starting with Flrig first and getting it
to connect with you rig and functioning fully before moving on to
Fldigi.

I have tried on my Pi2 B+ to use the pi user and found that I had some
issues I was able to get around them, but found it easier to leave the
pi user as the Root id and to create my own id, such as my initials
or my name, to log in the create my build environment.

There are instructions as a wiki on Dave's web site for building on
Debian and Raspberry PI that gives the how to very well. I can't
remember if you said you had those or not.
I am going through one bit at a time. The problem is that I probably need to read from the beginning to the end, which I haven't done so far as I was trying to patch the system on the fly.
Thanks for the comments.
Raul M0ZZM
Like David I believe you need a better more capacity power supply to power your Pi 3 +, I also have bought and use with mine a powered USB
4 port hub to use with mine to relieve the stress on the Pi's power
supply. My supply is a 5v at 2.1 amp, but if I use the four ports on
the Pi for things requiring power I thought it wise to relieve some
of the stress by putting my sound USB card in the powered USB unit
and use the on board USB ports for Keyboard and Mouse.

I hope this gives some more information, and is a help.

I will now leave you in the capable hands of David he has helped me
in the past getting started with my Pi2B+.

Good Day.

Marty kd8bj


moderated Re: #fldigi #tnc-pi2 #pi3 #fldigi #tnc-pi2 #pi3

Andrey
 

On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 03:58 PM, David Ranch wrote:
NO, the TNC-Pi cannot do PSK31
Thanks
It's all what I need to know.
 
--
Andrey
KD2CUP


moderated Re: #fldigi #tnc-pi2 #pi3 #fldigi #tnc-pi2 #pi3

David Ranch, KI6ZHD
 


Hello Andrey,

Ok, understood.  NO, the TNC-Pi cannot do PSK31.  To do PSK31, you only need a an inexpensive USB sound device such as:


DIY:

   - Syba SD-CM-UAUD :: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812186035&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-USB+Converters-_-N82E16812186035&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhOKbpPH53AIVBMpkCh0V5wlmEAQYAiABEgIRX_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

   - To key up the radio, you can use one of the GPIO pins on the Raspberry pi and a simple transistor circuit


If you want something more pre-built, consider:

   Signalink
   RigExpert
   West Mountain RigBlaster Advantage  (I don't recommend the PnP or any other unit that doesn't include it's own sound device)
   Timewave Navigator

   Many others:  https://www.gigaparts.com/products/software-and-pc-interface


All of these are complete units with sound card isolation and other nice features. 

--David
KI6ZHD


moderated Re: #fldigi #tnc-pi2 #pi3 #fldigi #tnc-pi2 #pi3

Andrey
 

Hello David
I mean TNC-Pi 2 it's 1200 baud. I try to do PSK31.

Andrey
KD2CUP


moderated Re: KLog 0.9.4 released -WSJT-x basic integration and bugfixes

Juan Jose Cabrera
 

Gracias Jaime por tu buen trabajo.  73



El dom., 19 ago. 2018 a las 12:22, jaime r (<jaime@...>) escribió:

KLog 0.9.4 is finally[1] here and it brings one interesting new feature and one important bugfix.

Now it is possible to send QSO data directly from WSJTX to KLog and KLog will update it in the QSO entry or log the QSO sent from WSJTX.
It will really save time for those of us using WSJTX!

In addition the translations for Catalan, Croatian, Danish, Spanish and of course English, have been fully updated.

Find below the Changelog.

August 2018 - 0.9.4
- WSJT-X support to receive logged QSO and realtime data.
- Check bool DataBase::updateTo012() / it was always returning true without any action.
- Syncronize RX Freq with the satellite downlink combobox.
- Focus is back to search line edit when right click on the list of found QSOs.
- Update process has been improved.
- Some warnings removed from compilation time.
- Bugfix: Date was not properly calculated and UTC settings was not applied. That may create wrong date QSO when date changes due to UTC (TNX AC1DW).
- Bugfix: When adding a QSO, if the QSL is marked as received, KLog showed a SQL error.
- Bugfix: Table qsl_via needed to be renamed (TNX EA6ZS).
- Bugfix: Some DXCC status were nor properly calculated.
- Updated translations: Catalan (TNX Josep), Croatian (TNX M0NKC), Danish (TNX Joe), Spanish (EA4TV).

You can download KLog from:
http://www.klog.xyz
Please wait some time if the browser returns a file not found error. It may be caused due to the mirrors need to update. The process could take up to 24h!


Thank you to the contributors of this version!
(https://www.klog.xyz/contrib/)

I hope you enjoy KLog!

Please join the mailinglist (https://www.klog.xyz/mailing-lists/) to discuss about KLog and review KLog in eHam (https://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/3118) if you like it! :-)

Thank you!

Jaime, EA4TV http://jaime.robles.es


[1] KLog 0.9.4 took around 7-10 days to be released due to the fact that my laptop was broken. Today my development laptop has a broken screen and it is quite difficult, event to write this email so just imagine doing the final testing and packaging X'DDD

(VERSION EN ESPAÑOL)
KLog 0.9.4 ya está aquí [1] y trae una nueva funcionalidad interesante y el arreglo de un error importante.

Ya es posible enviar datos de QSO directamente desde WSJTX a KLog y KLog actualizará esos datos en la pantalla de  entrada de QSO o bien, enviar los QSO realizados directamente desde WSJTX.
Esta funcionalidad ahorrará tiempo a aquellos que usamos WSJTX.

Además, las traducciones a catalán, croata, danés, español y por supuesto inglés, han sido actualizadas completamente.

El Changelog con los detalles está únicamente en inglés más arriba...

Puedes descargar KLog desde su página web:
http://www.klog.xyz
Si el navegador devuelve un error de fichero no encontrado, espera un tiempo ya que posiblemente sea causado porque los repositorios no se han replicado aun. El proceso puede llevar hasta 24h!

Gracias a las contribuciones para esta versión.
(https://www.klog.xyz/contrib/)

¡Disfruta de KLog!

Unete a la lista de correo (https://www.klog.xyz/mailing-lists/) tpara discutir sobre KLog (inglés) y haz una review  de KLog en eHam (https://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/3118) si te gusta :-)

Gracias!

Jaime, EA4TV http://jaime.robles.es


[1] Liberar KLog 0.9.4 me llevó alrededor de 7-10 días de más porque se me rompió mi portátil. Hoy tengo la pantalla de mi portátil de desarrollo rota y es bastante difícil, incluso escribir este correo así que imagina hacer las últimas pruebas y empaquetar X'DDD



moderated Re: fldigi and rigCAT on Raspberry Pi

David Ranch, KI6ZHD
 


Hello Raul,

I tried both options, i.e. I tried using rigCAT with the file in the wrong place which caused fldigi and flrig to lose configuration,

I don't know how to put it any other way to make you understand... RigCAT support in the Fldigi program and Flrig are COMPETITORS for rig control.  I personally recommend to use Flrig.  If you agree to that approach, STOP trying to use the RigCAT support in Fldigi.


I tired to put the xml file in the right place, which makes fldigi work as intended but flrig not to sync with the radio;

See above.  You cannot have two competitors trying to control the same radio


This is what I have done now. Open fldigi, set it to use flrig, saved, closed. Open flrig, set all the transceiver variables as required, i.e. Rig IC-7100, port as the correct one as instructed by you and Ed, 19.2k baud (which works fine) all the rest as default i.e. RTS/DTR 12V and PPT via CAT - could it be this last bit via CAT that upsets the system? Or can it just be a silly thing such as having to press "save" somewhere?

There is no such thing as "save" in Flrig as it saves everything once you exit the program.  If it's not saving your config, I bet you have a file permissions issue.  Try running the command:

   ls -la $HOME/.flrig

On my system, this is what I see (your results will be different as I've modified my Flrig setup) but the important thing is the ownership details:
--
total 40
drwxrwxr-x    4 dranch dranch  4096 Apr 15 12:56 .
drwx------. 107 dranch dranch 12288 Aug 19 11:09 ..
-rw-r--r--    1 dranch dranch   136 Mar 10  2017 flrig.prefs
drwxrwxr-x    2 dranch dranch  4096 Apr 15 11:27 FT857
drwxrwxr-x    2 dranch dranch  4096 Aug 19 11:07 FT950
-rw-rw-r--    1 dranch dranch    97 Mar 12  2012 FT-950.arv
-rw-rw-r--    1 dranch dranch   218 Mar  7 08:09 FT-950.mat
-rw-r--r--    1 dranch dranch  2850 Mar  5 08:47 FT-950.prefs
-rw-r--r--    1 dranch dranch     0 Oct 10  2013 status_log.txt
--



The whole Pi. I now have replaced the PSU with something else and a better cable, I doubt it can supply 2A, it probably can push 1.4A, I will measure it sometimes over the next few days. However I had no more crashes since, even when I open very challenging web pages (for the Pi and the slow network it can use in the shack) such as pskreporter.info.

1.4A will *not* be enough to run a Raspberry Pi 3B+.  The Raspberry Pi documentation is very clear about this and you should count on getting more crashes.  Please note that crashes on the Raspberry Pi can corrupt the SD card.  At that point, the OS might become broken and not boot/function properly.  You'll then need to start over.


Ultimately, I see that Linux works quite well with these applications. I am now thinking of installing it on the old laptop, it looks less resource-hungry than Windows 10 and this element well "rejuvenate" my old machine.

Absolutely!  Different Linux distros have different resource requirements but depending on the old laptop resources (CPU, RAM, video card, disk), I'm sure you'll find something to your liking.

--David
KI6ZHD


moderated Re: #fldigi #tnc-pi2 #pi3 #fldigi #tnc-pi2 #pi3

David Ranch, KI6ZHD
 


Hello Andrey,

I have Raspberry Pi 3 B+ and got TNC-PI 2

When you say TNC-Pi 2, do you mean the TNC-Pi9k6?   Regardless of which version, this won't work.  Both the TNC-Pi unit as well as the Fldigi program acts as the modem and you can't have two modems.

What are you ultimately trying to do?  Do AX25 packet or do other various data modes (PSK31, RTTY, MFSK, etc)?

--David
KI6ZHD


from Coastal ChipWorks and trying to setup with FT-60R and fldigi but no luck. On first try got problem with connecting tnc-pi with pi pitnc_getparams was printing Trying..... forever, after fresh install raspbian got response so at least hardware ok. Any idea how to get work fldigi with tnc-pi?

73


moderated Re: fldigi and rigCAT on Raspberry Pi

Raul M0ZZM
 

On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 11:30 PM, Marty Hartwell wrote:
Ok I am going to jump in briefly. If you are using fldigi then the
rig.xml file is to be put in the hidden folder .fldigi/rigs.
Correct. I have done this and it works well.

On the Raspberry PI you maybe should create a user and put that id
in the dialout group. The pi user will work but it has root control
I believe.
I do have another user available and would be happy to transfer the use of fldigi/flrig to that user. Does this mean that if I add the other user to the dialout group I'll then find the fldigi configuration in the new user profile?

There are instructions as a wiki on Dave's web site for building on
Debian and Raspberry PI that gives the how to very well. I can't remember if you said you had those or not.
I am going through one bit at a time. The problem is that I probably need to read from the beginning to the end, which I haven't done so far as I was trying to patch the system on the fly.

Thanks for the comments.

Raul M0ZZM


moderated Re: fldigi and rigCAT on Raspberry Pi

Raul M0ZZM
 

On Sat, Aug 18,
This doesn't make any sense.  I have Flrig here controlling an FT950 and there is no mention of XML files in the config.  What it sounds like you're using is RigCat in Fldigi.  This is NOT what you want to do if you which to use Flrig.
I tried both options, i.e. I tried using rigCAT with the file in the wrong place which caused fldigi and flrig to lose configuration, I tired to put the xml file in the right place, which makes fldigi work as intended but flrig not to sync with the radio; I tried also to set fldigi to use flrig and even to get both systems to open together, but had no luck. Even opening flrig first results in the programme not to load the IC-7100 configuration. It basically keeps the setting until I close the application. 

Use the defaults.  Flrig stores them in different places depending on the OS
This is what I have done now. Open fldigi, set it to use flrig, saved, closed. Open flrig, set all the transceiver variables as required, i.e. Rig IC-7100, port as the correct one as instructed by you and Ed, 19.2k baud (which works fine) all the rest as default i.e. RTS/DTR 12V and PPT via CAT - could it be this last bit via CAT that upsets the system? Or can it just be a silly thing such as having to press "save" somewhere?


When you were having this issue, did you ever post anything here on this list?  Could have been a real bug but the group here is very helpful and I bet the issue would have been squashed quickly.
I was not aware that this group exists at the time. If needed I am keen to resurrect the Windows system and try again to see if it fails again. It works very well with this RasPi installation.

Does the whole Rpi crash or just the program?   Which specific Raspberry Pi do you have and more importantly, where did you get it's power supply?  You should have a 5.1v (no, not 5.0v) @ 2.5A (no, nothing LESS) supply.  If you don't, you're probably experiencing brownouts.
The whole Pi. I now have replaced the PSU with something else and a better cable, I doubt it can supply 2A, it probably can push 1.4A, I will measure it sometimes over the next few days. However I had no more crashes since, even when I open very challenging web pages (for the Pi and the slow network it can use in the shack) such as pskreporter.info.

Ultimately, I see that Linux works quite well with these applications. I am now thinking of installing it on the old laptop, it looks less resource-hungry than Windows 10 and this element well "rejuvenate" my old machine.

Raul M0ZZM


moderated #fldigi #tnc-pi2 #pi3 #fldigi #tnc-pi2 #pi3

Andrey
 

Hi

I have Raspberry Pi 3 B+ and got TNC-PI 2 from Coastal ChipWorks and trying to setup with FT-60R and fldigi but no luck. On first try got problem with connecting tnc-pi with pi pitnc_getparams was printing Trying..... forever, after fresh install raspbian got response so at least hardware ok. Any idea how to get work fldigi with tnc-pi?

73

Andrey KD2CUP


moderated Re: Ubuntu 18.04

John VA3KOT
 

Thanks for all the suggestions. I reverted to 16.04 and everything is running well again. I think the best idea I read here is to try new versions on a thumb drive before committing to them!


moderated Fldigi 4.0.18 RX RSID doesnt seem to function, when playing back recorded .wav files. #fldigi #linux #swradiogram

Dave, GØWBX
 

Hi.

Recorded yesterdays 1600 UTC Short-wave Radiogram broadcast from Spaceline Bulgaria, using Audacity and exporting as a .wav file.   (The first time I've tried this.)   From what I see on social media, the broadcast was a success for many others, and would be for me too, save the fact I knew I would not be here to pilot the system, hence the timed recording using Audacity.  (16kSamp/Second Mono.)

Pointing Fldigi at the resulting exported .wav file, it seems happy to decode MFSK32 at least, including the "Zero Euro" image that was sent, but the RSID mode changes don't appear function.   I have not knowingly disabled such features, and the RXID button is "Lit" just fine.  Would that be something to do with the file is a 16kSample/Second file ?   Manually changing modes (MFSK128 and MFSK64) also results with no decodes after the initial "preset before the recording was played" MFSK32 section.   But if I leave it alone, after the MFSK128 and MFSK64 sections, the sign off using MFSK32 does decode.

Trying Fldigi in File I/O mode, and making some test "transmissions" in various modes, and getting it to generate a TX file, again, when those files are read back in, the RSID function doesn’t pick-up the mode changes, or show notification flags either.   It also does not transmit any pre-existing (copy pasted) text I placed in the TX window, for the test.

My OS details, in response to uname -a
Linux G0WBX-Dell-System-XPS-L502X 4.4.0-133-generic #159~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 10 08:17:42 UTC 2018 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
This is Linux Mint 17.2 32 bit.

Are I doing sumfink wrong (again) or ???

No hurry, I've been given domestic tasks to do today!

73

Dave G0WBX.


moderated KLog 0.9.4 released -WSJT-x basic integration and bugfixes

jaime r
 


KLog 0.9.4 is finally[1] here and it brings one interesting new feature and one important bugfix.

Now it is possible to send QSO data directly from WSJTX to KLog and KLog will update it in the QSO entry or log the QSO sent from WSJTX.
It will really save time for those of us using WSJTX!

In addition the translations for Catalan, Croatian, Danish, Spanish and of course English, have been fully updated.

Find below the Changelog.

August 2018 - 0.9.4
- WSJT-X support to receive logged QSO and realtime data.
- Check bool DataBase::updateTo012() / it was always returning true without any action.
- Syncronize RX Freq with the satellite downlink combobox.
- Focus is back to search line edit when right click on the list of found QSOs.
- Update process has been improved.
- Some warnings removed from compilation time.
- Bugfix: Date was not properly calculated and UTC settings was not applied. That may create wrong date QSO when date changes due to UTC (TNX AC1DW).
- Bugfix: When adding a QSO, if the QSL is marked as received, KLog showed a SQL error.
- Bugfix: Table qsl_via needed to be renamed (TNX EA6ZS).
- Bugfix: Some DXCC status were nor properly calculated.
- Updated translations: Catalan (TNX Josep), Croatian (TNX M0NKC), Danish (TNX Joe), Spanish (EA4TV).

You can download KLog from:
http://www.klog.xyz
Please wait some time if the browser returns a file not found error. It may be caused due to the mirrors need to update. The process could take up to 24h!


Thank you to the contributors of this version!
(https://www.klog.xyz/contrib/)

I hope you enjoy KLog!

Please join the mailinglist (https://www.klog.xyz/mailing-lists/) to discuss about KLog and review KLog in eHam (https://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/3118) if you like it! :-)

Thank you!

Jaime, EA4TV http://jaime.robles.es


[1] KLog 0.9.4 took around 7-10 days to be released due to the fact that my laptop was broken. Today my development laptop has a broken screen and it is quite difficult, event to write this email so just imagine doing the final testing and packaging X'DDD

(VERSION EN ESPAÑOL)
KLog 0.9.4 ya está aquí [1] y trae una nueva funcionalidad interesante y el arreglo de un error importante.

Ya es posible enviar datos de QSO directamente desde WSJTX a KLog y KLog actualizará esos datos en la pantalla de  entrada de QSO o bien, enviar los QSO realizados directamente desde WSJTX.
Esta funcionalidad ahorrará tiempo a aquellos que usamos WSJTX.

Además, las traducciones a catalán, croata, danés, español y por supuesto inglés, han sido actualizadas completamente.

El Changelog con los detalles está únicamente en inglés más arriba...

Puedes descargar KLog desde su página web:
http://www.klog.xyz
Si el navegador devuelve un error de fichero no encontrado, espera un tiempo ya que posiblemente sea causado porque los repositorios no se han replicado aun. El proceso puede llevar hasta 24h!

Gracias a las contribuciones para esta versión.
(https://www.klog.xyz/contrib/)

¡Disfruta de KLog!

Unete a la lista de correo (https://www.klog.xyz/mailing-lists/) tpara discutir sobre KLog (inglés) y haz una review  de KLog en eHam (https://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/3118) si te gusta :-)

Gracias!

Jaime, EA4TV http://jaime.robles.es


[1] Liberar KLog 0.9.4 me llevó alrededor de 7-10 días de más porque se me rompió mi portátil. Hoy tengo la pantalla de mi portátil de desarrollo rota y es bastante difícil, incluso escribir este correo así que imagina hacer las últimas pruebas y empaquetar X'DDD



moderated Re: fldigi and rigCAT on Raspberry Pi

Raul M0ZZM
 

On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 10:09 PM, Ed W3NR wrote:
Per the user manual the XML goes in the /fldigi/rigs directory.
Found it, all working now. Thanks!

Raul M0ZZM


moderated Re: Ubuntu 18.04

Dave R kd6il
 

On my Mint 19 I right click the master volume on the Panel. That brings up audio controls. If it wasn't there I'd look for a panel widget. Right click on blank panel to get "add to panel" menu. Mint 19 xfce. Haven't used Ubuntu since Unity.

On Sat, Aug 18, 2018, 17:46 Marty Hartwell <mhartwe@...> wrote:

Hi Brian

No where did I express an opinion that it is anything of the kind.
I am using it and trying to get it to my liking. I use Xubuntu and
like it and like to keep it current. I like having the icon for the
audio adjustment as it was, and am trying to get there, if you can
help you are welcome to chime in anytime. I was just surprised that
the icon wasn't there so I put in launcher for the PAVC and it works
but not as nicely as the other one.

Marty kd8bj


On 08/18/2018 06:05 PM, Brian W4WWW wrote:
> Just because you have problems with ONE system on U18.04LTS, doesn't
> mean everyone else should not use it or that it is a shyte OS.
>
> U18.04.1 works perfectly on my NUC5I3 and ThinkPad Yoga S1.
>
> -Raker /W4WWW
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018, 18:01 Marty Hartwell <mhartwe@...
> <mailto:mhartwe@...>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Ron
>
>     Well how do I look at "System Settings"? I went back to my 16.04
>     bootable and looked at the "Panel 0" for the sound icon. It said
>     it was "Parole Media Player" which brings up only the audio adjustment
>     control. I don't have a sound listing in the whisker menu and I can't
>     see how to just fine the audio control under Parole Media Player.
>     I think I will go back to PAVC for now.
>
>     Marty kd8bj
>
>     On 08/18/2018 05:15 PM, Ron wrote:
>      > Marty,
>      >
>      > Take a look at System Settings, Sound and make sure that Show sound
>      > volume in the menu bar is checked.
>      >
>      > 73, Ron NY3J
>      >
>      > On 08/18/2018 11:52 AM, Marty Hartwell wrote:
>      >> Hi John
>      >>
>      >> I have done the same thing on my old Compaq CQ57. I have not seen to
>      >> many problems yet. One thing I do is keep two partitions for
>     Root each
>      >> about 20 GB each, one for any new LTS versions and the old one so I
>      >> can boot from either one. I have reverted back to an old version
>     more
>      >> than once. I don't use up a lot of space on these personal PC's
>     since
>      >> I have been retired from active need for a newer PC.
>      >>
>      >> One thing I have seen on 18.04 and maybe someone can point me in the
>      >> right direction. On 16.04 in the upper right corner of the panel
>     was a
>      >> sound icon that allowed the quick adjustment of the sound in the
>      >> speakers. One 18.04 it wasn't there. Does anyone know what that
>      >> application was called. I think it is the sound icon for Patrol
>     but I
>      >> could be wrong. I have added the sound control for Pulse Audio
>     PAVC I
>      >> believe it is called and it works but is slower to launch than the
>      >> other one was.
>      >>
>      >> I hope I haven't hijacked a thread but I believe this is in the same
>      >> subject thread.
>      >>
>      >> Marty kd8bj
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> On 08/18/2018 09:42 AM, John Corby wrote:
>      >>> I just upgraded my Ubuntu16.04LTS system to 18.04. BIG MISTAKE!
>     The
>      >>> PC is an older Toshiba laptop. The system now crashes whenever
>     I turn
>      >>> on my external monitor! Initial boot takes several minutes and
>      >>> opening any software is really slow. I am very disappointed and
>     will
>      >>> now spend hours reinstalling 16.04. Just a warning for any
>     other hams
>      >>> contemplating the upgrade.
>      >>>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
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>




moderated Re: Ubuntu 18.04

 

Ok Marty,

Glad you got it working.

73, Ron NY3J

On 08/18/2018 09:18 PM, Marty Hartwell wrote:
Hi Ron

I have found out that on 18.04 they made it better by
replacing the old audio control with PAVC Pulse Audion
Volume Control, but didn't put it in Panel 0. So I guess
I did right by putting it in there myself. I does work
so I will go with it. This by using Google to go
through many pages of descriptions of new and better
things on Bionic Beaver.

Thanks for trying to help.

Marty


On 08/18/2018 06:23 PM, Ron wrote:
Marty,

Can you do a search for System Settings?

Ron

On 08/18/2018 07:01 PM, Marty Hartwell wrote:
Hi Ron

Well how do I look at "System Settings"? I went back to my 16.04 bootable and looked at the "Panel 0" for the sound icon. It said
it was "Parole Media Player" which brings up only the audio adjustment
control. I don't have a sound listing in the whisker menu and I can't
see how to just fine the audio control under Parole Media Player.
I think I will go back to PAVC for now.

Marty kd8bj

On 08/18/2018 05:15 PM, Ron wrote:
Marty,

Take a look at System Settings, Sound and make sure that Show sound volume in the menu bar is checked.

73, Ron NY3J

On 08/18/2018 11:52 AM, Marty Hartwell wrote:
Hi John

I have done the same thing on my old Compaq CQ57. I have not seen to
many problems yet. One thing I do is keep two partitions for Root each
about 20 GB each, one for any new LTS versions and the old one so I
can boot from either one. I have reverted back to an old version more
than once. I don't use up a lot of space on these personal PC's since
I have been retired from active need for a newer PC.

One thing I have seen on 18.04 and maybe someone can point me in the
right direction. On 16.04 in the upper right corner of the panel was a
sound icon that allowed the quick adjustment of the sound in the speakers. One 18.04 it wasn't there. Does anyone know what that application was called. I think it is the sound icon for Patrol but I
could be wrong. I have added the sound control for Pulse Audio PAVC I
believe it is called and it works but is slower to launch than the other one was.

I hope I haven't hijacked a thread but I believe this is in the same
subject thread.

Marty kd8bj


On 08/18/2018 09:42 AM, John Corby wrote:
I just upgraded my Ubuntu16.04LTS system to 18.04. BIG MISTAKE! The PC is an older Toshiba laptop. The system now crashes whenever I turn on my external monitor! Initial boot takes several minutes and opening any software is really slow. I am very disappointed and will now spend hours reinstalling 16.04. Just a warning for any other hams contemplating the upgrade.












moderated Re: Ubuntu 18.04

Marty Hartwell, KD8BJ
 

Hi Ron

I have found out that on 18.04 they made it better by
replacing the old audio control with PAVC Pulse Audion
Volume Control, but didn't put it in Panel 0. So I guess
I did right by putting it in there myself. I does work
so I will go with it. This by using Google to go
through many pages of descriptions of new and better
things on Bionic Beaver.

Thanks for trying to help.

Marty

On 08/18/2018 06:23 PM, Ron wrote:
Marty,
Can you do a search for System Settings?
Ron
On 08/18/2018 07:01 PM, Marty Hartwell wrote:
Hi Ron

Well how do I look at "System Settings"? I went back to my 16.04 bootable and looked at the "Panel 0" for the sound icon. It said
it was "Parole Media Player" which brings up only the audio adjustment
control. I don't have a sound listing in the whisker menu and I can't
see how to just fine the audio control under Parole Media Player.
I think I will go back to PAVC for now.

Marty kd8bj

On 08/18/2018 05:15 PM, Ron wrote:
Marty,

Take a look at System Settings, Sound and make sure that Show sound volume in the menu bar is checked.

73, Ron NY3J

On 08/18/2018 11:52 AM, Marty Hartwell wrote:
Hi John

I have done the same thing on my old Compaq CQ57. I have not seen to
many problems yet. One thing I do is keep two partitions for Root each
about 20 GB each, one for any new LTS versions and the old one so I
can boot from either one. I have reverted back to an old version more
than once. I don't use up a lot of space on these personal PC's since
I have been retired from active need for a newer PC.

One thing I have seen on 18.04 and maybe someone can point me in the
right direction. On 16.04 in the upper right corner of the panel was a
sound icon that allowed the quick adjustment of the sound in the speakers. One 18.04 it wasn't there. Does anyone know what that application was called. I think it is the sound icon for Patrol but I
could be wrong. I have added the sound control for Pulse Audio PAVC I
believe it is called and it works but is slower to launch than the other one was.

I hope I haven't hijacked a thread but I believe this is in the same
subject thread.

Marty kd8bj


On 08/18/2018 09:42 AM, John Corby wrote:
I just upgraded my Ubuntu16.04LTS system to 18.04. BIG MISTAKE! The PC is an older Toshiba laptop. The system now crashes whenever I turn on my external monitor! Initial boot takes several minutes and opening any software is really slow. I am very disappointed and will now spend hours reinstalling 16.04. Just a warning for any other hams contemplating the upgrade.








moderated Re: Ubuntu 18.04

Marty Hartwell, KD8BJ
 

Hi Ron

Do you mean on my Ubuntu or on google?

Marty

On 08/18/2018 06:23 PM, Ron wrote:
Marty,
Can you do a search for System Settings?
Ron
On 08/18/2018 07:01 PM, Marty Hartwell wrote:
Hi Ron

Well how do I look at "System Settings"? I went back to my 16.04 bootable and looked at the "Panel 0" for the sound icon. It said
it was "Parole Media Player" which brings up only the audio adjustment
control. I don't have a sound listing in the whisker menu and I can't
see how to just fine the audio control under Parole Media Player.
I think I will go back to PAVC for now.

Marty kd8bj

On 08/18/2018 05:15 PM, Ron wrote:
Marty,

Take a look at System Settings, Sound and make sure that Show sound volume in the menu bar is checked.

73, Ron NY3J

On 08/18/2018 11:52 AM, Marty Hartwell wrote:
Hi John

I have done the same thing on my old Compaq CQ57. I have not seen to
many problems yet. One thing I do is keep two partitions for Root each
about 20 GB each, one for any new LTS versions and the old one so I
can boot from either one. I have reverted back to an old version more
than once. I don't use up a lot of space on these personal PC's since
I have been retired from active need for a newer PC.

One thing I have seen on 18.04 and maybe someone can point me in the
right direction. On 16.04 in the upper right corner of the panel was a
sound icon that allowed the quick adjustment of the sound in the speakers. One 18.04 it wasn't there. Does anyone know what that application was called. I think it is the sound icon for Patrol but I
could be wrong. I have added the sound control for Pulse Audio PAVC I
believe it is called and it works but is slower to launch than the other one was.

I hope I haven't hijacked a thread but I believe this is in the same
subject thread.

Marty kd8bj


On 08/18/2018 09:42 AM, John Corby wrote:
I just upgraded my Ubuntu16.04LTS system to 18.04. BIG MISTAKE! The PC is an older Toshiba laptop. The system now crashes whenever I turn on my external monitor! Initial boot takes several minutes and opening any software is really slow. I am very disappointed and will now spend hours reinstalling 16.04. Just a warning for any other hams contemplating the upgrade.







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